Furries are byproducts of methlabs and unprotected sex.

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I know all about this crap. I actually refuse to visit the FA forums anymore becuse I got shot down for defending otherkins in general.

I believe it's all an attempt to shift the heat on a much weirder group.

By no means is it admirable nor do I condone it, but I can at least see the reasoning.

"Furries are pricks."
Fixed your title.

I think Hippoclits probably works better.

XD
if not as work safe

Word. :P

I've learn d just to ignore it all.

Just let things be, if someone thinks that there the reincarnation of balto, so be it.

If they think there descended from luke skywalker, and darth vader probes them at night, Who am i to say "OMG what the fuck?!"

But in the end, were all humans no matter what we say, and its human nature (and in some cases animal) to hate the different, or in the Internets case, troll the hell out of them.

So just ignore them, and dont feed the trolls, best thing anyone can do.

Well I laugh at everyone taking their weirdness into a level of ridiculousness. That does not only include thos Navi-guys or furries, but also religious people, for instance. And although I find it incredibly funny and get one or the other chuckle out of it, I don't care about what they do as long as it's following the laws and doesn't harm anyone else.

But yea. Dicks are everywhere, and especially in the furry fandom.

it's pathetic to think that anyone on this site can even judge. X3 no offense to us, but... REALLY. is it any fucking different, AT ALL...? I'll go make myself a navi-sona just to spite them.

MMM...Spaghetti monster....tasty

Seriously tho...the world would be a much groovier place if everyone could just follow 2 simple rules.
Rule1:Be excellent to each other.
Rule2:PARTY ON DUDES!

*air guitar*

*joins you in the air guitar*
Now i gotta watch Bill and Ted again
I think this will be my 106th time watching it

Grrrr, you tell 'em, Kaa.

I believe one difference is that the majority of furs don't believe they are "otherkin" to animals or mythological creatures at all, merely humans that enjoy to pretend sometimes. Even with that in mind, furs that DO believe they are otherkin to animals are relating to creatures that exist or were believed to exist, and not typically to creatures that were invented for the sake of the movie business.

Poking fun at someone isn't being a hypocrite, shit furries poke fun at each other ALL THE TIME for "weird fetishes" or the behaviors of other furs. It's no different than making fun of anything really. The line is drawn where poking fun goes beyond a joke and turns into an actual belief. For example, making racist jokes is one thing, believing races other than your own are inferior is another.

Ridicule whatever you want, I personally think it's hilarious to ridicule. It's messed up when you act upon the ridicule and take it beyond the joke.

See my response to  danjen below.

And my point was it doesn't matter who makes fun of who, the entire populace of the world is a hypocrite by that definition. What makes a hypocrite isn't making fun of someone when you yourself complain about being made fun of, what makes you a hypocrite is when you BELIEVE they are a lesser being based on their views when you yourself complain that others see you as a lesser being based on your views.

Otherkin to the Na'vi believe they've always been a Na'vi. You can't seriously have a straight face when you consider they believe they've always been the form of something that just came out. Honestly, if they're pretending to be something that's currently popular, they clearly have some self-esteem issues.

You missed the point by a mile. I honestly don't care what any "otherkin" people may believe. What I said was that furries should cry and complaint about being made fun of by other people, when they themselves do the same to others.

People with glass ceilings not throwing rocks, and all that.

I meant *shouldn't*.

You only have a point if you assume that there's never a legitimate reason to make fun of someone.

I believe in the "Treat others like you would like to be treated" philosophy. If people don't give others respect, they should not expect it in return.

Unlike religious people, furries are just pretending and wishing for something different, but they aren't believing because they know it is a fantasy. But otherkin, to me at least, seem to have an even worse delusion than a religious person. At least people of faith were indoctrinated and programed to accept their beliefs as given fact. Otherkin don't have that excuse and, frankly, I think they have some sort of psychiatric pathology. Believing you are something imaginary can't be a sign of good mental health.

