Oh Stephen Fry...
How I love him :3

i like his voice

Don't nazi grammar.

This made me clap with delight.

Seconded. *clapping*

Yayz!

*whole hall aplauses*

My clapping is finally heard.

Total fav. Absolute true. This is genious message.

Dear God, I feel enlightened.

This was great. Lets dump this in all the grammar nazis and watch them all have a ultimate debate on why there still right.

This would not give a profit. They are so attracted to think they're smarter, than you, so they woun't actually listen to this. And yes, even if they WILL listen to mr. Fry, they never will show their understanding.

It's just how competitor's brain works: "you are wrong! I am right! I don't care what you're saying! - it's still wrong, so you better listen to ME because I am right!"

etc...

I'm only a grammar nazi towards the lazy - and only in RP. Like he said - it's about suitability, about time and place.

Thanks for sharing this!!!
... I'm sometimes a bit of a grammaar nazi so it was a good dose of humility and a review of the importance of context in life.

If you're admit it - you're not nazi already. Let's say it was a little overflowing attempt to correct someone I respect people like you.

Actually I never correct anybody.
I just get annoyed by things like your and you're... a lot xD

Oh i see.. "You ARE" preference isn't.... oh, excuse me... Is not a crime at all.

i was not born english but i love respecting it and do my best at representing it the best i can. i loved this video because it represent my anger i have to deal with everyday thus being under potential influence that quite hurts my needs for expression at times!

i like to pretend that the words build a fort...
< w >

I BE HIDIN IN YER GOOD GRAMMAR. STEELIN YER SMARTNESS

And they do build a fort! Walls that are mighty, but penetrable only for those whowant to get in.
The fortress of "language"! See what I did there

George Carlin said a simplified version of the same thing during a lot of his acts late in his life. We're only as good as the quality of our language.

pew

XP

That's so awesome. :D Thanks for sharing.

Wish I could fav this.

You can if you have a YouTube account.

I could listen to him all night. What a pleasure!!

Hehe, saw it earlier. :3

Next time someone tells me I used the wrong word even though I'm understood in context I'm linking to this.

I love this...

I love this...

I said "I love this" in real life more than once, and it's true.

This makes me feel very, very good to be a writer...


Long live words!


And I agree with everything he said...

It makes me very, very sad you call yourself a writer.

no u c his stores may look lik chat logs but that is jus cuz he is being CREATIVE lik OSCAR WILD

Hey everyone, let's stir the pot and try to start shit FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER! Then we can be cool like Stalker here! =D

Because uploading chatlogs as literature and being really arrogant about being a great author is alright but pointing it out isn't.

But please share your wisdom you get from having 300+ submissions in your gallery that you didn't make.

I'm just sayin' you had absolutely no valid reason to make a comment clearly bashing someone on their skill as a writer in a journal that was not posted by you. You're dragging out needless and unnecessary negativity... and why? Just... why? Because you can? Because you're having a bad day and need to take it out on someone else? Because this is the internet, and there's absolutely no punishment for your actions, so you can go slinging mud all you like? I'm sure I could go on making psychological assumptions based on the human nature of one to insult others to make themselves feel better, but that'd be awful lengthy and boring for the both of us.

My "wisdom" doesn't come from my submissions - nor does yours or anyone else's. Contrary to popular belief, the number of submissions or pageviews you have do not amount to anything even slightly related to importance. I find your assumption that I measure my e-peen based on that insulting in fact. xD

My "wisdom," is more-so "common sense." As in, the common sense in knowing when someone's being a dick.

You, sir, are being a dick.

But you can continue to be a negative Nancy all you like. I will, from this point, not justify any counter-argument you make to try and make yourself seem like less (or more) of a dick with any sort of wasted response.

Note that I did not once say I either agree or disagree with you. I'm not defending anyone. I'm just sayin'... You've got no reason to be such a douche.

Oh, and by the by, I did create some of my submissions - most of the written ones, save maybe one. Thanks for comin' out though.

"I'm so above this argument I won't even PARTICIPATE anymore but I still will get the last shot in"

The weakest dog barks the loudest...

...until a healthy application of shotgun rounds is applied.

I see no evidence of said arrogance. And I can tell that his stories are posted in chat-log format... sort of a mix-matched jumble based loosely on a format of writing known as script.

