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dog fuckers live in NJ. gross.    

By KaijuQueen, 3 years ago
yep. so i went to work this morning and some freak came intoday, fat.neckbeard, pull over hoodie with a sterotypical woflie furry with RED AND BLUE EYES. anyway he had a golden with him and as he passed the dog off to me he was jokeing with my boss how "hes such a hottie" "he has a tight ass" "hes packing" "hes a PLEASSSSSSURE to be around" . mind you. hes not hitting on my boss, hes reffering to his dog. but whatever i bring the dog into the back and i stared alittle, his nose seemed off to the side. like it was squished. so i picked up the dog to put him on the table makeing him yelp AND OH MY GOD. this hurts to repeat it.

his lower left jaw was broken and separated from the right side.
part of the nose was pushed in on one side.
the sheath on the dog had been cut back, the whole area swollen and dripping puss.
the penis itself was dried and cracked, was bloody.
his anal glands were impacted.
the anus was.. well it looked like a blown out ear lobes, just more puss filled and dried blood.
the dog tried to make a movement (restroom) makeing him scream and flail in pain.

what. the . fuck.

i called my boss back and well he called the police and animal group quickly, they examined the dog, finding his pelvic bone was also 'not in the right place', the skin around his nails was all pushed back and there was nail marks around the dogs neck, it was under weight, dehydrated and they mentioned they would most likely have to put the dog down.

the police found the guy quickly i heard. but what a shame. i hate people. what makes you think this is a good idea to do this to your dog?


EDIT GUYS:

i expected to get like two comments on this and everyone to shrug this off so THANKS FOR CAREING REALLY. this has been fucking the inside of my skull since it happened and im happy other people feel the same way i do.

unfortatenly i cannot tell you anything about the guy, i do not know his name. i do not think hes 'bashing' furries. i have a description of the character on his shirt? but its pretty bland. -white 'wolf' red and blue eyes. an X on its chest and a curly tail-. im sure many people have similar things so dont go attacking people.

i will also not know ANYTHING untill i go to work Saturday. including the guys name and the fate of him and the dog. i may have to make a statement and testify if this goes to court.

again a huge thanks for everyone who is reposting this. i appreciated you all linking back to me and showing me the link aswell.

OK edit again:

i never asked anyone to repost this, i mean, if it bothers you, you wanna rant about it sure whatever but i mean.. this isnt the latest youtube video or candy...just saying. also sending me 20 notes isnt makeing me figure out things any faster.

EDIT, again. since theres more i have to clear up:
i do not have photos. i was way to concerned over the dog to whip out my phone.
from above the dog didnt seem to have a problem, when the man left is when i examined the dog.
i dont have names, records, any of that since i am just an EMPLOYEE. if i ran the place id have all the information.
i got a call from my boss, im going to a SMALL trial saturday morning.
i NEVER asked this to be re posted.
i am NOT a vet. i am a GROOMER.
i dont work in a clinic.
i NEVER said this guy was a furry, just that he had a drawing of one on the shirt.
again i never asked this to be re posted and people i dont even know or never even heard of have posted this. i dont know what your trying to do? gather more information? thats what the police are for not a whole E team.

and ill repeat this. - i didnt expect to get ANYTHING off of this-, i came home from work and needed to get my day out in words, it was eating me up since around 9am this morning and i had to work through the day. ONE person reposted and im FINE with that, but before knew it it was 5-8-19- and i dont even know how much more there are now. i dont understand what you want me to do, im not hideing any details? granted i didnt describe any smells, but thats the only thing i 'left out'.

court dates have been moved to friday morning
1130 comments

User replies

  lolitaofthevoid
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oh my god, that poor puppy!

I fucking hate people like that. They're so selfish and sick.

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  yeah i havent been able to get right, i put it out of my head for a few hours but i cant like ..ever get rid of this. just how does this make any sense? your clearly hurting the dog, even if he wasnt hurting the dog its just not right. not to mention this puts a bad name on furries...again.

  pensive
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  ....after reading this I am nearly to the point of tears. That poor, poor dog. :( Oh my god.

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  babe. me too. i can stomach alot of things but this just hurts me in so many ways. i think the part that really kills me is that the guy didnt see it as a problem and was openly talking about it infront of me and my boss.

  dreamprophecy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oh...Oh my god that poor doggy...

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  oh god that seriously made me cry a bit...

  selunca
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I came from Acorns journal.. This made me want to cry, that poor dog. :( He did nothing wrong but love his owner, and his owner hurt him and so the dog gets to be put down because of this disgusting man? Please tell me you guys are filing charges of animal cruelty. Poor dog..

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  oh im sure my boss is going to show up for this guys trial, they may need a statment from me, --- if that gets thats far.

  melissar1
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  D': that poor dog </3

did that sick fuck go to jail PERMINATLEY? >:U

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  i have no idea what the fate of the guy is :c

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Killing an animal can only get someone a year in jail so even if they prove he abused the dog hes not looking at much time.

  aurastar-taijiya
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2439250/

I sincerely hope you don't mind me passing this on,
but i was so pissed when I read this.
That poor dog....</3

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  oh god this is getting around! but man go ahead and pass it i dont mind, this horror like.. needs to be spread so people will fucken STOP IT allready

  aurastar-taijiya
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  And to learn this guy was a fur.

I'm all HELL NO right now.
Really.

;__;
*hugs*
I am so, so, so, so sorry you had to witness ths..

  zephyro
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  There is no amount of WTF that can describe how I feel right now. :/

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  your icon fits so perfectly

  zephyro
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  My friends actually pointed that out after I posted my response. I didn't really think about it until then.

  mekkasonic
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Argh...Some people. *sighs and growls* What in the hell, I mean...really? How could someone do this to a dog? I hope that guy got the book thrown at him, hard. Just....ugh, this infuriates and saddens me to no end.

  lunaruby
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  This is horrible, I can never understand how people can be so cruel to their pets :( I can't even understand how someone can look at their animal in such a way. I love my cat, he's like my baby, but I would never do those horrible things :( This makes me sick and I just want to cry after reading this.

  intohimo
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  this just disgusts me. How can someone so vile walk around and not have any remorse for their actions. Does he wanna get raped like that?

  rgibson
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  We can only hope he goes to prison and gets raped repeatedly, and passed around among the prisoners like the bitch he is, and beaten up for good measure.

  intohimo
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  mhm, very true

  iceheartt
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Me 'n dreamprophecy  dreamprophecy posted this around too..... ugh this is just horrible. T_T

  nukkus
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  every day i hate people more and more.

  tummakaru
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  oh my god! That poor dog!!! Are you a vet or a groomer?

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  i am a dog groomer but was trained in minor vettech studies so i well learned alittle more on how to help a dog rather than just groom it, i didnt even know what to do to try and get it to sit comfortably.

  tummakaru
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  gotcha. ...wouldnt happen to work at PetCo as a groomer would you?

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  oh helll no. i work in a private business

  tummakaru
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  ahh. =P I work at petco and heard a similar story.

  evoimako
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  im at petco as well as a groomer and think i might have heard the same story you heard, but god this is fucked up, im the kind of guy though that would have kicked the shit out of that guy if he was still around......thats just wrong

  tummakaru
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Agreed


  furrifical
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  This made me cry...

  skycoyote
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  When I first actually dove deep into the internet, I mean real deep. I came across a gif of a beautiful german/lab mix laying against a wall, just chillin there. Then he was hit several times with a shovel. After the first hit I closed the window and immediately throw up. I can never get that image out of my head. But after reading what you just posted...

*shudders*

You just don't do that..
I hope that neckbeard gets whats coming for him in jail. If we're lucky, I personally hope he gets shanked.

I'm not a squeamish person at all but when it comes to animals, I just lose it.

  mishie
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  someone once linked me to a vids of some Japanese people hitting a cat over the head with a mace and cooking it up. they didn't tell me what it was so when i clicked on it i was like O_O i closed it as fast as i could, never bitched at someone SO hard in my life. now i never look at vids unless i know what it is first. disgusting people...

  skycoyote
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yea.. I've seen similar ones. I will never understand some people or the things they do. Theres a video of this asian girl wearing stilettos and petting a kitten...you can see where I'm going with this.


  miumisha
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I saw that too. I can never get that out of my head. As this either.

  ravenclaw101
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  God I've seen that video too. When I saw the stilettos and the cat I shut the computer off ppl can be sick

  duskwitherkahzza
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I've also seen this one.. and was just reminded about how horrible it was. D:
Actually I think it was a puppy.. but... y'know. Same concept. :C

  katoshio
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I haven't seen the video, but I've seen screen captures as a form of protest against shit like it. Still, I was numb for a while after seeing it and cried for a good part of that night. It's just...fucking horrible was some people can do as a fetish or because they're bored. If you're that bored, by all means, chop your own dick off, mutilate yourself, hell, shove a jar up your ass, but don't bring other living creatures into it, human or otherwise.

  kumori-san
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Someone linked me to some chinese people skinning dogs alive and I have never been able to get those images out of my head. It shows EVERYTHING and then they throw the dog in a trash box and say "It takes 22 mins for this dog to die." I cried all the way through the vid, and for two hours after. IT WAS NOT COOL.

  chlokitty
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I just watched that and signed a petition to stop that!

  kumori-san
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yeah good luck >>
China is its own country.
Nothing we do or say is going to stop them.

  chlokitty
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  well the petition is signed by everyone around the world.
honestly it is better then watching the video and not spreading the word of such hatred.

  kumori-san
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I didnt see the point in signing it to be honest.
Its just another video to get our attention and prove we cant do a damned thing about it.

  spectre118
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  China is a sick disgusting place, I've seen some terrible animal abuse videos/storys from there
(I'm not insulting Chinese in general, just the ones that do and allow the animal abuse)

  skycoyote
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I saw that too... if only we were allowed to "take care of" those people that skinned those animals. If only we could hire a Predator to have some fun with them

  brokendragon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I like this idea.

  yashendwirh
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Was it racoon dogs and did the vid also pan over a bunch of other animals like ferrets and minxes to show what the fir trade is like?

It was awful, I saw it too I think. And the poor animal just lays there, in shock, blinking helplessly at the camera.

Vomit x 9000

  kumori-san
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  No it was just dogs. And it was horrible.
Scarred me for life.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  That was a video from PeTA. There are theories it may have actually been staged, based on what the people are saying in Chinese.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Knowing PeTA [who took in pets as a shelter and then killed em and dumped them in a dumpster behind a restaurant], I really wouldn't doubt it. They consider keeping animals as pets equal to slavery.

  rgibson
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Just because it's PETA doesn't automaticly mean it's been faked. (how did they fake it? Use stuffed animals or CGI?) China treats it's animals (and humans) horribly. Human life is cheap and animal life is worth even less. A culture that rountinely practices female infanticide, forced abortions in the third trimester and uses it's prisoners as slave labor is not going to think twice about skinning animals alive if it costs less to do so. I realize people's hatred of PETA makes them want to dismiss everything they say or do outright, but that's as bad as accepting everything they say and do unquestioningly.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Nononono, not faked asin used fake animals. Staged, set up.

You can google around for it if you wish. I'm not on my computer [on my sisters'] so I can't look through my history to find a site about it

  rgibson
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  if that's true, clearly they had no trouble finding Chinese willing to skin animals alive. Which is in and of itself makes one believe that's something they rountinely do anyways. But I've found that some people have a hatred of PETA that seems to be almost pathological, and they're more interested in discrediting the group than anything else. Sort of the same mentality that you see in 9/11 or pharmasutical conspiracy people..

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yeah it is sad.
I don't hate PeTA though, I just find them fucking stupid and they like to brainwash kids.. that's all.

  kirbyfox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  If the tannery is making it routine to skin the animals alive, then they're poorly run. I know a few taxidermists and they've told me that skinning an animal alive isn't just cruel, it's very unpractical. The point of skinning an animal is to preserve the skin itself. So ripping it off the animal while alive and thrashing can easily ruin the product and thus waste the point of raising the animal in the first place. If I could compare this to anything I'd say it would be like raising cattle by purposefully hacking it up with an axe rather than the usual euthanasia plans, you're ruining the meat and prolonging the death. It's because of this that I personally believe those videos to be staged, the fact that Peta is a hilariously bad group is only the icing on the cake.

  spectre118
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I've seen things just as bad if not worse from china, makes me so angry, disgusting country full of stupid people that would allow or do this.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  That was a rabid dog in some country in Russia or some shit. It doesn't excuse beating it with a shovel but you can't expect any more from a country with little-to-no animal welfare

  fen-fen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  One of the best quotes I have heard about animal abuse in other countries went along the lines of "You really can't expect a third-world-country who treats it's people like crap to treat animals like royalty."

I can't remember it exactly and I know it may not apply to Russia fully, but I've usually found it to be true.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yeah it's pretty goddamn true. Take a look at China, Africa and Mexico[and most of South America]

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  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  My apologies for the double-post... I'm not on myown computer and this one is kind of slow.

  intohimo
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  i've seen a rabbit get skinned alive, and saw the inside of one of the furfarms in asia. MANY reasons why i do not and never will by real fur.

  reddywolf
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Ugh...That guy is one sick piece of work...
How can someone even do that to a dog? :c

  helplessfur
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2439281/


something is wrong with people... something very wrong

  extorpid
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  What the fuck. Just... Uuhg I don't know what to say. that poor creature.

  extorpid
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  This makes me absolutely sick to my stomach...

  trishbatcat
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  that guy don't deserve to live!!!! Thats so sad!!!!

  kirbyfox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I passed along the journal. http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2439289/

This is the kind of situation where I wouldn't mind sicking Anonymous on the fucker's ass.

  soulspoison
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  How fucking disgusting... I came over here after reading iceheartt  iceheartt's journal.
What a horrible man and god that poor dog.. my heart broke just reading that.

There was a case like that back home in Indiana that made the news involving a goat instead of a dog, and sadly the goat too didn't make it. :C

  cinoxfellpyre
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I lol'd.

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  thats cool bro

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  you are so edgy.

  murrahnithahn-i-ia
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I sincerely hope you really aren't as fucked in the head as that comment makes you sound, bro'.

WTF

  chaojimbo
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Your a twit.

  heuvadoches
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  *you're

  chaojimbo
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Thank you. It was 2 in the morning and I was really tired. xD

  evoimako
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  i hope someone finds you and stabs you, this isnt funny shit its sick, twisted, and wrong.

  airduinec
 

(No Subject) Posted: 2 years ago

  lol'd

  taraswiftclaw
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  oi that is bad. but did the guy come in with a furry suit? and hood or somthing if so could it been a staged attempt to bash furries?. eather way guy goes to jail but can easly bee a attempt to slander furries.

yet dont confuse this with zoophile [as by defintion it means love of he namial as an equal but no sexual activity done]

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  no not really, just his pull over was a poor drawing of a white wolf furry, an x over its chest, one red one blue eye and a curly tail. AKA more than half of the people on here, but judgeing by the art im figureing he drew it himself

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  The red+blue eyes and white canine reminds me of someone. I can't put my finger on it though.

