
After a lot of toil and effort, at last. . . the cover for 'Off The Beaten Path'!
Off The Beaten Path is a novel I've written and illustrated, set in the Red Lantern Universe, featuring an all-new cast, as well as a few guest appearances from Red Lantern characters in later chapters. It takes place approximately two years before the events of Red Lantern, and leads right into the main storyline.
Like my last novel 'Heretic', I've been releasing this free-to-read right here on FA, starting with the first chapter here - http://www.furaffinity.net/view/11578732
However, in July of 2014, likely at Anthrocon, we'll be releasing the first ever PRINTED copies of this book, which will include a full fifteen interior illustrations in addition to the story itself. And it will be bound in this lovely cover :) The wonderful folks at
furplanet will be the ones distributing the books, but I'll be carrying copies at my own table at AC, provided all goes well with the printing! *fingers crossed*
And now, the BIG NEWS. . . .
'Off the Beaten Path', as any who have been reading it thusfar can attest, has turned out to be quite a long story :P Apparently TOO long to fit in one book! So, in an effort to, well, make the printed books a possibility at all, we are splitting the story in two. The first book of the series will be releasing at AC, the second a few months later.
The good news about this is, it gives me more wiggle room to really develop the final chapters, AND more time to do more art ;)
And who knows. . . if all goes well, and you guys seem to like the idea. . . maybe we'll make it a trilogy ;)
. . . now. The OTHER big news. . . .
I've been working on a secret project with the amazing
foxamoore for a few months now, and we're finally ready to release it. Those of you who've been reading might recognize the song he just posted. . . .
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/13614588/
Off The Beaten Path is a novel I've written and illustrated, set in the Red Lantern Universe, featuring an all-new cast, as well as a few guest appearances from Red Lantern characters in later chapters. It takes place approximately two years before the events of Red Lantern, and leads right into the main storyline.
Like my last novel 'Heretic', I've been releasing this free-to-read right here on FA, starting with the first chapter here - http://www.furaffinity.net/view/11578732
However, in July of 2014, likely at Anthrocon, we'll be releasing the first ever PRINTED copies of this book, which will include a full fifteen interior illustrations in addition to the story itself. And it will be bound in this lovely cover :) The wonderful folks at

And now, the BIG NEWS. . . .
'Off the Beaten Path', as any who have been reading it thusfar can attest, has turned out to be quite a long story :P Apparently TOO long to fit in one book! So, in an effort to, well, make the printed books a possibility at all, we are splitting the story in two. The first book of the series will be releasing at AC, the second a few months later.
The good news about this is, it gives me more wiggle room to really develop the final chapters, AND more time to do more art ;)
And who knows. . . if all goes well, and you guys seem to like the idea. . . maybe we'll make it a trilogy ;)
. . . now. The OTHER big news. . . .
I've been working on a secret project with the amazing

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/13614588/
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This whole story is beautiful and the song by Fox Amoore only helps bring you further into the universe. All the characters are positioned well and the gap in the trees shows that they are on quite an adventure.
I can understand now why you haven't been doing as much work for Conviction. If these characters are to play a vital role in the future books then it will be well worth the wait.
Keep up the great work Rukis and I can't wait to get my hands on a copy!
I can understand now why you haven't been doing as much work for Conviction. If these characters are to play a vital role in the future books then it will be well worth the wait.
Keep up the great work Rukis and I can't wait to get my hands on a copy!
Do you mean with or without a credit card? As with a credit card or even a Visa/MasterCard Euro card it's really not any issues to have something shipped here to Europe. And if all else fails and you can always talk to Furplanet directly and see if they'll let you do a manual order via Paypal.
Actually, some folks rest it on the thumb, some on the forefinger, some on the inside some on the out, archery's personal and different to a lot of different folks. I got many different perspectives on it, and none were the same. Since I am not an archer myself, I just balanced out what I could from what folks told me and what I saw on the internet.
Also, I purposefully drew the arrow from the perspective that you can't tell whether or not it's inside or outside the bow, since that seemed to be a point a lot of people fought over. So it can really be either. *shrug*
Also, I purposefully drew the arrow from the perspective that you can't tell whether or not it's inside or outside the bow, since that seemed to be a point a lot of people fought over. So it can really be either. *shrug*
I'm impressed with how your backgrounds have changed over the years I've been following your art. I love the channelling of the calm atmosphere and the blends of colors you managed to bring to this piece.
However, I have some constructive criticism to add. If there's one thing that kills this picture, it's the feline character up front. Not only he (at least I hope it's a he, if not, I apologize, my screen is rather small at the moment) has some anatomy issues, he also seems to be subscribed to the "Hawkeye school of terrible, terrible archery". This is not a pose to hold a bow right, the character would need a strength of a bodybuilder to pull it to full tilt in this pose, not to mention the arrow would have fallen off. Arm/elbow behind the body should be visible, too, because if this is a hunting bow, it would be equal to lifting 40 pound mass on your fingertips and wrist musculature alone. Not only that requires tremendous strength, but is also damned painful, impractical and impacts aiming really bad.