It may not be the sorta writing you're used to seeing or enjoying, and it's certainly not the kind of writing that I'd create myself, but hell... It's still writing, you're just not used to it, and don't like it.

You sure talk a lot for someone who claims he doesn't want to drag this out any further (after starting it)

Your brain is broken.

I naturally consider that technology as a whole in the current world we all live in today has reached a certain level that not everyone is so very capable of understanding how to use properly...



And in Layman's terms...



...that means that "shit's really complex, and sensible logic found itself DEAD with your mind when you posted this comment, rationalizing that  milkjunkie had "started" something that only came within the boundaries of confrontational conflict due to http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/...../#cid:15038503 .

Oh crunch, that wasn't "Layman's terms..." @_@

"You didn't know what the fuck was even going on."

But y'know what's more important than that? [b]This!^^/b] http://d.facdn.net/art/emopanda/mus.....dbeatthing.mp3

Bob your head with me now... =u_u= --> =u-u= --> =u_u= --> =u-u= --> =u_u=...

MEEEAT?!?!



Good morning, soul.





I'm gonna play with you as unwilling food now... =3





You see what you FAIL to realize is, the differing interactions between my characters does not in fact stem from a multitude of INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE (with the exception of six of my submissions), but, as I'm sure you will never be able to comprehend, MYSELF. Yes, my characters - who consist of males, females, and even divinely implying beings - have personalities all developed by "some random dude who seems like a total nutjob in the stuff he says in his journals," a.k.a. "THE MOTHERFUCKER WHO'S ABOUT TO RAPE YOUR CONCEPT OF PERCEPTION AS A WHOLE..."

I can understand the general lack of inspiration and colorlessly mundane mentalities of children people who's minds come dangerously close to the thresholds of daunting physical pain and overall brain failure whenever they so much as ATTEMPT to keep up with the colloquial flow I portray in story contexts. "We're only human," somebody once said, and some of us are so full of our own pompus and over-inflated egos from childhood to teenhood - and even into adulthood - that we can't help but impose our own baseless views upon the nature of anything that falls outside of painfully commonplace and overly redundant story boundaries that seem to always plainly explain to the reader just what it is that's happening in so-expected-a-nature to the point where people end up becoming bored to death. It's not your fault you're tasteless. Maybe if life dealt you some moreso HARSH "cards" in the place of what you're holding in your soul right now, you'd even be CAPABLE of understanding the raw implications in my works.

Still, since you were fool enough to point out your disinterest in my work, you could at LEAST try to provide some relevant <<<feedback>>> to support your opinionated claims outside of "Nooo dude...you suck hardcore."



Humor me...



I just got done nomming on some eggs and sausage, and I could use the comic relief.

And thanks for conveying to me the general thought process of the portion of FA users bloating my pageviews up who are nothing but "ENVIOUS/[/color=red]SPITE-RIDDEN[/color]/FAIL-trolls," but do share your alleged "wisdom."

Your input will actually "matter..."





=^_^=

WOW YOU USE BIG WURDS

U SHURE R GUD WRITR

You don't seem capable of utilizing all those words you throw around. That your stories are chatlogs written by only yourself doesn't make them better either. Also wait,
Maybe if life dealt you some moreso HARSH "cards" in the place of what you're holding in your soul right now, you'd even be CAPABLE of understanding the raw implications in my works.
Did you just say that people need to be retarded to enjoy what you write?

You just aren't SOPHISTICATED enough to understand him, man.

He's like MODERN DAY JAMES JOYCE

if you don't enjoy his stuff it's not cuz of any flaw of his own, he is flawless

it's all YOU

U mad.

...in more ways than one.

Hm, I get the feeling that you're using such a colourful vocabulary simply for the sake of how amusing it sounds when read back. However, despite this, I can see what you're saying and where you're coming from. Allow me to summarize in layman's terms:

"Nobody's forcing you to read it if you don't like it, and most writers know they can't please everyone. The fact that they don't please one person in particular holds no more weight than the other displeased person next to you. We care, but we don't at the same time."

Hm, I get the feeling that you're using such a colourful vocabulary simply for the sake of how amusing it sounds when read back.

That was true.

It's hard NOT to respond with what is essentially a ridiculous compilation of "large words meant to insult some random jack off" when somebody comes out of nowhere and demeans me.