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  oh ho ho! maybe a lead, i was waiting for you to comment actually lol.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yeah it's bothering the crap out of me cause I can see it right now in my damn head.
Fuuuck

& I've seen this journal in my messages like 4 times and someone linked it in a shout ;9

  pomponio
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm sorry but that's a weak lead. I've seen several fursonas which look just like that :/

Let's wait and see. It's not like the guy's on the loose.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  ...I never said "I KNOW THE GUY!!" I said it sounded familiar.

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  uhhh i think most people who fuck animals identify as a zoophile.

and i seriously, seriously doubt this guy didn't just do it to 'slander furries'. what a dedicated troll he would be.

  ecmajor
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Just for the record though, this person in question is not at all a good representation/example of a zoophile, even if he claims to be one. He is obviously pretty fucked up and dangerous to either not realize the harm he'd caused or to not care - and he deserves more punishment than he will undoubtedly get (because laws aren't very strict when it comes to animal abuse unfortunately.)
I don't necessarily agree with the practices of sexual zoophiles and bestialists who claim to be zoophiles, but i do know a fair bit about them. And i know that many of them would find this person's crime as deplorable (maybe even moreso) than you do.

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  oh i know not all zoophiles do this. i am a little lost in ANGRYRAGE at the moment as you can see, but i think i've mentioned once or twice in a reply to one of the other 45125155 comments that i think its all find and dandy if people are attracted to animals but dont act on it. i know zoophiles watch me, i might watch some and i'm sure some people i talk too also considered themselves zoophiles. i definitely know that this is beyond disgusting for 'real' zoophiles too because this is not what someone can consider love. :/

  ecmajor
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yeah, definitely not love at all. If this guy somehow believes there was some kind of loving bond between him and his canine sex-slave he's totally lost touch with reality...

I'm just a little wary of the whole "torches and pitchforks" blind-retribution lynch-mob reflex people seem to have when it comes to sensitive and controversial subjects like this. ...like, i draw nonanthro porn sometimes... and even though i don't act on things like that in real life i know it's only a small distance for that fire to leap before it's knocking at my door demanding my blood.
Blind retribution is never a good thing, because the situation is always more complicated than that allows for.

And i've been up a long time, so pardon my rambling :|

This is horrible for sure, and your anger is justified. Definitely got to ignore my journals now for a while from the looks of it, as they're just going to be full of this being reposted endlessly. Fucking A. >.<

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  If you didn't do anything like this, even if someone did come knocking at your door I don't think you would get in trouble for something you didn't do. Or at least I would hope so. :/

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Just to be clear, "zoophile" does not mean "one who has consenting sex with an animal", it means "one who has a sexual attraction towards animals"
Zoos/dogfuckers/whatever like to try and seperate "zoo/zoophile" from "bestiality" because bestiality is what beast movies are built up around and they consider drugging a horse so it gets an erection cruel. They don't seem to realize that bestiality is the act and zoophile is the sexual attraciton :)
Now, if you're referring to "bestialists" as the ones in the beast porn films, those may/may not be zoophiles, but they're still a zoophile if they're attracted to animals.

Anybody who has a sexual attraction towards animals is a zoophile and if they have sex with an animal, they are engaging bestiality.
Sorry, kind of a pet peeve of mine, because I've heard it way too often.

  muddy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  That, right there, was enlightening. Thank you.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Alas there are bigoted people who think sex with an animal is just as bad as what this person supposedly did.

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  sirius
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I disagree with this quite heavily, as I'm sure most of those reading do. I assume you do identify as a zoophile, even here you're not saying you're against sexual acts with animals, only saying that you don't necessarily agree- but that doesn't say you disagree with such things, which people like you really need to do, as vocally as possible. Those who actually call themselves zoophiles and openly decry animal-rape/bestiality/etc are well in the minority- even those that claim not to are usually very much okay about it, claiming that sexuality is part of loving an animal, or attacking people who are only physically into animals, but still are okay with bestiality when it occurs in a "loving relationship" or whatever. it's really one and the same, and needs to be treated as such. Rape is rape. As

  ecmajor
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  k.

  sirius
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  C'mon, "Sexual acts with animals is rape and I'm against it" isn't that much of a mouthful...

  xenomorphvii
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I believe the proper term is either Dog fucker, or sick fuck.

  mavu
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I kind of think it goes a bit far to think that someone would rape a dog just to bash furries, I'm sorry. It probably has nothing to do with trying to get bad press on furries. :/ Just has to do with the fact that the man is a sick, sick fuck.

And zoophilia(thus zoophiles) is defined as a fetish. As in a love in a sexual nature. :( That is not to be confused with true animal lovers, who simply love their animals as one would a family member or an extremely close friend.

  taraswiftclaw
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  think you need to switch zoophile with beastality.

as full true definition of zoophile is the love of animals as equals or so on but no sexual thigns done tothem as that would push into the beastality.

most time the terms are confused witheachother due to people not learning the difference.

a pretty good define of love of animal as an equal woudl be the cowboy and his dog that gaurds thehouse and stuff and the cowboy feeds the dog before he eats him self type things.

  nightfallgeminiimporter
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  oh hey just saw your posts about zoophilia and bestiality being different.


toot toot here comes the Clue Train: it's the same shit repackaged to make the practitioners of shit like this feel better.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Zoophilia is the medical term for Bestiality.



  muddy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  No. As Clayton said, zoophilia is the sexual attraction. Bestiality is the act. Love is not a part of those. Just like the definition of sex, it's about the act. Mushy gushy feelings aren't actually part of the definition of the act. Zoophilia is not the love of animals as equals. It is the sexual attraction to animals. I LOVE animals and view them, in part (which I will not fight about here), as equals. But I in no fucking way want to screw my pets. Ever.

You don't even know what you are talking about.

  aurathewolf
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  There are zoophiles who love their animals dearly just as they would a human. They would never dream of hurting any of them. They may be sexually attracted but that doesn't mean they want to hurt/rape the animal. I personally know one who views animals as equals and they are sickened by this post as well. Yes, zoophilia is the sexual attraction to animals, but that doesn't exclude emotional attachment and love.

This creep guy wasn't this. This guy was just a sick fuck who deserves to suffer a horrible painful death and never be allowed near another animal.

  muddy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  That's not what I was saying. I never said that Zoos may not love their pet. But the term zoophile MEANS sexual attraction to animals. I meant that this guy was trying to say zoophiles are people in love with animals and I was correcting him. I'm sure there are zoos out there who never hurt a pretty little hair on their pets' heads, but that does not mean they do not have sexual attraction to the animal. That just means they are refraining from putting sexual acts on the pet, which is beastiality.

I hope this makes more sense. I agree with your last statement.

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  xenomorphvii
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Definition of ZOOPHILIA
: an erotic fixation on animals that may result in sexual excitement through real or fancied contact

I think you're making up your own definition to suit your own ideas.

  likeshine
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

 

staged?

he abused his dog to STAGE an attempt to bash furries?

that is delusional. i'm sorry, i try not to be rude, but that is absolutely fucking ridiculous.

  brokendragon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Sounds like someone has a case of paranoia...

Random Furry: "They're out to get us guys!" D=

  pomponio
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Pedophile priests are actually atheist homosexuals who infiltrated the Church to make it look bad >:T

  xenomorphvii
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  ^This

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  not very bright, are ya?

  emira
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You need to research your definition of zoophilia better. It pretty much is a nice way of saying bestiality. And only someone with a SEVERE mental disorder would probably ever even consider staging something this bad.



  taraswiftclaw
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  the definition does reference its mistaken as beastality due to both haveing a soposed love connection to animals but beastlity takes it beyond to sexual or forced sex. zoophile usualy refers to the non sexual aspect.

  emira
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  http://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/zoophilia Check it. I could also link the larger article by wikipedia, but I know people tend to not consider them as reliable a source.

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  punkbawkchicken
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Staged attempt?
...Really?

Yeah you know, becuase when someone fucks their dog their next thought is 'hey, I'm going to go put on a wolf hoodie so they think FURRIES are responsible lolololol!'

  nightfallgeminiimporter
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  yes, someone is going to fuck their dog and land their asses in jail (possibly prison) all to MAKE FURRIES LOOK BAD.

get over the fandom, get over yourself. this guy did it because it made him hard. it's all because of his sick-fuck deviancy, not because he's some ~super secret anti-furry agent~

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You won't go to prison unless its a federal crime in whatever state it occurs in. Most states in the US consider it a misdemeanor if that.

  nightfallgeminiimporter
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  at least you wind up on the 5'oclock and not a single person you know or ever will know will want to talk to you ever again :I that sounds like a pretty pro punishment.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  See this is why I find it odd that the guy supposedly walked into a groomers with a physically abused animal and then started saying things that would make people listening assume he had sex with the dog. Why would someone do that? If what she said is true (and I have doubts to be honest) then wouldn't that mean the guy was deliberately trying to brand himself as an animal abuser? Who would do something like that on purpose?

  nightfallgeminiimporter
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  some people are just that absolutely retarded enough to think that everyone is not only like them, but that the horrifying things they do will somehow go unnoticed. these people exist.

  brokendragon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Federal crimes hold the same weight in every state. I think you meant felony.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Felonies are Federal crimes...

  benchilla
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  A federal crime implies it applies to all states, and transcends the states. Just pointing that out.

  acorn
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I just want you to know that I have put this in my own journal and hope to get people's awareness for this situation up. This is ridiculously sick for someone to do to their animal :/

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  so i saw, thank you

  candycane
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Jesus Christ.

  drache42
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Let me at this guy. Just give me 5 minutes. Alone, in a soundproofed room.


He will not walk out o.=.O!

  jinggo78
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  A little like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m7njvwB-Ks Video for Pantera's 5 Minutes Alone. Old yes but still good.

  xenomorphvii
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  No, more like this(WARNING GRAPHIC)

  mishie
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  poor thing, that is absolutely GROSS. i feel so sorry for the thing! i wouldnt of been able to stand seeing it, i would of had to walk away then go beat that mother fudger. is the dog staying at your clinic? if so will you keep us up dated on his health? i hope the poor thing gets better. it just breaks my heart imagining the pain he is in...

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  no he was takeing away around 10am this morning, i wont have any updates on if it was put down or not untill saturday

  rayvekyuu
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2439320/

This is so sad.
How the hell do people like this get to pretend they aren't doing anything wrong?!


  keshacarami
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  That is just sickening.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  so okay I get that this is sad and i cried when I read it but honestly do we need t have everyone and their fucking mothers posting this fucking shit no we don't.

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  yeah when the first five people posted it. ok. but now its just getting spread around and im being....watched for horror i watched go down?

  slash125
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yeah, i find that slightly annoying, but you can't help it when people feel the need to post it everywhere, oh well :V

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  yeah so i allready got my troll comment, im trolled enough do i need more help being spread about?

  slash125
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  wait what o.o

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  then ignore it?
we dont have a lot of information on him until saturday apparently, but when we do get more information its possible we could find more evidence online. its possible he's abused other dogs and other animals. any videos, pictures, or comments he made might help in him getting in more trouble then he already is.

  slash125
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Woah, i wasn't saying anything bad about it, at least i hope so...and i do ignore it o3o

  acorn
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Honestly, I think the more people who post it the better. There's way too many people who are "okay" with stupid shit in the fandom. Furries need to understand that this shit isn't cool

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  you know I've never once see or heard a furry who talked about beastily in fact in my history with this fandom it's about as far as away from that in fact I can almost bet you that guy who did this never even heard about furries.

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  you dont go on the internet a lot, do you?

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I actually do a lot and it's the stupid bullshit like this that really ruins it. however hopefully whoever you said was just caught for this will receive a very strict sentence for what he did.

  hoot
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  yea you need to get on the internet more

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  lol not really probably need to be off it less with the people I've ran across today in those journal god. You agree people should be punished but say they should also be treated fairly and people bite your head off.

  acorn
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Really?

EbonLupus and Java, both of whom were hugely popular artists, were zoophiles. JAVA had to get rid of her dog because he became aggressive because of her repeated sexual contact with him. EbonLupus went through several dogs while on FA.



As for the guy not knowing furries, "pull over hoodie with a sterotypical woflie furry with RED AND BLUE EYES" right in the journal

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  krypto1701 was just caught for dog fucking. the dog had injuries and apparently he also abused other dogs. one of them had to be euthanized due to the abuse.

  acorn
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yep, remember that being posted on lulz. Couldn't remember his name however.

  blaquetygriss
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  OMG

  saberkenji
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Please screencaps or it didn't happen.

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  it was in furrydrama_2 and on lulz. go join the community if you want to see the entry, as i dont think it would be right for me to post screencaps from a private community.

  saberkenji
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  It's okay. I was wondering where Kripto was after commission me and later dissapear from FA.

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  oh thats the same guy? did he actually pay for the commission or did you do it for him and he disappeared? he was banned, i believed.

  saberkenji
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Well, I did a character reference for him several months ago and he paid it before dissapear. I didn't know he's now in the jail until now

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Lu;z is hardly the source for factual information via the web.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  okay first of f ebon and java two people I never heard of nor never had interaction with and secondly anyone who would okay these people are just as fucked up as the people doing the actually animal fucking so all of their fans need to have some sense knocked into their brains.

  acorn
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Just making a point that I can name a few off the top of my head. Just because YOU never ran into one doesn't mean it doesn't happen and it isn't a part of the fandom. There's a larger demographic than you'd think who keep it quiet because Anon would wreck their lives for their sick fucked up ways.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  fuck yeah! maybe then we could throw them all into camps and keep an eye on them. Fuck it let's just get rid of them completely and put them in the ovens, right?

  acorn
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Not exactly what I was talking about. More like contacting authorities and their workplaces.

Way to overreact much?

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I was just going with what you and the others have been giving me all I said was there's no reason for this journal to be cloned so much and it's like "OMG HE SUPPORTS BEASTILITY!!" grow up I have a different point of view and feel these people should actually be given medical help instead of just talking about them when we have no power to do the right thing. WHich was actually already done here by kaijuqueen and her boss.

  acorn
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You are overreacting and getting defensive over nothing. O.o

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  lol trying to turn this around now? not gonna work you guys started the overreacting.

  acorn
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oookay

  -jes-
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  *Acorn complains about too many furries being A-OK with dograping*
You>I've never heard of dog abusers in furryfandom
*Acorn lists a few of the many MASSIVE examples most of the fandom are well aware of*
You>I've never heard of these people, your argument is invalid
*Acorn reminds you that the fandom is not JUST you
You>OMG LET'S BE PREJUDICED NAZIS THEN
*Acorn facepalms at your idiocy*
You>LOL LOOK WHOS DEFENSIF NAO


Next time, try a little bit of that there 'READING COMPREHENSION' before you go off on a spittlespraying tangent.

Awareness of pet abuse is not a bad thing, and will never be. Would you be so callous if it were a child, perhaps you at age two?
Of course you wouldn't. Of course, there is a limit to all forms of awareness. One must not persecute anyone at the mere blink of an eye.
Innocent until proven otherwise, you know.

So, get off your imaginary high horse and face fact: You made a retarded argument, and you tried backing it up with even more retardation.

