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15 years ago
Dick...
Hello there !
If you don't want to read the whole journal, go straight at the end, I wrote a short summary.
But for those who ever though about asking me for a commission, please read this.
About genders
Males, females, herms, any transgender (shemale, cuntboy, etc) are okay.
About species :
All (Excepted humans, of course, there's already a lot of animated and realistic human porn on the internets! )
Anthro or non-anthro is fine. (Even taurs should work.)
How about Copyrighted characters ?
No problems!
About fetishes (based on the FA list)
Yes :
- General
- Hyper ( depends on the size )
- Bondage
- micro/macro/growth
- watersports (I don't really like that either, but it's also technically possible)
- vore ( oral )
- Anything else not listed : ask if you want to know.
Maybe / not sure :
fat (if not REALLY fat)
inflation (technically possible, I don't really like this but it's acceptable)
Vore ( Anything else than oral vore )
Nope :
Diapers / Cub
Transformation ( I don't have the skills for this, Gender transformation might work, though)
scat (technically possible, but... no.)
About prices / generality
Payment :
Paypal only.
- Animations
Output files :
- .swf file ( interactive )
- .webm file ( video )
The commissioner gets the high quality version of both for free, of course.
I give myself the right to sell the HQ versions of the finished comissions on Patreon and/or DVD's. It's not negotiable, please do not commission me if you disagree with this.
Prices :
The price mostly depends on :
- How many characters
- complexity of characters
- length / complexity of the animation
New : I will add sound to the animation for free, but only if the client wants.
Price Examples :
- Solo animation
At least 350 € for something simple with a normal character, most likely around 400+ € if it's more complex
Example : http://www.furaffinity.net/view/18153303/
- Two characters animation
At least 500€ for something simple, most likely 700+ € or more if it's more complex
Examples :
Long animation : http://www.furaffinity.net/view/17178434/
shorter animation : http://www.furaffinity.net/view/19017001/
- Three characters
over 700€
- More than 3 characters
Ask.
If you want something with an exisiting model?
It will be a bit cheaper, I usually offer a 50€ discount.
Misc
- All prices are in EUR (€) , not USD ($) or GBP (£) or anything else.
- Even if I accept your commission, you don't need to pay until I actually start to work on it.
Time needed :
It usually take few months.
rules and advice
I have some rules which are obvious for me, but I prefer to write them :
- I don't show animation WIP. So when you make a description, be really accurate. (Each detail is important)
- I can show model WIP if you want.
Summary :
- If you think that my work is not worth paying, if you want something cheap, quickly and if rules (Just above) are not convenient for you, please don't ask. Thank you.
- If you send me a note about commission, you have to certify that you read the whole journal, Otherwise I won't reply.
Otherwise, if you read this, and you're really intersted after that, it will be a pleasure to discuss about it!
That's it :D
If there some information missing, just ask here and I will edit the journal to add additional information, thank you.
If you don't want to read the whole journal, go straight at the end, I wrote a short summary.
But for those who ever though about asking me for a commission, please read this.
About genders
Males, females, herms, any transgender (shemale, cuntboy, etc) are okay.
About species :
All (Excepted humans, of course, there's already a lot of animated and realistic human porn on the internets! )
Anthro or non-anthro is fine. (Even taurs should work.)
How about Copyrighted characters ?
No problems!
About fetishes (based on the FA list)
Yes :
- General
- Hyper ( depends on the size )
- Bondage
- micro/macro/growth
- watersports (I don't really like that either, but it's also technically possible)
- vore ( oral )
- Anything else not listed : ask if you want to know.
Maybe / not sure :
fat (if not REALLY fat)
inflation (technically possible, I don't really like this but it's acceptable)
Vore ( Anything else than oral vore )
Nope :
Diapers / Cub
Transformation ( I don't have the skills for this, Gender transformation might work, though)
scat (technically possible, but... no.)
About prices / generality
Payment :
Paypal only.
- Animations
Output files :
- .swf file ( interactive )
- .webm file ( video )
The commissioner gets the high quality version of both for free, of course.
I give myself the right to sell the HQ versions of the finished comissions on Patreon and/or DVD's. It's not negotiable, please do not commission me if you disagree with this.
Prices :
The price mostly depends on :
- How many characters
- complexity of characters
- length / complexity of the animation
New : I will add sound to the animation for free, but only if the client wants.
Price Examples :
- Solo animation
At least 350 € for something simple with a normal character, most likely around 400+ € if it's more complex
Example : http://www.furaffinity.net/view/18153303/
- Two characters animation
At least 500€ for something simple, most likely 700+ € or more if it's more complex
Examples :
Long animation : http://www.furaffinity.net/view/17178434/
shorter animation : http://www.furaffinity.net/view/19017001/
- Three characters
over 700€
- More than 3 characters
Ask.
If you want something with an exisiting model?