'Course, I could try to explain to him just exactly what it is that I generally do in my writings, but, uh...I typed that up on my front page? Yeah. >_>

I write for fun, and not to "shatter the galaxy and make everyone else suck because I have an inferiority complex," and...

...and he's an ass. :V

I have a hard time trying to come up with excuses to say something "intelligible" to people who like to start flame wars...

...because there's really nothing to add outside of "shut the fuck up," which escalates into ever-growing insanity based on, uh... "Me > You > Me > You > SSJ4 Gogeta," and so forth...

I'm listening to "Khalkus's Theme Music" from "Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords.

And contrary to popular belief, I'm actually a human typing away on a computer keyboard...

...which makes actual sense... ._.

The very first story (Read: Story) I ever wrote in my life was for a "short story" assignment when I was a high-school junior. It was based on the fictional world of "Exile" created by these folks: http://www.spiderwebsoftware.com The first four character's on my "My Character Sheet" submission here on FA - along with four other characters and two supporting characters - were its focus (but they weren't as "outlandishly implying" as they are here). The story was 10 pages long front and back, and I even included some biography papaers and general anatomy references on the characters let alone the world they dwelt in. My "English" teacher (yes, it was merely an "English" class...) was amazed at what I had written - and HOW it was conveyed to the reader - and she graded me with an A+ and also included both several complimentary comments on its pages, along with a crituque of one particular section of implying dialogue asking "Who is this "Monitor" character?" That was NOT the norm with assignments graded in that class, and I was honored to have been looked upon as a writer whose work was worthy of her appreciation.

Naturally everybody else came over to my desk asking me questions and such. And for the sake of satisfying  coracleboat's desire to see everyone of the writing genre of artistry bow down and suck his dick, no, I didn't flaunt myself about like I was "all that and a bag of chips." :V

I was simply satisfied with knowing I was a substantial writer.

And no, it wasn't written in:

Person #1: alwhjfawlhf.

Person #2: alhlsehja? lhel;awhgl...

...format, which, although I understand is "the bane of humanity" to scholars like  stalkerhyena, is a form of written context I am very comfortable with.

Make of this what you will.

Wow, I CAN SAY SMART THINGS!!! 8D

*cough*

Splendiferous.

That was great =D Thanks Dragoneer this will help with my typography studies^^

I came.

LAWL.

Stephen Fry is teh AWESOMENESS!!!!!

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Great.

Now I can't blink.

And the worst part is you can't stare either, because of the eyes!

...Oh God now I can't blink either.

CAN'T EVEN SCROLL AWAY. ARGH

see this is relly encuraging 2 me cuz it shows dat languae evolve n i dnt gotta listen to no1 abot how 2 write bc if u look @ midevil texts u c that theyre words r diff 2 n dat just is how language is is that it changes so w/e we shuld write how we want u cant limit my creativity i am just like oscar wilde

i finally feel librated

Leet Speak No.. Bad boy BAD *gets the newspaper!!* XDD

newspaper? :C

he is gonna oppress my vernaculur, nat. evolved english w/ his heteronormalizing PROPAH SPEECH so no u c how language is a soshal wepon

im a girl and this video has shown me dat ur conceptuns of prpr speech r just n priveldged heteronormatizing impozition n m. priv. class enforces prpr langege to keep da u.priv. classes opp. grammeticel correktnuss is class warfare. jus lik how ya gotta use HIGH SPEECH 4 job interviews b we all no u rlly dnt need 2. it is a tool of class warefare, nthing more. it limits culture and creativity. besides this video said i culd b like oscar wild cuz he did not follow the rules and BTW langugae evolves naturally u cant fight it.

this is the future of english

I see what you did there.

And I applaud. B]

I am so happy.

I think a bit of my faith in this world is restored.

SPEAK ENGLISH, BOY!

im a gurl and dis IS english. did u even watch teh video? da only raison ur correcting me is b/c u haf a pedantic need 2 prove ur smarter. it is not the words theirselves b/ the content. ur trying to make me use ur sophisticated language is blind adherence 2 stifling heteronormative values w/ exist only as a social filter 2 keep the uneducated perp. opressed.

also wow, I totally just pulled off a gerund like this, I am pretty proud.

If leet-speak is the future of English I'm learning German.