I suggest to look up some videos of proper archery, preferably a lesson which explains how to hold the weapon. You may counter with this being expert knowledge, but I'm a firm believer in trying to do stuff right when possible and doing the research (which you do well, judging from Red Lantern), and this is equally silly to, let's say, holding a gun not by the handle but by the barrel, or handling a sword while holding it by the blade = bad weapon handling that leads to handler's injury. As an archery-unrelated problems, the hips are also rather off-axis and judging by that back leg, he appears to be standing in a very, very deep hole with one foot, for some reason.
Not to mention bow is being shot with one eye closed and elbow facing outwards to hit anything (and avoid hitting your arm), but that's just the nitpicky stuff most people miss and can be omitted, I suppose, as suspension of disbelief. The problems described in previous two paragraphs, however, cannot, especially since the character is the centerpiece of the action on the cover (if I understand it right to be a wrap-around).
I hope neither you, nor your fans will take this as an attack on yourself or your art. I just felt I need to voice what I feel drags down this otherwise very solid piece of art.
However, I have some constructive criticism to add. If there's one thing that kills this picture, it's the feline character up front. Not only he (at least I hope it's a he, if not, I apologize, my screen is rather small at the moment) has some anatomy issues, he also seems to be subscribed to the "Hawkeye school of terrible, terrible archery". This is not a pose to hold a bow right, the character would need a strength of a bodybuilder to pull it to full tilt in this pose, not to mention the arrow would have fallen off. Arm/elbow behind the body should be visible, too, because if this is a hunting bow, it would be equal to lifting 40 pound mass on your fingertips and wrist musculature alone. Not only that requires tremendous strength, but is also damned painful, impractical and impacts aiming really bad.
I suggest to look up some videos of proper archery, preferably a lesson which explains how to hold the weapon. You may counter with this being expert knowledge, but I'm a firm believer in trying to do stuff right when possible and doing the research (which you do well, judging from Red Lantern), and this is equally silly to, let's say, holding a gun not by the handle but by the barrel, or handling a sword while holding it by the blade = bad weapon handling that leads to handler's injury. As an archery-unrelated problems, the hips are also rather off-axis and judging by that back leg, he appears to be standing in a very, very deep hole with one foot, for some reason.
Not to mention bow is being shot with one eye closed and elbow facing outwards to hit anything (and avoid hitting your arm), but that's just the nitpicky stuff most people miss and can be omitted, I suppose, as suspension of disbelief. The problems described in previous two paragraphs, however, cannot, especially since the character is the centerpiece of the action on the cover (if I understand it right to be a wrap-around).
I hope neither you, nor your fans will take this as an attack on yourself or your art. I just felt I need to voice what I feel drags down this otherwise very solid piece of art.
Alright, to address a few things here.
For one, if there's an anatomy critique on her body, I'd honestly like to hear it. Because I worked out her anatomy very carefully. Saying nothing of the stance for firing, because I'll address that next. But her build/proportions and the angle of her body should be dead on for how she's standing. I've studied a lot of anatomy, this pose was reffed by me personally, and if you've honestly got a critique there you can back up with facts or images, I'd love to see it.
As for the critique on the stance. . . I understand full and well this isn't an ideal stance for firing a bow. It was however a far more compelling pose for a cover shot, so I scrapped a little realism there. I'll whole-heartedly attest it's by no means a good way to stand when firing a bow, but to be fair, most of the actual research I did on archery for this book (if you read it, I think you'd be a lot happier with how archery is addressed in the actual novel, the fact that she has a poor stance is even pointed out at one point by the senior archer in her group) disappointed me, in that the standard archery poses are, to be blunt, less than exciting. So it's wrong, yeah. But sometimes you go with what works better for a composition.
As for the perspective on the piece, you were mentioning you thought he was standing in a hole? Well he's a she, for one. . . breasts bound, she's an archer, after all, and the rock she's stepping up onto is a foreground object, and high above the ground. Her leg isn't just disappearing somewhere, I swear :P I tried to make this obvious by highlighting the edges quite a bit. The image is comprised of a foreground, middleground and background, and she is in the foreground. I hope that clears things up a little.
And lastly, her arm/elbow is visible. . . it's just covered in the cloak. Look up around her hood, where there's a cutoff between the edge of the hood and more cloak behind it. It might not be obvious, I'll fully admit, but it's there.
I couldn't find a good reference for the pose I wanted for this piece, likely because as you said, it ISN'T a good pose from which to fire a bow, so I reffed much of it myself with a mirror. I was careful about it, though. . . the arms should be in the right place, the line of the hips and the tilt of the body should be correct enough that the bow is being held at an angle at which the string would have a clear path. . . but I am not an archer. I did the best I could to get the desired effect I was going for.