It will be a bit cheaper, I usually offer a 50€ discount.
Misc
- All prices are in EUR (€) , not USD ($) or GBP (£) or anything else.
- Even if I accept your commission, you don't need to pay until I actually start to work on it.
Time needed :
It usually take few months.
rules and advice
I have some rules which are obvious for me, but I prefer to write them :
- I don't show animation WIP. So when you make a description, be really accurate. (Each detail is important)
- I can show model WIP if you want.
Summary :
- If you think that my work is not worth paying, if you want something cheap, quickly and if rules (Just above) are not convenient for you, please don't ask. Thank you.
- If you send me a note about commission, you have to certify that you read the whole journal, Otherwise I won't reply.
Otherwise, if you read this, and you're really intersted after that, it will be a pleasure to discuss about it!
That's it :D
If there some information missing, just ask here and I will edit the journal to add additional information, thank you.
If you do want to ensure people read this journal before they bother you with a commission request, you could add a line in this journal like "Please put X12345 in the note title" so you know right off the bat who read this journal and who didn't when they message you.
In any case, I do really appreciate you sharing your work here. And thanks for taking commissions too! I really hope this doesn't cause you too much extra trouble. Good luck with everything! ^^
Anyway, I said that I won't reply to notes / emails / whatever if I'm not sure that this journal was read.
And thanks, i'm glad you like my work :)
also, over $9000 for a 4+ character pic made me lol XD
awwwws you dont do baby furs at all , not even if it was two playing ddr XD
your prices are def worth it, your awsome ^w^
(No problems for the DDR, though)
Just wanted your take on that.
Babyfurs / diapers
That's right out of the journal. No babyfurs or diapers. you'd already have his 'take on that' if you had read the journal.
I could go on a big rant like you, but simply put: shut up.
I'm not asking anyone to fight for me...though I giggle that this is STILL rubbing some fur the wrong way after a YEAR...
I don't like babyfurs, but I don't hate it either, btw.
Furries sometimes XD
Ça m’intéresserait, d’avoir un Diti en 3D.
Par modèles utilisable, oui, je fournis le fichier source à la personne qui l'a demandé, riggé ou non (tout dépend du logiciel utilisé).
Si tu veux l'utiliser pour tes propres créations, ce sera un peu plus cher que si c'est pour une utilisation privée. C'est juste que j'ai pas envie de voir des copies de mes models utilisés partout (un peu comme le model de krystal, par exemple).
voilà.
Et est-ce que t’accepterais une commission sous ces termes-là, et le jour où j’aurai besoin de plus (genre quand je saurai modéliser dans 3 ans :D), je te demande un genre de licence d’utilisation (je paye le reste quoi) ?
Et sinon, ça veut dire quoi riggé ? :P
Sinon, oui ça peut se faire, je l'ai déjà fait quelques fois. Pour la "licence d'utilisation", ce sera pas beaucoup plus cher non plus, c'est juste pour le principe !
"Riggé" ça veut dire que le personnage est prêt à être animé / changé de pose et qu'un squelette lui est appliqué. Voilà !
Anyways, I just cant wait to see more from you :) I love your animations and models n,n
Anyway, i'm glad you like my work :)
Yes, lmao.
And your prices are really, really worth the result. As for the 90% that don't even answer: I wonder what they think why CGI movies cost hundreds of millions of dollars to make...
Keep up the good work.
A simple "Oh wow, that's too much. Sorry," or asking to reducing the number of characters or scenes.
I think your prices are very reasonable for a full 3D modeling and animation. Having done some basic 3D modeling in college I know how time consuming it can be just creating the models. There's also the time spent rendering them. Days, sometimes weeks to just finish that.
It's great if you have done some 3d, you can understand how it's difficult and long...
by the way, I've really started to work on your animation !
It won't be finished soon for sure, but I'm still working on it :)
i think your prices are cheap for that sort of thing
And I was talking about the time needed to me to start to work on something, not the time needed to finish something.
If you want to know, I'm working on your animation at the moment, and also something for
i would like to get something in future....pls
Just my suggestions though. I don't think you overcharge personally.
Anyway, whoever thinks that it's overpriced won't post on here (Except if it's a troll, of course).
Your message reminds me that I forgot to specify how it's possible to pay.
Usually, I ask the full payment at the beginning, but I also accept if the commissioner want to pay in several parts.
As you said, half upfront and half right before the work finished is a good idea, but I have to rely on the commissioner...
I had no problems with that yet.
Well, I'll add a part in this journal about the payment as soon as possible. Thanks again !
I try my best not to be a pest to artist that work for me, and I really want this piece rendered.
that's.. 16$ a day.
