Asexuality explained
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This is my guide to asexuality and will always be linked to on my main page. I want this to be a living document which is constantly being improved until it reaches a point that I can use it to explain asexuality to others.
Asexuality explained
It seems no matter how often I answer questions people have about asexuals in threads, new ones always seem to come up again after a while. There's a loooooot of misinformation about this orientation out there, and disturbingly, many prejudices as well. I'm tired of explaining over and over, and I'm tired of being told by people who have no idea what they are talking about I must just have something wrong with me. My goal is to make this the end all-be all page I use to put everything on the table about asexuality in a manner which is near impossible to misinterpret.
What is asexuality?
Asexuality is a sexual orientation identified as an inherent absence of a direct sexual attraction to either male or female individuals. Asexuality cannot be caused by hormone problems, injuries, or diseases. While those things can cause conditions with similar effects, those are caused by outside factors and are not something one is necessarily born with outside of unfortunate diseases or deformities passed on in extremely rare cases.
How do you know you're an asexual?
For me, being asexual isn't something that was noticed as a sudden manifestation. In fact, if anything being asexual was something that made itself apparent simply by way of its lack of appearance. At a time when everyone else my age was starting to shift interests less towards the games we all used to play and more towards people of the opposite sex, I was finding myself in complete disunderstanding of what was going on with them because I was not experiencing such mental changes in the slightest.
I went through puberty physically pretty much like any adolescent, but I didn't feel anything towards others that could be called attraction. I simply had friends and acquaintances and that was it. I was even scared of and subtly rebuffed advances by the few females who actually took the initiative to express interest in me. It was during this period in middle school it really began to sink in that there was something different about me, and that my thoughts in late elementary school that I would simply catch up with the others my age later were not going to happen.
It was a very long time after that that I continued to live with the knowledge that I was different. In a world where you were supposed to be attracted to girls and get a girlfriend, I lived thinking something was wrong with me. When I thought that you could only be either attracted to girls, or guys, or both, and knew that I definitely wanted nothing to do with females, but was less uncomfortable around guys simply because I just happened to be a guy myself, I began to fear that it must surely mean I was gay, even if I honestly felt no attraction towards guys either. Lack of attraction or not, I was still more comfortable around them than girls, and at the time my mind translated that to mean I might be gay.
That terrified me. It wasn't that the idea of being gay in and of itself was terrifying to me; it was the idea that I might be attracted towards other guys in such a way. I never was of course, but at that age I wasn't capable of the level of psychological evaluation that I am now. A long, long time went by. Years spent in confusion, fear, and shame because I didn't know exactly what I was inside. I couldn't talk about girls. I had no idea which girl was hotter. My parents were really starting to push me to get a girlfriend and have them some grandchildren. I felt like I was failing them.
It wasn't until I was 18 and had the powers of the internet at my fingertips that I finally learned what I was inside. I read a word that burned itself deeply into my mind. A word that burned into the very center of the empty void inside me that needed an answer to a question it did not comprehend. The word was asexuality, and it filled that void and created a sense of self and direction I had not known since the blissful days of early childhood. I knew who I was now. I had a full identity without any missing pieces. I wasn't into guys and there were going to be no grandchildren. With relief filling my very being and lifting away the weight of a tension that only years of fear could burden me with I knew that there was a fourth orientation, and that it described exactly what I had been experiencing all those years.
What do you mean by prejudices and misunderstandings?
The human mind is an amazing thing. You can discover so much about yourself if you only take a look at your own mind and learn the secrets of your own mental processes. I think perhaps I could have had a career in psychology of some sort and maybe even enjoyed it. My learning experience has taught me however that the mind attempts to insert the most plausible answer to a logical question that it can think of. This answer will always be based on one's own personal experiences in life however. It's not often someone will say they don't know an answer, or suggest the answer is yet to be found when their own answer, however unlikely, appears to possibly fit the question.
This is the primary obstacle when it comes to making people understand what being asexual is. Just as I didn't have any idea how to understand myself when I thought the only possible sexualities were heterosexual, homosexual, and bisexual, most people have no idea how to understand how someone can be asexual when every moment of most of their life has been consumed by constant sexual urges and desires. Just like I needed someone to give me the answer I had been unable to reach on my own, it is necessary to make these people experience the paradigm shift necessary to facilitate the beginnings of understanding.
There's so many things people mistake for being a part of sexuality. The mind is able to take an idea, an emotion, a thought or thing, and link it to an emotion. We are able to enjoy the taste of food, savor the sound of music, or be thrilled by the rush of wind and horizon twisting weightlessness of a roller coaster. So many stimuli that different people translate different ways. What's mundane to one person could very well be a fetish for another! I find this amazing and think it allows me to explain things to a non asexual metaphorically.
I think the most infuriating thing I ever come across is when someone says you can't be an asexual and masturbate. The reason it infuriates me is simply because there's so many logical failings and assumptions in such a statement that my mind simply screams incoherently at the travesty of logic that such a statement is merely by being spoken and the web of further assumptions and misinformation it creates merely by existing. Righting such a very wrong statement is a complex beast and requires me to start with the basics as if with a child and work up from there and hope the reader has not lost track of the point as it progresses from infancy to unassailable counterstatement.
Asexuals come in two basic subgroups. Group A is asexuals who don't masturbate. Group B is asexuals who do masturbate. I've seen it suggested that group B isn't asexual. Frankly, I don't need a sexual individual trying to say I'm not asexual. Within these two groups, some of these asexuals even do have sex. There's a very explainable reason for this I can see even if I'm not one of the ones that does it, but basic points must be covered before the more complex ones.
Both groups can also have fetishes. I've also seen sexual individuals trying to say you can't be asexual and have a fetish. It's time to explain how all these seemingly sexual things can be experienced by an asexual. The most basic and obvious thing that really shouldn't have to be said but shall is that asexuals have perfectly functional and working genitalia. Due to this fact, asexuals are quite capable of feeling sexual pleasure. There is this strange idea that being asexual somehow means you must be incapable of having an erection despite the fact your hormones are working normally and your genitals are capable of sensing pleasure.
That's another point there; people seem to think an asexual must not be able to feel anything good down there. I don't really know how people can possibly think this, but I'm not to experienced with being ignorant either. Some asexuals don't seem to experience much or any pleasure from their genitals, but at this time I am unsure if this is from asexuality or merely a side effect of circumcision. It's a very, very sensitive topic and not the sort of thing I can comfortably talk about with others.
Now, as I said earlier, the mind is able to link unlike things together. A fetish is what happens when for inexplicable reasons the mind links something to an arousal trigger. In a normal sexual individual a fetish is also going to likely be linked to the 'sex' trigger. That is, exposure to a fetish is also going to be considered a suitable substitute for sex in the case of masturbation, and it's also going to be capable of making the individual crave actual sexual activity with another, or want to involve them in it as well. This is where asexuals and sexuals trip up on one another. An asexual mentally links a fetish only to arousal. A fetish will never be able to make an asexual crave sex or serve as a substitution for sex to them. A sexual individual isn't able to immediately comprehend this concept because they've never experienced such a thing before.