Leet-speak is interesting in how it takes advantage of your brain's ability to interpret symbols that would otherwise not be used in the context given, such as using an "@" sign to mean "at", as well as using individual letters to represent entire words, such as "c" for "see", and also written regional accents, such as "dat" for "that". That kind of stuff could keep me up all night researching and studying "just because." Leet-speak could also be interpreted as the next evolution of English as it was used many, many, many years ago in telegraph abbreviations, where each character cost money. However, that is where my interest and caring for the form of writing ends, and, unless you can prove that you are using it highly creatively, I will assume you are merely being lazy, as is evident by your lack of punctuation, capitalization, and spelling.

ur need 2 type such long sentences n use pretend smart words lik assume n however meen ur just adhereing to heteronormative values n unwittingly participeting in da oppression of low. classes. when do we use high langage well this video shows it is during job interviews it is not norm. and it is a means of filtering uneducated o/ off culture. even when unedcuated are jus as cualified it is cuz arbitriarary standards returd the natreal growth of langueeg. vernaculur replaces high langueeg alwazs n dis is da futur, just like dis video augers. cant wait 2 writ my thesis lik dis.

Double Plus Ungood.

If you want a picture of the future, imagine an IM conversation of lols--forever.

I shudder to imagine it. Kudos for catching the reference!

An intelligent link from the Dragoneer? Well, I do believe there is a first time for everything. *ducks!* That was quite intriguing to listen to/watch. Thanks for this.

here here! well said ol chap! bravo!

Its good to no their are people who could care less about improper language use! I am literally exploding with joy!

(yes, sarcasm)

I agree with this to a point. I think there's a huge difference in being playful and malleable with your language and being lazy and putzing up your theres, they'res and theirs for example. On some level I think that some grammar nazis have taken to being "guardians of language" to attempt to prevent decline in terms of text speak and ignorance of many users in the internet age, but they're being a little too over protective in their efforts and turned it into a crusade to strike down any slight misspeaking or odd phrasing.

Aside, Stephen Fry is so damn amazing in his eloquence and reason <3

There's a point where grammar matters, such as "you're" and "your". Some simple basics that cover the essentials. But I think that some people got a little apeshit, especially the "15 items or less" example. I have been with people who get enraged whenever they see that. Any slight "misuse" of grammar sets them off, and sometimes it's always warranted.

Some things are worth fighting, others are not. Sort of the comparison of written English and spoken English. Most people don't speak they way that they write.

Ironically I'm actually going to ask for a little bit of clarity. "Sometimes it's always warranted"? I'm not sure what you mean. Personally I roll my eyes at some of the basic errors but one should revel in how crazy English is sometimes. Parking on driveways and driving on parkways and whatnot.

I'll admit I pick at some of the small things like your and you're and such, the more essential building blocks but I also admit I get giddy about silly words sprouted from conversations or strange word combinations as Stephen Fry points out in the clip as "sound-sex". There's a bit of a difference between being silly and lazy I think.

Sorry, tired. Some basic essentials are certainly warranted. There/they're/their, you're/your, but some of the more finicky grammatical aspects (e.g. prepositions) start getting pointless. If we constantly bashed people for ending a sentence with a preposition then we'd never STOP chewing people out for how they communicate.

THis. thousand times this.

Its sad to see that Grammar Nazi's are not only limited to the english language but the german as well. We have a huge wave of so called "Defenders of the german language" right now, with many of them even becoming something akin to super stars, for example Bastian Sick and his popular book "Der Dativ is dem Genetiv sein Tod".

Its good to see some people fight for the relaxation of speech as well. Thank you Stephen Fry.

Grammar Nazis are universal.

And I will say this it's even worse for German. The language has 26 ways to say the word "the".

All of those "the's" are to demonstrate case and gender. Without those 26 ways to say "the" the language ceases to function.

Stephen Fryy, national treasure...~

That's beautiful. Thanks for sharing that.

You know, with very little changing of words, this could be applied to moral guardians who are doing it "for the children." Just a random thought.

Isn't this from one of his podcasts?
And love his work and to listen to his reasonings.
The man has charisma. :)

I think I could probably just sit and listen to Stephen Fry talk about anything really for hours on end and never once become bored.

I'm pretty sure Stephen Fry could just read off ingredients on a cake box, and EVERYBODY would sit there and just listen.

I think he could go even further than that, Stephen Fry could read probably every page out loud to my cars instruction manual. Reading it out loud would probably take three or so hours and yet I don't think people would be bored.