So, to you I have this to say: It's time to stop posting, my boy.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  okay first I was against doggie raping from the start. Secondly I'm not on any high horse and I"m not using retarded facts I'm using facts of medical science you stupid bitch. WTF is wrong with people on fa seriously go read a book on how the brain works and you'll understand how right my statement is.

also why can't you like the others accept the facts that people have issues and need help over coming them? for fuck sake the creator of this journal backed at the start wtf is wrong with you guys >.<

  -jes-
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I have over forty THOUSAND pages of peer reviewed human biology and mental research.

AT NO POINT does any of those hundreds of papers even INSINUATE that the human Id cannot distinguish between the want for same sex partners, and the complete disregard of a fellow living, breathing entity's wellbeing.

Now you're being a complete retard, especially as you have shown how easy you are at using slurrs against other people. Stop posting.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I never said the human mind couldn't do that but sometimes it doesn't and when it doesn't that's when people need help... but if you really did have this much time spent on research in this you really wouldn't be arguing with me.

  -jes-
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I only argued with you, because I tend to hope for the best in people. This is my naivety, of which I'm moderately proud to still have.
Of course, I also have learned throughout my many years to expect the worst.

You, my son, are of the latter.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  it's really funny you would say that as if you actually had a clue as to what made a good and bad human. If you did you would be as horrified as I am about the people on this little thread.

  -jes-
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Pot to kettle: You're black.

Your turn, petulant child.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  XD just because you know a big word doesn't mean it fits into an argument at your whim. In fact if anyone was being petulant it has been most of the trolls who were against my idea but as they realized what I was saying they stopped and realized i was right. The whole idea that I was defending this from the start was absurd when I clearly stated I was glad to see he was being punished for his behavior. The part where people didn't seem to agree with me was the whole him needing help and getting treatment to become a productive normal citizen of society.

now I ask you what's so wrong with wanting to help the ill minded?

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  SHUT UP JES

  -jes-
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  No, they didn't stop because they 'realized' you were right, they stopped because your self-serving wailing is tiresome, and they have lives to tend to (and so do I).
I am the only one currently courteous enough to give your inane babble rebuttal.

Yes, the ill minded must be helped. But they cannot be helped if awareness of what they did WRONG is not raised. This is what you seem to fail to understand.
The man has been arrested, and he will be subjected to mental screening. The court will decide what is to become of him.


HOWEVER, in the far majority of your mostly incoherent and poorly-worded argumenting, you come across as trying to whitewash the man of ANY guilt, on the grounds that 'some people can't tell the diff, here's my wholly inadequate and unfounded argument as to why.'
This is utterly reprehensible. The man must have some form of punishment - he must be shown what he did was very, VERY wrong.

"it won't those that actually do this will be like well that idiot wasn't doing it right or maybe Well I"m more gentle then he was he had a rough sex fetish as well. These people do these things because it's not what they want to do it's because their brains aren't working right and their brain says it's the right thing to do."

This is you. This comes across as whitewashing. Want to know why?
Because, as a functioning member of society, one LEARNS certain things. This includes, but is not limited to, how one treats living animals under one's care.
If the man was not certain he understood this, or felt himself incapable of following through with this, then he should, as a responsible person, never have acquired a pet in the first place.

But he took the pet. He accepted the responsibility, and he has shown he was not to be trusted with it.
That is why people are mad: He has essentially lied to, and disappointed, everyone involved FOR HIS OWN BENEFIT, at the potential cost of the pet's life!


We live in a modern society. There are rules, some written very specifically, others taught through social interaction throughout childhood and, indeed, life.
Needless sexual abuse of a dog is one of the things not allowed by those rules. Not understanding that fully does not absolve you from the consequences.

Aspergers syndrome does not excuse you from murder. You should know better, brainwired or not.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  okay I'm gonna say this once more so you'll get this silly little whitewashing idea out of your head as I stated before. I'm glad he's going to be punished and put through the process to get better I don't forgive him for what he did and I've never said it was okay so once again you trolls fail. Secondly yes they did realize I was fucking right lol they stopped being idiots and realized I wasn't saying doggie rape is okay they realized I wasn't for it at all and that all I had been saying was that this persons clearly needs help.

Now to get to your points you made in this statement You actually agree with like 80% to almost all of what I"ve been saying this whole time in here... I don't think this dude should have ever been given a pet in the first place. Secondly you picked out my point about how the mentally ill would justify their form of they abuse their animals as being okay as if it was me condoling the acts of people somehow which I don't

and since you're a troll and probably have no clue how this topic got started I'll tell you. I said I didn't feel people should post clone journals of the graphic details of this and you know what the queen actually agreed. As to me whitewashing this dude.. maybe you actually in your mind want to do that but I never did and anyone who says I did is only out here to troll.

  -jes-
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  If I am a troll, then you are suffering from ADHD and are going back on the very words you have written in this journal.
Yes, you DID argue just that. Yes, you DID say just that. How many times do I have to QUOTE you?!


And, oh, guess who started this tirade by thinking they were the entire furry community? YOU.
as I said earlier, take a step back, and look at what you've said so far. It's time to STOP POSTING!



  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I never claimed to be the entire furry community D: so that point is invalid Hmm I've stated from the beginning that people with this issue need to be put through the proper procedures... I'm honestly not seeing how your attempts at misquoting me is suppose to make me go "OMG THYE"RE RIGHT I SO DID SAY WHAT I DIDN"T SAY... " Sorry but that won't be happening and honestly I always said in my experiences. But it seems there's a lot of people who have had other ones and yet seemed to not have reported it themselves... which kinds begs to question if I'm actually saying this is bad and shit needs to happen to stop it yet other people are yelling at me for that and they claim to know people who do it... OMG YOU'RE REALLY PRO BEASTALITY.... wow So glad that's cleared up I'll be ignoring you from now on jes.

  -jes-
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  1:
You posted this: "you know I've never once see or heard a furry who talked about beastily in fact in my history with this fandom it's about as far as away from that in fact I can almost bet you that guy who did this never even heard about furries."

You can see here yourself arguing that, if your experience with the fandom is the norm, then you're right. In fact, you're 'almost' willing to bet on that it is.
Oh, but apparently quite a few people could easily name you several BIGNAME publicly known dogfuckers, showing how in fact you're very far from knowledgable on the fandom, in fact how blatantly WRONG you were.
Thus, we've established that you started out as thinking you knew more about the fandom than Acorn, that your experience with the fandom was in fact the NORM, and that this was simply not the case.


2:
Your argument of misquoting. I take the full quotes. My argumentation relates to their proper context, check the posts. I repeatedly mention Acorn. Have you?
READ THEM UP. Compare lengths and lettercount, even. And then ask yourself why everyone else so far has read them the same way as I have.
Set and match, petulant child.


3:
"But it seems there's a lot of people who have had other ones and yet seemed to not have reported it themselves".
They have! that's why these people are publicly known in the furry fandom, you imbecil.
Hell, if you EVER checked places like lulz net or freehaven's board, you'd have noticed the regularity of "DOGFUCKER EXPOSED" threads.



4:
You argue that the same part of the brain that makes someone sexually aroused by a dog is also the part that makes a man gay. Show me the research papers on this, because I assure you, my combined education and source material blasts this hogwash right out of the sky.
Link me to a PEER REVIEWED AND SCIENTIFICALLY ACCEPTED PAPER ON THIS, OR DON'T EVER USE THIS PISSPOOR ARGUMENT AGAIN!


Again, proof you haven't got the slightest clue what you're talking about. So, yes, do fall back on simple ad hominems. Continue your strawman argumenting.
You have just proven my point all along! So thank you, and for goodness sake, STOP POSTING!

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Nazi Holocaust much?

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  lol was there even a point to this comment?

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You know - the whole "Lets round up zoophiles and burn them alive" comment.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  lol well that was the feeling most people was giving off at the time earlier and since you showed up.. what seven hours late it just seems a little umm pointless to be making any kind of a comment but whatever I'm just a guy who's tired of being trolled.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I just saw a link to the journal tonight. Not my fault I was late to the party.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  lol fair enough :D

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  it could also be an anime geek honestly. i know locals in my home in nyc and my home in jersey that have animal shirts and hoodies that arent furries at all. could also be the new "wolf pack" thing thats been spreading around lately.

  acorn
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  She gave a better description in one of the comments about it being a white wolf anthro that looked badly drawn, he possibly drew it himself.

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  i know non furs in my school that draw them. sure, very likely a fur, but it could also be some guy that likes cartoons.

  acorn
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  True, but it's better to be careful. And the community as a whole needs to see that alot of these things aren't good. I've noticed furries are a bit too forgiving of other's actions because they "are one of us". I mainly kept my journal ambiguous to avoid it sounding like I was targeting furries.

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  urgh thats stupid. its wrong no matter what

  acorn
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I agree. But like I said, furries tend to be far too forgiving.

Until something this severe happens.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  try furries like this instead would clear that whole thing up, unless it was an idiot furry who doesn't know how to read everything and learn the facts LOL.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  sorry rewrite!

try furries like this instead, it would clear that whole thing up, unless it was an idiot furry who doesn't know how to read everything and learn the facts LOL.

  extorpid
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I have though. Some one mentioning "well I'm glad its still legal in my state HURRHURR"

:/ although its getting posted a lot, but maybe it will reach most of the true freaks and maybe give them a hint of guilt for their pathetic lives of tormenting another creature.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  it won't those that actually do this will be like well that idiot wasn't doing it right or maybe Well I"m more gentle then he was he had a rough sex fetish as well. These people do these things because it's not what they want to do it's because their brains aren't working right and their brain says it's the right thing to do.

  extorpid
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  1. For the majority, that is probably true. But for a few maybe it will get into their head how sick of sick-fucks they truly are. Something is better than nothing.

2. Please learn how to use punctuations. It would make your statements a whole lot easier to read.

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  putting it that way makes them sound like they're the victims. don't be a rape apologist.
bestality is shunned away in most countries for numerous of reasons. if someone truly loves their animals, they should not be fucking them. if they want to do it but dont act on it? good for them for having some self control. if they feel the need to act on it, they should be looking for help or ways to curve their behavior. i dont think most zoophiles brains are 'forcing' them to force themselves on dogs.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Q. do you really need to be a grammar nazi on the internet? If I feel like using correct English I shall but until then I won't.


ONE MORE THING!! have a wonderful day :D

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm not a rape apologist and even saying that makes you come across as a troll. So I'm done replying to your posts say what you want I don't care.

  extorpid
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Imsorryihavetroublereadingwhatyourtryingtosaywhenyoutypewithnipunctuatuaionthankyouiwillhaveaniceday.

And ditto on what anklebones said to you.

  acorn
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Anklebones comes off as a troll for telling you that animal fuckers have no excuse?

uh wut?

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  What the hell is wrong with you? I tried to extend the branch of friendship with a simple joke and what do you do... you go the dick route. Well I don't really expect much else from FA. So you just go ahead and pretend you're all high and might. Needing to point out everyone's grammar mistakes as if they're brought them to you for some sort of peer review. Seriously is your life that shitty you have to take it out on random people, people who just tried to calm the situation with a little humor. Instead of taking it and being nice and saying "Thanks I will have a nice day." What do you do? You call them a fucking rape apologist. First off I never once mentioned that rapist can't control themselves I believe they can easily however I was actually comparing the act of beastality more to the act of being homosexual. Also before you come at me with ooh it's because you're a gay basher I just want you to know I'm gay and I really don't give a shit what you say at this point. The whole Rape apologist bit was just to far over the line so keep your opinions to yourself and don't comment back to me it won't be replied to.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  no he comes off as a troll for calling me a rape apologist for saying someone can't help the way their brain works. Even though I never mentioned rapist in it he assumes I Feel they are forced to rape because of their brain when in fact I feel rapist actually are just scum who rape because they can and think they can get away with it. Secondly he comes across as a troll for just being a dick about this. I mean I was actually making a valid point in why people like this need help and not to be gossiped over like we're a bunch of thirteen year olds.

  acorn
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You are making an excuse by saying they do it because of the way their brain is wired. There are nonpracticing zoophiles who know it's wrong and don't do it. It's about choice. Choice that the person has every capacity to make.

I agree they need help, but these actions aren't a case of "Well his brain just doesn't work right, so he can't help it". People make their own decisions. These aren't legally insane members of society (can't tell right from wrong). They know what they do is wrong and make excuses to justify their actions.


And I think she has every right to be angry. This is such a disgusting and horrible act for anyone to commit.

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  so its excusable to rape and torture an innocent creature because of that?

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  yes people have a right to be angry and I never said we let them off the hook I'm just saying we don't crucify them for it and instead get them the help they need. The problem with that is that it means people like you and I can't do anything in this situation so we really should just stay out of it. In fact it was already handled long before this journal shit got spread around. Also nonpracticing zoophiles is almost a prefect example of what I was saying so I don't really know why you used it. They had a problem, got the help they needed and now are much better people. :D see it all works out when you just let the proper course of action go naturally.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  damn way to just jump right in to troll without reading my posts. I've made several attempts to clearify that I'm not for this I'm actually strongly against it and I think we need to get these people proper help. However crucifying them online isn't anywhere in the right realm of proper action. However I am reallly glad to see that the proper action was taken here by queen and her boss and the guy was caught... soo umm still feel like trollin me?

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  oooh wow. no. you're trolling. to compare bestiality to being gay...thats just fucked up.

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  TROOOL LOLOLOLL TROOOOLOLOL

umad bro?

  extorpid
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Psssha humor? Your great at showing humor- and sorry no one found it funny when you were against the movement of bringing this sick thing to people attention. Speaking of that, thats WHY people think your an apologist, complaining to lift the weight of the pressure from thousands of peoples eyes.


And, wait who's a gay basher..? What. Now I see where you're being funny! AHaha. That seriously came out of no where. I am pro-gay. Not pro-fuck-your-dog-in-the-ass.



  extorpid
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Ditto. That's a sickening and offending comparison. :/

But wait, he said he is gay! Maybe he's admitting something. ew. *shrugs*



  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  eew

but gawd, dog raping = torture. gay fucking = love.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  thanks for trolling more and no I'm not mad. I'm simply amazed at how few people on here understand the working of the brain and how situations like this happen. If people would take the time to learn it they would also understand the way to fix it and it's not through this. Hopefully the man caught in this instance will get treatment and be better for the rest of his life.

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  i dont give a shit if his "brain is making him do this" he should be jailed. bad shit happens to people who are jailed for things like that. treatment is bullshit, he should get punishment.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  yeah and when old people get infections we should just let them die! All those premature babies that need life support and other modern medical treatments fuck'em let'em die! you're anti treatment theory is very silly to say the least. Let's put it like this. If a child is born without the ability to feel pain from things like heat and puncture wounds and the like is it really okay to just let them burn the skin off their hands on the stove simply because they don't feel the pain? I'm gonna let you answer that yourself and I'm sure you'll know what's right but still make some trollish statement about ooh I fuck babies now or something but whatever.