The most complex topic is asexuals having sex. Part of this stems from the misconception that all asexuals are supposed to be averse to sex. The defining thing is that an asexual is unlikely to initiate a sexual encounter themselves. When asexuals have sex it tends to be because they know it will please their partner. They may find it awkward or prefer to avoid it sometimes, but they care enough for their partner that they're willing to move out of their comfort zone for their partner's sake. Society places a heavy pressure on having sex as a sign of a healthy relationship, and many asexuals, having already been pressured into a relationship or having grown very attached to someone end up engaging in sexual encounters. Generally an asexual views sex as a somewhat messy act that's far too much effort when they can just masturbate on their own.
Asexuals can form a relationship with someone else. That relationship can even advance so far as to be called love. An asexual doesn't feel the urge to have sex with someone, but that doesn't mean they don't love them and want to be close to them. It's so sad to know lots of people think an asexual can't love someone too. Asexuals tend to form very strong emotional bonds with the right person, often far more real than anything you see in most relationships between people today. They engage in sex because they don't want to deny their partner happiness.
On the topic of a fetish, I've seen it tossed around way too much that asexuals can't have them. Never mind that a fetish is as unnatural for a sexual individual as an asexual. I can't talk for everyone, but my fetishes for vore and navels were definitely a part of me way before puberty, and I think it's that way for a lot of other people too. I've picked up more fetishes over the years, but none will ever be as strong as those two for me. I honestly have no idea why I like them, but I know that they arouse me and that they are my only means for achieving it. I can't arouse myself with men or women. It takes my fetishes. The fact my fetishes have to involve entities with genders is irrelevant.
How exactly is one supposed to have a fetish where nothing ever has a gender exactly? That's certainly not very realistic and would ruin everything. I prefer males in my fantasy fetishes because i'm a male and have been comfortable with being a male all my life. Females are like an alien species to me and I want them nowhere in my fetishes if I can help it. I sure as hell have no intentions of imagining myself as a female! I'm not getting off with feelings directed at the individuals in my fantasies however. I'm getting off on the idea of the vore itself, or the idea of looking like one of them, or the theme of domination and submission, or any number of other things that have nothing to do with wanting sex with whatever creatures my mind has conjured up. This is the important difference that distinguishes an asexual's fetishes from a sexual's fetishes.
I've seen people say an asexual would just like sex if they tried it. I'm sure I could tell one of my asexual friends he's like masturbation if he just tried it, but that would be horribly rude and inconsiderate and completely ignore that fact he probably has his own perfectly reasonable circumstances to make him avoid such activity. There's so much wrong in saying an asexual would like sex if they just tried it. It may as well say 'You would like rape if you just tried it'. I can't think of many things that cause more revulsion than the thought of sexual intercourse with a man or woman in any position whatsoever. It would be rape no matter how you spun it. The fact such crude actions cause pleasure being a justification makes as much sense as saying rape victims who had an orgasm actually liked it. If I were to suddenly find an interest in sticking my bits in asses and vaginas, why even stop there? As long as it's warm and wet right? Why not a dog? A fresh corpse maybe? A burrito? Hell how about we go exotic and try a tree or a shark. It's like saying you the reader would like sex with whatever gender you aren't attracted to, or with one of the things I just listed. All you have to do is try it and you'll see! It's a completely absurd suggestion and anyone saying such a thing has not done any original thinking on the subject.
So that's my take on asexuality. I highly doubt that I've remembered to explain everything I wanted to, but doing such is a very difficult task given the size and complexity of the subject at hand. I encourage others to ask me questions, offer their own experiences and ideas, and test my logic. It's the only way I can further improve my explanation of asexuality and what it really is.
Asexuality explained
It seems no matter how often I answer questions people have about asexuals in threads, new ones always seem to come up again after a while. There's a loooooot of misinformation about this orientation out there, and disturbingly, many prejudices as well. I'm tired of explaining over and over, and I'm tired of being told by people who have no idea what they are talking about I must just have something wrong with me. My goal is to make this the end all-be all page I use to put everything on the table about asexuality in a manner which is near impossible to misinterpret.
What is asexuality?
Asexuality is a sexual orientation identified as an inherent absence of a direct sexual attraction to either male or female individuals. Asexuality cannot be caused by hormone problems, injuries, or diseases. While those things can cause conditions with similar effects, those are caused by outside factors and are not something one is necessarily born with outside of unfortunate diseases or deformities passed on in extremely rare cases.
How do you know you're an asexual?
For me, being asexual isn't something that was noticed as a sudden manifestation. In fact, if anything being asexual was something that made itself apparent simply by way of its lack of appearance. At a time when everyone else my age was starting to shift interests less towards the games we all used to play and more towards people of the opposite sex, I was finding myself in complete disunderstanding of what was going on with them because I was not experiencing such mental changes in the slightest.
I went through puberty physically pretty much like any adolescent, but I didn't feel anything towards others that could be called attraction. I simply had friends and acquaintances and that was it. I was even scared of and subtly rebuffed advances by the few females who actually took the initiative to express interest in me. It was during this period in middle school it really began to sink in that there was something different about me, and that my thoughts in late elementary school that I would simply catch up with the others my age later were not going to happen.
It was a very long time after that that I continued to live with the knowledge that I was different. In a world where you were supposed to be attracted to girls and get a girlfriend, I lived thinking something was wrong with me. When I thought that you could only be either attracted to girls, or guys, or both, and knew that I definitely wanted nothing to do with females, but was less uncomfortable around guys simply because I just happened to be a guy myself, I began to fear that it must surely mean I was gay, even if I honestly felt no attraction towards guys either. Lack of attraction or not, I was still more comfortable around them than girls, and at the time my mind translated that to mean I might be gay.
That terrified me. It wasn't that the idea of being gay in and of itself was terrifying to me; it was the idea that I might be attracted towards other guys in such a way. I never was of course, but at that age I wasn't capable of the level of psychological evaluation that I am now. A long, long time went by. Years spent in confusion, fear, and shame because I didn't know exactly what I was inside. I couldn't talk about girls. I had no idea which girl was hotter. My parents were really starting to push me to get a girlfriend and have them some grandchildren. I felt like I was failing them.
It wasn't until I was 18 and had the powers of the internet at my fingertips that I finally learned what I was inside. I read a word that burned itself deeply into my mind. A word that burned into the very center of the empty void inside me that needed an answer to a question it did not comprehend. The word was asexuality, and it filled that void and created a sense of self and direction I had not known since the blissful days of early childhood. I knew who I was now. I had a full identity without any missing pieces. I wasn't into guys and there were going to be no grandchildren. With relief filling my very being and lifting away the weight of a tension that only years of fear could burden me with I knew that there was a fourth orientation, and that it described exactly what I had been experiencing all those years.
What do you mean by prejudices and misunderstandings?
