FUUUUUUUUCK.

Time to find a new favourite artist. ;;

The inevitability of this doesn't lessen the sadness. Fuck.

oh man. lol'd.

*slits throat*
GO ELSEWHERE RHAEN! Cause you loling means that you were probably one of the people that did it!
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Is very paranoid.

Naw. I just think this is all silly.

lol

*slits throat*
GO ELSEWHERE RYUDRAGNIER! Caus you slitting throats means that you were probably one of the people that did it and are trying to make it look like you're innocent!
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Is very paranoid.

Dude, seriously, calm down.

1) Invisible and intangible weapons do not intimidate. They cause more lol'ing.

2) Your making a big assumption. And we all know what happens when someone assumes, right?

They make an ass of you and me.

If you want to show a good example of being a kind and open fandom.. one that seems good for artists like tend to stick with, perhaps you should start off by being kind and open to other people's opinions and decisions first?

~N~

I like you.

Sorry, very random and very late.

Lol, not a problem. I do most of my stuff when half asleep as well >.O

~N~

goddamnit

although, to be fair, after the comic was distributed you should have seen this coming and prepared for this.

yes of course when you post something and you try to sale it, you will have to be very concoius of that the prople will post it in websites and forums, so you do not have to be angry...the poeple did that because they want to see our artwork..by the way I inwuire because you are acting like the guys og Metalica, Crhistina Aguilera, and Maddone...if the people download free their mucis it does not mean thay they will stop writting..you took this ttoo bad and you wre not prepared....

O.o wow...they even left the do not distribute on there....u know how many people noticed that? was it just me? I'm sorry to hear about this Furryrevolution T_T...i am a big fan of your artwork and I am sad to know i will never see your art again T_T

that sucks, and... well, really, why you got suprised anyway?
anything that can be digitalized by any means and uploaded... can be in internet, the part that I do really hate is that people are like that (at least wait a year or something?) that happenned to every artist (you name it) get's the artist's hard work ripped (at least they boungt it to have it, right?) and tossed into the internet for the people that whines for it... that's sad, actually...

http://www.furaffinity.net/full/2659091/
El ya regresará.

tampoco me sorprenderia...

To the people that did it, I WILL find you. I carry a grudge for a LONG time.

Never become between an internet tough guy and his porn.

EVER.

Damn straight! And I may not be a strong guy in rl, but I DO have access to a military storehouse with grenades and rocket launchers. I ain't afraid to go crazy on them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y_Wu36wIEM

Yeah, that sums it up.

Holy cow! Your e-penis must be HUGE!

...I'm in a pissed off mood right now. Don't test my patience.

Uh oh, you gunna threaten me with violence to prove your point or get what you want again?

Don't fucking test me over the internet. God forbid I find your address on Google Earth and throw a grenade into your bathroom when you're taking a shower.

HAHAHAHA
IT'S FUCKING FURRY PORN.
GET OVER IT.

And this just got reported to the proper authorities for terroristic remarks, complete with HTTPTrack documentation.

Enjoy your Federal Authority Visit.

you mean the guys that are always outside with the van? Yeah, they're ALWAYS there. If you want, I can say hi to them for you.

fag :B

You're so silly. I bet you think you're a dragon too, huh?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y_Wu36wIEM

I DID LOLED SO HARD!!

I pirate every single day, whatcha gonna do about it?

That totally sucks! Makes me glad I ordered my comic when I did! It's sad to see you go over this, but if you feel you have to, then....


Best of luck.

You're not the first artist to make this decision, and you won't be the last.

And I understand the decision.

But it's still unfortunate that the good people who enjoy your work have to suffer for the actions of a few not-good ones.

Also, they didn't even post the entire thing. It's missing about 2/3rds the content.

D'aww. Is this why you wiped your gallery? So much good stuff on it...

*hugs*

im sure you most of it saved, if not posted somewhere else.

ok

Every customer who paid for your image pack and comic (like me) will understand that youre angry that your art will get distributed illegaly on some sites. But come on, this is the internet! No matter how much you bitch about, you wont stop people from pirating things. Most of them are idiots who wouldnt have bought your pictures now matter what anyway!

But that you really start crying with all that "Oh I'm gonna stop drawing now!" is really shameful. There are a lot of real fans of your art out there and a good part is willing to pay for your comics and image packs. If you want to betray everyone that really likes your artwork, then youre just selfish and not better than those who distribute your art for free.

Stop being such a dramaqueen about it and grow up for christ sakes.

I have to agree. I find Furryrevolution to be one of the best artists out there, and I currently could not afford to buy the comic and image pack, and to find that he won't be selling them anymore is a bummer and annoying at the same time. Bummer because now I'll likely never get to see this, and annoying because I don't think i've ever seen anyone be so dramatic and negative and have such a reaction towards this kind of situation.

I love you...

Gotta second this.

There are other artists out there that work extremely hard and put out not just CD's but printed comics and such. Most if not ALL of thees comics and art are available on the internet and you don't even have to look that hard! You can find scanned images of Circles, ASB, etc so on and so forth and if you release stuff you're going to find that people are going to do it to your art as well!

But here's the thing ... at least you as a artist have talent and have the ability to draw what you want when you want to. I don't have that luxury. My art isn't the best in the world and even if I did stuff like this.. and charged for it .. and found that it was posted to the internet... I would be angry yes.. would I stop drawing and quit FA?

NO!

Because you know what? Stuff like this gives you something called EXPOSURE! Some people see this they go.. hey! who did this? I might want to comission them or buy more of their stuff! Hell there have been comics that I have downloaded just to see what they were about and if I liked them you know what I did?

I went and BOUGHT them!

My two cents right there. You want to be angry? Go ahead. But if you want to cut off all the fans you've made on here by leaving because someone scanned your shit.. then go for it. But don't think that for a second that I am going to watch you again if you come back.. because you're either here or your gone.. not gone for a month and then.. ok.. i'm back so I can make more money off you people..

Because that's what it comes down to .. isn't it.

Johnny

p.s. second dream & nightmare.. act like a man and like you have a pair

honestly, i second.. third. whatever number i am.. yes, its disrespectful, but its also means people like the art enough to bother sharing with others.. and honestly, half the people here probably downloaded the pics on the link cause he brought it to our attention. I'd never stop drawing because of stuff like that.. i draw and share because i enjoy it, not for the money, money is nice though..

Its just sad to see butthurt artists getting upset cause of what happens to a lot of artists... heck, thats how i found the furry fandom (partially)

if it happens, its a shame,but the art will be missed

Agreed.

As an artist Furryevolution, you cannot expect exclusivity to your work now more than Dreamworks can to their movies and hope no one pirates and downloads them. You infact are in breach of their own copyright by producing pornographic work of THEIR characters. Think about that for a moment before ranting about people stealing YOUR work.

It is a real shame that you will doing YOURSELF such a dis-justice as clearly, you have a lot of fans of your artwork and people that are willing to pay for them. Yet your response is to punish everyone for the sake of a few. Whilst its obviously your decision to make, and I can totally accept and appreciate your annoyance, you are simply doing yourself out of more sales and, seemingly, gaining yourself now a bad reputation of character based on peoples reactions to your reaction.