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  they didnt beat and rape animals. you're just being an idiot now. maybe you're trying to defend YOURSELF or something.

those are real medical treatments, not psychological mumbo jumbo. i dont believe in a lot of psych treatments. i believe in some, but things for people like this...no. they dont deserve any mercy.

i dont agree with you, but that doesnt make me a troll. but hey, whatever floats your dog-fucking boat i guess.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  great so now you're just gonna accuse me of actually dog fucking?

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  i didnt completely accuse you, but why are you defending it?

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm not fucking defending it. I'm against people crucifying people online when they themselves can't fucking make a difference and I"m against shit like this being described in such graphic detail. Sure once is fine but when people keep spreading it around it's just stupid. All I've been trying to do is explain why simply posting this shit isn't gonna help those who actually need the help. Instead of getting "oh yeah good point" I get trolled by everyone who happens to be bored or really doesn't just fucking get the world. Like honestly how old are you? You're acting like a child is all I gotta say. People like you are why the founding fathers put laws into our government to prevent the out right lynching and executions of people who need help.

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  crucifying people online? you do realize this is not real life, right?

maybe they CAN make a difference. This is showing people to stay away from this dude and to look out for those injuries in a dog. This is to identify him on FA and get him banned. This is to show people how fucked up others are and to keep them away from people like him.

umm dude. its not a good point. i dont agree with you. i dont see why you cant just agree to disagree and stop trying to shove your beliefs in my face.

listen, bro, at least i can type correctly and form a good argument. if you want to debate you should do it intelligently and respect that someone else has a different opinion than you. i think your opinion is wrong, but that is MY OPINION. deal with it or gtfo.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  LOL okay so you're a moron that's cool it all makes a lot more sense now. first off "Don't shove my beliefs down my face." Dude that's what you and everyone else has been doing to me since this started are you to stupid to follow your own advice?

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Umm no, i tried to have a calm debate. yes, i started snarky, but once you responded in a semi-intelligent manner i replied calmly and told you my views. i do not believe in that. you do. simple.

  triggerfox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  dude totally fucks dogs.

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  i realized 8c

BUT ITS AWWIGHT ITS A DISORDER NOW

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  why honestly add this comment? Are you that lonely in real life that you have to try and start up an argument with someone you don't know? I'm really curious I just wanted to know why you would add this comment is all.

  triggerfox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Me? Well considering I commented to dragonzoomer and I know her... I'd say that rules me out of your "lonely in real life" claim.



  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  first off I never saw a calm orderly reply from you once and if i had I wouldn't be so mad right now. It jumped from me trying to explain why someone would do this and that they need help to me being a dog fucker? I don't even own a dog I had one for 19 years and she was put down due to the arthritis had started to cripple her and ruined her quality of life. I don't think I could ever replace her she was the perfect dog.

Secondly you ignore modern medical science... why would you even do that? if you honestly can't give someone a chance to become better and be right again then you sir have something wrong with you and should seek some of this mumbo jumbo as I believe you called it.

was this easier for you to read or should I start double spacing everything?

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  so it really was for the trolls?

  triggerfox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  If I were you. I'd probably just stop talking :\

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  why so you can talk bad about me more?

  siroc
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I wish FA had a thumbs up feature.

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  bucketochicken
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  That is by far the most STUPID comparison I've ever read. Do you really believe this?

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  okay first off a guy being attracted to a woman is natural that's why you don't talk about it that way. It would be rather stupid if you did. That's why we have other factors in the brain that lead to it and we can actually solve the issues at hand and make these people better more productive citizens. That's all I'm saying is that we don't need to have a witch hunt over this when what needs to be done is already being done. IT was done here in the journal itself and if you know someone who does fuck animals and you have proof you need to report that shit. Honestly I think it's odd how many people have tried to argue against my point of there being no need to post this journal around like we're mindless sheep. Also if they're non practicing zoophiles then they've had the help needed to overcome that issue... and if they still actually have the desire to fuck animals and just haven't yet that's not non practicing that's just waiting to fall off the wagon. If someone says they're non practicing you should report them for it so they can get the help they need to get over those urges.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  believe what that people have issues and need treatment? yes I do believe that sorry if you're one of the shockingly massive group of people who would rather just kill someone instead of get them help.

  lildragonguy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I don't give a fuck if you're gay or not, that is a grossly, deeply offensive comparison to make, and I have a good mind to report you for that bullshit statement. Go fuck yourself.

  triggerfox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  hahaha i know! I can't even remember how many times I wanted it to say "trigger likes this" under a comment or journal XD

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Report me for what saying that the brain doesn't always act in a natural behavior?

  bucketochicken
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yeah, kill them. Fuck due process.

If proving your point means that people are on the far end of either spectrum makes you look like a fool. "You don't want them to get treatment instead of punishment? THAT MEANS YOU WANT TO KILL THEM!"

Dumbass.

  jansrnovic
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  you like anything dirty

  jansrnovic
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  you can stop too

  lildragonguy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  No, for comparing bestiality to homosexuality. You know very well what I was referring to.

  -jes-
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Did you just equate the complete disregard, and even abuse, of another living entity, with possibly fatal consequences to the dog, all simply for your own short term sexual benefit..
.. To the act of two ADULT, CONSENT CAPABLE human beings of the same gender agreeing to have sex, with no lasting harm to either partner?

Not only are you making the most narrowminded, unsupported argument since Tara Swiftclaw's post in this journal, but.
You also show that you are entirely incapable of understanding the differences between consent, safe gay sex, and actual rape.

And not only that, but with every post in this journal of people trying to show you just HOW much wrong and/or misguided you are, you coil up like a snake and declare everyone a nazi witchhunter.
Egads man, take a step back, and look at what you've said. As I just said earlier, boy, it's TIME TO STOP POSTING!

  bucketochicken
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  If your brain's natural behavior is that you enjoy the idea of fucking dogs, that's fine. I have many interests that would be quite illegal if I were to act them out. The minute you ACT on it is the minute that you are breaking the law and therefore deserve punishment in the form of fines, jail time, mental hospitalization, psychological treatment, or whatever the court deems necessary.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I didn't say that all I want them to go through the proper proceedings which involves punishment and treatment. seriously what's so hard to understand about this. It's the fucking judicial system that governs like half of the world powers and the others that don't are considered dictatorships.

  bucketochicken
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm not defending him, but what would you report him for? OFFENDING you? I don't thing OFFENDING someone is against FA's ToS. Grow a set.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'll explain it better to you so you'll understand how it all works. Chemical signals inside the body cause people to be aroused by different things. Most of the non man on woman is considered bad which it is. However homosexuality has been deemed okay by society and has been allowed to flourish well okay only flourish recently. The fact that I was trying to make is that his brain isn't working properly and he needs to be treated for it. You know the whole rehablitation of criminals thing... yeah that's all I was trying to say with that comment.

Chemical mix up in the brain that needs to be fixed no need to kill someone because of it yes they did a horrible thing but it's already in the process of being taken care of according to this journal.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  the problem is if by taking a step back you mean letting it go and not caring about it I can do that but not caring about people calling me a doggie raper now that's just stupid why should i be okay with that?

  bucketochicken
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I don't know where the fuck you are going with that. They break a law, they get arrested, go to court, if the verdict is guilty then they are punished. If they are not able to get this "treatment" then they get to sit in jail for however long they are sentenced to.

In short, you're a dumbass for comparing homosexuality to zoophilia. Obviously you don't know of the countless non-practicing zoophiles there are compared to the people who actually have sex with animals. I guess some of us LOVE an animal more than we LUST for it. Quit defending rapists.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  .... this comment actually horrifies me... if you have thoughts of illegal acts you should seek proper medical attention.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm not defending rapist seriously if that's all you have to say then shut up you clearly haven't read a fucking thing I posted.

  bucketochicken
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yeah, rehabilitate criminals. That works.

How often do we hear about child rapists getting out and committing another severe crime against another child within weeks if not months after they are released?

  lildragonguy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  "Fur Affinity strives to allow users freedom of expression where possible, but asks users refrain from making comments, journals, statements or posting material which is racist, bigoted, defamatory, otherwise offensive towards any particular sexuality, philosophy, religion, illegal gambling (raffles, games of chance) or content alluding to illegal activity or child pornography. Disruptive behavior meant to interfere with the normal flow of the community will not be tolerated, and we frown upon mob tactics and organized harassment. Comments which are overly aggressive, personally insulting or abusive are prohibited."

In this case, it is.

  bucketochicken
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  God damnit. I thought all this time my SPEEDING habit was just a problem that I had with keeping my foot too far down on the throttle.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  it's called the legal system it doesn't work perfectly but for everyone one or two you hear about going back out and doing it again they'res hundreds if not thousands who don't.

  bucketochicken
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  All I read is you trying to justify people having sex with a being that cannot give consent.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I never said that at all. I simply stated that it does happen and people need to be treated to prevent it from happening again... what's so wrong with that?

and by treated for it I don't mean without punishment.

  bucketochicken
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Then report him.

See him get banned because he offended gay people by comparing the two. (Like that will happen)

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  lol I won't get in trouble for that it's common science fact. However I think if anyone wanted to get me in trouble I could probably be in trouble for calling jes a bitch.

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  STFU DICKHEAD

YOU HAVE NO RIGHT ON CHRITICSING

IDIOT

  likeshine
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

 
gosh, don't you understand?

ginzburg  ginzburg GETS THE WORLD

clearly we don't.

I get trolled by everyone who happens to be bored or really doesn't just fucking get the world.

clearly a super genius.

  lildragonguy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Cruise control. Nice.

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  CAPS LOCK IS BETTER THAN YOUR SHITTY TYPING AT LEAST

  lildragonguy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm sure.

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  ITS TRUE THOUGH

I PERSONALLY THINK YOU TYPE LIKE A RETARD OR ARE YOU SOME NIGGA WITH NO JOB ?

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  HEY ARE YOU THE RETARD I SEEN ON ED ???

WOW YOU FAG GET A LIFE

  mansonsdragon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You're not SUPPOSED to be attracted to animals though! As furry as you want to be, you are a HUMAN. You are not a wolfman, catman, or any other type of creature, and these are two entirely different spectrums of debate. Say what you want, but if a person has a sexual attraction to animals that way, they might want to try to find a way to overcome that, just in the same way someone that has thoughts of rape needs help to NOT have those thoughts anymore...


  iko
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  ginz you might wanna stop hun, I've taken about 10 minutes reading all of your things. This is a time to calm down and back down please?

  mansonsdragon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Normally I would leave this alone, but who gives you the right to declare consensual acts between two of the SAME SPECIES to something like non consensual rape of anything? There is a HUGE difference, and the fact that you would go around openly proclaiming this should mean YOU are the one that needs to be rehabilitated. Grow the fuck up and stop preaching your homophobic bullshit. Homosexuality exists in nature even, and it's a natural process for some of us. Even if it wasn't, we're not HURTING anyone by interacting with the rest of the community. The fact you've also proclaimed you hate these crusading manhunts on the internet, but will openly persecute one group in a very slanderous manner shows how hypocritical you are. May karma return and bite you in the ass a million times over you vile person.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I am calm o.O Just annoyed I've been called a dog fucker by so many people today... and for what believing in due process of the law?

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I have no beef with you o.o why would you even make this post? All I have been trying to do is explain how people like this need mental help and not to just be fucking killed for it. yet people seem to want to call me the bad guy because I believe in the judicial process. Does that really seem fair to you?

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I didn't persecute anyone dude o.O I was just trying to make a statement about how the brain works and why this person needs help. I also later explained how over time being gay has become acceptable.. I don't really understand how that's a homophobic bullshit statement.

  likeshine
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

 
i don't want anyone to be killed. when did i say that?

i believe in this person being punished, but not put to death.

  taijii
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm not going to scream and attack you but I will point out that one of the people who were caught and now banend here for their actions with animals did go and see a nurse practitioner. The result was that in his own words "So well anyway long story short. No meds, but I did get one thing I've been trying to get for a long time. A RX for either a Emotional Support Animal (ESA) or a Psyc Service Dog (PSD). Either one would make it easier for me to get a dog at my apartment complex. Her wording was "Emotional Service Dog" (6 of one half-dozen of the other) and so that should work."
Now how is this helping the animals or him? Maybe the nurse wasn't aware of what or how his other dogs or in his mind mates passed on. But the truth is with this kind of mental diease unless the medical staff are aware of it and it is brought to their attention by a veternarian or police records many cases such as this goes unnoticed and there for untreated while the poor animals suffer.

The above case the nurse wanted to give him a medical dog.. for his emotional abuse with losing his "mates" which in the nurses mind was probably a man or woman.. instead she or he just sentanced another dog to being abused.

It's not only public awareness but it's also we need to be aware of who we are handing animals over to. Vet records and things should be provided by people who adopt dogs, people who breed dogs should ask for referances espeically if they know the person inquiring about a dog just recently lost theirs. Everyone screams animal and people rights but how many people are taking action to stand against them not only in the medical field but also in adoption sites and breeders alone.

The current gentleman in which I quoted got the last "victim" of his affection off of petfinder dot com, he ended up paying a fee and in a span of less then a week the dog was assulted. The vet on hand after the dog was taken from him do to a fur who reported him after finding "over powering" evidence and called the police not only found out that his recent adoption was abused.. but his other dog that had to be put down was also abused and this gentlemans vet KNEW it. But the vet didn't report it until this finding...

So yeah these people are sick.. but so are the people who unlike the orignal poster didn't report it, or didn't bring attention to it didn't help matters either. It takes two to cause an issue these people need help as you say then people need to let others know when they find this type of thing happening and everyone needs to start taking responcibility for what they do. If you breed dogs check out your buyers, if adoption agencies adopt dogs out they need better background checks.. and if those people who can't afford to get their dogs fixed probably shouldn't own them period.

Truth is its not just one person in this royal mess its breeders, its people who don't get their animals fixed, its people not checking and screening people, its people not reporting the abuse to the proper people, and its people who think its none of their business so that these people never truly get the help they need.



  hoot
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  he doesnt even know who ebon lupus is....
i heard of that guy when i was 12
i dont think he can even make an arguement

  likeshine
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

 
ohhh, that guy was so creepy ;_;

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You didn't I just made it up like half the shit that's been said about me in this.

The truth is I started out saying one simple thing people didn't like. I didn't think this journal should be cloned and spammed around FA simple as that.

I'm not for dogging raping I think this person should be punished according to the law and yet since that entails him getting treatment for his mental issues a lot of people before you claimed I was white washing what he did whe nI never said that. Also people stated I that since I'm so pro the legal system that clearly I must be a doggie raper which is where a lot of my hostlity comes from at certain people in here.

  hoot
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  TELL ME ABOUT IT I HAD NIGHTMARES

  hoot
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  It can be cloned for the fact that people believe this was a wrong doing. If anything, maybe it'll allow the people who do fuck their animals and abuse them like this to think twice before acting. It sends a message and shows how cruelly the animals can be treated during acts like this.