But people with mental health issues have been made fun of, so this doesn't really surprise me. Of course, that doesn't make it right, either. My real concern is that we don't start treating people with an obvious problem like they are normal. People like otherkin need to accept the fact that what they feel or believe isn't normal and should be evaluated to see if their delusions could be part of a larger pathology or if they are a danger to themselves or others.

Probably about half of the otherkin I've met online have seemed otherwise normal and realtivly harmless, claiming that their feelings of being a different creature on the inside is simply just a feeling they can't explain and just leave it at that. While the other half acted batshit balls-to-the-walls insane. It is the latter half that bothers me the most.

I never weep over perceived "fursecution", as I have never encountered any offline. Personally, I laugh at all this drama. Very entertaining, but don't pull me into that crap.

As for furries in general, like the rest of mankind, they have double standards. Some people just don't know how to practice what they preach (see the South Park episode "Tolerance Death Camp" as an example).

Actually, it's shit like this that's inspired me to consider writing an addition to my collection under construction parodying internet drama called "The Fetish Wars".

.. stuff like this makes me like the fandom less and less each day .. this isnt the only issue that ive seen with the fandom that really makes me sorry to be called "furry" on occasion

Eh, I'm one of those that just doesn't like furries in general because of the bullshit they do like that which you have spoken of in this journal. I have my own beliefs of course and I don't need someone else to validate them. I'm just sick of the fucking drama that the bulk of the furry community causes and cries about it when someone doesn't like em. They are indeed hypocrites with few exceptional examples that are decent people. I really wish most of them would just.. go away and never be heard from again but meh...can't always get our way I suppose. It's sad to see that also the main lesson in Avatar of respecting the differences of others.. was not seen. Ah well. Most furries are dicks... I've lost plenty of mates to selfish fucks that know how to smooth talk.. i'm just here for the art. Anyway, refreshing to see your words and not more of that *rolls eyes* FC was so so so so great zomg!

This journal made me lulz hard but I completely agree

Speciesism.

Kaa speaks the truth once again.

Certainly has a sound head on his neck, that one.

Agreed

Yeah I really don't understand why they go and have to start crap and be stupid like that one some things.

"furry gallery" starts with F and ends with Y...

Okay, "furry website", then.

Ahahaha. Either way, you're right. Snarkers' usual excuse is that they "are a part of the fandom but don't really like to associate with the nasty dirty furries." And yet...

I think the saddest portion of this information was that the ring leader is the fuckimg owner of said sight that houses a lot of said people. I had minimal respect for them before. That's now 0.

What the hell happened to the fandom. It was not the shit storm of drama it is now years ago...

"and I hate any "furrified" words" ---> "Furpocrytes"

gaaaah! no! the double point and shoot of cleverness! why!? T..T;;

You know what the worst part is? Everything contained in this journal should be common knowledge. Guess its not so common anymore.

I agree, it should be common knowledge, but that goes right out the window when you point to the "internet tough-guys". Hell, I've run across some strange shit on here, in the two years I've had an account. However, I take the "live and let live" approach, offer my two cents of critique, and go about my business. I treat people how I would like to be treated, whether it be IRL or online. I wish more people would follow that philosophy.

Very true, and I agree with you wholeheartedly.

You have to keep in mind that not all members of the fandom have triple-digit IQs.

Or the majority for that matter xD

Kinda reminds me of that raging cubporn discussion... people will always want to find away to point fingers on certain groups and feel "better" than others, why do religions for instance make the life after death such a big topic? Since we all die and theyre not happy with it, they need some justification that only "good" people will go into heaven and all that crap.