I would very much like to hope that you can be the better person and not react in the way that clearly, the person(s) that have pirated your work have hoped to achieve. By raising to it in this manner, you will only make them smile and laugh more. Using my earlier example of Dreamworks again, imagine where we would be if they reacted in the same way and simply decided never to distribute their movies again.. part of 'mass' producing is accepting that a certain precentage of it is going to be ripped off, and there is NOTHING you, or anyone else, even huge companies such as them, can do about it.

Therefore, I would simply urge you to re-consider your decision. I know I for one personally really enjoy your artwork, and it will be a shame to see it slip off of the radar.

Best of luck to you whatever you decide.

Plus, think about if you went to the movie theaters to see their movies and bought the DVDs and then they decide to stop showing them because of piracy - thats kinda how I feel right now, ripped off.

I mean I paid 24 euros for the comic and image pack, seperately. Money that I wont getting back. Now basically, I wouldnt see that as a problem, since nobody forced me to buy his stuff and I liked it so far. But still, 24 euros is a LOT for a complete digital distribution. I mean no printed pages, no coloring, no nothing. And yet he is whining why some people seem to prefer downloading it illegally. He really should have seen this coming.

I am by no accounts a great artist, but some people do tell me that I should take commissions. However, I choose not to simply because I cannot live up to the demands of what people want in their images, and the drama that it carries. I would sooner just produce my stuff for free - do the odd commission here and there for a bit of pocket money, but keep it mostly as a hobby.

Furryevolution could easily make a lot of money by selling at conventions, taking more commissions etc.. so it does seem a bit silly to shot himself in the foot and cut off ALL his sources of income simply because of one or two people.

I by all accounts appreciate his annoyance, but do not in any way condone this sort of behavior by the artist. It is both childish and immature, and if it is anything to judge a person by, he is going to have a lot of shocks as he rolls on through life. There are many people out there just waiting to break rules/laws and want something/everything for free... personally, to me its no different to me going to work, busting my ass off and paying my taxes, only for slack joe yockel who has no 'real' intention of ever getting a job living on benefits (my taxes) and quite frankly, having an easier life. This people is the real world.

That is true. Most artists go the way with commissions and really earn a shitload of money doing it. Hell I have been doing pretty good with it so far, and as far as my art goes, it would call at most mediocre.

On a side note: You should try commissions. Just let the customer choose the price he is willing to pay and you'll see that it's really a good deal. Plus your art is more than "good enough" for commissions, if you want to call it that. I havent had any drama so far that couldnt easily be solved by a "No.".

But yeah, I digress. A lot of people have made their points and if he is not willing to react on it and remain stubborn, then there is nothing more to be said.

I think you're a great artist.

THanks very much :D Very kind of you

Awww, take care *hugs*
ill miss you :<

you're getting upset over something that's common!!!

Ya know what?! I've had it!

I'm removing you from my watch list!!

You sure showed him!

Pulling the selling doesn't punish the pirates it punishes those who would have paid of it and your wallet. talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

And it's why I just laugh.

Looks like nobody, from furry artists, to the RIAA/MPAA, piracy WILL HAPPEN. You can't stop it. The only thing you can do is continue to produce better things that make people want to buy.

Basic damned business 1-oh-fucking-1.

shit should have bought it now I cant ah well

No offense but...crapping on fans of your artwork based on what a few have done is the wrong route.

Also...you're making cries of being ripped off/disrespected/having things stolen, when half of the pics I see on that message board involve trademarked characters belonging to other people (Calvin, Hobbes, Brian, Stewie, Scar, Simba, Timon, Pumbaa). Hypocrite much?

I was waiting for someone to say something about that. He could get sued tons for selling copy written charaters in that pack, if Disney saw it. So yes. He is being a hypocrite.

YEah well what about the Doujinshi industry in japan? They make money off of established characters and I don't see moralfags bitching about THAT.

Though basically if you draw a copywirtten character and bitch someone is stealing your art, you're being a hypocrite when you're making money off of someone else's work, like Disney's, so FR has no right to bitch at all. If someone was stealing his art that he made himself of his own characters and not copywritten characters. Then he has the right to bitch and do what he's doing now. Basically what he's doing right now is going to get him called a hipocrit, told he's doing the wrong thing to do and losing him watchers/money that he needs to survive as it seems he draws art to live off of.

Redirection is a fantastic tool in the argumenter's repertoire, isn't it?

It doesn't change the fact that Moralfags only go after artists they don't like but let people they like infringe copyrights.

Either be against ALL copyright infringers or don't be against them at all, because in the end What it boils down to is assassination of character.

THese twats latch on to an artist that probably didin't give them giftarts or maybe has more talent than they do, or maybe looked at them funny at a con; I dunno... but then the artist finds himself in the role of target.

Whatever, these people are as transparent to me as a glass window, they pick one sticking point of an artist and argue it to death, until the artist decides if he wants shit from an asshole he'll go move his bowels, and so, he leaves, maybe permanently.

I saw this coming, I really did, all of it. And whoever is responsible should step in front of a moving bus.

Wishing death to people because you won't be getting your animal porn? Wow.

I'm wishing death to these folks because they are useless to society.

Well that's because those artist aren't whinning and throwing a tantrum like a 3 year old, like FR is right now. That's what gets him all this crap he's getting now. He brings it on himself. If he would have just taken it on like a mature adult or person and talked to these sites that has his stuff on it in a calm manner, instead of thowing a hissy fit and posting journals linking to said board sites, then he wouldn't have to do what he's doing now and have people lose respect in him and unwatch him, making him lose money. Also people are going to be twats and assholes and take stuff that they pay for and post on board sites. It's not right, but the artist that draws the stuff doesn't need to throw a tantrum about art of characters they drew which are copywirtten to major companies getting stolen, since they are stealing the characters themselves. Which I don't think you see that point at all. Cause all those people who are in the Doujinshi industry in japan aren't whinning that people are taking there stuff and posting it on board sites, cause they know to keep it quite or they can get sued by the legal owners of the character, if they cause a scence. That's like you being in a crowed place like NYC in times square and screaming, "That guy stole my purse!" When in fact the purse was already stolen by you. If that guy gets caught, you're going to get caught as well, so both of you will go down and people will look at you badly. So yeah. FR has no right to bitch at all that his art got stolen when he's selling art of copywritten characters of a major company. As long as he doesn't bitch, he's good. Mostly when you make a scene on the net. All the eyes of the world are on you and depending on what you say. You can lose respect, be called a hypocrite, just be hated, lose things and/or other things. Plus if that person did get hit by a bus and killed that stole FR's work. Someone else would rise up, take his place and do the same thing. That's just how the world works sometimes and you better get used to it.

VGM

disney does nto care about their characters, they only care about their teen shit. sadly thats the truth

i understabd seeling, but when your on a furry site, expect to see porn of everything

Actually no. They do care about their characters when someone is making money off of thier characters and not getting a part of the pie, so to speak. Sadly that's what all compainies are after hese days. Profit. When someone is stepping on their toes and taking some of their profit away from them from themselves, well then it gets personal.

Don't shoot the messenger just because you don't like the message. All your cries of moralfag and consistency are diversions to try to distract from the following facts:

Danilo distributed artwork based off other peoples' work.
Danilo threw a fit when someone else posted his artwork.