If anything, it's human nature to pass on something they believe should be; they believe is right.
So I don't know why you're having a huffy about it in the first place. Your question isn't going to be answered. If people want to post it, it's not like they're going to see your comment and be like "OP WAIT THIS GUY HAS A PROBLEM WITH IT" they don't care. They believe spreading the word of this situation and showing people the violations of these acts can send the message to others that THIS is wrong and an animal should not be treated this way whether it be through sex, or just common abuse.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I couldn't agree with you more about everything you said .. in fact it's like half of what I've been trying to get across to these people. As for your example I can't really say I would be in the same place as I am in this case. Because there we had someone who needed help but no one had caught on to it well the vet did but the spinless jerk didn't do anything. I actually would say the vet in this case needs to be examined and looked into about his practice with animals. But in the case of this journal I feel that as much as could possibly be done was done.. if this was journal trying to figure out who this dude was to get him caught I would have been all for the clone journals but other wise it was simply a case of people spreading around some really nasty shit that most of us don't need to deal with simply because most of use don't know people who do this. But those of us that do usually take the proper actions to get those with the illness the help they need.

so simply I wanna ask why would you attack and scream at me if we was on the same level of feelings?

[this is in no way a yelling at you reply if that's how it come across I'm sorry not meant to be.]

  likeshine
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

 
see, i understand your point, that sometimes yes people are sick and they do need help. and it's cool to see the good in people, like i think you do.

but there really are bad people in the world too. i've been on the receiving end of some of that, and i truly believe there are some that are cruel just to be cruel.

it was just your statement that people were bored and trolling you and didn't understand the world that got to me. that's why i commented, i thought it seemed a bit egotistical. i think it's impossible to understand the world, things change every day. you can't predict what will happen, or when.

the person in this post is cruel, period. i don't wish death or bodily harm upon them at all. i just hope they are punished appropriately and will never harm another animal again.

so, i'm not trolling you, just disagreeing on a point or two you've made. make sense?

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  yes it does make sense.. but you can see how irrating it would be to try and say you believe in the the processes of the law and that the person responsible was already going through them and the point of having journals like this cloned is pointless and then to only be called a dog fucker and it wasn't like they was even joking they was full blown accusing me of raping dogs. I find that enraging to say the least and I'm sorry if I attacked you in my rage.

also I don't claim to understand and know all about the world but some of the stuff I've been talking about has been proven medical science for the last decade at least and to have people arguing it is really just sad in a way that it makes me honestly question the future of humanity.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You know what I dont care at this point I try and be nice and people are still dicks to me so I'm just gonna say it like it is.

I never said fucking animals was okay I've never fucked an animal in my life and I never will so yeah go ahead and agree with them again I don't give a shit.

  hoot
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Woah calm down for a second.
Not ONCE in my statement did I accuse you of liking dog sex. In fact, the fact that you jumped at me about that when I didn't even accuse you of it almost makes me think you are.
But I'm not one to think too rashly and assume that people are something theyre not.

I was simply answering your question and telling you WHY people are reposting this, and you kind of flew off the handle with it.
I really think you should stop replying, not because you 'lost this arguement' or whatever, because it looks like you're really getting frustrated and you shouldn't let this stress you out that much haha. If people don't agree with your opinion, then I guess it's just time to accept it. Everyone has different opinions.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  It's not about them not agreeing with me it's about them accusing me of dog rape which several have. Sorry I jumped on you because I was just assuming you was agreeing with them since that was the side of the arugment you seemed to be on. and honestly I never lost this argument it's hard to lose something you have science and the laws of nature on your side about.

  likeshine
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

 
yes, it's gotten pretty nasty in here. the usual for an epic FA thread i suppose


  kiboe
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  explain to me how "modern medical science" relates to the fact that you compared being gay to beastality.
just stop talking, please. while i agree it's getting out of hand and going viral on fa, just stop talking before you end up pissing more people off.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  it's simple I made the comparison very loosely and it was mostly my attempt to explain how the chemical processes that are triggered by a hetero male seeing an attractive woman and a homosexual male seeing an attractive male is the same that goes on when one of these people sees an animal.

Their brain isn't in the right state of working order and again I won't be sorry for stating facts about how the human brain works. I also won't be sorry for saying we need to treat people like this for their illness instead of just killing them. I feel that the person should be punished,treated and then released for a second chance but I'm probably a bit stupid thinking that people can change their ways.

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  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  lol wait you're mad??

guess what? i dont believe it. just fucking deal with it. and yes my most recent replies have been calm. i dont ignore all medical science, i just believe that some of it is BULLSHIT

maybe you should learn proper english 83

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  but they dont go around raping people.

dude there are people that hear voices daily that tell them to murder, but most DONT. its completely inexcusable.

  kiri-vixen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  *thumbs up!!!!

  raiku
 

(+1) Posted: 3 years ago

  [/i]*thumbs up*[/i]

  muddy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  is this on fd_2 yet?

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  check yourself if you wanna know.

  muddy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  was more saying it to be snarky at this dumb shit, not actually asking

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  sarcasm doesnt translate well via text 8U

  muddy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  nup :<

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  duskwitherkahzza
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I wish I could like this post, but we're not on FB so I'll just give you a thumbs up.

  bobskunk
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Illegal != wrong, just so you know

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I do know that... thanks for umm backing my side... *blinks.*

  bobskunk
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  No, I wasn't. Smoking weed is illegal, so if someone thinks about smoking weed, you think they should get help?

The difference is, it doesn't involve raping non-consenting animals, which IS wrong.

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  well that and weed is only illegal because of racism in the late 1920 to the early 1930's to many mexicans getting decent money off of it during the depression.

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  then ignore it?
we dont have a lot of information on him until saturday apparently, but when we do get more information its possible we could find more evidence online. its possible he's abused other dogs and other animals. any videos, pictures, or comments he made might help in him getting in more trouble then he already is.

  benchilla
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I think my favorite part was just how completely obvious he tried to make it that he fucks his dog, like you "get" that sort of thing because you work around animals or something. What is wrong with some people, ughhhh

  hipstar
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Because acting on your kinks isn't harmful to others.. fuck everyone man

  elwolfo
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  DUDE WTF that pissed me off reading it if some guy like that i dunno man if i even knew some one did that i would of beat the living shit out of them i cant belive that shit thats fucked up people suck...

  ginzburg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  dude that's exactly what I think about this.

  hipstar
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Welp. Glad that guy had the cops called on him. Anyone thinking having sex with animals isn't abuse but pleasure.. welp look up at this story.
Tis abuse, sex is a weapon. This shit's wrong. Fuck that guy.
May that dog find peace.

  thewhitedragon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  in before dogfucker excuse saying "BUT ITS AWWRIGHT, DOG LUVS ME AND BARKED FOR CONSENT!"

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  THOSE ARE TEARS OF JOY

  kiboe
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  THOSE WHIMPERS ARE PLEASURE WHIMPERS!

yeah, i've heard them too.

  lolitaofthevoid
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  This is the first time I've chuckled while scrolling through the comments.

"One for yes, two for no... or was it... eh. Details."

Maybe I'm thinking of the counting horse...

  thewhitedragon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  christ on a cracker! I just went to take a nap and now theres like 4000x more comments D:

  mstover
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Reading this just made me shake my head. It's sad what happened here. But call me odd, but what I find even sadder is this idiot didn't even TRY to cover the facts up. Just joked around like as if it's NOTHING WRONG and expected the vets to fix the dog up like as if it was a broken washing machine. Seriously? Are people getting dafter by each generation? Poor dog is going to be put down. It's amazing it lived this long....but way to long for that type of abuse and pain. And this guy.......IF he's really a furry, really damns our image further. I hope there's justice somewhere out of this.

  xitwa
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Saddest part is that this guy will probably get off on probation. Animal cruelty laws are horrendously lax in the USA - in most states, the maximum is 1 year, and a small fine (1,000-10,000 bucks).

  hipstar
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  dont fret, this is new jersey, everything's strict here.

  taijii
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I REALLY wish I didn't eat before I read this.... *sighs* I'm going to cross post if you don't mind.

  sulacoyote
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  People like this should be dragged into the street and be publicly shot.

  vertigo1
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Nah, that would be too quick. I say shoot him in the nuts with a taser, and let it go until his nuts explode!

  sulacoyote
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm not into sadism or cruelty, just general lack of mercy or giving a fuck.

  wolfwithglasses
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Save the bullet, make him suffer until he wants to die and is begging for it.

  siroc
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Whose right would it be to torture him?

  wolfwithglasses
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  The same question counts for shooting him, whose right is it? As long as dogs and other pets are treated like property, no one has the right.

I mean what is the highest punishment the guy can get for doing this to the dog?

  siroc
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Well from what it seems to me, torture as punishment almost seems as if it also serves to give some form of gratification to the punisher, where as say the death penalty is strictly to serve justice and/or remove a disruptive 'member' or society.

As for what the highest punishment he can get, I honestly have no idea. Hopefully it's no less than he deserves, of course, but remember that the laws are in place to protect our society and way of life and the individuals in it. If his crime is not seriously affecting our society (And I mean human society as a whole) then I can't really see his punishment being all that severe. But then again, I'm no expert.

Still disgusted, either way :O

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  wolfwithglasses
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Sure, the laws are necessary for human society. My hope is, that the responsible judiciary will ensure that this person will never be able to get a dog again.

  vertigo1
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Normally I'm not, but in cases like this I'm willing to make an exception.

  carablack
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  people who do this need to have what they do to animals done to them, themselves.

  vertigo1
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Please tell me this asshole resisted arrest, so the arresting officer could taze the fuck out of him. >:(

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  i wish, he was not arrested in my workplace.

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  wolfwithglasses
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  This sounds like a bad horror movie.

I would love to torture this bastard until he begs for his death.

  silverclaw1
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  ....What a sick fuck...
*throws up*

I hope this guy gets thrown in prison and raped to death.



  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I BET YOU FUCK DOGS TOO BECAUSE AFTERALL YOU ARE A FURFAG

  silverclaw1
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  U GOT ME! MURR

lol

  kwolf13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Wow, words cannot describe how disgusted I am.

This right here is the reason the fandom has such a bad name. Because of sick fucks like that. I mean, seriously, having sex with the dog is bad enough. You have to mutilate it too? What the hell was he thinking?

And you know what the sad part is? This guy won't get the rightful punishment he deserves. He'll go to jail for 1-3 years (or 1-5 if New Jersey is a state where animal abuse is a felony) and pay up to $5,000 in fines (or $25,000 if animal abuse is a felony in NJ)

Not a nearly good enough punishment if you ask me. But hey, maybe the embarrassment of people knowing he wrecked his dog in such an obscene way will be enough to make him off himself. One can only hope...

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  i was thinking that! like i couldnt have just said a few seconds ago out loud 'wouldnt it suck if he offed himself before he can be charged'

  kwolf13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Hopefully he doesn't do it the pussy way and use carbon monoxide or something..

In fact, I hope he tries to hang himself and screws it up, hanging there for hours suffocating. That'd be fine by me.

I'm going to giggle merrily if this guy is on FA somewhere and all of a sudden opens commissions because he needs thousands of dollars really fast.

  phunkiezero
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  If you mess up and don't die instantly when trying to hang yourself the most you're going to suffocate for is approx 1-3 minutes before blacking out and not feeling yourself die

  kwolf13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Eh, take what you can get. I can think up a few more scenarios on how he should go, but I think we all get the picture

  incitedjester
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Fight Club comes to mind. Bite the bullet, but even in your mouth... you have to aim for the brain.

  orbyss
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  This is why I think people should require some sort of license to care for any animal more intelligent than a rat. The total lack of empathy some people have is mind-boggling, and the results of their actions on others (including, or especially, other animals) is heartrending.

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  hey hey hey, rats are very intelligent and often are compared to dogs--- buttt i know what you mean. i really think there should be certain rules and licenses to own any sort of animals. includeing goldfish (how many untimely deaths they suffer...) but its just i never thought id walk into work and see this face to face, internet got real FAST

  orbyss
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oops. I mean rats and above. Yeah, I used to breed them and train them, and they'd play with my dogs when I Was a kid. I couldn't handle how short their lifespans were, though, so I gave it up. Allergies didn't help.

I can't even. You are a stronger person than I, I probably would have gone ballistic on the guy right there.

  kiboe
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  yeah but i don't think anyone would want to.......fuck a fish.

  hyperhusky
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You shouldnt have even said that...because there WILL be someone who must have at least tried that.. :/ Lol

  torenzabbic
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  That poor dog. Who would do that kind of thing to their pet?!

  unfreakish
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  It seems everyone is now mad.

Rightfully so in my opinion.

>:T

  nolen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  This is so so sad, I actually just got a rescue golden, and to think, the horrors these animals have to endure. It's just awful.

  enkaixiomasa
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  This is further reason why I have no faith in humanity.

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  AND YOUR MOM

NO WAIT I FUCKED HER LAST NIGHT

  prettykitty13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  How could you have sexylovintiems with someone's mom without having any faith in her? :c

  seyloren
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I hope that's what his autopsy reveals after they find him dead in a prison shower.

  seyloren
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Im actually at the vet with my newly adopted family member. Reading about this here makes me look at my dog and be thankful that I got to her before someone like that did.

  missink
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oh god, not only do I want to cry for this poor dog
I'm really disgusted..like my stomach is just so queezy right now >.<
the poor dog ;-; he didn't deserve all that pain just because some retard wanted to get his own pleasure and self satisfaction.

I sincerely hope he gets what he deserves!

  baltoracing
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  This is only going to make me work harder in pushing Charity's Law to come to fruition. For those that don't know, if the law gets passed, it would make bestiality not only illegal, but a felony in all 50 states.

More Info: http://www.examiner.com/dogs-in-nat.....-charity-s-law
Petition: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/take.....n/868/425/254/
Facebook Page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Chari.....64206296961739

Plus if you did not know already, there are two anti-bestiality groups here on FA, nobeastiality  nobeastiality and stopfuckinganimals  stopfuckinganimals.

Helping in passing that law is how I will use my anger after reading what that deplorable, inhumane piece of shit did to his dog and was smug about it. It leaves me shaking mad that someone would do that to any animal, just pathetic.

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  links are broken

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  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  thank you!

  baltoracing
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oh it did work! Whoops lol. You're welcome, I'll put it up again.

More info: http://www.examiner.com/dogs-in-nat.....-charity-s-law
Petition: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/take.....n/868/425/254/ (Pushing towards 17,000 signatures!!!!)
Facebook group: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Chari.....64206296961739

  willowwhispers
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I signed it

  baltoracing
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Thank you!

  willowwhispers
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  My pleasure. Its already a felony in TN but hopefully soon it will be a felony everywhere.

  baltoracing
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm glad Tennessee is ahead of the curve! It is only a misdemeanor here in my state of Maryland.

  willowwhispers
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I personally want to set each and every animal abuser on fire. Not even to kill em just set em on fire and walk off.
Let em suffer like the poor animals do.

  baltoracing
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I feel the same way. My pets are my family, so let someone try any of that crap around them and they will see a side of me they wish they never saw.

  willowwhispers
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Same I lvoe all my animals they are like my kids I cant fathom abuse like this

  baltoracing
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Same here, glad to hear that!

  dreamprophecy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Signed it.Thank you for posting this

  trashedbat
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Signed.