But to repeat, you're completely correct. This is not a desirable pose to fire accurately, and if you're an expert, you'd be right not to recommend people try it this way. I'm just laying out why I chose to do it this way. It isn't hard to google images of people firing bows. If I'd wanted to steal an accurate pose, it would have been easy. They just weren't working for what I had in mind.
For one, if there's an anatomy critique on her body, I'd honestly like to hear it. Because I worked out her anatomy very carefully. Saying nothing of the stance for firing, because I'll address that next. But her build/proportions and the angle of her body should be dead on for how she's standing. I've studied a lot of anatomy, this pose was reffed by me personally, and if you've honestly got a critique there you can back up with facts or images, I'd love to see it.
As for the critique on the stance. . . I understand full and well this isn't an ideal stance for firing a bow. It was however a far more compelling pose for a cover shot, so I scrapped a little realism there. I'll whole-heartedly attest it's by no means a good way to stand when firing a bow, but to be fair, most of the actual research I did on archery for this book (if you read it, I think you'd be a lot happier with how archery is addressed in the actual novel, the fact that she has a poor stance is even pointed out at one point by the senior archer in her group) disappointed me, in that the standard archery poses are, to be blunt, less than exciting. So it's wrong, yeah. But sometimes you go with what works better for a composition.
As for the perspective on the piece, you were mentioning you thought he was standing in a hole? Well he's a she, for one. . . breasts bound, she's an archer, after all, and the rock she's stepping up onto is a foreground object, and high above the ground. Her leg isn't just disappearing somewhere, I swear :P I tried to make this obvious by highlighting the edges quite a bit. The image is comprised of a foreground, middleground and background, and she is in the foreground. I hope that clears things up a little.
And lastly, her arm/elbow is visible. . . it's just covered in the cloak. Look up around her hood, where there's a cutoff between the edge of the hood and more cloak behind it. It might not be obvious, I'll fully admit, but it's there.
I couldn't find a good reference for the pose I wanted for this piece, likely because as you said, it ISN'T a good pose from which to fire a bow, so I reffed much of it myself with a mirror. I was careful about it, though. . . the arms should be in the right place, the line of the hips and the tilt of the body should be correct enough that the bow is being held at an angle at which the string would have a clear path. . . but I am not an archer. I did the best I could to get the desired effect I was going for.
But to repeat, you're completely correct. This is not a desirable pose to fire accurately, and if you're an expert, you'd be right not to recommend people try it this way. I'm just laying out why I chose to do it this way. It isn't hard to google images of people firing bows. If I'd wanted to steal an accurate pose, it would have been easy. They just weren't working for what I had in mind.
The one thing I wanted to point out/ask about is the bow being on the left side of her leg, rather than the right side of her leg, hidden from the viewer. The viewer being able to see the whole bow certainly makes for better composition; I'm merely having a hard time imagining her getting into that position. It seems she would have needed to either draw the bow, then step onto the rock with her body uncomfortably twisted, or step onto the rock, then lift the bow over her leg, then draw it. I hate critiquing finished pieces of artwork, but I did think this smaller detail was worth mentioning in the off chance you agree with me. :)
Hi! Sorry to butt in like this, but: The bow on the outer side of the leg is correct, actually. You really don't want a bow between your legs, really, and the hand holding the bow is the main one. When fired, teachers sometimes make their studends slack their bow-hand on purpose to prove they have it truly relaxed, in which case, the bow passes outside your leg, to the side of your body (if done wrong, it would end up pinching your privies instead, which is anything but desired). I think what throws you off balance here is the pose itself, because the bow angle doesn't correspond with the body for reasons I mention above and below.
There, done with archery lessons :3
There, done with archery lessons :3
First of all, thanks for taking your time answering this. I'll try my best to be helpful in return. I also got to view it on a much bigger screen so I can properly evaluated (and assess that he is indeed a she, among other things.)
I understand the intent of composition and indeed, a crouched pose works much better for the composition, however, you can still shoot bow stealthilly and still right, this just wouldn't work. For one, I believe drawing the bowstring relaxed, yet ready (pre-aim phase) might be better - it would allow you to keep her eyes open, make the pose more believable and still not lose any of the intended "eyes on the target" mode that you seem to have been aiming for.
As far as the elevation of the terrain is concerned, I do see the rock being above the ground, but when I try to project where her other leg would have to be ending, it seems it still goes under the level of the ground around, especially considering how long her legs below the knee are. Rock is highlighted enough, so no worries there. I thought it's her thigh that's too long, but now I see it's actually the afforementioned hips being off-axis, with the right hipjoint being far lower than it should be, in my humble opinion (the actuall twist of the pelvis while standing mostly upright with both feet planted firm - and you need firm, solid standing for a bow - is not that big in range, as opposed to the full tilt you can get when feet get off the ground (say, round-house kick).