That's it.

I don't a major interest in this either way, but the crying fits of drama are sometimes amusing to watch.

Which just goes to show they only rip off artists they don't like.

Let's face it, this isn't about Copyright infringement, this is harassment.

Someone knew it would bring great lulz to poke FR with sticks, so they did. They're nut hurting the artists, they're hurting the fandom. Everyone says "Oh they're'll be 10 artists to take his place" where are these ten artists? And why are they not even remotely as talented?

Let's face it, these folks are driving away the good artists and leaving us to rot in a pile of shitty ones, they should enjoy their lulz while they can, because if they bring that shit to MY messageboard, they're gonna find out which end of the banhammer is the business end, real fast.

God help them if they ever set foot in my forum and start shit.

I wish the admins here were a little more wise to what's going on here.

"Someone knew it would bring great lulz to poke FR with sticks, so they did."

It's possible. I can't deny that maybe some 4channer decided to harass a furry artist. Certainly some of the postings -after- FR's spazfest are done as a reaction to his reaction. But mostly, Danilo is not that important. Neither are you, neither am I. His work is being shared because people want it, it's easy, and it's free. It's not even a "furry" thing, this is the same thing that happens with movies, music... basically any electronic media which is only available by legitimate means for money when the incremental cost of creating a copy is zero.

You think this is personal, but you're a little too close to the matter to be rational about it. Take a deep breath, step back, and ask yourself which is more logical: that people are targeting Danilo for harassment by posting his for-pay works on hard-to-find offshore sites... or that people are copying his work because it's easy and they want it and free is better than $20?

If rape is legal somewhere, that means it's legal HERE. I'll go grab a virgin, you get the guys!

There is no "here" on the internet, dude.

that was the point

Look out your window. Do you see a giant lizard with atomic breath?

Oh lord, I hope not. After the lizard comes tentacle porn and crush videos

That's because in Japan, doujins are ENCOURAGED by the companies. Hell, doujins = exposure for them.

However, this is not the case for WESTERN copyright, something which is found in FR's work.

This is entirely the wrong approach to this "problem." You can't undo what's been done, and there were plenty of people telling you this would happen before you even finished the project. I was one of them.

Everyone else already said what I would have, but A-non-e-moose put forth a great point: if you'd stuck around, you'd be able to make a killing with commission money. People would line up for you to draw them pictures, and yeah, they'll get widely distributed, but so does everything on the internet, and you're still pocketing the cash and raising your notoriety at the same time, bringing in more business.

Most of the people who claim they're "leaving" wind up coming back. Baleeting everything and disappearing is not the right course of action, and if you expect to continue making money from your artistic talent, doing this is going to put an immediate stop to that.

You've got a lot of fans. Even the people who scanned and shared your project are your fans. You'll lose them all if you do this.

aw man, i really wanted to buy that.

Welcome to the internet.

Or rather, bye.

There's plenty of other artists out there who get less pissed off over this kind of thing, so...

That's usually because their art sucks.

Not really, have you seen all the other artists that brush this off? this includes top level artists.

Do you not understand what the word usually means? A few good artists not minding their stuff getting reposted does not invalidate my comment.

"That's usually because their art sucks."

What that mean's is, your claiming the only reason that most artists stay on the net and draw is because their art sucks. Have I gotten your meaning correctly?

Strike 2.

Would you just tell me then? I've seen many uses of the word "suck" But I can't comprehend how your using it at this moment.

Agreed.

He said:
"There's plenty of other artists out there who get less pissed off over this kind of thing..."

I said:
"That's usually because their art sucks."



Sucks = bad art.

Meaning:
Their art is not good, so they do not care if it gets reposted. They are just happy somebody looked at it. Most of the good artists I know care if something of theirs gets posted to the net without their permission. They usualy don't get pissed enough to stop posting altogether, but they do start limiting what they post.

And now you know.

Understood. Though there is a huge difference to limiting what they post and stop posting entirely and take away what they had too. In the long run, it screws us fans more than it screws him, especially those of us who were unable to purchase anything from him in the first place.

Agreed, and I don't understand why he is refusing to sell to any new people that want to buy it, but I guess I don't need to understand everything.

Random much?

Is that supposed to make sense?

Nahh, it's because they're not immature babies.
If you have a furry porn comic that you're selling, it only takes ONE PERSON to say "hey cool check out this furry porn comic I just bought!!" and they distribute it.
Every person that sells their art should know that, if they don't, prepare for dissappointment.
Besides, these people aint erasing copyrights and all that, they're just showing others the comic.

TL;DR: If you plan on selling a porn comic, expect people to distribute it without your permission.

Way to try and be a troll. I don't fucking care what you think. You're worthless to me.

I've seen this shit happen a million and a half fucking times. It's stupid and it's old. If he wants to quit drawing because some fuckwit posted art on an imageboard, oh fucking well. It's his loss.

Way to try and be a troll. I don't fucking care what you think. You're worthless to me.

I've seen this shit happen a million and a half fucking times. It's stupid and it's old. If he wants to quit drawing because some fuckwit posted art on an imageboard, oh fucking well. It's his loss.

So good you had to say it twice.

Quite.

I sympathize with your feelings.

Let me know if there is any chance of me getting on the list of people you share art with, or if you ever decide to take commissions again.

Don't you think you're being rather ridiculous with this whole thing? Because some people decided to steal your art you just piss on all your fans like that?

Ugh, at times I can empathize but now...it's just silly. Do what you want man, you can't please everyone, and you ARE making pornographic pictures of character which do not belong to you.

Oh wait..Stray said it first. DAMN YOU STUBBY.

No, I don't think he's being ridiculous, at this point; before, yes, I would've said he was being a bit unreasonable because he was taking his frustrations out on the fandom and not the one asshole screwing him over, but think about it in this context: I've been following FurryRevolution's stuff, and this is the third time in a month this has happened to him. THIRD TIME IN A [i][MONTH!!!/i] Now, if that isn't saying something, I dunno what does. And this is a couple of hours after my mate received a random note from an asshole named SnakeJake asking him to trade this very same art pack for some of ArtDecade's uncensored stuff. Just...what the hell?!

If I even remember correctly, FA even requested, the first time, that his stuff NOT be redistributed until after a MONTH after they were posted. And the assholes can't even respect THAT! Have we become so greedy, so calloused to the rights and respects of our fellow fur that we just don't give a fuck what we do to them, just so long as we get what we want? Yes, I sometimes join in the group that tells artists to stop overreacting when they do shit like this, but that's because it's become almost instinctual for an artist to assume the worst case scenario and pull a Garyu each fucking time something like this happens, and it doesn't solve the immediate issue; they don't go after the idiot who's mooching their stuff, they're not taking steps to control the damage, they're simply assuming that EVERYONE is the enemy, and decide the best way to protect their work is to take it all off, entirely, and keep it out of their hands as their first kneejerk reaction to this. That' I agree, is stupid, but this... this has just ridiculous. There's no way I can say that this reaction isn't justified, at this point.