The human mind is an amazing thing. You can discover so much about yourself if you only take a look at your own mind and learn the secrets of your own mental processes. I think perhaps I could have had a career in psychology of some sort and maybe even enjoyed it. My learning experience has taught me however that the mind attempts to insert the most plausible answer to a logical question that it can think of. This answer will always be based on one's own personal experiences in life however. It's not often someone will say they don't know an answer, or suggest the answer is yet to be found when their own answer, however unlikely, appears to possibly fit the question.
This is the primary obstacle when it comes to making people understand what being asexual is. Just as I didn't have any idea how to understand myself when I thought the only possible sexualities were heterosexual, homosexual, and bisexual, most people have no idea how to understand how someone can be asexual when every moment of most of their life has been consumed by constant sexual urges and desires. Just like I needed someone to give me the answer I had been unable to reach on my own, it is necessary to make these people experience the paradigm shift necessary to facilitate the beginnings of understanding.
There's so many things people mistake for being a part of sexuality. The mind is able to take an idea, an emotion, a thought or thing, and link it to an emotion. We are able to enjoy the taste of food, savor the sound of music, or be thrilled by the rush of wind and horizon twisting weightlessness of a roller coaster. So many stimuli that different people translate different ways. What's mundane to one person could very well be a fetish for another! I find this amazing and think it allows me to explain things to a non asexual metaphorically.
I think the most infuriating thing I ever come across is when someone says you can't be an asexual and masturbate. The reason it infuriates me is simply because there's so many logical failings and assumptions in such a statement that my mind simply screams incoherently at the travesty of logic that such a statement is merely by being spoken and the web of further assumptions and misinformation it creates merely by existing. Righting such a very wrong statement is a complex beast and requires me to start with the basics as if with a child and work up from there and hope the reader has not lost track of the point as it progresses from infancy to unassailable counterstatement.
Asexuals come in two basic subgroups. Group A is asexuals who don't masturbate. Group B is asexuals who do masturbate. I've seen it suggested that group B isn't asexual. Frankly, I don't need a sexual individual trying to say I'm not asexual. Within these two groups, some of these asexuals even do have sex. There's a very explainable reason for this I can see even if I'm not one of the ones that does it, but basic points must be covered before the more complex ones.
Both groups can also have fetishes. I've also seen sexual individuals trying to say you can't be asexual and have a fetish. It's time to explain how all these seemingly sexual things can be experienced by an asexual. The most basic and obvious thing that really shouldn't have to be said but shall is that asexuals have perfectly functional and working genitalia. Due to this fact, asexuals are quite capable of feeling sexual pleasure. There is this strange idea that being asexual somehow means you must be incapable of having an erection despite the fact your hormones are working normally and your genitals are capable of sensing pleasure.
That's another point there; people seem to think an asexual must not be able to feel anything good down there. I don't really know how people can possibly think this, but I'm not to experienced with being ignorant either. Some asexuals don't seem to experience much or any pleasure from their genitals, but at this time I am unsure if this is from asexuality or merely a side effect of circumcision. It's a very, very sensitive topic and not the sort of thing I can comfortably talk about with others.
Now, as I said earlier, the mind is able to link unlike things together. A fetish is what happens when for inexplicable reasons the mind links something to an arousal trigger. In a normal sexual individual a fetish is also going to likely be linked to the 'sex' trigger. That is, exposure to a fetish is also going to be considered a suitable substitute for sex in the case of masturbation, and it's also going to be capable of making the individual crave actual sexual activity with another, or want to involve them in it as well. This is where asexuals and sexuals trip up on one another. An asexual mentally links a fetish only to arousal. A fetish will never be able to make an asexual crave sex or serve as a substitution for sex to them. A sexual individual isn't able to immediately comprehend this concept because they've never experienced such a thing before.
The most complex topic is asexuals having sex. Part of this stems from the misconception that all asexuals are supposed to be averse to sex. The defining thing is that an asexual is unlikely to initiate a sexual encounter themselves. When asexuals have sex it tends to be because they know it will please their partner. They may find it awkward or prefer to avoid it sometimes, but they care enough for their partner that they're willing to move out of their comfort zone for their partner's sake. Society places a heavy pressure on having sex as a sign of a healthy relationship, and many asexuals, having already been pressured into a relationship or having grown very attached to someone end up engaging in sexual encounters. Generally an asexual views sex as a somewhat messy act that's far too much effort when they can just masturbate on their own.
Asexuals can form a relationship with someone else. That relationship can even advance so far as to be called love. An asexual doesn't feel the urge to have sex with someone, but that doesn't mean they don't love them and want to be close to them. It's so sad to know lots of people think an asexual can't love someone too. Asexuals tend to form very strong emotional bonds with the right person, often far more real than anything you see in most relationships between people today. They engage in sex because they don't want to deny their partner happiness.
On the topic of a fetish, I've seen it tossed around way too much that asexuals can't have them. Never mind that a fetish is as unnatural for a sexual individual as an asexual. I can't talk for everyone, but my fetishes for vore and navels were definitely a part of me way before puberty, and I think it's that way for a lot of other people too. I've picked up more fetishes over the years, but none will ever be as strong as those two for me. I honestly have no idea why I like them, but I know that they arouse me and that they are my only means for achieving it. I can't arouse myself with men or women. It takes my fetishes. The fact my fetishes have to involve entities with genders is irrelevant.
How exactly is one supposed to have a fetish where nothing ever has a gender exactly? That's certainly not very realistic and would ruin everything. I prefer males in my fantasy fetishes because i'm a male and have been comfortable with being a male all my life. Females are like an alien species to me and I want them nowhere in my fetishes if I can help it. I sure as hell have no intentions of imagining myself as a female! I'm not getting off with feelings directed at the individuals in my fantasies however. I'm getting off on the idea of the vore itself, or the idea of looking like one of them, or the theme of domination and submission, or any number of other things that have nothing to do with wanting sex with whatever creatures my mind has conjured up. This is the important difference that distinguishes an asexual's fetishes from a sexual's fetishes.
I've seen people say an asexual would just like sex if they tried it. I'm sure I could tell one of my asexual friends he's like masturbation if he just tried it, but that would be horribly rude and inconsiderate and completely ignore that fact he probably has his own perfectly reasonable circumstances to make him avoid such activity. There's so much wrong in saying an asexual would like sex if they just tried it. It may as well say 'You would like rape if you just tried it'. I can't think of many things that cause more revulsion than the thought of sexual intercourse with a man or woman in any position whatsoever. It would be rape no matter how you spun it. The fact such crude actions cause pleasure being a justification makes as much sense as saying rape victims who had an orgasm actually liked it. If I were to suddenly find an interest in sticking my bits in asses and vaginas, why even stop there? As long as it's warm and wet right? Why not a dog? A fresh corpse maybe? A burrito? Hell how about we go exotic and try a tree or a shark. It's like saying you the reader would like sex with whatever gender you aren't attracted to, or with one of the things I just listed. All you have to do is try it and you'll see! It's a completely absurd suggestion and anyone saying such a thing has not done any original thinking on the subject.