For the elbow... I saw that bend on my smaller screen, and I was really hoping that is not the elbow. But now I see the second picture you linked below, it's the pretty much same case. When shooting a bow, you pull on the bowstring with two or three fingers, depending on its strength (proper way is three though, with most of the weight being pulled by index and middle finger's last knuckle), and you pull the string so your wrist lodges gently but firmly under your eye, edge of the wrist in line with edge of your cheekbone (and I'm fully aware how tough that is to do with anthros due to them usually having slightly longer necks, but the basic pose of the arm should be the same, only aiming differs.) Your elbow is held in line with the wrist and it should never ever go below your shoulder, mostly remaining slightly above it. It has little to do with style, but a lot with the actual practicality of that move.
I'm not sure if you tried your reference pose with an actual bow, but if not, I think that's what was the crucial difference, because a bow pulls on the body just the same as the body pulls on the bow (thus, the equillibrium is achieved only if done right).
To illustrate: Despite lifting 40+ pounds of raw weight, when pulled right, the bow feels weightless against your arm, because it goes full circle. The hand holding the bow is loose in the wrist, the weight of the bow going into the bones of the forearm. Elbow is firm but not taut, and the elbow joint itself has to be facing outward, away from the bow, so that the elbow pit is horizontal - most first-time archers go home with a terribly bruised underside of their arm, because unless they learn to turn their elbow properly, the string hits them. Hard. Shoulder of the arm is set low, with the bone in the upper arm lodging directly into the joint, so when set right, the joint and through it, your back, takes the strength of the bow into itself. And the other arm goes against it directly. Wrist is again loose, forearm is loose, elbow only works as a joint, not a raw force, because you pull a bow by your back muscles, not either of your arms. To aim well, all you need to do is take a breath, aim (with one eye, as opposed to a gun, where both eyes are preferred), and simply losen your fingers, unstead of manually unlocking all of the present muscles.
That's why I suggested videos, not a still image. Stealing the pose from still image is useless, even if you were lazy like that (awesome you ain't, kudos for that). Videos show you how the body works and muscles move on a better level. And istrunctional ones are even better, because they tell you pretty much what I said above :)
I hope I helped out a little. I'm also happy to see you researched the topic for the book itself. Pity I can't go to Anthrocon to snatch a copy and chat you up in person. Well, some future time, some other place, maybe :)
Cheers and keep up the good work.
I understand the intent of composition and indeed, a crouched pose works much better for the composition, however, you can still shoot bow stealthilly and still right, this just wouldn't work. For one, I believe drawing the bowstring relaxed, yet ready (pre-aim phase) might be better - it would allow you to keep her eyes open, make the pose more believable and still not lose any of the intended "eyes on the target" mode that you seem to have been aiming for.
As far as the elevation of the terrain is concerned, I do see the rock being above the ground, but when I try to project where her other leg would have to be ending, it seems it still goes under the level of the ground around, especially considering how long her legs below the knee are. Rock is highlighted enough, so no worries there. I thought it's her thigh that's too long, but now I see it's actually the afforementioned hips being off-axis, with the right hipjoint being far lower than it should be, in my humble opinion (the actuall twist of the pelvis while standing mostly upright with both feet planted firm - and you need firm, solid standing for a bow - is not that big in range, as opposed to the full tilt you can get when feet get off the ground (say, round-house kick).
For the elbow... I saw that bend on my smaller screen, and I was really hoping that is not the elbow. But now I see the second picture you linked below, it's the pretty much same case. When shooting a bow, you pull on the bowstring with two or three fingers, depending on its strength (proper way is three though, with most of the weight being pulled by index and middle finger's last knuckle), and you pull the string so your wrist lodges gently but firmly under your eye, edge of the wrist in line with edge of your cheekbone (and I'm fully aware how tough that is to do with anthros due to them usually having slightly longer necks, but the basic pose of the arm should be the same, only aiming differs.) Your elbow is held in line with the wrist and it should never ever go below your shoulder, mostly remaining slightly above it. It has little to do with style, but a lot with the actual practicality of that move.
I'm not sure if you tried your reference pose with an actual bow, but if not, I think that's what was the crucial difference, because a bow pulls on the body just the same as the body pulls on the bow (thus, the equillibrium is achieved only if done right).
To illustrate: Despite lifting 40+ pounds of raw weight, when pulled right, the bow feels weightless against your arm, because it goes full circle. The hand holding the bow is loose in the wrist, the weight of the bow going into the bones of the forearm. Elbow is firm but not taut, and the elbow joint itself has to be facing outward, away from the bow, so that the elbow pit is horizontal - most first-time archers go home with a terribly bruised underside of their arm, because unless they learn to turn their elbow properly, the string hits them. Hard. Shoulder of the arm is set low, with the bone in the upper arm lodging directly into the joint, so when set right, the joint and through it, your back, takes the strength of the bow into itself. And the other arm goes against it directly. Wrist is again loose, forearm is loose, elbow only works as a joint, not a raw force, because you pull a bow by your back muscles, not either of your arms. To aim well, all you need to do is take a breath, aim (with one eye, as opposed to a gun, where both eyes are preferred), and simply losen your fingers, unstead of manually unlocking all of the present muscles.