I think people forget that it's a time consuming process, like- making anything resembling art- especially what you do-
like, they're used to static stuff, so they're spoiled by those prices, right, and then they get to 3D modeling- and, it's like, a step up from static 2d art, so they go into it going "well, this is furry, everyone is ridiculously low priced" and completely forget to take into account that-
as a 3dmodeler/animator- you -ARE ridiculously low priced. :/
anyway, here's hoping that more people learn to read :3
As you said, I hope that people will read that before instead of asking me directly.
On the other hand, the furry culture seems to expect museum-quality art for the price of an inkjet printer, so I can see where you may get some hassle and grief.
I think Basque` had a good idea too. List something in the journal to put in the subject line of the note so you know they're aware, and pretty much delete it right away otherwise.
Most people, however, don't actually know how much work is required. The don't know the modeling time, render time, whatever, so when you say "that would probably be a $300+ job" their reaction is "whoa, I don't have nearly that kindof money! I guess I'm out then." Though really I've thought it would be more polite for them to say they can't afford it rather than leave you hanging.
A journal like this though should hopefully give folks a more realistic guideline before they get into pricing specifics and maybe reduce the number of queries for people who don't want to shell out that much.
I'll get much fewer messages, but at least i'll be sure that people will be really interested... I hope.
Reason I haven't replied back because I currently waiting for a moment where I can put together enough funds to possibly get one from ya.
I went to school for 3D animation so I am fully aware of how hard it is and how much time it can take you to make some of the animations that you do.
I think are a quite good and I love what you produce. I also find your pricing fair for what you get in return :)
Keep up the good work and hope to get one from you soon!
So, when you will be interested again, you can send me another to talk about it :)
T'as qu'à leur dire de pré-orderer ton prochain DVD (ou bien de télécharger l'autre s'ils sont dans la dèche complète)
Sacrés furries !
Le domaine furry est un des rares milieux où les artistes sont en contact direct avec le public, sans intermédiaires qui se sucrent au passage sur la vente des oeuvres. Si tu vas dans une galerie d'art, le moindre truc qui vaut 100 Euros chez les furries te reviendra 300 Euros. C'est normal parce que le galeriste ne bosse pas gratos. La promo, les expos, les cocktails de vernissage, son salaire et autres font partie des dépenses qu'il répercute sur les acheteurs.
Juste pour te faire un peu réfléchir, renseignes-toi sur les prix que les auteurs de mangas réclament pour les commissions qu'ils réalisent en convention. Tu verras à quel point le furry est bon marché en comparaison.
Après si t'as pas les moyens de te payer de trucs furries, garde-toi ta crise de ragnagna : tu t'es trompé de débat.
Au moins avec ce journal, les gens seront un minimum informés et arrêterons de poser des questions alors qu'en fait ils n'ont pas les moyens de payer... ou pas.
I'll accept your rules and thoughtful price estimate willingly.
Think he read the journal? :P
bref desolé de ce petage de cable, mais pour dire, JE TE COMPRENDS A 100% XD
et des que j'ai un peu de revenu....je te commanderai surement un petit quelque chose :p
et les "Oh wow, seriously ?" après avoir donné un prix. Je suis pas un pro non plus, mais que ces gens là demande à un animateur professionel de leur faire une animation de quelques dizaines de secondes : ça risque de leur faire un choc!
I guess only the rich people can afford you.
living you in the sky ore of the earth ?
you might want to edit that 1€ = $1,28
It changes the whole time, if we go for current status the € isn't on it's best days currently. Or did the € went up again?
And like others mentioned, behind a 3D model is tons of work... each little poligon needs to be arranged and everything @_@ *shivers* Alone the thought to do that gives me creeps, so in my opinion the price is "Cheap" considering the work behind it~
And i guess that every other, who tryed themself on 3D models or 3D animations will be the same opinion like me.
Maybe next time.
But sadly, like most university students, I has no monniez.
Maybe in the near future, though... ;D
- I can show you the model of a new character before starting to work on the animation, and make modifications if there's serious problems, but only once.
Tbh, by the prices you're asking for (I understand how hard is to model and animate) you should at least be less of a dick. Just sayin.
Heh, my salary is near 600$ per month. :))) So, ok, it's just a comment, not mind.
I already have an idea.
2 character price is 400$. If u want a dragon with wings doing a fish like furr at air with some different positions, yeah it can worth that money. but everytime same models same positions.. i dont think its fair.. and we can see only feline like furs in videos which nearly same, isnt there anyone who want different kind of fur? i think u just dont accept it, becouse it will be totally new work...
and saying
- I don't show animation WIP. So when you make a description, be really accurate. (Each detail is important)
- I can show you the model of a new character before starting to work on the animation, and make modifications if there's serious problems, but only once.
after getting that prices, its not so good behaviour... u can send easily preview renders for costumers.. noone can explain a yiff scenario just with words.. even i make changes at art commisions i give, many times, i cant imagine an animation.
So.. an animation with same models with same positions DONT take months to make, it can be 2-3-4-8 char, no difference.. just maybe rendering problem for computer.. maybe 2-4 day max.. creating a new model, hell yeah it can be problem but modification of old model, nop...