Laughed so hard, because it's so true.

or the yellow pages xD

Somehow the ingredients to the GlaDOS cake core as read by Stephen Fry come to mind?

Probably, but I don't think they are missing everything.

Ahh Stephen Fry. :3

Oh that was just fantastic. c:
I have to admit, I get really pissed off when people don't use proper grammar, at times, but I know that I only have an amateur understanding of it myself, soooo.
Holy fuck, he described my love of words and language so well though. <3

That was brilliant.

This made me smile.

I like his voice too - I swear I've heard his voice before, but maybe I am thinking of David Attenborough.

If you've seen the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxies... he's the voice of the Book.

I have seen it - however, I don't remember much of it since it has been a long time....

His voice screams "Educated British Thinker" at me.

Oh Stephen Fry..
The love of my life!~

Don't Panic!

I recommend listening to the entire 30ish minute podcast that this Youtube video pulled a segment from. It's very entertaining and only touches on pedants as Stephen Fry is passionately trying to get across that people really need to take more enjoyment in playing around with words.

Meye eers ar dripsing wiff brane orgassums...

Thanks for sharing this! I'll show it some friends tomorrow!

Oh that was beautiful... Sometimes I'm a bit of a stickler when it comes to some things (or if I'm in a particularly bad mood I'll feel free to red-pen everyone at every chance I get...), so it was healthily humbling.

well, my native language is spanish so i sometimes mess up in english without knowing it x3
though i see english easier to write as spanish...you have apostrophes, we have acutes D: even if i write the words well i always miss those frickin' acutes

árbol, pájaro, México, presión, vacío, brújula

ááááááááááááárghhh!!!!

I like to play with language. I only get upset over someone's choice of words it gets in the way of understanding what they mean.

On the other hand, I've heard of employers who received resumes written in netspeak. Not a good way to get hired. X3

Whoop-de-doo for US lovers of Fry. Over here in England he's on TV (and the radio, and the in newspapers, and...) ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

Well, the thing is, I've never been called a 'grammar nazi' for the sake of correcting someone's adv. or adj. placement. No, the reason that people call the dyslexic that is me a grammar nazi is because I like to hold a baseline of competence that you just can't slither under.

I can't say I don't use an abundance of pause and contemplative tone mixed in with my ebullient southern drawl in an attempt at a 'sound-sex' as Mr. Fry put it, but if I prattle, then I scale it back abit. (I revised this paragraph 3 times already) There are people who are just ignorant, and only attempt to change when it becomes viewed in a poor light. Then they act like they'd never confuse 'you're' for 'your' or even dream of typing 'ur.'

... then again, I suppose I do drag it up only to be a dick, so I suppose it's all in truth, yah?


I wonder if Mr. Fry has never seen a furry/fanfic story before. ... I would laugh if he got ahold of one. He might recant this entire broadcast.

This.

These chords have struck a word unto myself.

c dis guy is wat im talking bot u do not need 2 use da reel def. of wurds just use ones that sound smrt or cool n it is al good

Language is purely about the communication of ideas and nothing else. As long as people understand you, you're fine.

Ah Mr Fry, something of an idol to me and my general knowledge loving self. :3

Currently listening to his second auto-biography thingy on the iPhone ("dyslexia lures, ko!" and all that). I strongly suggest reading his auto-biographies (or listening to them of course) as they are VERY entertaining and, I suppose, educational :)

meh, it's easy to figure out grammar nazi's...

they spent ungodly amounts of time and education getting a degree that doesn't do much other than act as a coaster for the cappucinos and lattes they serve at work.

basically, they're butthurt and are taking out their frustration at the easiest targets (instead of the targets they SHOULD have taken it out on... themselves... for wasting X years on a degree that's only value is the paper it's printed on.)

DAT IS JUST RITE

it is da privleged class tring to inforce a hetronormalizing oppresun of wurds 2 keep out da uneducated

no 1 outside of skool rlly writes r talks like those profesurs (omg i have dis 1 professur is such a jerk u wuldnt belief omg XDDD)

dis is how nrmal people talk n writ n it shuld just b made standrd b/c who r dey 2 tell people how 2 write??? rules just get in the way of saying what i wanna say

who is grammar nazi and which of his possessions are you trying to figure out?

dont opress him he is a free man now

dont need to ever use an apostraphe again

unless he want's to

then he can us'e apos'traphe's wherever an 's appear's cuz otherwise dat is just limiting creativity and being pedantic's's's

more pearls of wisdom from Mr Fry.