As far as I'm concerned, FurryRevolution has the right idea; none of the current "art fans" are REAL art fans, and are just following their lord and savior SibeHusky in fulfilling his word in the Church of Furry Art Dickery. The fandom is NOT an artist-friendly place, anymore, and although I don't like to see him go, this month of hell for him proves he cannot stay.

I didn't read any of this because I already know I don't care.

While i'm sure what you had to say may have been important to someone, it wasn't to me. But I will defend your right to say it. Whatever it is you said.

I don't need to be defended by an ingrate like you, who can't even give enough of a shit about what's going on to even give a proper tl;dr. You can go burn, you and all of the selfish, ungrateful, hypocritical assholes on here who are driving this fandom to an untimely grave.

I believe with words like yours, it's your kind which drive the fandom into the ground. Seeing as you think it's necessary to apply your opinion where it is not really needed. Because you see kind sir, if you never made the epic paragraph to explain to a person whom you don't know, who you don't talk to, or who you have no pre-existing information or their relationship to the person they are aiming their comment to that makes you an asshole, ungrateful, and most of all the spark of drama that causes the infinite ripple of arguments.

Now I was being nice, I don't know you, and your opinion is your opinion but I have no interest in it I'm afraid. You may want to just accept that not everyone will lend you an ear, if you can't then I'm sorry for your inability to even remotely feign maturity. But i'm positive from now on I won't look to someone like you for an opinion as regardless you must win all arguments.

lol how is he selfish for not giving a tl;dr?

eyeroll

That about sums up my feelings also... This kind of thing happens a lot with art, it is something to get upset over. However to just stop dead making them really doesn't solve anything. Isn't one of the objects of making art for others to "appreciate" it? I can see where he's coming from, i do. But come on?! Really?!

Auch... some people doesn't know limits :/ I'm sorry to hear about it. Even when I don't like the idea of not seeing more of your art I'll respect your decision

There's better money in commissions than a pay-comic or website. How much per drawing? Twenty Euros. How many can you get in a day?

More than a hundred?


Following my logic?

Huh?

Can do.

I AM GOD BOW BEFORE ME!

no

I'M LEAVING THEN!

furrries, and artwork, serious business.

I'm hypnotized by your avatar, it just reminds me of those sucker things from that one tv show

The "Yip-Yip's"? from sesame street?

That's it!

Glad i could help =^_^=

Referring to sesame street as "that one tv show"? Nice :P

I think I actually know the cartoon where this is from...
...it's terribad at best...
But if it led to be redone into a furry avatar it's existence found purpose!

I couldn't remember the exact show it was on. I was like six or seven last time I remembered something like that. xD

Once its on the internet its out there for all eyes to see, some people just decide to spread it

This is a little bit silly.

Think about that commission money...

Some people charge ridiculous amounts for shitty artwork done in MSPaint of Sonic the Hedgehog characters. You're actually, you know, an artist.

You can charge like fifty bucks here and there and make a killing! You're nowhere near the first person to have their material shared. Welcome to the intertubes.

All those submissions will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to leave furry forever.

Nerd rage much.

Glad other industries are mature enough to not close down when someone downloads something for free.

BAWWWWW

Seriously dude, your panties are way, way too much in a twist.

I'll miss you. I enjoyed buying both your packs and would have continued patronizing you. It's a loss to the furry community.

Yeah, unfortunately though I like your art, if you're trying to simply sell something that is digital you're going to fail. This was doomed from the get-go. I'm sorry to see you leave, but your expectations were way too high.

:(

Sorry to hear that, goodbye then, have a good life.

Sadly, there's no preventing it from happening, people are just...jerks, if big companies can't figure out how to prevent it, the little guy sure won't either sadly..though I wish i could have bought both but I had no way to buy either

dont go~ :c

*another ass kissing comment*

Boo
hoo

Wow... I really love(d) your art and respected you as an artist, but this is downright pathetic. It's been said twenty times over already, but jeesus man, this is the fucking internet... your art is gonna get distributed whether you like it or not, but apparently you can't deal with that. This is just really childish.

Anyone else feel a reminisce of the whole "Napster Incident" and Metallica?...
I laughed.
Good Bye~

Agreed

Awww, big shame, buddy. Hang in there. People are always going to want something for free

Pas "and with whom we pay to see more work of yours? : (

I do not think that because a few things do not have to pay it all. sorry po translation: S

I will miss you greatly....

its unfortunate that people repost others art without permission. more unfortunate that its done more just to be assholes. im sorry this happened to you, but its going to keep happening. if you print it and sell it as a comic book or in some other physical medium, theres going to be a douchebag who scans the pages and posts them.

lol

I was afraid you'd act like this... can you please reconsider? Why don't you just do free artwork and some commissions? I would've wanted one someday you know.

I'm sorry that you got ripped off and all, but seriously, it happened before with your pay comic, so did you really think having a fit would solve it from happening again?

"I was afraid you'd act like this... can you please reconsider?"

There's a good chance of it. This has happened before.

gli chiederei di fare un esperimento di mente.
se poteste limitare il posto in cui quelle immagini sono state pubblicate in primo luogo, allora potreste chiedere al coordinatore di tale posto assistenza trattando questo.
ora siete arrabbiato e con motivo, perché i vostri impianti stanno usandi senza compensazione a voi.
tuttavia, potreste pubblicare la vostra arte in questo Web site, con una poca qualità, in modo da non può essere riutilizzata.
quell'arte ha potuto persino essere conceduta una licenza Creative Commons con una filigrana.
così le persone che realmente come i vostri impianti, (come me) può vedere più e le persone che danno la a! " #$%, può essere contrastato
e riservi gli impianti di migliore qualità a coloro che paga e quegli impianti con un codice numerico, o un particolare soltanto che potreste vedere, solo per quegli impianti, in modo da voi potrebbe conoscere chi lo ha strappato fuori.quello è soltanto un esperimento. ed è la mia speranza che riconsiderate la vostra linea di condotta attuale. perdoni prego la grammatica difettosa, non parlo italiano e sto usando un programma destinato all'elaboratore per tradurre.

So since I am poor & not an artist, I will not be able to see your art ever again? That's fucked up. I understand why you are angry, but come on..... Think of your fans.

...Probably not your best day, is it, FR?

Ouch man. :<


Long shory short: This is kind of a harsh move since your really punishing us for what trolls did.

Listen: Distributing artwork despite them having a watercolor and copyright label or just a little print that says "Please do not redistribute or steal" is still going to happen. Not just YOU but everyone else, I got myself a nice list of artists as great as you that has this happened. Sorry but it'll happened and it can't be helped.


But just going away like this is just immature, a way of letting those distributors win. >.> I'd give symphony to all of this but your action is just making it worse. If that's your desicion fine, but I don't think folks would look at you more possitive then. See ya. :<


On a side note: Any more "This is the internets" comments and I'll pop you straight in the mouth.

This is the internets

The internets this is

Internets is the this

GODS DAMMIT! DX

Inherent thesis tits

Get some internetz for yours

What an exit.

"PEOPLE LIKE MY ART, SO FUCK YOU GUYS I'M NEVER DRAWING FOR YOU AGAIN!!!"

Who are you to talk anyway? You were selling fan art of COPYRIGHTED CHARACTERS. You were breaking more laws than the people who distributed your art for free, that's for sure.