There is 3-4 modeler and animators at this site so prices are depend on makers.. so its up to u..
Well...there goes my hopes of getting a commission from you.
But, anyways. Hope to see more from you, and pretty fair prices. Keep up the work dickbutt.
Just out of curiosity, how difficult would you say it might be to model the following characters?: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4399666/ http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3459871/ and http://www.furaffinity.net/view/2803415/ (though her hair colour has changed)...
Well anyhow, someday I will save enough money to get one of these commissions for sure.
faudrait vraimen que je commence a mettre de coter pour sa .
se serais surement 2 pokemon , donc faudrait les crée .
350Dollars ? tes prix on changer depuis ?
jimagine que se serais plus de 350 vue quil te faudra les crée non ? ou s'est comprit dans le prix ?
desolez de toute ses question , et desolez si dans le passer je ne repondais plus apres que tu mes repondut , s'est pas polie :/
se serais , deja c sur , mon pokesona , il est quadruped et a quelque detail , ensuite faut voir :3
- More than 3 characters
$ Over9000.
Seriously, I won't make anything with more than 3 characters. It's technically possible, but it's already hard with only 3 chars...
Does that mean over $9,000? Up to 9k? I was just wondering if its a typo. <3
I totally understand the pricing, a good 3D work studio will cost you alot of money. I'm a music producer on my off time and my music suite cost me 10K (yes $10,000.00 usd) and any upgrade synth packages cost up to $300 a pop.
not to mention (for you h0rs3) having to buy extra hard drives for digital copies, master files, commission logs, bases, saved textures, and such like. a one TB hard drive will cost around $98.00 usd
I have 4 one TB drives and 3 six TB drives just for the Flac files of my music.
(Flac's are studio masters and or the first recording, well above CD and HD quality.)
Some day when I get enough balls (hard to do when your a female husky) I might ask for one of me and my Mate Aark. sorry it would be a strat porn (love the m/m stuff thouh!!) but my girl Bandicoot is 100% female.
(even though she wonders what it would be like to have male parts, she would probably be "pawing off" all day)
I'll put you on my watch list. Keep up the fantastic work h0rs3.
Personally, I think Les Paul porn would be more appealing, but that's just me.
Whoo....hydrocodone....that stuff makes my head hate me. It works....but I dream the strangest shit.
Anyways, if ya feel like replying, just note me or shout. I don't wanna clutter it up anymore than it is from the baws over pricing.
sound good?
Do you add sounds?
I work alot with sounds myself.
If there would be one to provide sound effects and even additionally high quality dialogs?
What would your respons be to that?
This year. I need more moneys. hehe
Considering a little bit to commission here (mostly trying to make up my mind on what to commission, which is hard for me x3). Probably something solo, but I want to know what's ok and whatnot before I send a notice.
What do you mean by "llimbs and appendages" ?
About the workload, i'm currently working on 2 commissions.
And that animation shows about the level of hyperness I'm looking for. I understand that anything larger is hard to look good when animations is involved.
If I make up my mind, I be sure to send a note about what I want more exactly. :)
Still only payments through Paypal? Bank wire transfers is usually cheaper for me as soon it's over 100 USD (especially for payments within Europe), but it's fine either way for me. Just asking quickly since the journal is fairly old. :)
About the payments, yes paypal will be easier for me !
I agree, thats total rip off for low family classes that always wished for something good :L
Anyways, the amount that you charge for your commissions are relatively inexpensive for the nonhalf-assed quality of work. Hopefully sooner or later, when I my interest is high enough, I wouldn't mind an animation from you. Until then, I will watch away. :)
wtf XD
Will be a little while of saving yet before i get one from you, just waiting for the right time.
What a cruel twist of circumstances huh? lol I think I am the only person who likes to see a furry fuck a human lol!
Lates :T
so I said :
$150 ? I don't know where you read that. maybe 5 years ago!
If you don't know, the animation takes 95% time, the character making can be pretty fast, especially with canines, a simple retexturing is usually enough. It takes much more time for more original species, since I need more work on the model too.
If you don't know, the animation takes 95% time, the character making can be pretty fast, especially with canines, a simple retexturing is usually enough. It takes much more time for more original species, since I need more work on the model too.
1€ are 1,29'4 USD at the moment. ^^
I read your journal, and only can say one thing - People are to miserly.
Everyone wants the best and high-quality-mega-impressive-commission-thing - but who want to pay an appropriable price for it? - At least very few people... That's really sad.
Quality is always expensive, and if I look at the animations you create... I see fair prices.
So many have no appreciation for the work that is behind that animations.
I would love to spend "some money" for one of your animations. - But first - I need a better job. XD
Oh, and I didn't found an answer for my question:
Are you doing animated refs, too?
That means, that you get all needed informations, existing references, images, details, all that stuff...