With cub art, it was one fetish that was suddenly bashed and being declared "wrong" while lactating titfucking scat-tossing soul-voring dragonherms were still a-okay.
And now with the Na'Vi...well it's basically "been there done that" There are always people "inspired" by recent releases, that they discover they were exactly that all along (just ask all the twilight fans out there who just happened to realise they were wolves as soon as new moon hit the theaters)

But the thing is, that some people just go waaaay beyond the call of duty. I mean choosing a Na'Vi as character wouldnt be so much of a deal, but that they feel suddenly emotionally attached and think that through a fictional race, which basically portrayed the american indian tribes, their true soul is revealed...well that leaves a lot of room to be made fun of.

So thats the current development. But dont go as far as calling furries hypocrites because of that...I mean a lot of them already are. With that whole "animals are better than people" BS and stuff. Really, I've seen so many people writing "I dont like intolerance" in their profiles, yet they have problems with talking to "normal people", it's not even funny.

Bottom line: Even though we pretend to be someone else, under all that fur/scales/skin/whatever were still old rotting human meat, and thats not gonna change. Just wait for the next big movie hit the theaters and you'll see Na'Vi pointing fingers too.

No, the Na'Vi will be dead because they let the humans go home. ^_^

are you seriously trying to justify that cub porn isn't at the very least a decidedly grey area from an ethical standpoint? I mean, okay or not okay, I can see both sides of the argument, but to dismiss it out of hand indicates a significant lack of thought on your part.

You missed my point. I just said that it is more than hypocritical to bash cubporn, but to justify other extreme fetishes as being okay. In my opinion, things like gore fetishes and the likes, should be frowned upon at least the same. I am also on the fence about vore - devouring someone is at least as controversial as cub porn if you ask me.
It is not okay to be on the fence about one fetish that doesnt suit your interests, but to defend another one, which is on the same level of controversy, that's all I'm saying.

Cub porn is just a thin disguise for pedophilia.

And I mean, other stuff is ok. Because it's usually adults doing that stuff to other adults. But kids have more important things to worry about than having sex. Like you know, being kids.

Course I'm not saying I'm in to any "extreme" stuff because I'm not. And who knows, maybe some cubby porn furs aren't actually pedophiles irl. But for me it's just waaay too close to pedophilia.

Vore porn is a thin disguise for cannibals.
Gore porn is a thin disguise for murderers.
Rape porn is a thin disguise for rapists.

get my drift? Just because you say "but its about kids!" doesnt make it anymore right. And its not about kids, its about anthromorphised animal cubs.
Most people that are into it are attracted by the "cuteness" of animal cubs, not the desire of having sex with an actual minor. Rape scenarios can be borderline of course, but that isnt limited on cubs, any rape scenario is questionable - as are all others of the "extreme" fetishes.

Gore porn would be equal to sadism. :P

Anyways, I don't like those types of porn either. It all makes me go wtf..

Anyways, wasn't the original topic of discussion something about a few people thinking they're otherkin to the Na'vi?

I think people have a right to believe what they want. But that doesn't mean there won't be consequences. Pedophiles, rapists, and I'm pretty sure sadists have jail time. Otherkin get called crazy. But it's still their choice.

You can run, but you can't hide.

Furries are still people, and some people are assholes.

Sadly you should be expecting this in all corners of the world.

I'm of the mind where I keep my preferences to myself and don't let what I believe in or like to imagine.

.......................

Otherkin to the Na'vi.

:|

I hate most "furries" ITS JUST A FANTASY FANDOM PEOPLE! HAVE FUN WITH IT, Don't make it a damn lifestyle out of it. They need to grow the fuck up.

This.

Furry is a hobby, nothing more nothing less. These so-called "lifestylers" can suck it.

XD so true....i love that movie but changing your fursona every time some new cgi shit comes out in 3D or what ever...that just shows you'll never be comfy in any skin.
this is like where 101dalmations came out in live action and EVERYONE got a dalmatian then turned around and put it in the pound cuz they are necrotic dogs that have a biting problem when not raised right, also they dont do that well with kids X3
'everyone' has to be sooooo into what ever is "cool" at the moment but as the saying goes "monkey see, monkey do"
*mini rant with in a rant XD*

*People are hypocrites

Fixed.

