So is FenFen a user of Hadalen powers? That seems to be the closest to smoke tail magic.

Correct, Hadalen mages are what we refer to as Black-tips. :)

Cronin! Oh yeah!

With their incredible ability to become dirt! Well, and trees, and grass, and.. Basically, they are masters of disguise ;D

Question, are there only female/herm mages? I ask because I don't remember seeing any males.

No, all forms of magic are independent of the user's gender. The black-tips at the temple are all females for other reasons than the magic form.

Oh, ok then. Second question, if you don't mind my asking, does the use of magic require a tail or is it just their particular school/form/style?

Tail mages use their tails to conjure and direct the essence from their connected realm, but in theory you could use any part of your body, so long as it's capable of a certain range of motion.

Forgive me but... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnjky86WQUk

There can be no forgiveness for this transgression. I groaned my way through the whole thing.. :p

I'm going to be the master of disguise~
I'm going to be the master of disguise~
I'm going to be the master of disguise~
I'm going to be the master *slap*

Tan-fastic!

Aww yiss ;D

Vitrin is the strongest, it seems like. Matched only by the Hadalen.

Vitrin is the very essence of existence, whilst Hadalen is that of non-existence. In an equal match-up, the two would cancel each other out, to an extent, but it's likely Hadalen would always come out on top, because how can you unmake that which does not exist? Of course, this is a theory that only works in a battle for all that is existence itself, something that certainly wouldn't be possible to reach within a mere thousand years.

If a current generation Vitrin mage and a Hadalen were to duke it out, and they were both masters, the Vitrin would most likely win by simply unmaking their opponent's existence. Thankfully, I don't think there exists a single Vitrin with that kind of power at the moment. ;)

>At the moment.

Hinting at something there, Feretta?

I can't help but be reminded of Nihilumbra by all this. A very story based game with puzzles. Fun fun fun!

Hadalen and Vertin seem to have a very unique concept beyond simple Yin and Yang, could both somehow be used simultaneously to do things neither could achieve alone.

Well, should the world ever need to be remade, they could always collaborate on the matter, but outside of that, they're essentially polar opposites. I haven't actually theorized on that yet, but I'll actually think about that one for a bit..

Cool, also, the element system you have set up here reminds me a lot of Avatar The Last Airbender for some reason.

The basic elements are the same in pretty much all magic-related stories. There are plenty of similarities between my world and that of Avatar, though, yes. As well as Fairy Tail, Okami, there is inspiration from Chrono Trigger, etc.. Basically, as with pretty much anything that exists, it's a mish-mash of ideas and concepts that have already been done before, because being truly unique is borderline impossible in this day and age. :)

Yeah I hear that, this day and age the trick seems to be more about taking older ideas and making them feel fresh.

I just had an idea for a character, but I don't know how it would fit into your world or even how it would work. It's a being(for the sake of species loyalty I'll say a Fennec fox) that has control(?) of both Hadalen and Vitrin. I imagine that if one personality controlled(?) both, they would drive the poor fox insane, so maybe a split personality would keep some semblance of sanity. If I'm rambling then it's because I'm thinking this through as I type.

I can't even begin to describe how hard that would be to make work :p It wouldn't be a split personality, it'd more likely be a void of personality, a silent demonic presence whose purpose would be impossible for the ordinary inhabitants of the world to wrap their heads around. Vitrin alone has a high insanity rate, after all, can you imagine the mental strength required to maintain yourself when you have the power of existence in your hands?

While it could be a fun concept, it wouldn't really fit into the current age of the world. Perhaps in another incarnation :)

Like I said, I didn't know how it would work, if at all, and I said nothing of the unfortunate beast retaining their sanity. However, it would be an interesting legend in the ToT world, a being in a time long past, before even the realm before this one, who could bend reality to his(her) will. A god among mortals. Able to create universes within universes. Slowly driven mad by the very power that made him(her) who he(she) was. Eventually, the struggle was to much, the insane being destroyed all that there was, including itself. But, as a final act before slipping into the eternal black of nothingness, it made a new realm, modeled after its own... Don't know, but, I think like that, and it's a cool idea, so what are you going to do?

I can't really reveal what my plans are. But let's just say the story Asshole the Draakin is telling on page 37 isn't exactly accurate, so I have a lot of options with how I approach the actual legend. ;) I like the idea, and it's crossed my mind before, but we'll see what comes :)

Don't let my ideas interfere with the story; you know it better than anybody else, and I would hate myself if you changed the story on account of my crazy ravings! And, uh, I take it Asshole is his official name now?

It's his placeholder name, since his name has yet to be mentioned :p And no worries, I appreciate the idea, it's a good one. I may or may not have something similar planned, but can't really reveal anything ;)

a fantastic little guide *u* i adore the concept of vitrin mages

Vitrin is OP, plz nerf! ;D

OMFG I've been pining for this! Thanks for posting it! C:

Sorry it took so long :p

In my world, you have to deal with the 13 Robas (Robotic being created by Dr. Robas himself). Each one has a power of it own:

Fire
Water/Ice
Electric/Lightning
Earth
Nature/Plants
Air
Light
Shadow
Star
Metal
Energy
Poison
Void

I thought it would be something to share with you.