Good riddance, your art's not worth all the whining anyway. Have fun hording your creations like a lunatic instead of making your poor fans happy.

I was wondering when someone might mention this. If this guy isn't sued by Disney and Dreamworks (among others), I'll be very surprised.

Well, your form was nice but I've seen better flounces. 6/10.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Who would have known that drawing for a pretty small community with a specific direction of interest would make a dude selfish.

Take commissions. You would make more money this way and not have to worry about the (inevitable) pirating. It sucks, but you are acting like a child over this. You're only hurting yourself by pulling everything off the site, there are plenty of other artists people will fap to.

Hey guys, what's that word where you have to RESPECT the artists' wishes when you know what they are and such?

I forget.

Heya! Welcome to the Internet!

Yep, isn't it glorious.

You're stupid you know that? Have fun making no money at all!

sry to see ya go, but doesn't Artdecade's site get ripped and uploaded periodically? same for other artists. but i dont see them clearing out their FA because of it. Point is, where there is internet, there is piracy. And you still had people that wanted to buy it even if some douche uploaded it for free.

UPSETTING!
i really liked all of your stuff.
so what if they steal your stuff, unless they are getting profit, anyone can see it anyways. and if they do get profit, sue them.

Though he can't sue them when he's selling art of copywritten charaters. He'll get sued back by the legal owners of said characters he drew, since he's making money off of it. That's all his imagepack he sold was full of I'm told of by my friend who bought it. So yeah. He can sue if it was his own arts of his own characters, but not of already copywritten characters.

Thats what i meant. the stuff that belongs to others already is pretty much fan art.

True. Though whinny about someone stealing art of you drawing copywritten characters that you're making money off of is being a hypocrit and some people that are trying to defend him, just don't get that point. I guess as long as they get something to fap off to. They don't care about logic.

I can see about defending him if someone was stealing his art that he drew of charaters he made, but mostly the defination I've come to learn of "Art Theft" when I joined the fandom was... "If someone takes the art you draw and clams it as their own, doing little to no modifications to it, whether they sell it for person gains or not" is art therft. When in the hell did posting it to boards like Fchan, Annon, ext. and sharing it with your friends over things like IM programs, P2P programs, torrents or buring it to a cd and then giving it to a friend, become "Art Theft"? When did that part get written to the book of rules for art?

as far as i know it didn't. As long as you get credit for what you did i don't think there is really a problem unless you make one.

Also true. Though giving credit is good, if you didn't do the art yourself for characters that the artists drew that are yours, cause you can post that, if the artists says you can, since you commissioned it or requested it. Physically not drawing it yourself and claming it that, "Yeah. This is my work and I drew this, myself" That's art theft and you get rained on so hard by people, calling you an art thief and telling you so and so drew it, not you. That's what gets you banned from here. So that's what I've seen is art therft here. Not posting art to boards and sharing art with each other on the things that I've said above.

what the fuck is wrong with you?! don't you realize that this is actually giving you more publicity? you know becoming a well known artist on the internet! FUCK GROW A FUCKING SENCE OF HUMOR! shit! ......but that's just me

Looked at your art. I've seen better. Not the worst, but not my fave. No big loss.

Also, Copywritten Characters + Furry Porn + internet distribution = NEW CONCEPT. END OF WORLD ENSUES.

nothign wrong with it, disney escappaly could car eless abotu their old shit, they love their teen stuff more, so im guessing if miley cirus was naked then they would freak

Disney's a big money grubbing company, I'm sure if they caught wind of it they'd demand it taken down.

Also, Miley Cirus was naked on the cover of a magazine once. Vanity Fair, if I remember correctly. Got pulled from the shelves in a week. Haha

sorry, i have family memebers that work at disney, their bosses say they could care less abotu their pre existing old franchises, when they got word i was doing porn of talespin, they ignored it because its a low profit show that got locked away years ago, same with gargolyes and ducktales

you also forgot that disney has stores where they sell bras and shit for little girls, yet they forgot to mention that unless The young turks brings it up

saldy, your comment stuck out again just liek the /b/ tards who are spaming FR saying he sucks

So... pointing out the logical fallacy of this guy throwing a shit fit because his stolen characters got stolen makes me a /b/tard? God you're a retard.

And what the hell does Disney selling their own merchandise have to do with anything?

Also, did you specifically tell them you were selling it for personal gain? Is your art even good enough for Disney to give a shit if you did? I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate it it if it were. Oh not to mention I think you're total bullshit. I don't even think Disney has a Swedish branch. Even if they did, I doubt you, or anybody you know works for them.

1)assumptions are your worse enemy, comparing and sayign you are one is completely different

2)that people are bicthing about said companies goign on a wicth hunt to this site because oh noezs,.....we have porn of them, get over it

3)sorry, i have family memeber living in america shitface. i'll call them up and see if i can hook a line from them to you, that is if they see you as an important person. No, i dont sell my shit, free art is better, but then again, assumptions assumptions.

1: You're the one making the assumption Disney doesn't hold a copyright to a character because of the fact they don't produce merchandise or footage of the character anymore.



2: I still have no fucking clue what you're on about

3: People living in America doesn't make them Disney employees. And even if they were, you aren't making profit off it, and Disney doesn't know. If however they were condoning the sale and distribution of the characters, they'd be fired. If you don't sell your art then Disney isn't gonna say anything, if they don't know it exists and it's not making a profit, they don't care.

"People living in America doesn't make them Disney employees. And even if they were, you aren't making profit off it, and Disney doesn't know. If however they were condoning the sale and distribution of the characters, they'd be fired. If you don't sell your art then Disney isn't gonna say anything, if they don't know it exists and it's not making a profit, they don't care."

"People living in America doesn't make them Disney employees"

who said they were forced to? they work their because thats there job they choose to do. i fail to see how they can get fired for telling a boss that an adult is making "free" pictures on a parody site thats strictly pg13 and above.

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"If you don't sell your art then Disney isn't gonna say anything, if they don't know it exists and it's not making a profit, they don't care."

You got the first part right, but again, the second needs fixing, the result is: Disney knows im doing this for free, so they see no problem at all. if i went out saying this show was mine, then thats a problem unless i payed up for the show to own it

with that said, go back to your comments against FR, his journal needs it along with his page too, since it seems people want to protect their childhoods and any realistic logic is out the window

This guy isn't doing it for free. That's where you entire argument falls apart. He was selling copyrighted characters for personal gain, and thus breaking international law.

And dammit, FA needs to fix their blocking system.

Let him cook his own goose, its his life, because this drama fest you and others have started is just like what happened to chewfox, unneeded drama within the group that makes what the media shows as a kiddie fest in comparision

block me please, shows your weak and can't take people against you

You started an entire argument over someone doing something illegal saying it was fine. THEN you agree with me that what he was doing was illegal once I've completely smashed your argument and pointed out the most obvious thing in this entire thread.

And no, I'm blocking you cos you can't make a logical argument to save your life, and you don't stop, I'm sick of the flood of Baww I get from you. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work on other people's journals, so I'm ending this now.

U MAD? yup sure is

Nope, I'm just bored.

sure, would have left along time ago if you were

Also, Are you following me around just to contradict me?