I pretty much agree with this one. It's not just furries, people just suck in general.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH......duh.

Furpocrytes sounds like a mutant kind of hippogryph.

Sigh. That's all there really is to say. >_o

Everyone is a hypocrite.

You will find goons in every group of people, no matter how small it is.

Im gonna step out of the shadows of all the "big" name people here nodding and going yup yup and say one thing.

Yes I can agree its very hypocritical in many ways, especially for the reasons you mentioned.

But as for 2's 2-cents on the subject thats coming from a somewhat bitter-ing area for him, and I have been and seen that same kinda crap myself from the Kin community, so naturally its gonna be a broad side of a barn to throw a comment or two at. Especially when it's not really the fact they are claiming to be someone else's fantasy creation (we see that DAILY in the fandom) but more so the fact that an entire "spiritual" group just blossomed outta James Cameron's now vastly growing drooling fan base.

Its the fact that something that has just been created, a race that was just created in the mind of a producer literally turned into the next love-to-mock spirituality/ religion, remember when the whole Scientology thing came full circle? that was a freaking carpet bomb lawl-fest.

I think if furs were running around saying they were Na'vi most would go "well that's kinda dumb ripping off someones creation but eh..." but to claim to always be something spiritually your whole life when in reality it only existed since oh how many weeks now? thats what all the drama and mockery is coming from.

It would have been the exact same way I guarantee if there were Prawn-kin or Combine-kin or transformer-kin

There needs to be a church of Prawn-Kin now.

"Praise the holy cat food, for its divine flavor shall linger always in your hearts and souls. May random bits of clothing adorn you always, and let be the trash mountains to raise high around your homes, their sustenance plentiful and everlasting."

Does anyone else think they're the damn cutest things covered in garbage and chitin to ever walk the Earth?

hehe I gotta admit that I did find some of them kinda cute looking XD at least the cleaner looking ones

I wanted to cuddle them while scrubbing them down with bleach and a scouring pad.

haha XD

Give em a good shell wax!

wow.... all I can say.

It's just like in South Park when the kids are all playing Lord of the Rings and returning the video to the video store.

And they see some kids with fake glasses and brooms who say, "Hey, we're playing Harry Potter!"

And they say, "Fags!"

cuz u no all furriez are otherkins lol


but seriously
I find the na'vi otherkin people just as silly
as the actual animal otherkin

but I don't pick on them
I see no reason to.
I have other people to poke at

Goodness you have been PMS'ing a lot lately!

Chalk it up to not having a Grell to fuck my brains out until I am senseless.

My next comment was going to be that you need to get laid, but you have beaten me to that punch!!

My dear scaley friend. . . what you have noticed is the 'bully act', an act that has been around since human children were in grade school and possibly earlier in life. Children scorn and ridicule those around them to make themselves feel better, and is actually a natural preditory act in the wild. Dogs think they are better than cats because they are bigger, and cats think they are better than dogs because they can climb trees and walk mor quietly. The point I'm trying to make is: It's going to happen every where you see it. The bully act continues in every 'in-group' and every age group and always will. Just hang in there and rant to me when you need it. ;3

I just learn not to care. And if someone complains about these things I just go ahead and ask em. "Why do they even care? If they aren't doing anything wrong they should just live proudly in the open."

I actually do believe some people are reincarnated otherkins, that's a part of my faith though. I'm sorry, but the Na'Vi are made up....period. I know they're like the deep fantasy of a lot of furries but that doesn't make them real. However, if they want to believe that then leave them alone. I personally laugh at the insults thrown at furs, I find a lot of them funny.

A lot of people are like that, sadly. I've seen it on an otherkin forum too. Basically, I see it the way you do: whatever works for the individual, as long as they're not hurting anyone. But there are a lot of people out there who just won't leave well enough alone. *sighs*

Pfft, just because I jerk off to furry porn doesn't mean I can't take a step back and make fun of anyone for their silly beliefs.