So that's my take on asexuality. I highly doubt that I've remembered to explain everything I wanted to, but doing such is a very difficult task given the size and complexity of the subject at hand. I encourage others to ask me questions, offer their own experiences and ideas, and test my logic. It's the only way I can further improve my explanation of asexuality and what it really is.
I'm glad you're content with yourself nowadays, nobody should be ashamed of themselves just because sex doesn't interest them.
Frankly, I was a similar case to you when I was young...
Just, with me, it was pretty mucht he otehr way around, getting from believing myself to be kinda (asexual with fetishes) to getting to embrace my homosexuality.^^
I luckily got to it a bit earlier than you in the end, but I guess it was mostly the fact that I ended up reading a couple of pro homosexual stories which gradually opened me to that possibility about myself...
I have through my time on the net come across a whole gamut of rather peculiar sexual orientations, ranging from people who are only attracted to one gender in real life but into both in furry settings, to people who are kinda real life asexual and very varying degrees of bisexuality (which I have to admit also is something occasionally puzzling me^^).
I think the main problem with people not understanding asexuality though is that, well, hardly anything is publicly available about it.
And the evry definition is not that clear.
Like, your asexuality is apparently different from one who is truly not experiencing any kind of arousing /sexual (depending hwo you define that) stimulus. I think the problem is that asexuality has become a bit of a blanket term to lump together quite different kinds of alternative sexuality (or lack thereoff)and thus, of course people get confused.
I think I don't understand though where exactly you see the differences in fetishes...
I mean, as far as you explained it, vore, the thougth of being eaten, consumed and dominated arouses you and can lead to orgasm.
For most people into vore I know (who are mostly bisexuals or homosexuals), the same is true.
Not all of my RP partners and friends need sex before or during vore, though most of them do enjoy it.
I mean, since very occasionally the vore aspect of a male / female picture can appeal to me, i can say myself that the fetish and the orientation are not totally dependent on each other.
What would interest me though...
During a, well, sexual fantasy of vore or your mentioned navel fetish, how do you preceive the predator / prey or owner of the navel?
I mean, it is clear that you don't feel the desire for sex with them apparently, but it makes me curious. For example, would it be about correct to compare it to what I#d feel towards, say, a predator which falls outside my own spectrum of creatures seen as potential sexual partners (a slime, a plant, most snakes) or is there a different feeling for you when it is a human / anthro predator (but not necesarily a sentient one) than there is when it is a thing much more alien?
You know, reading this, I think it might perhaps be helpful to deconstruct our notion of fetishes and sexual orientations as a seperate type of thing and instead group both as the sexualization of a certain category of things...
I mean, an asexual who has the, for most people sexual reaction of arousal to a certain act, object or thing that is not a male or female, then perhaps labelling that person asexual, so to say, removed, distanced fro sexuality as a whole , is not quite correct, or what would you say?
I mean, you do mention of how a sexual persons every waking minute is consumed by sexual urges and thus such a person cannot understand an asexual...
But then again, do you, if you do feel arousal to vore and navels, not feel exual urges and feelings, and with that I mean arousal, when you see stimuli related to your fetishes?
I mean, you do mention explicitly that asexuality is not necessarily about not feeling any kind of sensation from your nether regions, but then, what does make an asexual of your nature different from a homo, bi or heterosexual person aside from the object of arousal, so to say?
I mean, as a gay person, for whom there is not really any "default mode" of sexuality (not all gays are into anal sex and contrary to popular opinion, it is not that being gay just menas you exchange afemale vagina for a male anus), the further step of de associating arousal with the wish to engage in genital contact with another person is not so outlandish.
What would interest me is whether the whole mechanism of gratification is basically identical or if there are some further differences beyond the mere fact that genital contact with a member of any sex is not appealing or sexually stimulating to you?
I have some theories on the first one. It's my guess that a person may find certain (furry)traits so appealing that the constant exposure to them online through art can make them experience an interest in the opposite gender of the one they normally associate with. This is partially facilitated by the fact that everything can be imagined as they specifically like, so persons with at least some slight bisexuality in them can exhibit a shift when online that simply doesn't work for them in real life. Additionally, some of it may be related to the insertion of self into an image where the person finds they associate with a particular gender more because they imagine themselves as or wish they had the features of a particular subject. I can't really know how right I am in these ideas as I'll never be able to really get into the head of someone else to find out.
I think the main problem with people not understanding asexuality though is that, well, hardly anything is publicly available about it.
And the evry definition is not that clear.
Like, your asexuality is apparently different from one who is truly not experiencing any kind of arousing /sexual (depending hwo you define that) stimulus. I think the problem is that asexuality has become a bit of a blanket term to lump together quite different kinds of alternative sexuality (or lack thereoff)and thus, of course people get confused.
It's not really that asexuality hasn't been defined, but that it simply hasn't really even been identified as existing within any real world sources such as books or media. The main reason is that asexuals aren't being repressed in society and they're not a controversial topic really. Asexuals aren't really doing anything that would get them any notice. Since it's not often an asexual actually talks about it to others most people don't know about them at all. At its basic core asexuality can be defined as 'to be lacking in instinctual sexual drive towards other persons in absence of choice or medical conditions'. While there are great variances among all of the people who fit into that category, it is simply their lack of feeling an urgency to engage in sexual encounters that ties them together. Whether they have fetishes or not, or feel more comfortable around a particular gender is actually irrelevant since they already share that one important differentiation.
I think I don't understand though where exactly you see the differences in fetishes...
I mean, as far as you explained it, vore, the thougth of being eaten, consumed and dominated arouses you and can lead to orgasm.
For most people into vore I know (who are mostly bisexuals or homosexuals), the same is true.
Not all of my RP partners and friends need sex before or during vore, though most of them do enjoy it.
I mean, since very occasionally the vore aspect of a male / female picture can appeal to me, i can say myself that the fetish and the orientation are not totally dependent on each other.
I'm of the belief a fetish can be enjoyed without having to tie into sexual urges towards a particular gender, but I've run into quite a lot of people who are unable to separate a fetish from being their equivalent of sex with a particular gender and automatically assume that since I have a fetish I must have to have a sexual orientation of some sort and not be asexual. What I was doing was trying to make that group understand that they can be separated from one another, as if they don't accept that a fetish can work all by itself, then I won't be getting anywhere with explaining it all to them.
What would interest me though...
During a, well, sexual fantasy of vore or your mentioned navel fetish, how do you preceive the predator / prey or owner of the navel?
I mean, it is clear that you don't feel the desire for sex with them apparently, but it makes me curious. For example, would it be about correct to compare it to what I#d feel towards, say, a predator which falls outside my own spectrum of creatures seen as potential sexual partners (a slime, a plant, most snakes) or is there a different feeling for you when it is a human / anthro predator (but not necesarily a sentient one) than there is when it is a thing much more alien?
Oh this is a good question; I can only hope I can get what makes perfect sense in my head out onto the screen.