Seriously.

dont need to, follow drama on this site and who knows who will end up

Someone ripped my art?

BAWWW CLOSE EVERYTHING!

You are acting like a god damn child deleting all your art like this; hope someone saved all your images; including your pay-for-works so your fans can still view them.

president madagascar, a man in brazil is coughing!

I guess the only thing that confuses me is the decision to stop selling your product because a handful of people effectively shoplifted it. That doesn't mean everyone else out there will and there are plenty of people who would be more than happy to pay for the stuff and support you directly. Revenue is revenue and cutting off any still viable source I just find baffling.

Sorry to see you go. Was awesome having you around :]

Thanks for all the art, and hope things go well in whatever you do :]

So there's this guy, right? He's walking along a trail and sees a primed bear trap. As a preventative measure he sets about sawing his foot off...

Sound familiar?

The best way to not make any money is to not sell anything at all. I mean this as earnestly as possible Furryrevolution, you're making a terrible mistake. I know the internet can be a terrible place full of disrespectful customers, but stooping to their level and behaving childishly is a sure fire way to lose respect. It is just like shooting yourself in the foot.

Tolerating pirates isn't something I advocate frequently, but when you release your work into this kind cultural climate (of jerks) be prepared to face the consequences. In a world like the internet where there are no consequences for misbehavior, it's best to collect respectable folks. Not through a careful screening process, but through behavior. Act like the people you want to attract, and you will find yourself surrounded by them.

My opinion on the subject, take it or leave it. Perhaps other people have reasonable opinions who are capable of an honest discussion?

I completely agree and I think the only reason he was here was to make money.. not to draw because he liked to or to please his fans or anything else.

No. He wanted to get paid.

You want that? Go to Deviant Art.

If you don't want your work to be re-released .. don't release it on the internet. And even if you did THAT people would scan it in anyway and post it on the internet!

The thing that pisses me off about this whole ordeal is that he's acting like he's the ONLY artist that has gone thru this and when he found out he acted in the way of.. "That's it! I am leaving and taking my ball with me!"

And my reaction to that is. "Go ahead, we don't need you or your ball. Because you and your ball can be replaced."

That's all I have to say about that.

p.s. he's LUCKY to have pulled these packs before ANY copyright lawyers caught wind of this. If ANY of these studios caught wind of him doing this shit.. he'd be slapped with a lawsuit so fast it'd make his head spin!

Though he was doing this for the money to live. That's why he was selling these arts and that. for If you go back and read the journals about it, if he didn't delete them already. He even says that he does the art for money to pay for bills, food and to live off of. Also on a board site that he linked in his journal. Someone posted that he doesn't have an education, so he can't get a job or something like that and he quoted what FR said to him, himself. If the thread on the board site wasn't deleted, I would copy/paste it here. So yeah. I dunno if he's doing it for money to support himself in life or if he's doing it for money to have for himself to spend on himself for things like video games and other luxury items. Anyway... We'll know the latter if he comes running back, asking for commissions and opening a lot of slots, due to not being able to live without doing art for money to keep paying his bills off.

*nods* Last I heard, Disney doesn't take very well to their characters being drawn like this, and even less so not being paid for their use. And he honestly thought selling these pictures for his profit - HIS profit - was a good idea?? Man, troubles with internet piracy is NOTHING compared to what might happen if the material falls into certain people's hands...

if the material falls into certain people's hands...

This can be made possible.

I said reasonable opinions. This appears to be a threat and I'd really appreciate it if you wouldn't come into my part of this discussion to rake muck.

I'd like to point out that FA doesn't need more attention drawn to it, especially considering all the sexual deviancy that floods this site's galleries. I myself happen to have Disney characters doing unlawful stuff in my gallery, so don't go throwing around phrases like that without considering the repercussions of your actions. Just chill out and please stop hate mongering. I understand you are angry, but being hurtful just reinforces the bad vibes, man.

There would be no point in bringing this back to FA, as FR was pretty anonymous to begin with. That and there wouldn't be anything here that would help a company track him down.

Ahh, certainly. However, it's still a pretty spiteful and cruel move. Not that FR wasn't spiteful and cruel in the first place, he was just responding to the spiteful (or more likely just plain inconsiderate) reposting of his artwork... and now you can see how these waves of negativity continue to propagate themselves.

So I really gotta ask that if you are among those who see FR's behavior as a bad choice of action, then why are you in turn choosing to react in the same way he is reacting. I'm sure it may be possible to feign ignorance and pretend it's in the name of "just returns." However, it's only a position that masks the fact that you would only be carrying on the same legacy of hatefulness. Which would only stop when everyone agrees to your terms of justice, something that I hope you can see does not ever happen.

Wouldn't you rather be among those who don't repeat this behavior?

So, making it known to companies that an individual is taking their property and benefiting from it monetary without their permission is in the same camp as Furryrevolution's reactions and behavior?

You're not clarifying yourself very well. It's all about intention. Now, if you genuinely thought that Furry Revolution was doing wrong by the very nature of his art pack, and took it upon yourself to follow it up by telling on him. That would be different. However you were talking about tattling on FR as a form of vengeance for his behavior when he took his work home and the all kinds of childish he's exhibited lately.

My previous statement was about the reactionary behavior, not the specific actions themselves. Obviously there is not a literal comparison on that level. Choosing to acknowledge only that level of the conversation out of self inflicted ignorance is the choice to stop participating in the conversation.

In fact, all your posts on this page have been antagonistic and unproductive... just one more face in an angry internet mob. Either hang up your pitchfork and add something worth while, or go home.

If I am to clarify, you're saying that you really ARE here to act as copyright police?

If not exactly what is your stake in this then?

Bruce beat me to it.

The difference between you and Furryrevolution, though, is that the pics he created were intended to be sold for his own profit. I made a journal entry about this topic, asking doing such a thing potentially opens himself up to legal action against him. If I'm making incorrect assumptions, you're more than free to correct me.

(Trust me, this wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong about something...)

colin

disney doesnt care about their old shit, they care more about the prfoits of the teens and real people, mickey is old news to them

Thank you. After 3 1/2 hours of cheap shots and drama, finally some common sense.

You're welcome. I thought that if I contributed, I'd at least add something worth while. What do I get in return? People talking about lawsuits. I kinda thought that being reasonable would invoke some reasonable kindness on both sides of the fence. Unfortunately that was a horrible horrible pipe dream. Just because the internet is a series of tubes, doesn't mean I get to have pipe dreams.

I still have belief that behaving in a certain way engenders that kind of behavior in the attitudes of others, elsewhere and on the internet. Furry Revolution has earned himself a lot of enmity for his behavior... (but so has everyone else) and I think that it's also not totally impossible that this negative charge could be reversed.

Only if people want to.

I appreciate your point of view. Myself, I hope that someone knowledgeable talks FR down a bit, and helps him think more clearly about all this.

One thing I noticed is that FurryRevolution is pirating popular mainstream characters from Disney, Warner Brothers, Dreamworks, etc., etc.