That's why I suggested videos, not a still image. Stealing the pose from still image is useless, even if you were lazy like that (awesome you ain't, kudos for that). Videos show you how the body works and muscles move on a better level. And istrunctional ones are even better, because they tell you pretty much what I said above :)
I hope I helped out a little. I'm also happy to see you researched the topic for the book itself. Pity I can't go to Anthrocon to snatch a copy and chat you up in person. Well, some future time, some other place, maybe :)
Cheers and keep up the good work.
No, I don't own a bow. I did the best I could with what was available in my house, namely a stool to hike my leg up on, and a stick from the yard, which was the only thing that had even close to the right curve. For projects in the past I've purchased replica weapons to use for poses (I own several replica swords and a replica flintlock pistol thanks to this) but I couldn't find an affordable replica bow. So I made do with what I had, made do with myself as a model (I am not exactly her bodytype, roughly 30 pounds heavier) and got things down as accurately as I could, considering what I had to work with.
I have to repeat again that the angle, or 'axis', as you're calling it, of the hips should be correct. Hips are something I've studied in particular on females since I was sixteen and legally able to draw from live models, being as they're the center of a lot of dramatic action for female characters. If anything there is wrong, it might be the drapery of the leather she's wearing, which masks the figure a lot. But leather, especially real leather (I own a pair of leather motorcycle pants, which are not made of the thin leather you see on female models, but real, thick leather meant to protect) does not fold the way most clothing does. It creates very large folds, which often do not follow the curve of the body. In the case of this image, I had to use many different refs to really get the shading/highlighting the way I pictured it for the leather on her body, and in the process I likely referenced a lot of different poses, which might be why the drapery looks wrong in areas. But. . . I'm far from perfect. I can't possibly get every minor detail like that correct, and sometimes what's more important (in this case I considered the coloration/shading/volume of the leather to be what was most important) often trumps things like entirely accurate drapery. I'm not gonna say it was a conscious decision, because it wasn't. . . I honestly tried to do it accurately. . . but I can't catch everything, unfortunately. The only way to do an ENTIRELY accurate representation of how clothing falls on a person in a particular pose is to directly reference it, and that often isn't possible. All I can do is try my best.
I think I'm gonna finish this up by saying this, and it by no means demeans what you've stated with your superior knowledge of archery, but it is a fact. . . I write novels set in the 18th century, that follow a cast of characters as varied as privateer captains to titled gentry, to western lawmen and native american archers. I do probably about as much research as I do actual writing, and it takes enormous effort to attempt to portray SO many different things accurately. I've spent two hours studying the difference between flintlock pistols and percussion cap pistols, an entire day studying the layout of the ships of the line that show up in my stories, countless hours studying native american spiritualism and the meanings behind totem spirits, and so on and so on. Because I write historical fiction, I have to study a lot of history. And all of this doesn't even take into account that I then have to illustrate all of this, and do so as accurately as possible. And all of THAT doesn't even take into consideration the study I have to put into the artistic elements of each piece. . . the lighting, the composition, the biological accuracy of the animal species. . . . It's a LOT of work, all in all, and I'm happy to do it. But I hope you can see that. . . with all that, ensuring I get absolutely every detail of specific things that folks like you might be a specialist in. . . is all but impossible. I'd have to be a specialist in absolutely everything that pops up in my stories, and no one is that knowledgable.
In short, I do the best I can. I read up on archery, I looked at more images of women pulling back bows than I can count, I reffed the pose personally, and I combined all of that and put it into the image, as well as I could. There is no possible way I could have passed the mustard with an expert like you unless I owned a bow, and had been taught by an expert how to fire it. I'm content with the result, and if it bothers a few folks who know better, that's fine by me. I geek out over stuff I'm nerdy about, too. I get it. But for the most part, I honestly don't think the issues your expertise found will matter to the public at large. And sometimes you've gotta know where to draw the line, or you'll spend every waking hour fussing over every tiny detail. And then I'd get nothing done :P
I have to repeat again that the angle, or 'axis', as you're calling it, of the hips should be correct. Hips are something I've studied in particular on females since I was sixteen and legally able to draw from live models, being as they're the center of a lot of dramatic action for female characters. If anything there is wrong, it might be the drapery of the leather she's wearing, which masks the figure a lot. But leather, especially real leather (I own a pair of leather motorcycle pants, which are not made of the thin leather you see on female models, but real, thick leather meant to protect) does not fold the way most clothing does. It creates very large folds, which often do not follow the curve of the body. In the case of this image, I had to use many different refs to really get the shading/highlighting the way I pictured it for the leather on her body, and in the process I likely referenced a lot of different poses, which might be why the drapery looks wrong in areas. But. . . I'm far from perfect. I can't possibly get every minor detail like that correct, and sometimes what's more important (in this case I considered the coloration/shading/volume of the leather to be what was most important) often trumps things like entirely accurate drapery. I'm not gonna say it was a conscious decision, because it wasn't. . . I honestly tried to do it accurately. . . but I can't catch everything, unfortunately. The only way to do an ENTIRELY accurate representation of how clothing falls on a person in a particular pose is to directly reference it, and that often isn't possible. All I can do is try my best.