And man Vitrin you scary.

Seems complicated. ;D

I changed void to gravity instead. Just to let you know.

I'm just confuse with void as a power. So I'll just change it to gravity instead.

Sensible. My idea of void is essentially an anti-existence, a realm literally opposite of the prime realm. By connecting to non-existence, your thoughts and ideas can change reality itself due to the friction between the two realms. The friction is what creates the black fog when Hadalen mages cast, which can then be imprinted upon to create what they intend. By comparison, a Solarin mage simply creates fire directly, it's a simple and straight-forward connection. :)

Yes I understand.

So that is why I created the 6 Emblem Orb:

Red:Fire
Blue:Water
Green:Earth
Orange:Air
Yellow:Light
Purple:Night

The 13 Orb were just friction of the six. Made for the 13 robots themselves.

These six orbs were made for all living being. But obtaining one of them is a difficult task, unless you're a descended of the wielder.

But I still think that void is a powerful element in you world. Either way that the way it is. I'm just thinking of ideals along the way.

You a good robot who must obtain the six power of the emblem orbs so he can the defeat 13robas and phantom himself along with some friend who will help him. That my story.

But I drag this out any longer. You must be busy. THese are the last idea

Now I want to be Hadalen.

Black tips are coolest tips. ;D

If you say so, mate. But the whole make junk appear aspect is what I really like.

And the connection to the void part.

Agree!! That's why I made my fursona with a black tip :3 Cause I wanted one to be able to do Kami painting!!
If you know the game Okami, that's were I go this idea, way before finding your comic I was just fascinated by the idea of creating by making a draw in thin air... *w*

Hadalen is really intriguing as a concept! Bringing abstract concepts to life... yeah!

But fire is so... fascinating, raw, powerful...

Fire is also very approachable, ironically. :p

You mean it's easy to learn?

It's a little odd to me that the realm of concept seems to cause things to cease to exist and the realm of void seems to construct things. It reminds me a bit of the Naruto-verse elements except that lightning isn't an element, where "light" was physical healing or enchancement and "dark" was mental conception and illusion and both dealt with creation. Either way, it's cool to know. I hope we see more of the "elemental" guys and some things to make them contenders, so they have more point than as scenery in the Hadalen/Vitrin feud that seems to have prescidence in this.

It's less odd in practice than it is in theory. The idea is that Vitrin actually absorbs all things that connect to it. Because it can and does contain all, there's nothing stopping it from sucking in any target of the connector's will, should the willpower be strong enough, whereas Hadalen has the opposite effect. It rejects all things, including ideas, thoughts, concepts, which creates friction from which that very idea can be made reality.

They're really both concept realms, the title "Realm of Concept" is merely a reference to the fact that Vitrin contains all.

Including many Vitrin apprentices who figured they knew enough to try using their power.

How likely is it to run across a mage with a mix of mage training rather than focused into a single "school" as it were. And apply those lessons into something interesting (Water + Air's Temperature control = Ice Beam)?

Well, first you'd need to have the connection to multiple realms, meaning you'd need to have either two tails, a tail with one tip color and other appendages with other colors or.. I'unno fucking double-ass rainbows all the way across the sky..

THEN you'd have to spend a good few years practicing each discipline, if you're lucky enough to get into a school willing to teach you more than one.

THEN you'd have to find a way to apply the two powers in a way that complement each other.

The odds are probably pretty low, but not impossible.

Red Pandas must be pretty rare, as they all seem to be able to hadalen

They're among the rarer races, yes. Additionally, having the connection doesn't automatically mean being able to use it, it takes years of training to understand how to even unlock the ability.

There's about fifty girls living in the temple, out of a total stable population of maybe ten thousand red pandas in the world, most of them keeping to their own kingdom. And with, say, a hundred million people of various races around the world (averaging about a hundred and fifty thousand members of each race), there's only around a hundred (RECORDED) Hadalen mages in total..

Given that all of the students in the temple are female. do certain kinds of magic have a tendency to appear in specific genders?

Normally, no, it just happfns that most of the female hadalen are at the temple.

Well, I meant to mention this before, but I kept forgetting it, so...
Vitrin. Just how did you come up with that name? Because, y'now... Well... This is all I have to say about it.

It's based off the norwegian word for white, which is Hvit (Veet), thus Veet Reen. :p

Then you've basically made a name that just happens to be a valid Hungarian word

That happens a lot, don't worry.. :p

Hey Fer, now that I know the origin of the name Vitrin
Can you tell how did you came up with the name Hadalen?

I can't really explain where these names come from in the first place, I just pluck things out of the air whot sounds reasonably similar to the topic. Cronin, Koronin, crown of earth. Solarin, solar, obvious. Avin, airy, windy sounding. Aqanin, aqua. Vitrin, hvit (white in Norwegian). Hadalen is just something that sounds akin to hollow, void, emptiness.

As for the name of the magic compared to Vitrin's origin in the lore, just like that was named after Baelin Vitrin, the void was named after Alfred Hadalen.