It's very hard to play the, "I'm being robbed!" card if you are robbing other artists by plagiarizing characters meant to entertain children and depicting them in erotic situations.

nothign wrong with it, disney could care less abotu what happens to mickey, they prefer high school muscial and teens over furries

I have absolutely no qualms with people making porn of cartoon characters as long as they keep it out of the hands of children. It's only when people start selling porn of cartoon characters -- AND -- then complain when other people 'pirate' 'their' works that I have to disagree; because the characters weren't theirs to begin with. They can't claim intellectual property rights on a character they don't own.

Racthetmechanic, you draw porn of Disney's Tailspin characters. I have no problem with that as long as you realize you are not the creator of those characters, the creator of those characters don't care (and you are right, they don't apparently), and you exercise common sense (as anyone would) in keeping the content away from kids (and you do). You don't sell your drawings of copyrighted charachers, as far as I know, but if you did, I have no problem. Go right on ahead -- I won't come after you. I think the idea of Mickey Mouse being sodomized by Goofy -- and Winnie the Pooh sodomizing Eeyore, while Piglet gets his sack gobbled around front, is abso-fuckin'-lutely hilarious! Hurrah for cartoon porn! I'm happy there are people in the world with such a twisted minds and snarky senses of humor.

However, no one can claim a character they didn't create is theirs. I am against hypocrisy. No one can prevent others from drawing characters (not that (FurryRevolution did such, I'm just illustrating a principle) that they themselves draw but don't own. If someone makes a drawing of a character they don't own and then sells it, and someone else comes along and steals it, the original counterfeiter has no right to claim ownership to a character they themselves stole in order to make a profit.

That's all I'm saying.

:0 See ya, won't miss your whining.

Unfortunately piracy is a fact of life on the internet these days. I'm sorry to see you go, you're one of the best artists who draws movie-based characters.

You do realize that by killing the sale of the folio, you just perpetuated the piracy by making it the ONLY way people will ever see it.

Chalk another victory up to the internet.

i cant beleave* ur leaving. this sucks. we will miss u FR. please do take care bro -hugs-

If you're going to post in this country, learn English.

Cause.. I've no idea what the in the Nine Furry Hells is going on here from that sentence.

I lol'd.

You have good art that people have complimented and bought.


Some people got the art you wanted them to buy, but for free from someone who did buy it.

These two things are worthy of some sympathy.




Completely not sharing or selling any of your artwork except to your closest friends is not, however. Simply because there is no logic behind it. If you do sell some of the art you draw than you make a profit for something you're doing anyways. Whether or not some people don't buy it doesn't change the fact you're making a profit from what is essentially very well-drawn fanart.


Do you hear what I am saying?

I can't stay silent anymore, you are a moron Furryrevolution, a big moron. You preaching about stealing art when you stole art from others, you are a hypocrite. I did repect you, I was on your side when your comic was posted without premission. But now you have lost all my respect, I know that might not mean nothing to you or to many. You are just like some players in World of Warcraft and other games, we call them elitists. They think they are so much better than the rest of us the so called "casual" players and think we should do what they say, well you are a elitist furry artist. I admit you are good at drawing, but you are a jerk. You say goodbye to us, well I say goodbye to you jerk.

Hey hey hey... leave us hardcore gamers out of this... WE don't steal art, nor do we plagiarize other peoples' works.

I've just had enough of elitists, gamers or artist. But not all elitist gamers are bad and I apologize if I insulted you *bows*

Accepted :)

Unwarranted elitism; FR isn't a professional artist by any stretch of the imagination.

Well he my not be a professional artist, but people hold him up in that light, so in those people's eyes they see him as that.

maybe, maybe not, but if you look at this journal of his how much it has gotten attention. I say he was a professional furry artist.

Please allow me to tip my hat to you.
If I wore one, that is...
At least, I shall raise my mug!

thanks, Furryrevolution is sure acting like a spoiled brat.

Well said, hasani! Well said!

I bet he hasn't though about what might happen to him if Disney or Dream Works wants to sue him, both are big companies and they can bring the "Wrath of God" on him...........legally.

And I have seen disney lawyers at work. You think vampires are scary? They have nothing on Disney lawyers.. trust me

disney could care less about their old shit, they care more about the new teen shit that is out, stuff like mickey is old news to them, not cool enough

wtf i play World of Warcraft and most people consider me an elitist simply because i don't like pugs and i am not willing to run a random level 5 through RFC.

no, elitist are players that are just simply assholes and brag about how good they are. There are hardcore gamers who play games for fun and are good at them, elitist are gamers that play games and just make the game feel worse for all.

Mmmm, I'd qualify myself as a World of Warcraft elitist. I don't look down on others though and frequently help guildies who aren't as practiced.

Maybe we just have different definitions.

well if you don't look down at others, then you are just a hardcore gamer. Elitist play hard and are just assholes to other players making the game less fun for them.

this is bullshit, why cant people respect the artists!

I didn't know that someone who put lines to paper was entitled to being respected.

everyone deserves respect, am I wrong?

Respect is earned, not given.

And when they pull shit like this.. respect is taken away.

No, respect should always be given unless the person does something specifically negative to take it away. Maybe you're thinking of admiration.

I don't go spitting on random people in the street even though it could be fun, and not for the "I don't want to get my ass kicked" reason either. It's because I have respect for my fellow man. I think a lack of respect for a random person would be misanthropic.

dude less drama more art please

Now taking bets on when he comes back.

Now taking bets on when Wolfblade shows up to defend him.

i lol'd hard

You'll have to settle for RacthetMechanic.

Nyoro~n... <:3c

As a paying customer, I can't help but feel slighted by something that the rest of us had no control over :1

I would also be annoyed at the fact that the artist himself has posted a link to the distributed work which, by all accounts, probably wouldn't have been seen by most people anyway. I would certainly feel jaded myself if I had just forked out money for it only to then have it splashed everywhere for free.

Boo hoo. See you in a year when you stop B'awwing.

Sorry that happened and you leaving sucks.

Ok, i just looked at that link....

The only picture i can see here that i HAVEN'T seen somewhere else is the "Space Chimps" One...

I'm guessing that is the one in question? Ok... so one of your pics was released.... that sucks...

I feel bad for ya, but pulling everything, yelling about it, and saying you'll never post again won't solve anything. The only things this will do is make your fans mad; all of them. Also, you lose the most practical outlet to let others view your art. Honestly, what's to stop someone from buying a piece you sell in RL, Scanning it, and throwing it online?

The only true way you'll never ever again see your art on the web again is if you never show it to anyone.... EVER! It's the only sure fire way for what you want to happen, to happen! However, then isn't that totally defeating the purpose of making them in the first place? To have others view them?

It seems to me that over the next few days you should calm down and think this over, instead of acting in anger. Not everyone is at fault here and it doesn't do any good to lash out at people like this.

Reading this though, i came up with a kind of solution to your problem.(or semi-solution) Can you imprint an Individual ID number or something on your copies you distribute? That way, even if a copy is made you can take it up with distributor personally? That would involve some work, and the keeping track of each ID number, but that would be able to get the job done, yes? Maybe i'm making it sound simple, when it's not, but that would solve you problem... You should at least try it!

You should at least give those like myself, who don't distribute, at least that...

Just so you know.


The original post had about half of the image pack on there. But it was deleted and replaced with images that were inconsequential.