Fucking, it should have already been a felony, but yanno.

  baltoracing
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  No problem and thanks for signing!

  baltoracing
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Amen to that. Thank you so much for signing the petition!

  bigboobsmcgoo
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  This makes me feel better about living in Tennessee.

  -ko-
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Please fix the links and ask to have this posted in the journal. I'd sign with no hesitation.

  baltoracing
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Try the second one I just put up. If that doesn't work I'll PM it to you and see if that works.

  -ko-
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Thank you, it worked.

  baltoracing
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Sweet! No problem and thanks a million for signing! It is a major help to this important cause.

  nobe
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I signed, number 16,965 or something like that. I think it's going quite fast.

  baltoracing
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Sweet! Thank you so much for signing! It is certainly gaining strength and I like that.

  kiboe
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  already illegal in nebraska, not a felony though.....misdimeanor fucking a, nebraska no, they are too fucking focussed on making a way to be exempt from national health care *sigh*

  baltoracing
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Hopefully if Charity's Law can get passed it will be a felony nationwide. It's only a misdemeanor in Maryland too.

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  and in ny 8c

  disturbiawolf
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I have to say that is rather grotesque what you are describing. I'm sorry you had to see this type of thing. Its rather appalling actually. I can't believe people are this sick and fucked up in the head. I'm pretty sure the guy himself wouldn't like this to happen to him if he was a dog. I can honestly say I would probably be feeling the same way as you are if I'd seen this type of thing... in fact it would probably make me physically sick seeing this.

Its a shame the poor dog has to be put down man. A dogs life being put to an end by a sick fuck like this. This dude will get whats coming to him, I'm sure of it. Its inhumanity to the biggest extreme

  radku
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm kind of hugging my own dog right now. I can't even describe how i feel, though there's little to do about it.

Luckily there isn't a lot of zoophiles here in Argentina, at least, none that i heard of in so many fucked up places.

  luimeril
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  i said this in another journal. poor boy. i really hope they can save him. :< pets are NOT fuck toys. they're creatures to be loved and cherished. the guy needs to be shanked. with a rusty pointy thing. :<

  wat44
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  lol

  synthariadesire
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm reposting this btw~

And it's horrible :< I for one won't judge people for their preferences, but there is always a fine line between finding something sexually attractive, and then acting on it. Even worse, when it's acted upon in such a harsh and detrimental manner.

As a dog owner, and my family being the type to breed and show them, this makes me incredibly sad for the dog :(

  psychotickitten
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Careful, last few people to repost it got trolled.

  lemurfreax
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  This makes me want to cry so hard...
How could anyone..Do that to their animals, too me, raping and beating an animal is no different than if you went and raped a child or baby...It's sick and wrong.
I try my best not too wish bad things on people..
But, when it comes to things like this, I can't help but wish people like this get shot.
It's terrible..But what they do is terrible and disgusting..
I think I'm going to throw up...


  omnichromiogasm
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS
UGH

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  AND YOURE THE FURFAG TO BLAME

  omnichromiogasm
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  IKR? GAWD

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  YES NOW GTFO YOU SICK FUCKER

  tabernak
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  So no name? Not even a picture?

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  nope. in my edit i clearly stated that i wont have any names till saturday, all i have is what he and his shirt looked like

  tabernak
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Ok

I'm really confused as to how he was allowed to leave the store, or.. anything. Did he leave after you called the cops, but while the dog was still in your care? Did you return the dog to him? If so, why? Wouldn't you have a name from his appointment, credit card, sign in sheet, whatever? Or did the dog just chill there for a while with no info on his owner at all?

It's just a confusing story :)

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  its pretty simple actual, looking down at the dog you see nothing wrong besides his nose looked squish. we get alot of creeps in new jersey so the man left and i went to go work on the dog where i soon found everything wrong, then the person was caught. and again, im an employee, i dont handle all the paperwork thats what a boss is for, there for when i go back to work on saturday i will be able to get the information. im not going to call my boss and ask him for creditcard information over the phone?

and then it says later on in my journal how the people who came to further inspect the dog took him.

  aralyn-cadence
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2439456/

spreading the word

  coffinberry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Why are people reposting this?

  psychotickitten
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Why not?

  coffinberry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  No, I am curious as to why ity's being reposting, I'm not being sarcastic. The guy was caught and all...

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  you said nothing out of line, i dont understand why people are on your back.

  coffinberry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Me either o_O

I know the guy was caught and all, it's not like he's a wanted criminal that needed to be found. Was just curious.

  kwolf13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I was curious too, but I guess maybe people are trying to see if he has an FA profile or something? I mean, it could be to harass him in all honesty, buuut if they can prove it's the same person they can have him banned from here.

Personally, from my viewpoint I'd have no problem in blowing up his FA if he has one (which I'm willing to bet he does) but from an admin's viewpoint I think that'd be a bad idea xD

I think reporting him would suffice. Find him on other sites and do it there

  psychotickitten
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I wasn't on their back. I was just asking. If i was on someone's back, i'd be a real bitch. And I'm not

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  well just.. cool it man, you commenting on quite of a few peoples inputs here.

  psychotickitten
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  It's not like i'm bashing on anybody or trolling. I like to comment.. I don't see why that's a bad thing.

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  it also encourages other people to fallow in your behavior. im not looking to start something. im just saying. other people can take your comments and see it as an attack, and like everything that is E, people will jump on the chance to do so aswell.

  psychotickitten
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  There is no reason for anyone to see anything I say as an attack. I've not attacked anyone, and if people really want to see me sympathizing with the journal as an attack on everyone, then that's not my problem..

  coffinberry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Instead of replying with "why not", if you would have replied with your comment as you did down below, the OP might not have seen it as you being on one's back. It was a vague/defensive reply to an honest question.

  psychotickitten
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Actually, mine was an honest question as well. I don't understand why someone wouldn't, but I'm not gonna bitch at someone for not. I wasn't being vague or defensive. It was an honest question. There, i've explained myself, now can we stop attacking me and accusing me of doing the same thing?

  coffinberry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oh my lord. Yes your majesty. Continue on.

  psychotickitten
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Now who is being rude. Geez..

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  YOUR MOM

  psychotickitten
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  cute

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  YEAH I FUCKED YOUR MOM

  psychotickitten
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Good luck running from my step-dad's motorcycle XD

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  YOU SIR MAKE A WORSE LIAR EVER

STUPID FURFAG

  psychotickitten
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  On 4chan, we're all furfags. Woot

  psychotickitten
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  To let people know that there's idiots out there unknowingly intent on putting a bad name on furries. Cus most non-furries will say "Oh, furries f*ck animals!", instead of blaming the whole disgusting bestiality fetish, cuz just because we're furries doesn't mean we want anything to do with bestiality. Furry Fandom is consistently misunderstood as a fetish, and not a community like anime fans, star wars junkies, etc..

  coffinberry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Then they should repost it on a site that... non.. furries would read it? Makes more sense.

  psychotickitten
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Well, that's the problem, is the second someone posts it on a non-furry site, people don't realize that furries are against this too. They always blame us.

  coffinberry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'll try it out and give you the results.

  psychotickitten
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oh people won't tell you to their face usually. They'll just discriminated and judge furries and spread it around outside of it. My boss wouldn't even listen to me when I tried explaining to him that being a furry is not a sexual thing, and i know for a fact he didn't believe me even when he nodded at me. I just wish the discrimination against our fandom would stop. But hey, if you get good results, by all means, lemme know. That'd be amazing. =3 And I am being sincere i promise.

  bucketochicken
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Discrimination against furries? Can you explain that for me please?

'Cause being one who lives in the American South in an area that up until 50 or so years ago was highly segregated, I've yet to see ANY discrimination against furries. Then again, I live in the real world, not the internet.

  psychotickitten
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oh this is very much real world. I deal with it every day, especially running my own costume business. The second someone hears "Furry", they start going on about how furries are so creepy and disgusting, and how people can't stand the though of people in animal costumes f*cking other in costume, or screwing animals and all that stuff. And then I get bitched at about how I shouldn't ever support such disgusting people, and then i mention that I'm a furry as well, and next thing I know, im an outcast cuz people assume ALL FURRIES F*CK ANIMALS. I hear it way too much.

  bucketochicken
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You know how I manage to NEVER be discriminated against?

I DON'T TELL ANYONE THAT I AM A FURRY and my real name is pretty damn hard to find PLUS it s a VERY common name. My boss doesn't know shit about me being a furry, nor does anyone else I come in contact with. I know that people think all furries fuck dogs and that all furries fuck in costumes, so I choose to avoid the stigma by not bringing up my "hobby" of being a furry. Nobody outside of the fandom gives a rats ass about you being a furry, so stop telling people that you are one.

DISCRIMINATION SOLVED.

  coffinberry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  A+

  strawberryneko
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Agreeing with you though I'm a bit more open.

Thing is, I won't straight out say I'm a fur because people take it badly. I will explain that I like to draw anthro art, explain what it is and say I have a character that represents me for it. When you explain like that, more so to more open minded people, it doesn't sound so bad, plus, to them, it doesn't sound like a creepy obsession.

  bucketochicken
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You have tact; something most furries lack.

  strawberryneko
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I've noticed >< Some furs are just so...well, they shouldn't be wondering why people bash furs so much. It's not just the rumors of being dog fuckers, doing things in suit, it also has a lot to do with attitude.

  bucketochicken
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I can understand where it comes from, but you can all boil it down to teh difference between the fantasy dreamland that is the basement computer room that it called "mom's basement" and reality. Yes, furries do seem to be really accepting of others outright. They feel that this new-found acceptance of who they are should be okay everywhere in their area and have no problem telling their boss and co-workers that they like to wear animal costumes in their time off.

Sorry, my boss is a good-old boy from backwoods Georgia. He won't know that I'm BI, let alone that I'm a furry. But even then after the years of service and reliable attendance and the fact that I am only one of two employees he has means I have some good job security. (I've only missed two days total in two years, one was a planned day off for FWA2010, the other was when I was in the hospital)

  strawberryneko
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yes, I've noticed that it's been a problem with them. I'll be honest where I think it's even worse with babyfurs. (Not one myself, but I draw kids). A lot, though not all of course, push what they like onto you and you're a horrible person if you're not ok with it. Me, I'm a very open person and don't care what you're into as long as no one or anything is being harmed and you're not pushing it on and talking about it.



  littleblue-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  this x100

It's like.....I understand someone coming out as Trans/Gay etc to their parents but why do i always read so many "how do i come out as a furry to my parents?" posts.

Just.....why?

Just special snowflake syndrome imo

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  you know how i manage?

i dont hide it. if you hide it then you make it sound like its something terrible. I explain it as being like liking anime or star trek. i think fluffy walking talking furry animals are cute and too bad if people hate me for that.

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  THIS. wtf?? its just stuffed animals, im not gonna "come out" im gonna tell them.

I Told my mom i was furry, she said cool and helped me make a tail.

I told my mom i was trans, she kicked me out.

one does not equal the other.

  littleblue-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  +1

  thewhitedragon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You forget something very important..
for your average "furfag" to do that, would require "having sense", which the furgags completely lack.
they love to toss their fetiches and shit into everyone's troaths.

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  i was the first to repost it because it upset me, and it felt good to vent about it on my journal. me and her practically live together too so while i'm fortunate enough to not have witnessed it, its still been pretty upsetting to imagine that. :/
i would imagine people are reposting it to vent as well. being that since so many people do know about it now, when we do get a name its possible we might find more information about him online that could lead to more evidence against him.

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  why arent you?

  anthrosaurian
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I… I really don't know what to say to that. The poor thing.

  -ko-
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm here via a friend's journal.... and I threw up a little.

I cannot believe that someone could do that to any sort of pet. DISGUSTING. That guy needs to be castrated and locked up for the rest of his life with a giant man named Bubba to make him feel just like the helpless dog he so messed up. XPPP

  velux
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Disgusting. Absolutely revolting. I hope this sick fuck gets thrown in jail so... well, so the same thing can happen to him, if you catch my drift.

  gir-skunk
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  wow..just holy crud wow...thats beyond screwed ive watched those animal abuse shows on animal planet with poor animals starved to death and stuff like that but nuthing like this and man i hope that person gets raped in prison at least theyed know SOME of the pain they caused the poor pup. ill repost this to spread the news

  psychotickitten
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm actually glad it wasn't on some show.. furry discrimitation would go through the roof!

  gir-skunk
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  yea

  thespidersfrommars
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm sorry you had to witness something like this, but I'm also in a way glad that you did so you could get that creep charged with something. Thank you for recalling the details despite how awful they are, thank you for posting this. I'm hoping someday laws are more strict on this. Nothing deserves to go through that kind of pain, human or animal..

  adiago
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  this is absolutely horrifying and disgusting..people like that really shouldn't be allowed to breed, let alone live.
Doing something so horrifying to a poor animal, jesus fuckign christ..

I just cant even think right after reading this, it made my stomach churn. if it had been me, i'd have lost my job that day.

  psychotickitten
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Why would you have lost ur job? Tried to kill him right there? I know I would. I would have gone off on him

  adiago
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  yeah, I would have beat the guys ass. seriously. I have dogs, i've had them my whole life. I absolutely love and worship my pets and treat them like members of the family. to see or hear about something a slow and despicable as this makes my blood just boil.

and the worst thing is that poor dog will either be put down or have sever traumatization for the rest of its life.

  psychotickitten
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Exactly. I hate so much of this. And while all of us are raging about how horrible this is, there are people out there blaming FURRIES! As I said in a comment somewhere up there, Furry Fandom is consistently misunderstood as a fetish, and not a community like anime fans, star wars junkies, etc..

  adiago
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  but the sad news is a lot of people who fuck animals are ALSO furries.
and it only takes one of those freaks to give the entire fandom a bad rap

  psychotickitten
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I know, right? That's what I hate about stupid idiots like that.

I just wish I could make every non-furry realize that the fandom isn't a fetish. If someone wants to f*ck their dog, that's their personal fetish.. that it has nothing to do with the fandom. This whole situation is just so horrible

  azurion
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  That's the same with anything, it takes one fanatical nutjob to screw up everything for everyone else that has a level head and such. Hard learned lesson that I got courtesy of the military.

  sneaksy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Wow, that's sick. I never really gave it much thought before, but seriously wtf. I can't believe that. That poor dog. I hope that guy gets put away for a long time. The dog didn't deserve any of that.

  ryuuio
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I hope the guy gets the highest punishment possible.
I'm not sure what it'd be exactly, but it shouldn't be generous in the SLIGHTEST sense.
This is just fucking sick.

  nelsondemifur
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Wow....My soul just threw up a little. I know he's goign to be eating crow in once he goes to jail. Well Crow, Ralph, Victor, and Little Hector

  elleiahst
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  all we can hope is that this guy has the same thing done to him in prison

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  tbh i don't have a problem with bestiality but that's just fucked up, like where the dog has injuries very very noticeable injuries from stuff like that your obviously one who should not be doing that kind of thing (referring to the retarded fat guy).

that guy needs some major help and i do hope the dog is still able to survive and have a better owner!

before anyone goes to say that bestiality is wrong it always hurts the animal or its not consent, remember as a race were all animals so those arguments are pretty much invalid.

