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Rokko's Drug Run_I'm complaing about comments here...
15 years ago
Ok I know I'm being immature about this but when I submit a picture I spend some time on and looks uniquely different then what I've been doing before, is it really wrong to ask for intelligent comments?
Teachers mark you down for giving one word answers, why SHOULDN'T I get upset when someone give me one word comments?
Instead of saying something like "Wut?" or "Huh?" or "O.O!!", how about saying something like;
"Wut? This picture is really weird and I don't get it. It's COOL, but it's so out there my feeble mind can't understand it."
And I know I'm going to get comments on THIS journal people saying;
"It's the internet, you should expect it. Stop complaining"
I should be allowed to complain because I work HARD to get this shit done. There are people who can do a sketch a day that looks fucking amazing, and I have to work my ass off to make the pic look decent. When I want to submit something that's totally different then what I've become popular for I should allowed to be upset and distort when I don't get the right response for it, let alone any response at all.
I am a TOTAL SUPPORTER of "If you have nothing nice to say don't say it at all." So if you fav and run, I'd complain less then a shitty comment.
I'm going to submit a lesbian picture later in this week that will get 30 favs, 10 comments in which 8 of those comments being something like "WTF?" "My Childhood" and "HOT!! :P", and 15 new watchers who won't do shit for me the rest of my life on FA. Seriously I get these people who don't even LURK around my account. 20% of my watchers actually look at my stuff, 18% actually care to fav my stuff, 8% will comment (that number goes up if it's fanart), and 2% actually care about the work and say something interesting.
It's been a pet peeve of mine since I've been in the internet and I've been around here for a long fuckin time. I've never liked one word comments and if you find me a bitch then I'm not the only bitch you know cause I'm not the only one who gets pissed off at that lazy shit. And don't think you can be clever shit by replying to this journal in a one word comment, 8Horns got banned for that shit, and I'll ban you too.
So I'll submit the picture back to FA but if you don't have nothing nice to say just fav and Run for all I care.
Teachers mark you down for giving one word answers, why SHOULDN'T I get upset when someone give me one word comments?
Instead of saying something like "Wut?" or "Huh?" or "O.O!!", how about saying something like;
"Wut? This picture is really weird and I don't get it. It's COOL, but it's so out there my feeble mind can't understand it."
And I know I'm going to get comments on THIS journal people saying;
"It's the internet, you should expect it. Stop complaining"
I should be allowed to complain because I work HARD to get this shit done. There are people who can do a sketch a day that looks fucking amazing, and I have to work my ass off to make the pic look decent. When I want to submit something that's totally different then what I've become popular for I should allowed to be upset and distort when I don't get the right response for it, let alone any response at all.
I am a TOTAL SUPPORTER of "If you have nothing nice to say don't say it at all." So if you fav and run, I'd complain less then a shitty comment.
I'm going to submit a lesbian picture later in this week that will get 30 favs, 10 comments in which 8 of those comments being something like "WTF?" "My Childhood" and "HOT!! :P", and 15 new watchers who won't do shit for me the rest of my life on FA. Seriously I get these people who don't even LURK around my account. 20% of my watchers actually look at my stuff, 18% actually care to fav my stuff, 8% will comment (that number goes up if it's fanart), and 2% actually care about the work and say something interesting.
It's been a pet peeve of mine since I've been in the internet and I've been around here for a long fuckin time. I've never liked one word comments and if you find me a bitch then I'm not the only bitch you know cause I'm not the only one who gets pissed off at that lazy shit. And don't think you can be clever shit by replying to this journal in a one word comment, 8Horns got banned for that shit, and I'll ban you too.
So I'll submit the picture back to FA but if you don't have nothing nice to say just fav and Run for all I care.
These people can easily have 200 people they follow... Hell 2000 is not unheard of. If you honestly expect even half of those people to truly care about even half of those they watch... Well, to me that is delusional thinking.
If you're looking for critique and honest assessment of your work you have to either change your attitude about things, thus attracting the sorts of people you want... Or you will need to post your artwork in a more serious forum designed for such reviews.