I would commission one... but without money... -..-
I just wanted to chime in as another 3d artist and say to everyone here that your prices are really, really good for how much work goes into this kind of thing and the quality that you produce.
Here's some math for those of you who aren't familiar with how 3d animation is made:
-2005's "Hoodwinked" is a pretty low quality 3d animated film. It's budget was about $20 million (US dollars).
-Hoodwinked was 80 minutes long which means it cost $250,000 per minute and $4166 per second.
-Even if only 10% of that budget went to the actual modeling, rigging, animation, lighting and rendering that you see on screen (the other 90% going to writers, business people, sound, voice actors etc like it probably did for this movie), that'd be $416 per second for really bad quality 3d animation.
-Pixar and Dreamworks movies cost around 10x what Hoodwinked cost and a lot more than 10% of that is the actual 3d work.
So if you get 5 seconds of good modeling and animation for $400, it's a steal.
When people ask me if I do 3d commissions, I just say "no, it would take too long and cost way too much". I assume the eccentric millions will be more persistent!
Thanks for those relevant pieces of information!
I don't think my work is the same quality than most of animation films, but that gives a good idea.
Of course, I could do better than I'm currently doing, but it would imply spending much more time... and I think I already spend too much time regarding the prices I'm charging. The current prices are already too expensive for most furries (even if I understand that $400 or more is a lot), but it's a bit disappointing for me since I'm already working for less than the minimal wages in my country!
Thanks for the support, anyway
I didn't know it was possible to release such a movie nowadays!
Again, I love your work, it's absolutely amazing, and the animations with Nanaki have always been my fav xD He was my fav chari from FF7 (even though they completely excluded him from the Dirge of Cerebrus game, which erked me... but that on a complete side note >.>)
So yeah i can understand and i sure wanne commission you thats for sure X3 but I need to wait XP
anyway, this is like, waaay in the future, but would you do something like a 3D "reference sheet" flash? to clarify, have the video's purpose mostly be fore showing what the character looks like, rather than used specifically for fappage? I've never had an image to correctly represent what i look like, and having something 3D, and possibly interactive to show different angles and functions, would be really great and accurate.
(Sorry :P)
but hey, there's people who pay you to make that stuff and you deliver, so good job mate.
But fortunately, I'm not living off my commission, so that's not a big problem.
I could never get the hang of 3D modeling and animating...but I admire those who can work with it.
I want to get one sooo badly....
hope question for a debated idea isn't offputting at all dude ^^' (am actually saving for a couple ideas ^^)
Just wanted to say, big fan of your work. No doubt ALOT of time and effort go into each and every new animation you make. Thank you so much for sharing your talent with the community! As for your prices, I support them completely. Animations are tough, and time is something nobody has anymore. As an artist, you are fully within your rights to ask for payment when doing commisions. And....really....when the work has THIS level of quality, I say it is money well spent.
As a proud furry/scalie, I must say the idea of proposing a commision is tempting. I have the funds, but simply need to make up my mind (and commit myself to asking) for what I'd like to see.
Hopefully, I shall get back to you soon.
Keep up the awesome work!
First how long have you been modeling and when you create a scene what tools do you use? I thought at one time or another somewehre mentioned was Maya? If so how many polygons do you run per 1 character? Do you create a low poly and then back normals to a high poly? How large are the textures you use? I would thing 1024x1024 would be the normal?
Final question, How much would you charge if I asked you to do ONLY an animation? And I provided all the models. This includes characters and enviromental assets? The enviroment will be roughly 55,000 polys and the characters will be 4000 LP and 20,000HP. All you doing is the animation.
>First how long have you been modeling and when you create a scene what tools do you use?
I'm using maya for 8 Years, If I remember well
>If so how many polygons do you run per 1 character?
Not that much, I'd say around 50K triangles
>Do you create a low poly and then back normals to a high poly?
Low poly + smoothing
>How large are the textures you use? I would thing 1024x1024 would be the normal?
1024*1024 is usually enough for furry characters, and more for non-furry characters.
And about your last question, that depend on what do you want as animation, if I have to work on the rendering / fur effects / fluids / anything else, if the rigging and character setup is done or not... I'd need more details.
It is up to the modelers job to both rig and weight the characters so that would all be done. And you said Triangles? Odd usually I work with Quads unless I had to. This makes transfering to other engines allot easier.
Fluids and Fur would be mainly added in latter as apart of animation including lighting. Rendering is the final stage which isn't hard at all (just a setting really) and Maya should be equiped with Raytraceing (unless you use scanline)If you want to render it and then send in the final that is ok. Or just the animation and I can always take the file and render it myself too.
and if converterd to quads 50/2. 25,000 is still Highpoly. Now when you mean smooting do you mean Nurbs smooting?? Because if you do then you are probably not counting the polys right. XD Trust me on this. Add a modifier Any really, and you could easily hit over 100,000 And if you do use Nurbs XD that would be awesome that you keep the poly count that low.