Fuck otherkin

Fuck Na'vi

Fuck furries

Fuck the internet

Fuck me

My place or your place?

While I don't make fun of them, I tend to bristle at it. To me, I haven't really been able to take "mediakin" and "otakukin" all too seriously.

Being a therian, and knowing loads of otherkin, I'm pretty damn excepting on it. Na'vi are (I think someone said it?) basically Native Americans and had the same ordeal. It's beautiful for that to be portrayed as a balance of human and feline, it's something furries generally would like. I haven't seen avatar yet, but *shrug*

Anyway, I just don't like media-influences. Sure. Taking into consideration it might sound like a past memory~ There's got to be something similar... but people also have to realize they have to be general. Saying "Na'vi" in specific is just as bad as saying your soul is a cabbit or Ryo-oh-ki from Tenchi Muyo.

Now saying you feel like a tribal alien race, that just happened to have tails? Sure. I can believe that, take that into heart, and ask questions with honest curiosity, intrigue and a smile. Saying Na'vi is just as bad as saying your skin sparkles in the sunlight. :\

All and all, if one of my friends I knew around here came out on that to me, I'd still love them just the same, and just help them to find the truth, who knows, it might just be that and then we both know 100%

Oh and Kaa?

Lizardmen or any Reptile-people movie... that would be so hot <3

Btw... did you go to FC?

If you did, *snaps finger* I totally didn't run into you to give you a HUGE ass hug.

No, I stayed home. I could not afford to go.

Its the same with the internal "cliques" in the furry fandom. Look at how quick a lot of furs are to throw babyfurs out of 30th story windows and claim that they're some sort of mutant concoction that just happens to follow the rest of us around for some "unexplainable reason".

Yes, the Na'vi people just happened to find a template that fits their personal views, beliefs, and desires of fulfillment, a template made easy for them to find because it was made into the most wildly popular Hollywood blockbuster of all time.

Sure, choosing such a template and claiming that you were always said template is a silly thing to do. But look at how fucking "silly" this whole damn fandom is. We're all mix matching and criss crossing our own personalized "templates" to make us feel more whole. We all just want to find that "nitch" to fit into. Humans (And yes, we are HUMAN fucking BEINGS everyone!) are social animals and we have a deep deep desire to belong to something. Its at the very base of what we are. We want to belong to something and to have value, to be important and to be loved and accepted as part of a greater whole.

Yeah I'm a person who feels they're a dragon at heart. I know dragons are made up fantasy creatures. And I'm ok with that. And if someone out there wants to believe they're a 3 meter tall blue humanoid-feline alien with a synapses tentacle coming out of the back of their head, living on a moon orbiting a fictional gas giant orbiting our nearest neighbor stars, AT HEART.... Well, its their fucking heart to decide such a thing with.

I don't want to throw a huge comment here agreeing with you in every point and why. You know me Kaa, you know how I am. I totally agree with you in everything.

I just wonder who was the first artist you mentioned who motivated all this.

i've never liked the people who take this being a furry thing over the top. like, i don't understand people who actually believe that their...i dunno, some other being...me, i'm just satisfied being a human who likes furry/scaly/etc. art. nothing to change my life over, just a personal taste quirk

I share your hate for 'furrified' words. I mean, really, what's the plural of "furson"? "furple"?!

The biggest problem with the na'vi kin is that they're just unhappy people, projecting themselves onto an idealized fiction to try and escape their problems.
Why shouldn't they? if being a na'vi is anything like it was for jake sully in avatar (lol white guy has to show up to make the natives better at being natives) it's gonna be great! You're strong, sexually desireable, and have the respect of hundreds of people.

And thats the problem.