I think I'm gonna finish this up by saying this, and it by no means demeans what you've stated with your superior knowledge of archery, but it is a fact. . . I write novels set in the 18th century, that follow a cast of characters as varied as privateer captains to titled gentry, to western lawmen and native american archers. I do probably about as much research as I do actual writing, and it takes enormous effort to attempt to portray SO many different things accurately. I've spent two hours studying the difference between flintlock pistols and percussion cap pistols, an entire day studying the layout of the ships of the line that show up in my stories, countless hours studying native american spiritualism and the meanings behind totem spirits, and so on and so on. Because I write historical fiction, I have to study a lot of history. And all of this doesn't even take into account that I then have to illustrate all of this, and do so as accurately as possible. And all of THAT doesn't even take into consideration the study I have to put into the artistic elements of each piece. . . the lighting, the composition, the biological accuracy of the animal species. . . . It's a LOT of work, all in all, and I'm happy to do it. But I hope you can see that. . . with all that, ensuring I get absolutely every detail of specific things that folks like you might be a specialist in. . . is all but impossible. I'd have to be a specialist in absolutely everything that pops up in my stories, and no one is that knowledgable.
In short, I do the best I can. I read up on archery, I looked at more images of women pulling back bows than I can count, I reffed the pose personally, and I combined all of that and put it into the image, as well as I could. There is no possible way I could have passed the mustard with an expert like you unless I owned a bow, and had been taught by an expert how to fire it. I'm content with the result, and if it bothers a few folks who know better, that's fine by me. I geek out over stuff I'm nerdy about, too. I get it. But for the most part, I honestly don't think the issues your expertise found will matter to the public at large. And sometimes you've gotta know where to draw the line, or you'll spend every waking hour fussing over every tiny detail. And then I'd get nothing done :P
Hey, all I can do is to provide the little knowledge I have for possible future reference, I'm not forcing you to take it or to live by it, so no need to defend against me. I just wanted to help, that's all. And considering I'm not an archery geek nor expert, I spoke from the point of view of a fellow artist rather than an expert of said field who pesters people over every little niggle till they get their beloved field of work right.
Take it at a face value or leave it lie. Your choice, your freedom, your right to decide :)
Take it at a face value or leave it lie. Your choice, your freedom, your right to decide :)
That sort of specific critique is, unfortunately, only useful in the very beginning of a piece when I'm still doing the concept sketches for the figures. After 80 hours of work, there isn't much I can do except go back in and re-do the piece from scratch. And like I said. . . I feel like in this case, it's a minor issue that doesn't warrant scrapping an entire cover.
I'll keep in mind that you know a lot about the subject in the future, though, archery geek or not, it's clearly something you know enough about to write and critique about extensively, so don't put down your knowledge as being a casual observer. You're the only person who's brought the aforementioned issues up to me, so you at least know more than anyone else who bothered to comment on this image. I consider that knowledgable. Having people in my association I can go to in the future when I have a specialty-related question like this is very useful for me, especially if I ever have to draw, say, a dynamic archery pose again. I'd gladly have you redline something in the future, since your understanding of the subject goes so far beyond my own.
Since you seem interested in critique, if you've ever got a piece of your own you'd be interested in receiving critique on, feel free to hit me up. It's my personal policy not to offer critique unless asked for it, but my own specialties lie in musculature and anatomy, and I noticed they are sometimes areas you struggle with. . . specifically in the joints/hands. If you're interested in a dialogue like that, let me know. I have a whole network of other artists whom I shoot my concept sketches and WIPs past, and who do so in kind. It's a much more useful way to get the critique we need, at a time when it's of use to us. And it avoids bogging up a comments section like this :P
I'll keep in mind that you know a lot about the subject in the future, though, archery geek or not, it's clearly something you know enough about to write and critique about extensively, so don't put down your knowledge as being a casual observer. You're the only person who's brought the aforementioned issues up to me, so you at least know more than anyone else who bothered to comment on this image. I consider that knowledgable. Having people in my association I can go to in the future when I have a specialty-related question like this is very useful for me, especially if I ever have to draw, say, a dynamic archery pose again. I'd gladly have you redline something in the future, since your understanding of the subject goes so far beyond my own.
Since you seem interested in critique, if you've ever got a piece of your own you'd be interested in receiving critique on, feel free to hit me up. It's my personal policy not to offer critique unless asked for it, but my own specialties lie in musculature and anatomy, and I noticed they are sometimes areas you struggle with. . . specifically in the joints/hands. If you're interested in a dialogue like that, let me know. I have a whole network of other artists whom I shoot my concept sketches and WIPs past, and who do so in kind. It's a much more useful way to get the critique we need, at a time when it's of use to us. And it avoids bogging up a comments section like this :P
I apologize, I wasn't there to stop you mid-sketch when this piece was being created, and thought it might be better late than never. I'd respectfully disagree on having to redo the cover from scratch, tools like Photoshop are mighty when it comes to fixing things, but as I said before, all I can do is toss my mental penny in your general direction, whether you pick it up or not is completely up to you :)
Feel free to shoot any questions my way in the future. I'll keep your offer in mind, too, and note you when I find something my usual helpful redliners are short in. Especially when it comes to females, anatomy isn't admittedly my strongest suit, so I take any help I can get in that department.