I will assume by sexual fantasy you mean something I am imagining rather than roleplay of some sort. In a fantasy I'm actually multitasking in a way, because I can put myself into the place of either of the two participants, and also play the role of observer as well. As to how I perceive them there's a few factors. What I really like is things that fit into my inherent preferences for features on a fantasized creature. If they're anthropomorphic then I tend to like them being somewhat toned and slim, especially the predator in a vore scenario, and I tend to like anything that simply appears like it could predate on others easily. If it's something feral I tend to like it to have much heavier muscling and even more enhanced predatory features such as fangs or claws. I always perceive things as male in my fantasies because as a male myself I have no interest in imagining myself as a female in whatever I'm fantasizing about. When I like putting myself in the places of all the participants that's how it has to be.
Amusingly, things like snakes, plants, and slimes are generally uninteresting to me because they don't possess the right features to be appealing predators(or prey) to me. I don't have sexual interests in characters, but I definitely have this strange sense of 'good predator' or 'good to eat' hardcoded into me. It's a case of 'Would I like to look like and be that thing?'. It's not to say I can't like vore involving the uninteresting things, but I won't like it nearly as much because I'm not stacking as many fetishes/interests on top of one another at once and because I don't want to imagine being the less appealing things in the fantasy.
You know, reading this, I think it might perhaps be helpful to deconstruct our notion of fetishes and sexual orientations as a seperate type of thing and instead group both as the sexualization of a certain category of things...
I mean, an asexual who has the, for most people sexual reaction of arousal to a certain act, object or thing that is not a male or female, then perhaps labelling that person asexual, so to say, removed, distanced fro sexuality as a whole , is not quite correct, or what would you say?
One thing I have been trying to advocate is indeed separating fetishes and sexuality because I really don't feel they go together too closely except where one can fit in their regular sexual interests with a fetish, but then if you can pretend for a moment normal sexual interests are a sort of fetish themselves(the 'natural' fetish), then it's merely a case of combining together multiple parts of one's likes at the same time.
Asexuals tend to fixate on particular things that for some reason arouse them. I don't know why because I don't know why we even have fetishes at all. An idea or situation can be arousing to an asexual, but it is merely the idea or situation itself that is arousing them, and their arousal is directed towards that idea or situation and not the characters within.
I think an asexual is actually distanced from sexuality, or at least sexuality as it's currently thought of. An asexual is perfectly capable of feeling sexual pleasure but either is uninterested in feeling it, takes care of it on their own, or engages with someone else because they want to make the other person feel good and be happy. An asexual isn't necessarily going to feel an aversion to sex, but they often feel it's too much effort to be worth it when they can take care of it themselves far more easily and not have to drag another person into it. It's important to understand the concept that every person barring a very few is capable of feeling sexual pleasure. How they go about getting it is what varies, but I'd go so far as to say it would be highly abnormal for every asexual not to satisfy themselves privately once in a while. An asexual's libido is directed towards their fetishes pretty much. Once an asexual figures out how good masturbation feels, they're going to want to do it again in the future, and they simply use fetishes rather than people most of the time. If not a fetish, they can also arouse themselves simply on the knowledge of what doing it feels like too.
I mean, you do mention of how a sexual persons every waking minute is consumed by sexual urges and thus such a person cannot understand an asexual...
But then again, do you, if you do feel arousal to vore and navels, not feel exual urges and feelings, and with that I mean arousal, when you see stimuli related to your fetishes?
I mean, you do mention explicitly that asexuality is not necessarily about not feeling any kind of sensation from your nether regions, but then, what does make an asexual of your nature different from a homo, bi or heterosexual person aside from the object of arousal, so to say?
I mean, as a gay person, for whom there is not really any "default mode" of sexuality (not all gays are into anal sex and contrary to popular opinion, it is not that being gay just menas you exchange afemale vagina for a male anus), the further step of de associating arousal with the wish to engage in genital contact with another person is not so outlandish.
To become aroused by my fetishes I need to specifically want to be aroused by them. I can and have enjoyed them lots of times without needing to be aroused because I actually like them inherently. Have since probably at least third grade, and they definitely couldn't arouse me back then. When I said that a sexual individual's time is constantly spent with sexual urges it was meant to explain how they may merely never have thought that a lot of things can be unlinked from their urges towards a particular gender because they themselves had never done so.
What makes me different from a hetero, homo, or bi is merely that I don't associate arousal or pleasure with a gender. If you imagine interests towards a gender as simply another fetish, you see that it's all merely a spectrum of things that can trigger arousal for a person. The only discernable difference between the asexual and someone else is that disinterest in having arousal to a gender, and how that can make both of them view the same fetish in different ways. A normally sexual person is quite capable of viewing a fetish in the same way an asexual does too, but they usually don't, because why would you not like having a particular gender in your fantasies if it aroused you? It would be like if I decided to fantasize about vore using humans even though I like furries in it a lot more. I could do it, but it wouldn't make much sense.
What would interest me is whether the whole mechanism of gratification is basically identical or if there are some further differences beyond the mere fact that genital contact with a member of any sex is not appealing or sexually stimulating to you?
I think the system of gratification is identical in the sense that a particular thing can be found to be arousing and used to achieve gratification. That thing may be a gender, a particular idea, or a scenario. It gets more muddled and confusing when people try to put gender interests in a different category or associate gender interests with fetishes when it's really simply a case of a person putting multiple arousal triggers together at once. In any of the 'adult' situations in any of my stories or roleplays, the reason I've engaged in them is because I want to please the other roleplayer, or because I really like submissive situations where there isn't much choice(kind of like vore). There's definite things I won't play out such as actual sex, but I'm willing to go out of my normal comfort zone when the idea behind it is what arouses me or because i want to make it more enjoyable for the roleplaying partner. Obviously another person with the same interests but not asexual would be engaging in those situations for the same reasons, but also because they went into it looking for that as well. Both myself and the theoretical almost identical person get the same gratification out of most of the things, but the other person gets a little more because they wanted to seek out the adult situation in the roleplay where I didn't and might have taken it further.
Hehe, the last one reminds me of how I used to rationalize my attraction to the male body when I was in my early teens...^^
...that is liekly why I usually think it simply does mean you are bisexual to some degree anyway and that, likely, you don't see many real life examples of the gender you usually don't like so that the attraction to (usually the same) sex remains an online only thing.
I mean,it doesn't mean you should or even would really enjoy to pursue the usually not desired sex in real life, but then again, people do tend to form a kind of mental block regarding such things and I do know some cases who simply slowly shifted from self proclamied straight to full out bi in the end.
...or the other way around, as a friend of mine has shown me.^^
I mean, usually, there is not really such a big difference between fictional and real stuff in it's basic nature of appeal, even though of course fictional stuff might greatly differ through it's qualities.
If you only for example like extremely effeminate, delicate guys, or any other specific and / or rare type, you might never find any real human to satisfy your standards.