I dabbled in the otherkin community in highschool, i mean, hell we all feel lost and look for answers sometimes at that age. I considered that this might be why I was allways feeling off in society, maybe i literally wasn't like other people.
I spent a lot of time soulsearching, asking tough questions, trying to fit it all into the views of cosmology that I had understood at the time. And of course I logged back onto the forums to discuss my findings only to see people who'd joined after I did had racked up 1000+ posts and were dispensing 'sage advice' as if they'd been there forever, whilst I was mired in books and questions. This big of cognitive dissonance made me stop and look at the forums, and what i saw was so many MANY unhappy people convinced that having a tail and paws would LITERALLY solve everything.
but what they wanted wasn't intrinsically tied to the pretty/strong/majestic animal they sought to be (when was the last time you met a jellyfish, star-nosed mole, or dung beetle otherkin?).

What they wanted was physical strength, friendships, to be sexually desired, and to command respect. These aren't the longings of a tortured animal soul trapped in a hairless hide, these are BASIC HUMAN DESIRES. But rather than set down and go get it, they'd become so wrapped up in this collective fantasy that they didn't realize what they wanted was there all along, they just had to go get it.

I left, I took martial arts classes, I went out and socialized, I spent time developing talents, and shit yeah I played some damn video games too, I'm not a saint here, there was loafing and dnd to be played! But i found when I had attained those things, I was happy. I didn't NEED to be an animal. Sure it's fun to explore and pretend on the internet some of the time, and there's nothing wrong with creating a character. But thats just It. Alphonse may represent parts of me, or desires of mine, but he and I are not the same.

These na'vi kin cannot see the jungle for the trees. It's not the being a cat part they really really want. But because they're unhappy, they chalk it all up to being human. Which is funny in a way as Avatar's moral 'lesson' (or hammer blow to the face if you can recognize bad writing) is about how to be a better human.

Honestly I'm a little offended. These kids want to diss being human because of their own personal problems. They want to dismiss being human without ever really having lived.

The vast richness of the human experience is right outside your door and costs nothing but time. Go to it. Seek the legacy you have inherited. Improve the world you are given. Don't cast it aside in favor of crying alone in front of a glowing rectangle for a world you don't have, can't have, won't have, and frankly, don't yet deserve.

OMG FINALLY!

(have never seen anyone else make such a level headed criticism on this subject before)

A very thorough analysis I have to admit... I salute you, sir

It's sometimes interesting to see how people act and what they try to achieve or be...

As for me? Well, I am mostly being me, I made my char mostly like me because that's the best way to identify myself *g*

To believe all problems would be solved if one had cat ears or a tail... well, that's just... I guess stupid would be the right word.

Physicall appearance doesn't change anything it's just... phsyicall appearance. Everything else is on a more personal level.

Sure, I like to pretend to be a walking, talking lizard on the internet... Because that's what I'd like to be. I think that would be a really cool thing.

In reality however I am a human and while I still think it would be cool to be a walking talking lizard in reality, I cannot say that my life is unhappy.

I have good friends and a loving family, two very important things.

So, I am satisfied with my life and my life as a human.

However, in fiction I want to be something else. I'm a human in reality already so I prefer to be something non-human whenever I delve into fiction. Which is why I pretend to be a walking talking lizard on the internet. The internet is the portal to the world of fantasy where I can be just that and even share it with others like minded people.

That allows fantasy great freedom, which i am grateful for. It certainly made my life a whole lot better because several of my highly valued friends I got to know trhough this particular community

I mean, I'm a furry too, I have many furry friends, do furry art, and go to furry cons, and typefuck on the internet as a furry character, so I'm not like someone trying to actively deny my love of this anthropomorphic fantasy, and I agree 100 percent that it's made my life a lot better.

As long as you make the distinction between fantasy and real life, Hell, I think it would be awesome to trot around as a furry critter. But I know that such a thing would not magically make my life better. I know that this is a fantasy, and you seem to as well. And as long as you have that distinction, you're fine.