Même si je travaillais ( je suis encore étudiant) je pourrais pas.
A part le temps, qu'est-ce qui influence tant ces prix. J'adore ton travail particulièrement les fluides et donc les éjacs.... mais ça doit alors être hyper difficile pour motiver ces prix ??
>Meme
>Blague
>Humour
>etc
Après si on a pas un minimum de culture d'Internet, c'est difficile de comprendre !
Allons, je suis gentil : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMHTK15Pik
--> Même 400$ ça trou le cul
--> c'est la crise... les français étant qui plus est avare de pognon (je stéréotype je vais m'en prendre plein la tronche ) et comme on voit de tout sur la toile ça paraissait vrais-semblable.
Pour finir je suis nouveau dans cette communauté je pige pas grand chose mais bizarrement ça ressemble vraiment au forum de JVC. pas le tant de comprendre d'où tu viens si t'as le malheur de pas pigers t'es mort .
bref je passe mon chemin....slt
(p.s. en relisant évidemment il y a le Seriously) mais ça m'est passé à côté ... dsl on a tous nos problèmes
>$400 ça troue le cul
C'est vrai que tout ce qui est graphisme devrait être payé moins que le salaire minimum, c'est pas un vrai travail après tout ! Il faudrait passer semaines à bosser sur un truc et ne demander que 10€ en échange, voir tout faire gratos, parce que bon, le furry porn c'est comme manger ou boire, c'est indispensable pour vivre, et même les pauvres devraient y avoir accès!
(Ironie, wink wink, je préfère préciser!)
Après moi je m'en fous, j'ai aussi un "Vrai travail".
Allez, Salut. Et au plaisir de passer pour un gros con avare cupide. :3
bref t'a l'air hyper sociale ..... autant que Greg. House ( très narcissique et sarcastique ; c'est ce qui s'en dégage en tt cas ; mais bon je suis pas sociologue )
P.S. étant pourtant fan de ton travail .......
C'est ça j'ai rien pigé à ta vanne over9000 je suis un gros bouffon et je pige rien merde faux qu'on m'explique comment je suis arrivé en dts imrt alors
but when I can...oh when I can *Dreamy eyes*
im not saying its a bad thing, i dont blame you and thats actually a very nice price, 200 bucks for a month of work is actually minimum wage
2. I think I took about an hour and a half to read EVERYONE's comments (yours included)...
3. I have two questions which NO ONE really bothered to ask you...
--3A. "Do you/can you add voice-overs to the characters and add sound effects within the environment/scenes in your animations?"
--3B. "If you don't, do you know of someone you could direct me to that in your network you have worked with or know of their work quality (i.e. friend or acquaintance) that can embed sounds within a copy of the high-quality finished product that you've completed?"
Respectfully, I honestly could care less about the prices, I already know they'll be expensive... I'm just trying to figure out if you add sound to your animations and if you know of people you could direct us to. I'm a patient guy so don't worry about apologizing to me for 'late responses'.
Take care!! ;3
PS. LOVE your style and animation work and I look forward to commissioning you in the future!
I'm guessing that would depend on the quality of the models and what program they were made in.
I would love a solo animation more of a tender loving animation rather than a fast and furious beat off. My sona is genderless (but in this case I'd like it male), so I if I told you basically the general jist of how I wanted certain things to look would you be up for some artistic freedom? Also are wings and fire going to be an issue?
Next, I agree with your prices, however dropping 200-500USD in one sitting would be difficult for some, Would you be accepting a payment plan before and/or after the model and animation is complete?
Still, I find myself interested in hiring you in the near future (after sorting out a few other bills that need to be paid off, of course =P ) and found myself looking over how much I'd have to expect to have on hand. The issue is... the info listed only really sort of hints at it.
Usable Models
It's possible, even if I prefer to keep my work for myself.
I don't know the prices for that, but it will be over 100 € for sure, and more expensive if it's not for personnal use.
Basically, I'm looking for a character model primarily to use for animations for a youtube series I was planning on starting. The standard webcam dealie just isn't really fitting for what I have in mind, and I can do the animations no problem in record time, especially lip synching, but my modeling of anthros is... well... let's just say I can do realistic hard surface models just fine, but the last time I tried a furry model, it looked like she was beaten senseless with the ugly stick.
As such, I could probably provide full orthographics to model from, 3/4 coloured perspective reference point material, and wouldn't need the finished product animated, just modeled, rigged, textured, furred and so on.
Since it'd be semi-professional (not intending to make money off it; educational series rather than one meant for income, but it probably would generate a small amount of income), I'm estimating... 225-250€ for the model and scene files?
Anyway, just checking if that sounds roughly appropriate so I can start setting up my budget for the next little bit. =3
I live in New Zealand and two of the artists I've commissioned are Canadian.