Feel free to shoot any questions my way in the future. I'll keep your offer in mind, too, and note you when I find something my usual helpful redliners are short in. Especially when it comes to females, anatomy isn't admittedly my strongest suit, so I take any help I can get in that department.
In order to make the changes you suggested, I would have to change the entire stance of her legs, which can't be 'manipulated', it would have to be fully re-drawn. That's her entire lower half, and in addition, I'd have to re-do one of her arms. That is around ten to twelve hours of work for me, give or take, and would require making changes on four different layers. Anything that tacks an entire work day onto a piece has to be a horrendous problem for me to justify it. You're welcome to your own, clearly very strong feelings on the subject, but I just don't see making a change that would take SO much time and would, at least to my eyes, ruin some of the dynamic flow of the piece, just to fix something that most people won't even recognize as an issue.
That being said, I've never said you're wrong. . . I just don't think this is all a big deal. I think it's a minor issue that would require a major change, and especially when I'm on deadline, the work entailed would not be equaled by the gain made to the piece as a whole. But that's just my feeling on the matter.
That being said, I've never said you're wrong. . . I just don't think this is all a big deal. I think it's a minor issue that would require a major change, and especially when I'm on deadline, the work entailed would not be equaled by the gain made to the piece as a whole. But that's just my feeling on the matter.
I can see both points here.
Fact does not necessarily make a good image I mean come on, hotr fuzz, diving with hand guns, it looks epic, it doesn't work but art/films don't need to be
You must excuse us pedantic people, much like Changer the moment I noticed the pose it's all I could see, the picture is frankly amazing, but for the minority, like vast minority it's almost painful to see the hollywood styles, like the god damn keysword, I mean that thing is just horrid (though Rukis, you can hold a sword by the blade, in fact it's useful to in some situations, and does not cut you, both half swording and turning it round to use the pommel and guard as a blunt weapon and hook trip ect ect)
I;d say you can tell the side the arrow is on using the shaft, looks to me to be on bows outside, and may just be me but I see a tilt in the bow that would make the arrow more likely to fall off the thumb
Despite my ultra anal pedanticness (and believe me it's like super high, ask anyone I know and I get super bitchy about it, swords and armour mostly, kingdom of gladiators just rage central) I love the picture, the felines face is just amazing, the details, I mean it's just epic
Fact does not necessarily make a good image I mean come on, hotr fuzz, diving with hand guns, it looks epic, it doesn't work but art/films don't need to be
You must excuse us pedantic people, much like Changer the moment I noticed the pose it's all I could see, the picture is frankly amazing, but for the minority, like vast minority it's almost painful to see the hollywood styles, like the god damn keysword, I mean that thing is just horrid (though Rukis, you can hold a sword by the blade, in fact it's useful to in some situations, and does not cut you, both half swording and turning it round to use the pommel and guard as a blunt weapon and hook trip ect ect)
I;d say you can tell the side the arrow is on using the shaft, looks to me to be on bows outside, and may just be me but I see a tilt in the bow that would make the arrow more likely to fall off the thumb
Despite my ultra anal pedanticness (and believe me it's like super high, ask anyone I know and I get super bitchy about it, swords and armour mostly, kingdom of gladiators just rage central) I love the picture, the felines face is just amazing, the details, I mean it's just epic
This one might suit you better - http://www.furaffinity.net/view/13382478/
not much actually, her elbow should be higher and the way she grips the string would screw her aim once released, but I've seen african and polynesian aboriginals shooting in a similar way - how they manage to hit anything is probably beyond most european archers, but since they didn't die out yet it seems to work for them, I'm not an expert too but I know there are dozens of different ways how to shoot from a bow in various cultures (which often lead to misunderstandings and creation of myths and urban legends like the breast-cutting Amazonas), so I guess this might work for Anukshen/Katoshen hunters as well... anyway I wouldn't say her stance in this picture is her actual shooting stance, it's more like she's in mid-motion raising the bow and lining her aim, but not yet ready to shoot, at least that's how it appears to me... yeah, sorry for re-opening this topic ;-P
That shot was directly reffed, so if there are issues, they were issues with the original photo, which was from a site specifically talking about archery.
So yeah. Apparently there really isn't one right way to illustrate this that will agree with everyone. And honestly, it's driving me a little crazy at this point.
So yeah. Apparently there really isn't one right way to illustrate this that will agree with everyone. And honestly, it's driving me a little crazy at this point.