I'm gonna get tangental here. just a warning:

(I'm excluding otherkin proper from this portion of the argument because as an agnostic I believe that animal re-incarnation may occur. However, i believe that if it happens, you are incarnated as a human for a reason, and must learn what you can from being human, rather than pining for what may or may not have been your past incarnations)

But when people convince themselves, and walk around insisting that they REALLY ARE their character/na'vi/fictionkin what have you, you kinda lose that line, that sense of self. It's honestly really depressing to me to hear people saying "I am/my soul is na'vi" or the digimon emperor or harry potter or sephiroth (yes, all ~200,000 of them). You've honestly got some real self-esteem issues you should be working on if you believe that your spirit is a re-hashing of the intellectual property of someone else. How can someone not have the backbone to call their soul their own?


But like I said earlier, it's fine to have fun, pretend, create an identity, a mask, a character to walk around in and explore what your mind can dream up! These kinds of experimental creative exercizes and stories and ideas are what help to shape human culture (not explicitly all furry ones,but still). But never forget who you are, the gifts you have inherited, the ideas and capabilities that being human entails. To be human, for all the failings that come with it, is an honor, and a gift to be treasured.

Bravo! *claps*

I reached similar conclusions about my own desire to be a furry, and am also working to improve my real-life self. But I never put it into such elegant terms.

I AM OFFENDED ALREADY. :C

I agree with you in full.

Given that I haven't really travelled across the atlantic ocean to visit a US furry con, I can't say that I know much of the things happening there but...

Seriously?

Furries bashing others for the Na'vi thingy that started ever since Avatar came out?

Sheesh...

I second you on the hypocrite note. If you yourself are target of ridicule for plenty of reasons (hyper herms, stomping macros, etc) you should at least have the decency and be more understanding about others.

Well, guess that's wrong.

It's like a good friend of mine.

People, including furries, just like to whine, bitch, ridicule, bash and complain about another.

Then again...

Haven't we all had a moment or more where we did just exactly the same, just with a different topic?

I guess that's just how we are.

Still, I agree with you that this doesn't exactly add to a good image of the fandom *sighs*

Furries aren't exactly a unified group. Not all of us are "otherkin" or complain about "fursecution". Those of us that meet these requirements are 100% permitted to wail on Na'vikin

Remember folks:
It's the internet. Don't take it seriously. Seriously.

Teasing is often the way that assholes show they care enough to tell you you're making a horrible mistake.

It's not allways right, it's rarely kind, but it has a purpose.

Avatar fans should get a life, just because they weight as much as a Na'vi it doesn't make them one =3

Its Ferngully... in space. Hehe.

But yah, bullying is a common thing. We try to teach it out of these snot nosed bastards, but they do it anyways. I do have to admit, it does bring a little giggle to my face. I mean, i can completely understand otherkin as a whole. Spirit of the animal, reincarnation, and hell, i even had sympathy for the scientology folk for the same regard.

But honestly... specifically Navi? It couldnt be another race of nature symbiotic creatures? An ancient form of animal on our or another planet that has direct ties to nature? Some gaia like theory from final fantasy?

I perfectly understand not poking fun at someone because they believe something i find odd. But.... what you see going on is trolling. The majority of this hoop la isnt even coming from true otherkin navis. Most of this BS is people posting fake journals, linking to some pic they found, or otherwise being an ass and posting journals stating their opinion on the matter. Its nothing but hype. Its the new and popular thing, and the new and popular thing always seems to need to be made fun of.

To be honest, ive yet to read a journal, article, or submission posted by someone who actually is a navi otherkin. That doesnt stop to flood of journals, articles, and submissions about Navis though due to this hype.

Like me, I just found out that I was a target on facepunch.com and people were making fun of me and Greendolphin was in the group too. I was pissed off at first for 5 mins because a person says that "It's disturbing". Another one said "Is costume is ugly as shit,it's an inSult". Now, I'm like, I'm very famous. When you see people make fun of you, just think of it in another way, you're more popular than they are because they are talking about you more than before.