Is there is any sort of discount for french people/feral/something/putin? :D
I would like an intro into my role playing game. I put sex drugs and rock n roll in it, so a player would have to be at least 18 verifiable to play it. I want to find cloud funding to publish it or alternately make it into a MMORG on line. I'll need someone to help me create the story-line animations. I want to run both Skyrim and World of Warcraft out of business with my RPG since I don't have any limitations.
Mine has two rules only for players. I allow everything in my game and it is structured differently than any other RPG's since created, (since1975). The players control the direction of the game and it does not have a ceiling for characters. I have about 255 character races possible for my game so this might be lucrative for you, (you might have to hire some people).
My (timeline) story in full is 20,000 years long across 200 planets in six galaxies. I figured out how to do time travel and dimension travel. It is both science fiction and magic-high fantasy plus a few other genres. I will probably be using you to do most of my animations and will find someone else to help me create the Skyrim style character designs.
The intro will allow me to gather cloud funding across a wide spectrum of investors interested in seeing this NEW game come to fruition. I plan on having real DM's, or in my case referees watch over 10,000 people at a time on the MMORG. I finished the design and structure myself without copying, (no plagiarism) anyone else game system or company.
I'll get back to you on the money. But I wanted to contact you first to at least let you look at the idea. Your initial animation will be to obtain seed money, (through cloud funding) to buy the software and the computers necessary to program the main game into a set of LAN servers and then create the on-line company to use. The game won't make any money in rent per three months per user, until it opens on line. I probably won't make any money for years to come, but I wanted to be famous not actually rich. But I might be.
Myself I can do 47 accents of people around the world speaking English, and have done about 155 major productions on stage to be able to create scripts and storyboards for each animation.
I can kind of draw stuff, look at my gallery. For some reason I don't really understand myself I paint on canvass or glass better than I can do with digital or on paper even though I've been drawing about twenty years longer.
On glass most people are waiting for my animals in the painting to move or breathe, other things come out so realistic they are confused as to what is real or what is painted on.
Anyway I'll have to get back to you on the money, before we can even start.
par contre si tu accepte le payement en temps d'esclavagisme, j'adorerai que tu me donne quelque petit conseille pour avoir un fur d'encore meilleurs qualité pour mon travaille ! les 6 mois que j'ai passé a essayer de tweak et de retweak les miens me donne un résultat limite :'(
one a dom the other at first not knowing he is willing then after a point the surprise at being willing, (third anal stroke deep in him), then ecstatically more than willing to becoming a power sub in the end.
oral short strokes only into the mouth at first a lot of cum drips out of the sub's mouth after the Dom cums.
then anal, then oral again on the willing sub.
ending in an anal of long strokes in the more than willing very happy sub.
Dom is nude with some bondage master gear on. Sub is nude in bondage gear. the scene starts out in a rough oral. then turns to unwilling anal until the happy surprise at the third thrust. then willing. then after the cum phase starts. oral and willing smiling and laughingly eager, going deep throat this time.
The sub helps by moving into each thrust, with his mouth and down his throat only a little cum drips out of the sub on the second oral, meaning he drank it all though some will squirt out showing the Dom has cum again.
then anal again to the sub enjoying his new found pleasures. deep and sloppy. sub pushes back as best he can with the pole stretching out his legs four feet at the fetlocks. he lifts up on his toes at each slide back off. (fetlocks are the area just above the hoof also called a pastern - toe bone) The sub's tail tip (under the hair) is tied up on a line to his wrists. after he enjoys it his tail flexes lifting up.
The sub's shorter thinner cock is pink and black than the dom's larger longer cock. the subs cock extends out of the sheath after the third anal thrust and gets erect very fast. in the oral the sub cums on every deep stroke thrust in or out by the dom's cock.
then again on every stroke in or out on the final anal.
Dom has canine-like or dragon-like feet. Zebra has simpler one toed feet like a horse. The zebra is standing the whole time he is lifted off the ground on the last strokes/ the zebra sub cums hard each stroke in or out at the place where the dom stops pulling out there and again, on the full push inside.
When bent over he squirts hard into the floor/ground. when stood up he squirts long and high in the air (if inside it drips off the ceiling or far walls, if outside in a spray spattered area). outside is barren no trees no shade really except the two characters, maybe a rock quarry or open sand. Any wind will only moved the upraised tail until it is dripping in cum.
- maybe if this is not to difficult to do.
The sub is bent over to oral, he bobs his head on the second oral. (no scat!)
I would like it to be different from what you are used to in maybe this way unless it is too difficult to do. This one little slight 'air' might make this one sell more than the usual.
Sub is in bondage pole and leg irons, arms tired staccato behind. a zebra of my design character (yellow stripes on brown horse-like hair yellow mane short yellow tail, normal regular build, and a Dom: wingless tailless lizard-dinosaur Tyrannosaurus-like not scaled but skin; strong muscular bulky green with yellow greenish belly and undersides.