British people are so eloquent
isn't this the same guy that narrated the Technical Hitch?

This makes me happy, if words make you happy or any other emotion then however they're strung together works.

That video was indeed awesome.

However, there is so much retardation in many of the comments on this journal that I can't even focus my own eyes correctly anymore to read it further.

Oh have you ever opened up a can of worms with this. You could probably bitch about those fags and trannies disrespecting our values and get a more coherent debate out of it.

i do love stephan fry ^ ^

So how many people actually know the rules of language well enough to play with it, and how many stumble around blindly and call it creativity?

There are few masters in modern times.

That was an awesome video :) thank you for sharing good sir!

That was beautiful (and I've 'favorited' it in my Youtube account.) It really struck a chord with me, as I remember when I moved out of a rural school setting and into a more urban school. I recall being ridiculed for having such an evolved language for my age and subsequently dumbing it down for the next decade to avoid fights. It makes me rather sad that this got so few comments, and probably fewer still watches to it's conclusion. I wish people would really, really, just put forth more of an effort in the way they express themselves both online and verbally.

I feel, language seems to be decaying; more sharply this past decade than any other.

he should be given a kight hood

Stephen Fry was the best thing about Little Big Planet. =D

I think there are some instances where being a grammar Nazi is warranted, as in when you stumble across a statement that is filled with glaringly obvious spelling mistakes and errors.

But I agree with him that it is absolutely absurd that people are seen as "elitist" or "pretentious" just simply for using their knowledge of words that they're given, or even having the ability to play with words. I think it's a sign of how little education is valued when the people who know more are ridiculed for simply knowing more.

brilliant! he is such a good speaker i could listen for days!

I'm amused at all the commenters who seem to be taking this video to mean that they can write with horrible grammar, and it is now okay because Stephen Fry says so.

I think what the guy was referring to was quibbling over details of grammar that virtually nobody actually uses anymore (or never did) and resisting the adoption of new elements of grammar.

He wasn't referring to wholesale slaying the language.

If your writing looks like a 12 year old txting about his K/D ratio last night on his cell phone, I'm afraid you still look like an idiot. Sorry.

Now that was poetic.

That was beautiful!

Words are wonderful, wonderful things.
Which is why I am a grammar nazi. Or perhaps a grammar nazi sympathiser, as sometimes I will refrain and instead bite my tongue until it bleeds.

I agree.

I am not bothered by misuse of words or prepositions, but I don't enjoy reading a sentence made up of random spacing or "Capital Letters."

Honestly, I'm aware of my faults. Even though I lack a religious belief, I can think to myself, "Take the plank out of your own eye before taking the speck out of your brother's [eye]."

On iPhone, no Flash :P

Ipod, youtube silly!

or my android!

The thing is, I have Frash installed on my iPhone :P

oh ok lololol

right now i cant tell who is a better narrarator!!!! THIS GUY OR MORGAN FREEMAN!! D: HALP ME 'NEER WHO DO YOU THINK ARE BETTAH?!

He's right, but I fear a lot of people are going to/have taken this the wrong way and used it to justify their own antipathy toward people who do care about the language. Sort of an "AMEN, BROTHAH!" reaction to something he didn't actually talk about.
People don't like being called out on their mistakes, and oftentimes correcting someone's grammar is petty as Mr. Fry said, but as an English major with a language focus, I find it frustrating that you can't even broach the subject in a helpful manner without instantly turning people off. "You might want to correct this." "Shut up, Grammar Nazi." "Dude. Everyone at the college is going to see this newsletter. You don't want to look bad in front of academics and professionals, do you?" "No one'll notice."

I used to be what Mr. Fry discusses here, and I have since grown out of it, as I find it fairly childish and unhelpful, but I also sympathize with those who do it, as mistakes -do- get irritating, especially when people take the "I don't care" attitude about them.

So yeah. Love the language and play with it. I completely agree. Just read Kurt Vonnegut for an example of a guy who could do that wonderfully. But you can't play with something well until you know how it works, and you can't learn how it works if you just don't care.

I came.

He's the perfect Brit

This... just... this...

Also, Fry and Laurie

I don't care if he's gay, I'm going to marry him.

....I've met him, and hugged him. I cried a little.