Most people who bully are miserable with their life. I don't care what they say about my costume or me, but I feel better that I'm actually getting somewhere. You might get picked on because you're a furry, but don't let them stop you because of that. It's like movie stars are. You some haters or some people who like that person. The people who hate the movie stars are the ones that are jealous because they are rich and famous and they are not. Some people hate that person because of their religon, but it doesn't stop the person in believing their God.

So if someone makes fun of you, just ignore them and they will go away. That's the best suggestion. Eventually, you will be old news and find someone else to pick on.

and the near infinite photos of fursuiters because a few people feel like uploading *EVERY* frigging photo that they take

Hey now it's not *every* photo. It's more like 75% :P

*facepalm* Really people are already saying they are Na'vi otherkin? INCONCEIVABLE!!! Somebody help those poor confused souls. I've had my own experiences with people that are therians and I have personally found them to be the most messed up and confused people I know. That is partially why I am no longer friends with them. I have to agree with Al that what they want aren't purely animalistic desires and they are wrapped up in their fantasy world. IF (and that's a very big if) they really were an animal in their past life, they are a human now and should learn to be happy with what they've got now.

And you're exactly the person Kaa is complaining about.

Man, if people "broke up" with me because I'm a therian, fucking christ, what kind of friend are they?

Thank you for having the courage to say it out loud. ^'===='^

I sometimes make fun of otherkins, but that's because some of my online friend really made me worry when he wanted to suicide himself and reveal his "true" self. XE I had to call his local police. Grrr. Yes, he's an otherkin.

Just a quick note...Furries are made fun of sometimes because some truly start to believe that they are actually anthro animals in real life or have some realistic connections to anthro animals.

I have nothing against any strange beliefs (as I'm myself am a lizard furry) or roleplaying.

But, any overly obsessive fandom will get made fun of and maybe it is ironic for furries to make fun of the Na'vi fandoms but if a furry (who acts like a complete normal person outside of his fandom) makes fun of a Na'vi fan who goes out on the street and "proclaims that they are the chosen one to be a part of the Na'vi, then I dont really have any sympathies for the Na'vi (and this works vise versa as well).

Otaku weeaboos are also made fun of be cause I know a few that tries so hard to act japanese when they aren't. People making fun of furries aren't necessarily due to furry fandom itself but generally every obsessive fandom is made fun of regardless of it's topic.

If someone is a Na'vi furry...sure...fine. If someone truly starts to believe very hard that Avatar is a non-fiction movie and they themselves have a spiritual link to the Na'vi...well...have fun getting slammed in the locker.

(PS: Maybe when I make a movie, I should completely rip off Dances With Wolves and set it in Myst as well. Maybe then, I'll win a golden globe and get a huge obsessive star wars level fanbase)

Any group will attack any other group for being different from their group. It is the nature of man to attack anyone who they do not understand and who is not "safe" and by "safe" I mean someone they can predict in every way and who will not do anything to upset their world view.

That said, keep in mind that in every group there are Fanatics/Fringe, Moderates, and Weakly Associated people. The moderates of the group tend to represent its ideals the best but the Fanatic Fringe is usually the loudest and the one most talked about. Do not judge us as a whole based on what a few do and that goes for every group of people.

I for one have nothing against Avatar or anyone who likes the race they created. They seem interesting and at least have a nice look and a beautiful color. If they want to consider themselves to be furries while they are at it then I am fine with that too. They look like cat anthros to me even if a bit odd but they are an alien race so it is understandable they will not look exactly like a Terran animal.

The ones who get me are those who want to lump elves and such which are blatantly NOT furry in with us. I also do not have much love for Anime animal girls where they are just humans with ears and tail. Yeah they are cute and all but many of them are very barely furry if furry at all. So while I do not really have any angst against them I do take a very tiny bit of offense when they claim they are as deep into the furry fandom or ideals as the real full anthros.

...FYIAD