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  when we say animals were are usually refering to "non-human animals".

there is a difference between humans and non-human animals. humans can actually give consent.

  mechasheep
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  to be honest i hate how we separate ourselves like some sort of higher race. humans are not the only animals who can give consent to sexual activities eue dophins are probably the best example of this.

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  we are the 'highest' race, whether or not you think so.
dolphins are incredibly intelligent to the point where i am sure they are even well aware that harassing/hurting other dolphins are terrible, but they still do it anyway because its fun. but are dolphins dogs? no. they are not. a dog is not a dolphin. they are on two completely different levels of intelligence. just as humans are on a difference scale of intelligence.

but due that we are on a higher level, its also our job to look out for the little guys. if its not our job, then the very least we can do is treat them with some respect.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  you sound inferior, bro are you so inferior out of dislike of feeling inferior you call all else inferior?

theres more examples of superiority in life that could put you to shame dude so i suggest you don't focus on one piece of information but all pieces of information before you claim your among any race or species that's superior.

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  bro bro bro bro bro bro


show me another animal besides humans that have our level or a superior level of intelligence and capabilities. might i specific the intelligence of an adult human, by the way.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  umm dolphins for instance or the honey bee has its own unique system for surviving and gathering its food and so on. you cant just claim were better thinkers just because what so many individuals have accomplished, what many of us accomplish as a race that many speciecs of animals accomplish in one lifetime. hows that for being inteligent.

  tabernak
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  haha

  foxfairy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  :/ Honeybees and dolphins have never developed abstract thinking, mathematics, or written language. Humans are the only "animals" who are capable of thinking about how other animals feel in a moral sense. Humans are on a higher plane of intelligence than the rest of the species on this planet.

  carwyn
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  What's wrong? The honey was asking for it, waving it's thorax around like that!

  carwyn
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  honey BEE, rather. I mean it can accomplish SO MUCH in it's lifetime so it must be ok to have sex with it

  mechasheep
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  yes i know, im just saying that its wrong to say that we as humans are the only animal who can give consent eue cause we are not.

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Humans have a higher intelligent level and understand each other. since we cannot understand animals, we do not know what they want. we do not know animal body language either, so we wouldnt know if its a yes or no. even with human rape cases, if one says no but acts as if she meant yes (unless in fantasy rape) its still rape.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  to understand another we must be as they are but since we aren't our ways are just unique to our anatomy saying were superior for that kind of thing is redundant.

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  im sorry but i dont understand what you are trying to say. are you just repeating yourself?

it sucks to think of, but if youd look around youd realize that we are in charge. we can create powerful things and we think instead of going solely on instinct like many animals. realize this; VERY FEW ANIMALS HAVE SEX FOR FUN!

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  in charge my ass were likely to be overrun by nature than to be in control.

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  once again you're not making sense.

  househead
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  don't bother babbling with him. He's got a superiority complex and has his healthy amount of threads on lulz and dammitfreehaven. He responds to logic with quotes, things that sound cool, type shortcuts and typos.

I've never for beastiality, I'm against it, albeit my upbringing or just my own personal opinion I've carved out through life.

It really does irritate me how a lot of people come in and condone having sex with animals in a journal like this, BECAUSE PROLAPSING YOUR DOG AND CUTTING HIS SHEATH OFF IS TOTALLY FINE AMIRITE?

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  i realized. sad really.

ITS LIKE BEING GAY

  mechasheep
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  this iss....wrong too eue we do understand animal body language, not all animals no, but we do understand that when a dog wags its tail its happy, but when a cat does, it is not. we understand when an animal looks scared or threatened, or is in a cuddling mood.

to say we dont understand animal behavior is bullshit. we do, and they understand ours. eue

dolphins, again, prime example of this. there are many cases where dolphins have decided that they like us enough to want to mate with us. i think thats pretty clear and understandable body language eue;

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  true fact ignorant one minded tools cannot think to save their lives, eg the people above. they refuse to learn more than they know and use the i went to school i know enough tactic to justify their arrogance.

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  want to point out where someone used "i went to school" as an excuse?

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  retard another perfect example of why your too stupid to even read and comprehend. im going by a history of how people choose to do things and what ive encountered, there's even more i could add but im afraid you'll go and baww to the admins that im defaming your name life and overall intelligence.

i never said it was in this journal or where it was!

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  calm down. you dont want to anger that demonic celestial catdog inside of you. you might hurt someone.
no one is reporting you, unless you'd like to admit you fuck animals then i would be happy to file a trouble ticket for you. :)

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  sorry but to admit something i really do not do is redundant. but if you would like to prove even more of how stupid you are then go ahead no ones stopping you only your ego of superiority is doing that.

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I BET YOU FUCK KIDS AT SCHOOL YOU DIRTY SICK PEDO BEAR

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  was this directed at me lol?

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  YES CAUSE I FELT LIKE IT JUST FOR THE HELL OF IT

IDIOT

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  i'm going to assume you are pale tailed fox or something.

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  NO I AM NOT WTF ARE YOU TALKIN ABOUT ???

GTFO

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  why are you so angry and why did you make an account JUST to post here?

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  BECAUSE YOU ARE A FURFAG WITH NO LIFE THAT LIVES IN MOMS BASEMENT FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  i live in the attic.

  carwyn
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  what the fuck is with this "eue" business? Are you a damn retard?

  mechasheep
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  uhhh...its a chat face. xD;; just a...relaxed chat face. because i wasnt trying to start anything, i was just stating a fact.

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  funny thing is. we dont understand enough to actually have a sexual relationship with it. sorry but its just not right.

  vickychaitea
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You don't know what redundant means.

  hyperhusky
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Upper class furry ;)
Same here xD

  kayote
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  ...do you know what redundant means? You totally used that word in the wrong context. Just saying.

  evoimako
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  same here as well XD

  multani82
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  HA I got you beat I live in the basement with my loyal subjects of sock puppets.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Even so, under that fact were all animals so making exemptions because we see ourselves as more superior are obviously confunding many people.

hell you sound confused, you confused bro?

well at least i wouldn't fuck a dog or any animal for that matter, but lets say if said dog screwed me i wouldn't have an issue with it.

tbh people like you would say well he let the dog screw him he is still hurting it where obviously the dog is more likely to hurt them. so i suggest you think about this before you go hating on every zoophile or bestiality practitioner because some don't do this sort of thing to animals its the other way around.

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  just by letting a dog fuck you could just encourage bad behavior. most humping that a dog does is for dominance. i guess you weren't here when Java was caught fucking dogs. her dog got unhandable because it thought it was tough shit from being allowed to dominant and therefore was no longer a desirable dog. youre not just 'releasing his stress' or whatever you guys call it.


i suggest you look at your life. look at your choices.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  lol i like how you assume one persons life choices mean everyone lol.

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  lol bro are u mad bro lol i think ur mad bro lol bro

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  seems that's your comeback. cool story bro got any more excuses to be just another dumdum.

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  i'm sorry. you're just impossible to take seriously. you are just as stupid as the guy in this journal.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  im sorry but can you prove that statement or are you going by how much you dislike the actions.


hell i think your too emotional to even be taken seriously, so dude i suggest you step away from the computer and go outside see more of the world before coming back.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Please. Pleasepleaspleaseplepalseplspes take your own advice.

Please.
If not for you, for me.

  househead
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  ^ This.

Seriously, why do people even respond to this kid?

  missink
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Most people do not know how to read animal body language.
IN FACT most people cannot read other people's body language.

YES we are animals but we also a different category of species, i'm not saying we are superior but we developed what is known as consciousness. HUMANS DON'T USE INSTINCTS OR DRIVE like an animal does. An animal knows how to survive, solve problems, and how to react. They have certain instincts that we don't because their mind isn't as complex as ours.
I'm not saying their inferior, other animals are much more intelligent but most of the animals we are talking about have not developed consciousness or thought process like we do.
They feel the same way yes but we as a species developed sex for pleasure and other ideals to sex while animals still strive to procreate.
Animals use thoughts to problem solve "if i do this i get that"
while humans use thoughts to solve more than one problem "i can do this and that and still get this"

A dog does have the ability to attack but will it? If it loves it's master so much and does everything he says, it doesn't want to harm the one who feeds him
Pets love to please us believe it or not whether that's a good thing or bad thing.

Animals in heat will always offer themselves because that is what their biological needs are
but as humans we are not capable to have sex with other species because of the way our genitals were designed
We in fact will hurt the animal whether it's physical or mental

You do know that animals rape other animals too right?
they're showing no consent but the animal doesn't care or can't read that body language.
Or their drives lead them to procreate but they're not showing emotion, it's just a basic neccessity.
It's not that they want, it's just what is biologically there, it was meant as a way to bare children during months not a sign to fuck.
Some animals don't have the power to say no or the strength, dogs usually are domesticated enough to be told what to do without a second doubt

Also most zoophiles/bestiality train their dogs to mount them <--- true fax
the dog doesn't know any better

RAPE is RAPE either way

I'm not here to troll or anything but please look at this with an open mind

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  i didnt read your post but i believe the bits i did are true. ill read and reply properly tho.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  ok after reading i have to suggest to you to add more this is how most professionals start but some end it with this and forget to add that animals will still do things while thinking, example some of the human race has soared above expectation and only cause they were unique. don't forget consciousness means knowing your there or alive knowing that which is you. yet it isnt speech speech ranges from our species words to super sonic sounds right into normal sounds we assume is either water dripping or a tap on glass animals can still give consent all thats proven is that its through body language, or as some put it bluntly training. also sorry if some of my reply isnt very well written i tried XD

  missink
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I wrote my reply based on what i'm learning not only in biology but psychology
actually consciousness has it's own definition depending on what you're talking about it. It is a very big role in how we behave or our personality is and also unconscious forces do take a toll on our behaviors too but that's another lecture that i don't want to get into.

Speech is how we speak in this case just a sound in a sense
what we're talking about is language. Language is universal but doesn't mean we understand other languages.

Yes animals may or may not be able to consent, there is not much study in this field but it might not be consenting just to you/or said person. It might be consent to other animals as well.
Animals do not know the shape of our genitalia, they do not know what the consequences are, they just know what to do and how to do.

Training is different from language, training is learning which is a process used to teach said animal/person to do a specific task based on it's consequence (whether it was good or bad)
A lot of trainers use not only classical conditioning training but also an operant conditioning approach.

Classical conditioning is a way to elicit an already known behavior by using something that would never elicit a response. Say ringing a bell to make a dog salivate.
While Operant conditioning is to shape or form a behavior based on rewards. Say make a rat touch this button or pull this lever because i gave them a cookie



  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  this is true its good to see some of the fandom can preach the truth, specially a better written version LOL.

ill add this tho what we dont know we should not assume means no like some of the above idiots like to think.

animals and humans relate in many different ways but can also differentiate in others.

going onto genitalia, there's not much consequence with our genitalia compared to a dolphins or a horses, so knowing which can hurt and which cant helps, just as well as the facts about the animal if you wish to go ahead with inter species sexual contact, know your limit and theirs before going at it. this we can determine and can be proven, where animal cruelty comes most cases are just complaints from ignorant people. but i will admit there is a right and wrong way to go about things.

  missink
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  true but lets see the average male dog's genitalia is what? around 3-4 inches right?
i'm not sure because i don't study this much but the average male is 6-7 inches
it's like if a female human tries to take 13 inches in her, it's not possible without tearing and pain

Also if you look at our hip bones/pelvic bones, they are able to seperate and be flexible because a baby's head is quite large in diameter but if you look at a female dog's giving birth, they do not push the baby out fully developed. They are wrapped in an embryonic(i dunno if that's the word) sac and develop over time. They aren't as developed as human children because of their hip bones and their way their bone is structured

A male dog's anus is not suppose ot have anything in them because they are not ones to bare children so their pelvic bones are much smaller than the females

Like I said below
a female dog's vagina can only stretch so much, if you tried to mate a corgi with a great dane/rottweiler it would like cause a lot of tearing and emotional distress.

Also it can spread diseases to the human too, infections and viruses
even with a condom, the lubrication will dry and it can rub against the walls and really irritated said person/animal.
A vaginal wall is easily able to be pierced and if air comes into the wall, then you will most likely die as a female

  holydust
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Not only all of this, but many breeds of dog have difficulty even giving birth to their OWN puppies because of the way they've been bred (Jack Russells, for example -- first time litters for many fullblood JRT moms are very risky)... Humans have bred them to look a certain way, and some other parts of their biology haven't (or never will) catch up.

  missink
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  This is very true and I forgot to put that in my statement xD
thank you =D

  acidrica
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  ...but...non-human animals -can't- give consent. :|

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  i think everyone was waiting for one of these people to pop up.
next it will be "but we're all eukaryotes!!!"

  acidrica
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oh god, why.

WE WERE DOING SO WELL TOO! D;

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  at least we can take solace in knowing they wont be reproducing. :(

  radku
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  wat. Humans and dogs are different beings. One, capable of thinking, and the other one, unable to.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  a brain is a brain if it exists it can think for itself eg choose to use motor skills or laze around. get your head in check before claiming you know better.

  radku
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  That wasn't my point. Please explain me how a non human animal can give consent about being fucked, or to have sex with a human. You cleary can't read very well.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  body language nuff said!

  radku
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  So, if you touch an animal, and it gets aroused by instint, that's consent to you?. You're, so, so wrong. Even young pups can get aroused alone, by humping people legs and stuff. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH A HUMAN. If someone sits on your lap, touches you, or anything, you will get aroused, no matter how much willpower you might have. Even animals, if they are aroused by anything...Just because if a dog gets a boner it doesn't mean that you should run and FUCK IT.

Please, seek help about this.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  now see, you immediately assume that that's body language, think body language isnt a touch.
dog wags tail: meaning he or she is happy, dog s show us many forms of emotional body language so in turn it works just as well for consent. you probably just cant accept what you don't understand bro i understand.

  lolitaofthevoid
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  So you're using the "Look at her clothes, she was just BEGGING to be raped!" excuse.

Take some biology courses. Nature has a distinct way of PROVING we can't mate with animals: Interspecies breeding doesn't genetically take. We are meant to mate with our own kind. You cannot force human reasoning on a non-human creature, because the electricity fires different, the brains are two entirely different computing machines, and the sheer fact they cannot communicate like we do is evidence enough.

You're a dumbass, you're a sicko, and you need to go away.

  radku
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  My dog wags her tail when AFRAID, SCARED or NERVOUS, dude. I can't take your response seriously. Being "happy" isn't a consent either.

Besides, i asked "How can a dog give consent?" You replied Body languague. You didn't even explained. So start by explaining yourself first.