{quote]It's not really that asexuality hasn't been defined, but that it simply hasn't really even been identified as existing within any real world sources such as books or media. The main reason is that asexuals aren't being repressed in society and they're not a controversial topic really. Asexuals aren't really doing anything that would get them any notice. Since it's not often an asexual actually talks about it to others most people don't know about them at all. At its basic core asexuality can be defined as 'to be lacking in instinctual sexual drive towards other persons in absence of choice or medical conditions'. While there are great variances among all of the people who fit into that category, it is simply their lack of feeling an urgency to engage in sexual encounters that ties them together. Whether they have fetishes or not, or feel more comfortable around a particular gender is actually irrelevant since they already share that one important differentiation.
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I rather meant, defined for the general public. Or to be more precise, defined satisfactorily for the general public, the general notion of what asexuality is involves many of the misconceptions you mentioned.
And, true, unlike homosexuality, asexuality manifests only in an outward behaviour which is within the accepted norms of our christian society.
I'm of the belief a fetish can be enjoyed without having to tie into sexual urges towards a particular gender, but I've run into quite a lot of people who are unable to separate a fetish from being their equivalent of sex with a particular gender and automatically assume that since I have a fetish I must have to have a sexual orientation of some sort and not be asexual. What I was doing was trying to make that group understand that they can be separated from one another, as if they don't accept that a fetish can work all by itself, then I won't be getting anywhere with explaining it all to them.
I can strongly agree with that notion, I see examples of it all the time and if this wasn't the case, I couldn't really enjoy vore with a predator who was anything other than a male of at least certain human characteristics.
...though I admit that I don't see the point in vore roleplay, the typical single encounter style with all plot being pretty much just to set up a fatal encounter, if it lacks a certain sexualisation myself. Or should I rather say, a certain sensuality?
Ideally, a vore RP should capture the mixture of overwhelming and unusual sensory impressions of being subject (or I guess subjecting someone else) to the act and also the very intense emotional responses, adrenaline, fear, the sense of finality, helplessness subjugation and of course physical arousal due all those.^.~
Ah, but that reminds me of something I would be a bit curious about I guess. Vore rather often does feature prey (and preds) being sexually stimulated by the swallowing act, like having an orgasm on the pred's tongue - or on the other hand, preds jerking off after eating their meal.
I was wondering if stuff like that would already fall out of your, or other asexuals comfort zone because it is close to sex with the other person or not because it is pretty much having your character mirror your own reaction.
Oh this is a good question; I can only hope I can get what makes perfect sense in my head out onto the screen.
I will assume by sexual fantasy you mean something I am imagining rather than roleplay of some sort. In a fantasy I'm actually multitasking in a way, because I can put myself into the place of either of the two participants, and also play the role of observer as well. As to how I perceive them there's a few factors. What I really like is things that fit into my inherent preferences for features on a fantasized creature. If they're anthropomorphic then I tend to like them being somewhat toned and slim, especially the predator in a vore scenario, and I tend to like anything that simply appears like it could predate on others easily. If it's something feral I tend to like it to have much heavier muscling and even more enhanced predatory features such as fangs or claws. I always perceive things as male in my fantasies because as a male myself I have no interest in imagining myself as a female in whatever I'm fantasizing about. When I like putting myself in the places of all the participants that's how it has to be.
Amusingly, things like snakes, plants, and slimes are generally uninteresting to me because they don't possess the right features to be appealing predators(or prey) to me. I don't have sexual interests in characters, but I definitely have this strange sense of 'good predator' or 'good to eat' hardcoded into me. It's a case of 'Would I like to look like and be that thing?'. It's not to say I can't like vore involving the uninteresting things, but I won't like it nearly as much because I'm not stacking as many fetishes/interests on top of one another at once and because I don't want to imagine being the less appealing things in the fantasy.
Hmh, I think the basic difference lies in the fact that you indeed slip into each of the roles. Contrary to that, I always focus on completely slipping into the role of one character, usually the prey of course. On an amusing sidenote, I also always have been a bit ill at ease with games where you'd constantly be switching back and force between characters. My ideal game / roleplay / fantasy is always about taken the role of one character who is as close as possible to what I am or would like to be.^.~
From my own attempts at pretending the one was the other, I do know that appeal of something you'd want to be can be close to appeal of something you feel sexual attraction to...
Which brings me to the point, how does romantic attraction work for for asexuals, or you precisely?
Does being asexual, in your case, just eliminate the wish for sexual interaction, physical intimacy or any infatuation on a physical basis? I feel a bit hesitant just comparing it directly to how I would feel about my undesired sex, females, because I guess that my exclusive homosexuality might have left me still a bit in the phase of finding the female body a bit alienating, i.e. even when it is just platonic physical affection, I would feel more inclined towards it when it is a man.
How is this part for you?^^
One thing I have been trying to advocate is indeed separating fetishes and sexuality because I really don't feel they go together too closely except where one can fit in their regular sexual interests with a fetish, but then if you can pretend for a moment normal sexual interests are a sort of fetish themselves(the 'natural' fetish), then it's merely a case of combining together multiple parts of one's likes at the same time.
Asexuals tend to fixate on particular things that for some reason arouse them. I don't know why because I don't know why we even have fetishes at all. An idea or situation can be arousing to an asexual, but it is merely the idea or situation itself that is arousing them, and their arousal is directed towards that idea or situation and not the characters within.
I think an asexual is actually distanced from sexuality, or at least sexuality as it's currently thought of. An asexual is perfectly capable of feeling sexual pleasure but either is uninterested in feeling it, takes care of it on their own, or engages with someone else because they want to make the other person feel good and be happy. An asexual isn't necessarily going to feel an aversion to sex, but they often feel it's too much effort to be worth it when they can take care of it themselves far more easily and not have to drag another person into it. It's important to understand the concept that every person barring a very few is capable of feeling sexual pleasure. How they go about getting it is what varies, but I'd go so far as to say it would be highly abnormal for every asexual not to satisfy themselves privately once in a while. An asexual's libido is directed towards their fetishes pretty much. Once an asexual figures out how good masturbation feels, they're going to want to do it again in the future, and they simply use fetishes rather than people most of the time. If not a fetish, they can also arouse themselves simply on the knowledge of what doing it feels like too.
Well, as I said, I see them both more like modular pieces which can be combined, but also stand on their own.
Well, strictly speaking, if you see a fetish just a sexualising a certain concept or object, then indeed, sexual orientation is just the most basic fetish.
Some people simply do lack the basic fetish towards the opposite sex of their own species, or have it overshadowed by other things which appeal to them.
Mostly, yourexplanations seem to go in that direction, but occasionally, I do stumble over certain things which do seem like there is a bit more of a difference as well, or is that more a matter of not quite unambiguous formulation?
For example, the part about "only beinga roused by them if I want to", that seems rather different from, well, how I would feel when receiving the stimulus of both an attractive male or something touching the fetishes I have. I never would have thought of beinga roused by a fetish as even remotely a conscious thing, to be truthful.
Also, the part about fetishes in childhood and arousal would differ for me...