I'm sorry my comment upset you so much.
I don't watch people because I don't want to be a useless watcher. I see their stuff and I only comment on people and artwork that really interest me for the moment. I'm sure most of the favs I get on my art are from people who DON'T watch me and don't care to watch me, which is fine. Hell when I notice someone who frequently comments and favs my stuff I give them feedback on a pic of theirs I find interesting. No matter what, it's always hard to figure out what that artist is looking for in feedback and that's the only time I can accept a commenter who doesn't know how to give the right response to the work they're viewing.
No I get it really I am being irrational but it wasn't just you, cause the pic had been up for 3 days and the only other person to comment also says "wut?" and I'm like "Fuck! Don't people read?" So then I question my own competence and rant about it in a journal to express my frustration.
The best way I can think to get critiques is to ask for them. Post your art on forums designed to critique art... Ask your watchers what they think in the description, and respond when you get feedback; even if it's not the best or most wordy note.
Yours floating log with thousands of others... Gotta get lucky to stand out above the rest.
Then again I know plenty of people who just don't say anything at all, whether they like something or it confuses them. That's fine, it's effort and they don't wanna bother. Definitely not as frustrating. (:
I'd probably be a lot more annoyed by all those same things, but I have at least one or two awesome friends that comment my work and comment to show they get what I was doing, and if they don't get it they communicate it properly. And I try to do that for them too. (:
I dunno if you do that sorta thing with anyone, but it's a great mutual thing to have going on. (:
We really need something on FA with permissions for each user. A list of your watchers with a check box for every thing they can do to interact with you. Probably automatically allow everything, but if people post too many "wut" comments you can disallow them from commenting on art. Too many shouts? Block someone's shouting privilege. Maybe this would encourage more people to write intelligent responses to art or journals, if it doesn't at least you can keep those people from continuing to shower you with stupid.
What there needs to be is a means to be is a means to take people off your watch list. Start over and pick the people who you want to have watch you, rather then just anyone looking at you and then forgetting about you moments later when they find someone who draws bigger tits.
A lot of this is speculation. However, I still think this would be a useful feature in the event that someone may cause issues somewhere, but be amicable elsewhere. Or at the very least if you'd like someone to be able to note you still to later have the option of apologizing.
A lot of this is speculation. However, I still think this would be a useful feature in the event that someone may cause issues somewhere, but be amicable elsewhere. Or at the very least if you'd like someone to be able to note you still to later have the option of apologizing.
I never give one word comments when I do comment though. I hate those too.
What I am angry about is that blind set of FA people who read and don't do anything. It's hard to reach to them when they don't' give a shit and still fuck with you cause they're trolls or just lazy.
I used to feel a bit guilty because many great artists hate to have -say- 500 views, 40 faves and zero comments in every pic. I noticed a while ago i wasn't actually contributing anything of value so i stopped (or at least i think i did)
What's the altered light that I see? The writing aspect. "Oh, not this again," you're probably saying. As annoying as it may be, though, it's the thought that often comes to mind for me. You work hard on lines, perspectives, angles, colors, shadows, and presentation to bring forth your creations to everyone. I work hard on setting, plot, character, diegesis, mimesis, and grammar to bring forth my own works to the masses. We both want some sort of feedback from others in what we did.
You'll get it more since the creation's on a site dedicated to visual creation; if I'm lucky, a friend of mine may notice what I write. Ironically, I've come to like even those monosyllabic notations that get thrown my way; at least them saying something, anything, shows that the story affected them enough to want to be verbal, or typographical, about it. In having good friends, that's no guarantee that any of them will notice or care about your work. Best I can hope for is a silent reader that does nothing, simply reading the piece and then moving along.
I'm probably digressing a bit from the main point. I do agree that you're allowed to feel upset if others do this sort of thing. At least you have the 2% that's got your back. Better some than none, eh?
And to conclude on the whole writing thing, I had to somewhat stop caring to a degree. Being overlooked on drawing sites and ignored on writing sites will tear you up within if you care too much...a sort of Catch 22, if you really think about it.