I'm having trouble finding the site that had the link, but this is the image I had saved on my harddrive - http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/woma.....w-14587344.jpg
*shrug* Like I said, I reffed. If it was a bad ref, well. . . I did the best I could. It looked accurate, and the internet said it was accurate. Not that you can entirely trust the internet. . . .
But seriously, guys. I have literally gotten five different perspectives on what SIDE of the bow the arrow should be on. Isn't it possible y'all just have your own individual knowledge about how archery is meant to be done. . . but other people might disagree? Give me some credit, here. I didn't draw her shooting the damn bow backwards. I researched every archery pose in this book as well as I could, without knowing someone who had a bow and could use it in front of me.
Cut me a break. That's really all I can say at this point.
*shrug* Like I said, I reffed. If it was a bad ref, well. . . I did the best I could. It looked accurate, and the internet said it was accurate. Not that you can entirely trust the internet. . . .
But seriously, guys. I have literally gotten five different perspectives on what SIDE of the bow the arrow should be on. Isn't it possible y'all just have your own individual knowledge about how archery is meant to be done. . . but other people might disagree? Give me some credit, here. I didn't draw her shooting the damn bow backwards. I researched every archery pose in this book as well as I could, without knowing someone who had a bow and could use it in front of me.
Cut me a break. That's really all I can say at this point.
yeah, that really doesn't look like a good stance, apparently there are archers and "archers" on the internetz, but she doesn't seem to have the string pulled back all the way so maybe her final actual shooting stance would be better (unless this actually IS her shooting stance, which would make the arrow drop to the ground after 5 meters), as for the arrow - both ways are possible, though left side (if you hold the bow in your left hand) is preffered - the arrow rests firmly on your hand (or on the arrow rest in modern bows as is the case on the photo here) and doesn't fall of even if you tilt the bow, the other side is possible as well but you have to hold the bow perfectly vertical or stretch your thumb out a bit and rest the arrow on it - less convenient and aim might be worse unless you're used to it, but it might be necessary for very quick shooting and reloading, like if you're surrounded by a bunch of orcs...
And don't take my comments as criticism, I like your pictures as they are and as I said, the amerindian way of shooting may be waaay different from what european longbow-freaks consider "proper" archery, so they might be "culturaly" more accurate than we'd think
And don't take my comments as criticism, I like your pictures as they are and as I said, the amerindian way of shooting may be waaay different from what european longbow-freaks consider "proper" archery, so they might be "culturaly" more accurate than we'd think
This is soooo badass and gorgeous work!! I love the characters and the song is perfect. Not exactly how I picture Ransom's voice (Its probably not meant to be) but it fits the story perfectly :)
Really excited to order the book and I look forward to all the things you bring us next!
Really excited to order the book and I look forward to all the things you bring us next!
Still fucking amazing!
Of course, it does raise a couple of questions... where would the book END, exactly? The most resolute cut-off point I can see is halfway through chapter 23, with her feverish hallucination (plus, the suspense of whether she survives). But we're not going to cut off halfway through a chapter, are we?
Of course, it does raise a couple of questions... where would the book END, exactly? The most resolute cut-off point I can see is halfway through chapter 23, with her feverish hallucination (plus, the suspense of whether she survives). But we're not going to cut off halfway through a chapter, are we?
Loving this =) Character details, background, light, all of it =)
I've never realized how small Puck actually is. I've seen the artwork you've done but this really puts him in perspective.
As for Shivas pose, I see it as more of a "ready" pose than "hitting the bullseye from eighty feet".
If you need archery refs I might be able to help. I'm still learning, but I own a bow. If you are interested.
Will this be print only or is there any chance that we might see this as an e-book in the future?
And lastly, nice work on the lyrics. Turned out great =)
I've never realized how small Puck actually is. I've seen the artwork you've done but this really puts him in perspective.
As for Shivas pose, I see it as more of a "ready" pose than "hitting the bullseye from eighty feet".
If you need archery refs I might be able to help. I'm still learning, but I own a bow. If you are interested.
Will this be print only or is there any chance that we might see this as an e-book in the future?
And lastly, nice work on the lyrics. Turned out great =)
I want the printed copies. I love my real books. Hope to pick up my copies at Furpocalypse since there is not AC for me this year.
IF you do go for two or three volumes, you could try the same cover running along the spines of the book on the shelf. We did that for the collected Roger Zelazny collection from NESFA Press, and it worked out really well. http://www.nesfa.org/press/Books/Ze.....y-Project.html
IF you do go for two or three volumes, you could try the same cover running along the spines of the book on the shelf. We did that for the collected Roger Zelazny collection from NESFA Press, and it worked out really well. http://www.nesfa.org/press/Books/Ze.....y-Project.html
i don't know why i waited this long (life in the way?) but im finally getting around to reading these! i've been reading them here on fa so far cus i don't have the paitents to wait for my physical copy to get here x3 i'm enjoying it so much, though, (as if that's a bad thing) that i'm worried i'll hit the breaking off point before the book gets here! so what chapters does the story split on between books?
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