I also think you are getting a bit too abstract about the unlinking of certain things from the urges towards the desired sex, could you be a bit more specific?
The second aprt, again, I can completely agree with you however, especially since I have some interests, like vore, where there isn't necessarily a "gendered" partner, though, as you said, it is indeed always a bonus to have another fetish or your sexual orientation add to the fun. Just, I do think that especially in the fetish rich furry community, there should be no shortage of people who have fetishes they can well enjoy without their sexual orientation having to play a part in it.
Hmh, so, in conclusion, it does seem, indeed, that overall I can walk away with the knowledge that the main distinction is really just the lack of an arousal trigger towards any gender....
But there also seems to be a good deal more in the details as well...
For example, you did mention about some asexuals being somewhat okay with engaging in sex (a bit like someone playing out a kink he doesn't share but neither has any objections against), while there is a discomfort with sex in general that does indeed seem to reach up to people not even engaging in any autosexual activity (masturbation)...
I have to admit, reading this, I seriously do wonder how many asexuals are actually out there...^^
Or if asexuals usually do have fetishes or if there are many people outisde of certain medical conditions who truly have no arousal trigger at all...
I'm tempted to just start throwing what you wrote at certain people. It may not be 100% the same for me, but it's still much better than any of my previous attempts at putting it into words.
Kudos to you, Avereth, for taking the time to educate and explain!
so... this is probably the wrong time to ask for a blowjob, huh?
so... this is probably the wrong time to ask for a blowjob, huh?
You'll have to make him feel like you deserve it. :P
Your post was an interesting thing to read. I find myself regularly examining my behaviors, and I have uncertainties, but I'm comfortable with ambiguity. My own preferences are not related much to gender, but I am not asexual.
Relationships are the important thing with or without sex. Hormones tend to confuse this issue, though :P
Relationships should be more grounded in everything BUT sex, or they're only going to be based upon it. It really doesn't surprise me that as the judge of a relationship has become more and more how much sex you're having that divorce rates have climbed perhaps to 50%.
That might have a factor if the people in the relationship are using that metric too much, but I'm pretty sure that's not really the problem.
Sexual chemistry is hyped up, and people will tolerate a lot of annoying things while the sex is good. However, the sex doesn't usually stay good! At least, not without quite a bit of effort. So, people lose their tolerance for each other and would rather try their luck elsewhere than make it work.
I think the rising divorce rates are more likely related to naivety, laziness, and strange expectations. (That's a good story title, by the way "Naivety, Laziness and Strange Expectations")
I suppose you do have a point on how spoiled people are getting with their expectations though.
(and it would make for an interesting title!)
Firstly, on the point you make about people freaking over an asexual masturbating. Being asexual does not mean being celibate. In fact, I'm perfectly comfortable with my own body (Hence being a fatass. XD) though I don't masturbate myself. Some asexuals still take pleasure from the act of doing it by themselves, on their own penises/vaginas. I'm not one, thus I am in subgroup A.
I can also vouch for the fetish thing. I have a huge navel fetish that spans a wide range of different activities that I do take mental enjoyment from in the closest thing to being sexual enjoyment I can think of. And yes, I can admit it gives me an erection... But it's literally the only thing in life that does. I can stare at cocks, vaginas, and boobs, some of the "best" that can be found, and they do nothing. They give me zero in the way of that same enjoyment. In fact, I take no enjoyment from the sight of them, and even recoil a bit. If not combined with a navel in the picture that I can enjoy, I will close or look away from the material immediately.
In addition, on your point with the sexuals versus asexuals and their pleasure versus sex trigger, I think a simple enough explanation is the following: While both feel arousal, the asexual doesn't feel a urge to stick his penis somewhere.
Going to that point about genders and fetishes, hell yes, you hit the nail on the head. I could care less if the character was discernably male or female, hell, it wouldn't matter to me if I couldn't tell what the sex was, or if it even had a sex to begin with. In fact, I believe that it's nearly impossible for the human mind to imagine anything that does not have a sex, similarly like it's hard for so many to imagine a being without sexual attraction. I'm not saying it is impossible, just nearly so.
And, of course, the last point. I have tried masturbation and have gotten nothing out of it, nothing at all. Hell, if anything, it made my erection disappear without any semen appearing. Also, why not sex with a beehive? That would have to be the best thing ever. Ooh, what about a blender, or a garbage disposal? Or getting oral from a lamprey?
One thing I've heard several times that quite annoys me is the argument that asexuals are just questioning and it's some sort of psychological issue and not a true lack of attraction because said people think of it as impossible. It's not quite the stigma the LGBT community gets but it's honestly not a whole lot better, either. I've dealt with it only a couple times, thankfully. Most people I know don't try to argue on a subject they don't understand. I understand skepticism to a point, due to my own experiences I've been unsure myself..I don't have much drive but every once in a while my body acts on it's own (the only time I've actually ejaculated, honestly)..eh. I'll work it out. I don't envy not being sexual at *all* though. :p
Even if you're unsure, you'll come to a conclusion eventually. As for my body doing it, it's only when I get wet dreams, and I can't stand it. It's a wet, sticky mess that smells like rotting fish, and then it burns when I piss for a few hours. D:
That said, I do have one thought/question that's always been on my mind since I first heard the term asexual used for anything other than a type of reproduction. I've always wondered, is it remotely possible that in some cases someone calling themselves asexual simply have not (or cannot) encounter a situation that would be sexually appealing to them? What I mean is, and granted it's total relative fantasy, if there are infinite dimensions and realities, could one of them hold such an ideal situation? For example, I am bisexual, but truth-be-told when it comes to people I have little or even no sexual attraction whatsoever to either gender; were I to be transported magically to a realm where anthropomorphic beings actually existed, I just might be the opposite. I suppose this thought is kind of already answered with the next-to-last paragraph; it's just that this thinking makes me feel that it's possible asexual folk are actually bisexual due to indifference to gender (rather than attraction to both) - our reality simply lacks the ability to provide them a situation where they'd be personally interested in sexual interaction. Feel free to bonk me on the head if I'm being stupid, too. XD It's all out in la-la land, as far as reality is concerned asexual is an appropriate and misunderstood term and your journal was a good read. :)
Well your question really would depend upon the asexual. As I stated above, not all asexuals have a necessarily negative view towards having sex, but it's not exactly at the top of their list of priorities either. Some asexuals, with the right person and the right reasons will engage in sex, and might enjoy it more for other reasons than the actual act itself. Asexuals really can't find people sexually appealing, but can tend to find enjoyment in ideas that stem from fetishes. The thing about fantasy scenarios is that everything can be made to be perfect in them and this is a large part of why people can often find themselves getting into a lot of new things through them. I wouldn't call an asexual bisexual however. The reasons for an asexual to partake in sex are highly abnormal and require an outside source to want it since they are never going to try to initiate it on their own. There's a distinct difference between indifference to gender and not preferring one gender more than the other.