HOWEVER, now that FR has done this a vexed fan who DID buy the image pack has leaked the entire thing onto an image board So.... yeah, probably should have thought this whole "leaving forever and deleting all my art" thing a bit more through.

Oh?

Well, i suppose that's a bit different... But still, doing something like this doesn't solve anything, ya know?

I believe we do things for our own reasons, you worked hard on that image pack and I believe we all understand that, we also understand the fact that you are counting on this maybe because you want to live of this, or help yourself through a hard time.

But this is not the way. Fandom is not perfect by any means, and this happens to everybody, even the best artists of the best, but somehow everybody manage a way to move on and do it anyway. No matter the precautions you take or the moves you make, eventually someone is gonna leek it.

I'm not saying is okay to cross your arms and let it be, I'm just saying is such a waste that an amazing talent such as yours go to the waste for this very same reason, there are a huge number of people out there working and trying to make a living out of furry with paysites and places like that, and they get leeked too. Same with Magazines, books and everything that gets published. People don't stop buying because of that, sometimes its the opposite, since your content is exclusive you get some aditional advertising through the scans.

You need to offer something that makes a difference, something that goes beyond art up to some point, because in the end art is something that you can always scan and see. Perhaps you can offer a Sketch Comission if you buy a whole bundle of stuff, that way you are not only selling that person your work, but also you are offering something unique.

I don't know how or where do you print your work, how much quality does the paper has, but you can always print it in high quality and in good paper so that makes actually something worth and durable.

I have other ideas such as... I dunno, maybe offering a big Drawing of yours with the bundle for anybody who wants to hang it on the wall or Stuff like that.

Being creative in your work and in your product is what makes you earn profits, even if there is people leaking your stuff, because you make sure that the person who buys gets something with what he is gonna be satisfied with and very happy.

I don't know, we all love furry, You do your drawings with passion and dedication, you can draw almost anything I could've ever imagine, is a shame and a waste if you just stop here.

I have been watching your art for years and I love every single piece :)

If that is your final call, then go ahead and do so, but think about it. Sit down, think everything over calmly and make a decision, thats the only thing I can say about all this.

Maybe there are people who said stuff like this before in this same journal, I honestly didn't read so I'm sorry for being repetitive ;P.

even if its not Italian its like...

Suerte y de verdad una pena que esa sea tu decision.

Saludos!
Policho.

Daaaah.... Damn onions :P.

Leeks... are Leak xD

See you in a week then?

......give him two.

i saw week and a half

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fuck....

I'm sorry for all this drama and all, m-OMFG DOGGIES AWWWWWWWWW

I had a lot of respect for you until you pulled this childish hissy-fit. If you relied on this as a source of income, you are an idiot. You are crying over spilled milk, over something none of your real fans have any control over. As many have said, this is the internet. Things you post will get distributed with or without your permission. I find it ironic you claim copyright over characters who you did not create. Maybe this is all just lost in translation. Whatever. Get a job and grow up.

He was doing this as a source of income but then complained when he was working too much? ??? ok.. which is it?

Take a look at a large amount of these comments FR, is it such a shame you're leaving behind a bunch of pigs, ingrates and /b/tards? No, it really isn't. You're a fantastic artist, and your talent deserves to be treated properly. You haven't lost an ounce of respect from me and from the people who haven't thrown a tantrum over not seeing your porn, and I really wish you well in whatever you decide to do.

I lol'd. You think writing a response saying "grow up" is akin to the childish "tantrum" he just tossed into FA?

If one treats me unprofessionally than they get nothing more from me.



The people who leaked his pictures (which took quite a while and still weren't fully leaked) do deserve to be publicly scorned. But FR isn't scorning the pirates, he's scorning his fans and watchers. From my perspective the people who pirated his stuff didn't respect him in the first place. But now that he's decided to completely and utterly remove himself from the community, and punish the masses for the crimes of a few, all he's done is lost respect from people who liked his art and respected him for it. Not only that, he's losing revenue and popularity.

All-in-all while you may call everyone pigs, ingrates, and what not... but is being able to draw Hobbes sucking himself off really make FR so much better than everyone else? I may like his art, but he's acting like a naive child at the moment, and no amount of Ice Age and Lion King porn will make me treat him any other way.




Summary: I respect him for his art, but not his attitude or personality.

I do agree with what you said, but I was speaking from the just the artistic view point. My respect for him hasn't changed for his work and his true talent, his decision here is definitely a dodgy one, I'm not denying that, but I don't understand why he is getting mauled in this way, why can't everyone just shrug and say good luck?

I understand his fans are angry, but at the end of the day, they can't do anything at all to stop this, so In my opinion, his artistic respect is in tact. A large amount of people seem to seriously forget he is a real human being, whilst he may have upset and punished his fans; he does have feelings. I don't see how comments referring to his language usage and style are relevant, fair, or helpful, they aren't, my post was directed toward those people, I apologize if I threw a wider net. I really appreciate your maturity though and explanation I was expecting responses to what I said to be a lot less than that.


Atsuko: Yes, actually. I'm sorry, but who the hell gets the right to tell him to grow up? It's his decision, and yes I know on the Internet opinions are facts, so I'm really fighting a losing battle here, I just wanted to give him my message, I wasn't trying to dip my head into this delicious drama.

With DUE respect Furryrevelation... i adored your art for the most part... but don't you think this is going too far... i mean everysince you start doing all this censoreship, your work doesn't mean squat, i stop favoring people with this CRAP!!! and that is probably the reason why you're suffering so much... well you do what you have to do i guess... i will miss your art though... good luck

sorry "Furryrevolution" well looky here forgetting you were here already

No offense dude, but this is how the net is. It sucks when you dont want it to happen, but it's inevitable. Make it just for the people that pay, and they'll distrubite it. Make it for just people at cons, so there's no scans? They'll scan it and upload it. Only going to let people into a big art place with just your stuff for a fee? Someone's gonna have a good camera phone. Doing this, is like saying "I quit being an artist cause I was being good at it."

~N~

...eh. This is sad. All of it.

Anything I might have wanted to say has been said already, but I'll point out this: I really, really wish you hadn't decided to pull everything on account of this particular incident.

You probably won't read this, but good luck.

You are a baby.

lawl TEH INTERNETZ!!1ONE - 1 / Else - 0

Grief... I'm sure glad I bought the comic the 2nd day it was out. I'm sorry to see you go. Good luck with whatever you end up deciding to do.

I wish I had had money when you were selling publicly. I hope whatever you decide to do makes you happy.

omg you leave? why no pls not wee will miss your art man

Your art is great, but this is just a stupid move and shows how much of an immature ass you are. You don't win by pulling your art and only sharing it with your super close friends, the people pirating just won and you're taking that out on people who haven't done anything to you.

You do know your reputation has gone the way of a trainwreck thanks to the way you act when people defy your wishes right?

Gonna miss your stuff but it really doesn't matter, more artists with just as much skill or more will replace you that don't create a colossal scene over piracy of their sold artwork.


Also laughing at the fact that you tried selling artwork of characters that belong to Disney, if people really wanted they could report you to them and the damage would be worse than a couple people sharing your art.

disney could care less abotu their old characetrs, they care more about teen shit and real people, only KH acaulty cares for the old stuff now

and sir that happens to my art also