Dom cums after each time in the mouth or anus of the sub this squirts out around his cock making a mess on the floor or ground depending. A lot of cum drips out after the last anal the sub opens his mouth in a cum dripping smile lowering his head for more.
The Dom's cock is green a little on the blue side.
setting is outside in the early morning or noontime sun or inside in a dungeon of stone your choice. Your usual two different views. You have permission to use my designs for this one only as a license agreement.
get back to me on a price.
You can sell this one on license as many times as you want,
Unlike mine there is zero castration of the sub there is zero color change in the subs skin either.
More like; o.O "How did they just fall off?!"
Side note: I see a lot of comments saying "if I only had the money." Yes. Money is always tight, however, everyone knows this.
Goodness I have an attitude today. Sry.
Answer to side note : Yes - a lot of people would do a lot more if they have the money. Do I like h0rs3? Obviously. Do I like his price-plus added rule? No. I'd rather someone more reasonably priced. Maybe fek - who knows. I don't have many plans for me, myself, or my fursona currently. I'm sure I have a lot more plans eventually, just not now. (Like one of the cons I was hoping to go to this year. That didn't happen. Many sad.)
I'm not sure how you had an attitude. Thanks anyways for the comment. Gave me something to speak about.
Chirp! ^v^
This twig is perfect!
*Takes twig for bird things*
Off topic, sorry..just wondering though about commissioners, can payments be done in installments once a price quote has been given to give more flexibility of how much to pay off at a time by letting the commissioner choose how much to pay off at once? Just for given the fact for the amount of time it takes to make character models, rig them, and then animate them with all the long hours of effort that's put into doing it.
I do agree that the pricing is very fair seeing the amount of detail you put into doing it, and of course it's not just a simple do this and that and it's done in a matter of weeks.I can see a lot of hours taking many months to do just right.
I will most definitely float back here when I have the money!I know it's really hard to talk about this one, considering that is says it's non-negotiable, but still...
You're literally telling people that you're going to make more money off of their copyrighted characters.
Doing that without a lick of commission compensation, even 1% per every sale of probable character's animation...
I mean...has anyone ever asked about this, or has everyone just accepted the absurdity of that?
And that is how much is it to do a Pokemon spa like scene?
Charizard gets a Blowjob on his back as well as Tail Fuck by Dragonair which she finishes then him off by deep throat and firing water gun like attack which result Charizard hitting orgasm like never before?
I guess the question is are humans allowed in multi-character pieces that are primarily involving other species?
Sincerely, Madison.
1. what program do you use for the models and animations?
2. would it be possible to commission you just for the model?
What type of software do you use for your work and can it output to .obj or .fbx?
What would you charge for just the model with no animation or particle effects but with textures? Can you give me a ballpark estimate on that?
You probably get asked this often, but is there a set time you open commissions? I wouldn't want to miss my chance in the future.
I love your work, keep it up
Which is why I am asking and not assuming
Additionally, since this is still the one being linked to on his commission page, one can assume it is accurate to some degree
Since you don't have anything about this listed, I thought it would be important to ask.
however, i just have 1 small question about the model being used.
is it possible to get the files for the model as well? or would that be a no-no?
A few months is defiantly worth the wait for one of you animations. Plus honestly with the quality and time you put into your work. I'm surprised and astounded people would think its a quick thing!
Hoping to work together with you in the future!
- If you send me a note about commission, you have to certify that you read the whole journal, Otherwise I won't reply.
What if you read the whole but skip the summary, as I did almost? Cheers.
I do hope to speak with you!
Not right now, but I intend to request it you!
Not able to afford a comm right now, but I thought I'd comment here to answer some questions I think people would appreciate seeing publically.
1 - is this journal's prices and subjects you will/won't do still up to date? Does it require a new journal post to update?
2 - I hope this doesn't sound stingy, I'm just curious: would you agree to any sort of ongoing payment thing? I was imagining within the time you're working on the animation, as the few months you're working on it would be time enough to earn at least some of the commission price, but I can totally understand if not.
3 - Vis-a-vis 'existing models', what counts as a usable model, what would be required functionality-wise, anything people should know about what you will or will not work with? With so many people having VRChat models, I expect you get asked if [insert VR model here] would work, so it might be good to have a public clarification.
4 - On that subject, how about the other way around - would you consider sharing model files with customers to use in their own 3D projects or in games such as VRChat? I imagine the rigs are considerably different, and making one of your models SFW would be an extra hassle in and of itself, so probably not, but worth asking I think ^^
If I were to commission you, I'd have other more specific or private questions, but as I'm merely planning ahead and working out what I need to know and have prepared, these seem like appropriate questions to ask.
Must've been watching your stuff for nearly 9 years now, and your work is still amazing, keep it up!