In my own case, there is no possible scenario that could make me want to have actual sex with someone, fantasy or reality. In fantasy I can tolerate characters lending a hand with masturbating or the occasional blowjob, but they only happen within extremely limiting factors and invariably have to involve a lot of fetish content or it's not going to happen. Some people would class these things as counting as sex, but because of the above limiting circumstances to me they equate to something fairly different since my character isn't ever going to actively seek to engage in them. You could say I'm attracted to making the other character happy by engaging in such activity in roleplays.
Religions, the same can be seen, (Pagans hating on Christians, but begging for acceptance, and the other way around)
Sexuality (As stated here)
Even groups that are of strange mindsets (Most of the time, such as furry wanting to be accepted, but when in groups of them, heard bashing on the 'normal' people)
It would take some major changes within the world to see discriminating against others dissapear. But would make for a much more lovely world.
I am glad to have read this journal, and know that there are many like every sort of individual out there, and there needs to be a safer way for them to come out as what they are, and who they are, it is a sad thing to see all the hatred. I wish there were more like you out there, with the courage to put up what they are and explain it, so that others might be able to find the courage to accept themselves.
I would certainly like to encourage more people to make the effort to explain why they are how they are and not expect people to just unconditionally accept them for how they are when they don't even understand it yet.
I must point out saying I am a 'weirdo' is a fairly incorrect use of the word given the way it tends to be used in this day and age. You see it's not just me who is like what I have described, but between one and three percent of the total population that is asexual. What I described is not a highly abnormal fetish fixation but the way asexuals actually mentally operate. You must not brush off a sexual orientation as simply being a 'weirdo'. A lot of what I've posted has been talked to with other asexuals to confirm if I am on the right track to explaining the whole thing to the general public. Just as it would be improper to call someone a weirdo for being homosexual, it's just as improper to call an asexual a weirdo. While I am going against the social norm, I am not doing so by choice, so the word really doesn't fit. It's incorrect ideas like that I've posted this journal to start fixing. :)
Too much info? Information creates context, and context allows someone to understand something that they previously were having trouble grasping. Only if they are willing to try to understand it however. If I'm trying to correct someone I do so with as much relevant information as I can to not only show what I want to correct but also why I want to correct it or show why it is wrong.
although do yourself a favor and do let out some steam once in a while
I'm not entirely sure what led you to the belief that I am numb to things around me and need to let off steam however. I entirely brush off a lot of stuff other people don't, but actual misinformation is something that I simply see as a wrong to be corrected. Everyone should strive to decrease ignorance in their own small way. I do suppress negative emotions, but alternatively I do not experience them very strongly anyway since it would take some really messed up stuff to get me actually angry at someone. My perspective is a bit different than a lot of people on how important negative encounters actually are in the grand scheme of things. I also very much express emotions through my writing in ways I might shy away from in real life. If I need to blow off steam there are plenty of games I can play cooperatively with other people to enjoy as well. Not everyone is susceptible to dramatically changing based upon their emotions or is really overly controlled by them.
its not healthy to go numb all the time or else it can really mess with your emotions as a result of high stress from your hormones
If you were implying that my hormones are going to cause some sort of sexual irritation then I'm not sure you understand what an asexual is yet. I don't experience sexual attractions to other people because I'm entirely incapable of experiencing them. There is no itch to scratch, so to speak, as I'm not denying myself anything.
i just stopped getting to technical in explaining this n that to people cuz to be honest, that really doesnt work much
If people are not willing to make the effort to read an intelligent rendition of what being asexual is I'm never going to dumb it down for them. If you simplify something too much then it becomes easier to misunderstand it. A few bullet points could never give the context needed to really make it make sense. All it takes is for even one person to gain understanding for it to be worth it. The more people who understand it, the more difficult it is to be a person who still doesn't understand it. It's kind of disheartening to know people are going to question the legitimacy of your very sexual orientation throughout your life simplybecause they want to resist anything new and confusing without ever thinking to try to learn about it before they judge it.
sure it may get to SOME but not all of them and eventually kind of pisses off more people than enlightening them XD so in a way i just tend to keep things to myself...
I'll never apologize if someone gets angry at me for explaining things. That's as nonsensical as a child being angry when their parent explains why something they did was wrong. Someone with the mindset of thinking they are always right is going to run into issues with me because I have no problem countering their reasoning with my own. I will gladly change my views on something if someone can present me with logic that is superior to my own on the subject as it's only right. That has yet to happen on this current subject because unsurprisingly, the logic offered by the skeptics is terribly flawed. You should never feel so intimidated by the possibility of backlash that you avoid trying to enlighten others. People are afraid of change and fight against it to keep their logical world exactly as it currently is, even if they are intentionally excluding things just as logical as everything they already know. I'm going to put the word out about asexuality whether people want me to or not. It's their choice to read it and respond after all, but they have to be ready for the consequences of doing so. :)
I feel a bit more confident now, and will be bookmarking this for future reference. Thank you!
I'm glad this made you feel better!
Is Asexual simply a lack of orientation for a specific gender? Because, I have fetishes and I do feel more attracted to males than I am to females (I am female) while fantasizing, but I have no interest whatsoever in sex or genitalia. Is there a different term for people who are, to a 'non sexual' extent, attracted to males and no interest in sex , genitalia or relationships?
What's the difference between Pansexuals and Asexuals?
Because from what I've read about both groups, I can relate partially to both... so shall I brand myself Asexual (basically what I've done until I found out about Pan's) or do I actually fit in amongst the Pansexuals?
If you would kindly?
Basically if you're asexual you're never going to want to take a relationship to the point of sex, unless it's entirely for the other person's benefit. A pansexual is probably just as likely to want to advance a relationship as the other person.
Dunno if that makes you want to change/alter your above statement...
Asexuals, should they choose to engage in a relationship, are more attached by a personality than by a gender a lot of the time. Some asexuals are more comfortable with one gender or another for various reasons however. So in a way it bears a similar tie, but not all asexuals are necessarily going to feel equally towards both genders.
The best way to understand whether you are asexual or pansexual is to simply ask yourself if you would ever be the one to attempt to initiate sexual aspects of a relationship. If yes then you're probably pansexual. If no or if you feel like you'd only do it if a partner asked, you're probably asexual.
Thanks... I think I'll stick with asexual for now then
Thanks for doing my work for me though, but how did you happen to find my journal by chance? :3
Would you mind if I shared this with others to help them understand?
I'd not mind it being spread around. It was even featured on the
I'd pretty much ruled out being asexual given that my favorites page contains a good number of pictures with nothing directly to do with vore, and my stories have a fairly large amount of sex between the vore scenes. But it was also seemed kind of counter intuitive to say I was bi when I don't feel any actual attraction to the characters outside of how appealing they are as either a predator or prey.
I've reconsidered my sexuality a few times in the past, (Your 'I'm not straight so obviously I must be gay' example certainly rings a bell) so I've no idea if this will be the one to stick, but it certainly feels like a better description for me than bisexual was.
Thank you again for posting this. It's informative, clear and very well put.