Second, I can't accept what i can't understand?. An animal, withouth ANY way to give consent, shouldn't be fucked to begin with. I asked a valid question , which you responded with a "if wags it's tail, it's a-ok!" Really now. You're just like the guy who raped the golden.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  dude your taking my words way to seriously, it was an example of body language not as a whole. dude your seriously to stupid to even read and think on any level other than well mommy told me levels.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  also seriously stop posting, your to stupid to even understand animal human relations to even speak.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  no thats completely different dude comparing rape to bestiality is like comparing hitler with a turtle. stop being stupid.

homosexuality fits right in there with mating bro i suggest you retract your statement otherwise be seen as an ignorant fuck who cant see whats right in front of them.

  radku
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm stupid to even...? Nah, i can't take you seriously. I've grown up my entire life surrounded by my pets and animals, and cleary, you have no idea of what you're actually saying. Take a cold shower before saying that other people is stupid or fail at life because they don't agree to your twisted points of view. I am taking your post too serious? Let's see. We're talking about animals giving consent. You're giving retarded answers. So, of either you can't explain yourself (because the most logical reason is that you are one of the many sickos), or you're just as stupid as you claim people to be. Really, and this goes without any attempt to being a fight, but take a look over to what you're saying, and what is people telling you before you point someone as stupid.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  think for a second, body language proves a shrug can indicate a meh from someone, obviously meaning a sure whatever or i don't care doesn't bother me, or even many more a dogs version of a shrug can be something else.

so what your saying is that the dog or any animal cannot use body language to say yes or no and silence is obviously a no? look your more twisted than how you perceive me because you just don't see whats right in front of you.

go back to school and relearn about life animals and much more before playing with the big boys.

  thespidersfrommars
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Animals dont say meh, animals cannot shrug shoulders, animals do not shake their head side to side or up and down to say yes or no. Animals really cant give us a clear yes or no, even with body language.

The general public's understanding of animal body language is really quite narrow. Most people think with cats for example that purring means yay happy to see you, and tail twitching means they're angry. Cats actually have different ways of twitching their tails and holding them to mean different things. Cats will blink slowly as a way of showing affection. Cats will also purr when in pain to show that they are friendly and need help.
I will be honest with you, I dont know much about the body language of dogs, but what if thats the same? what if they wag their tails to show that they are in pain but they wont bite you because they need your help? I know that animals have body language but please understand that their body language is limited compared to ours, and we have a limited understanding of how their body language works. Generally we only know that tail wagging for dogs means happy, showing teeth and growing means angry. and Animals tend to show confusing signals. I have a female cat that presents herself to our male cats when in heat, but if they even so much as sniff her she turns around and smacks them and chases them away after supposedly luring them over.

I understand what you mean when you say that animals have body language, and to an extent we CAN understand them, but its kind of hard for us to. we as humans also have a tendency to send mixed signals or confuse eachother's signals. Sex has too many consequences, especially, as we can see from this journal, with animals, to leave room for mistakes in interpretation. you shouldnt have sex with a non human animal that can't directly say yes or no, or give you a clear signal.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  tbh your reading too much into an example lol

sure we don't know as much as e could but this is mainly due to idiots like above and further above assuming animals cannot think act or do attitude. such wasted minds, is why our knowledge is thin where it can be greater. but sadly evolution makes up for that with the small population with smarts we pretty much make up for all the dumdums in society.

but even though this is a sad sad crime we also must treat this as a way to learn new things.


  teahound
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  No, you're reading too LITTLE into animal psychology and proving yourself an ignorant little shit.

  ransom
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  "We?" Dude, you can't even throw together a proper sentence, much less a valid argument. What the hell makes you think you're in the smarter part of the population?

Fuck, you're stupid. It's animal-abusing, rape-apologist retards like you that give the rest of us a bad rap. Stop trying to justify fucking your god damn dog, you disgusting piece of shit.

  jackojock
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

 
we also must treat this as a way to learn new things.


I'm sorry WHAT?

What the fuck are we supposed to learn from this? Are we supposed to learn a new way of understanding animal emotions?

What is this bullshit your talking about?

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Wagging tail =/= happy.
Wagging tail is the body being stuck in fight-or-flight mode.It can't decide which to do so it ends up in a wagging tail.

Dogs who are extremely submissive and scared will sometimes wag their tail.

  lolitaofthevoid
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Nope. You're an idiot. Plain and simple. It IS rape, BECAUSE THE ANIMAL CANNOT SAY YES OR NO.

By the maker, you're a dumb one, aren't you? You're trying to say that a dog wagging its tail = a human saying "yes, I am of age and I hereby consent to this assfucking". It's not the same. Anyone can interpret the language the way they damned well choose from an animal, meaning, it's going to be rape because "the dog came onto them by begging for a potato chip i happened to be holding when I walked out of the kitchen".


Fuckign animals is rape. period. End of story. Now please, die in a fire. We don't want you mucking up our genepool.

  kwolf13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  ....................

  kwolf13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You need to study animal body language a little more before you go around acting like you're some kind of professional.

Dogs use the same body language for several different emotions.

A dog will wag its tail when it's scared, happy, nervous, or feeling intimidated...
A dog barks when it's scared, excited, concerned...
A dog will pant out of stress, heat, fatigue....
A dog yawns when it's tired, stressed, or bored...

See? Not a lot of different signs, but there are several emotions they all can express. You sir, are the idiot.


  vickychaitea
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  And your grammar is so bad you shouldn't be typing.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Dogs will also wag their tail when doing their stifflegged walkarounds at a dog park. Although it's stiff tailwagging, it still counts.

  bizaara
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  leave turtles out of this >:C

  korrok
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Most people can't understand human body language. Hardly anyone understands dog body language. Why do you think almost everyone goes "waggy tail = happy" rather than seeing that a wagging tail can mean various things dependant on the circumstance, from uncertainty, to alertness, to dominance and aggression?

People will interpret body language, in humans or animals, in a biased way too. The way they see fit. "She was totally asking for it".

People TRAIN their dogs to accept this sexual behaviour, that is the bottom line. They desire it, the dog does not. It is purely exploitative, and purely rape.

  korrok
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Body language can even vary depending on the individual animal/dog. That's also a fact. There is absolutely, definitely, no way to obtain consent from an animal.

  disturbiawolf
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I can't even believe you just said that... you trying to say its alright for people to be fucking dogs?

  scottbear
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  A man is raped by a woman but gets a boner because that's a natural physical response to penis stimulation. Guess his body language gave consent for him and he actually wanted it? Because that's pretty much your argument. There's a huge difference between natural physical responses and consent.

  thespidersfrommars
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  yeah, I dont really get this guys argument at all.. I'm sure everyone here realizes animals do have the intelligence to have body language but like you say, its very varied, our knowledge is limited, and even then, for smaller animals like dogs its dangerous consent or no consent. A lot of people are saying BUT THE KNOT IS BIGGER THAN MOST HUMAN PENISES. They generally don't thrust the knot in and out, they sit there until the swelling goes down and im pretty sure they are pained if you try to pull them apart. plus a dog's penis is differently shaped from a human's.. I really just don't see this as ever being safe for the animal(unless i guess its a horse, since they are gaping caverns but still no, leave horses alone) even if the animal can give consent in a clear way. And its an issue of understanding the situation. It's like someone saying its perfectly okay to have sex with a 4 year old child because they have the ability to say yes or no. and for people saying BUT DOLPHINS CAN GIVE CONSENT don't zoophiles sometimes have attractions to specific animals? and even if they were attracted to dolphins, do you really think they have regular access to them?

  kwolf13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yea, it's to put on a show of "Hey, don't mess with me" for the other dogs. My beagle does that when I walk him.

  kayote
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Why do you keep talking.

Like, you just keep talking.

You are afraid to be wrong, so you like to call out people, call them retards, stupid and so on, but the rest of the world look at you, and shakes their head because it's YOU that looks ignorant.

I am sorry, Pale-Tailed-Fox, but you really need to get out more, and I really mean that with all of my heart. For you to purposely seek out journals to spew your illiterate speech onto and try to look like the one on top really makes you the one at the bottom of the rung.

Please, once again, do yourself a favor and step away from the computer for a while, and do some research. Actually look deep into psychology, read up on it. Biology classes, watching vets work, groomers groom. Court sessions. Psychology sessions.

You need to take a step back, and re-read all of your posts from a new standpoint, and how awful they sound to the ear, but also on yourself.

You will respond to this calling me a name, sputtering illiterate words, telling me to get out more, or something along those lines. Whatever you need to do to feel better about yourself, or make you feel like you are on the top-rung of this conversation, but seriously take into consideration what everyone's opinion is. Whether you respect it or not is your choice, but no one firstly calls you a retard and so on. They try to talk to you with logic, yet you fail to listen, so you stoop down and start calling names.

Have a good day.

  icen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Lol. All scientists and anthropologists, all vets and people that work with animals, all people that study both the behavior of human and non-humans are TOTES wrong.

You need to go and take their job the-pale-tailed-fox. You are obviously correct. You obviously know more than these people who have studied this topic about how the brain works and all of its inner-workings for hundreds of years. Go tell them how to do their jobs! They obviously have no idea from either the actions a human takes or the actual size of certain parts in the brains, in comparison to other animals, how they actually function!

You should get a PhD! You have never studied animals or humans in any sense of the word, but screw all those professionals and their intense training. YOU SIR, are a genius!

  edwardhyena
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  A non-sentient animal cannot say "yes". When it comes to sex, if "yes" is not said, the default is "no".

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  parrots do no count either!

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  no your so stupid that you would compare silence to no because of a difference in speech. dude yu need help with being able to interact.

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  this is funnier then it should be because of your lack of punctuation and coherent sentences.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  umm my keyboard messes up more often than not. so your lack of being able to think makes me laugh so hard at how much you fail at life.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Blame it on the k-k-k-k-k-keyboard

  lildragonguy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Because when asking someone if they want to fuck, no response means yes and it's okay to fuck them. Why don't you try that for yourself and see how well that flies in court?

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  even assuming yes is bad and stupid what im trying to explain here is dont assume you know what the animal is saying but attempt to really understand them study them first know what action or sound means what after all out words are ony sounds to any other creature. refer to large post below.

  lildragonguy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I think it's pretty safe to assume you shouldn't be fucking animals in the first place.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  im pretty sure you shouldn't be doing whatever it is your doing but that doesn't stop you does it. fact is theres nothing you can use that will prove sex with an animal outside your species is wrong or dangerous for one or the other cept specific species and mostly that animal on human. eg horse on human horse perforates colon. simple yet conclusive dolphin on human dangerous same effect as horse on human there's anatomical differences in sizes to show how wrong it is but with a dog its not so wrong as man on man bro. please learn things before you spout complete drivil.

  edwardhyena
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oh, I have seen the light. "The dog was wagging her tail at me. She was asking for it." is so much different than "Look what she was wearing. She was asking for it." Thank you for showing me the error of my ways.

  lildragonguy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You obviously don't know what a zoonosis is. It's a disease that can be transferred from animal to human through, amongst other methods, sexual contact. Several of them are really fucking nasty and potentially lethal. You can find a few of them listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoophilia_and_health

So, yeah. Sex with animals is dangerous.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Not only can someone get involved with that nasty disease shit, but he/she can also give their animal infections that require surgery to cure [such as pyometra]

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Animals and humans can be trained to engage/allow someone to sexually abused them.

In animals, it's called training, in humans, it's called sexual grooming.

  filthy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  It's not your place to decide FOR an animal as to whether or not they consent to sexual activity. :/ They don't understand what consent even is. You don't just default to "one bark meant yes!".

And yes, it DOES hurt them. Any sexual activity without consent is harmful; it does not matter whether the one being forced is human OR animal-- the logic is the same.

Since you believe "as a race we are all animals", then apply your faulty logic to ALL animals. If you wouldn't molest/rape another person, don't molest/rape your pet.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  its not your place to point fingers and claim what someone is doing as wrong either but we still see it so think doing the smart thing means if your gonna do it at least know things first and do it safely.

if it hurts them how does it are you able to slip into their brain feel what they feel or are you assuming that by doing so the action is causing mental harm. you know assuming you know something you obviously don't is a sure way to get yourself hurt.

  filthy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  First of all, learn some proper grammar and the concepts of basic logic before attempting to debate on a public forum.

All I had to do was turn your own logic around and use it to prove your points invalid. You implied that all of us being animals justifies the concept of human-with-animal-sex. However, the act of a human forcing sexual activity onto a creature that cannot consent would be exactly the same as a human forcing sexual activity onto another human who either cannot or does not consent.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  you never proved me wrong you just used major amounts of ignorance and self conceit to believe you know better than i.

  filthy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Okay then, explain to me how you are so certain that an animal can consent to sexual activity with a human being. Since you know how animals truly feel better than I do (as you claim), then really, I mean it, go ahead. I am very interested in hearing you explain your completely flawless logic.

  bizaara
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Dude, you're fucking sick.

  freehaven
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You're a fucking idiot.

  rossyfox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  YOU are pretty much invalid

  raphial
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  A link back as you wish.

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2439434

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  you should put my name on there besides the ole i forgot from who thing.

  raphial
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Well when I found the journal, I thought it copied the name after I closed out, but it didn't.

And sorry if I forgot it.

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  YOUR LINK SUCKS GTFO

  edwardhyena
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Some people just should not be around, let alone have, pets.

  bikuu
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I wouldn't trust some of these people with a gold fish. |:

  motoro
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  That is pretty fucked up yo..

  triggerfox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Careful, you might anger the dog fuckers. They have large numbers and ATTACK IN PACKS.

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  OH GOD! , ill arm myself with dog whistles now

  triggerfox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  That's a really sad story though.. sorry you had to witness that.

Doesn't sound like a very intelligent guy- Bringing his dog in like that and making sexual hints.

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  LOL U MAD ?

  triggerfox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  lol you banned?

  yourmainparadox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Sounds like its not true... A dog with a broken or out of place pelvis and a broken jaw would not be walking in the store to begin with because it wouldn't be able to walk. Also people don't generally brag about sex with animals outside of the net or furry groups... also people don't bring in animals in that condition to get groomed because they show a lack of caring for the dogs well being to begin with..... why get him groomed when you don't care for other needs he broke bones puss etc etc etc. Sorry I worked as a groomer and then a vet tech for the city (which deals with abused animals) and it sounds off WAY off. People that abuse their dogs do not bring them in to be groomed. I have seen dogs come in from sexual abuse and from abuse abuse and from neglect but the facts here are well not right.

  triggerfox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yeah.. lol it is a pretty radical story. I really lost all hope for man kind so when i hear something like this I usually believe it because i have witnessed people this stupid.

I agree with you though.

  naynay
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Not always true. While I agree with dog fuckers not talking about it outside of places where they feel safe. People do bring abused dogs in to get groomed. Seen three cases of testicle tying ((putting a rubber band around them form of home neutering.)) One case of a rubber band placed around the muzzle guy even smirked at us and told us he thought the dog not to bark. We didnt see the embedded rubber band untill we started shaving the dog which btw was a walking mat. One case of a dog withh bb bullets in old wounds we found after shaving it down. countless living in their own flith cases but the worst part about all this is our company and management wont let us doing anything for most cases. The bad ones yes but under fed and living in own filth walking matted dogs we cant do anything

  radku
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Actually, some are showing up already. I don't know if i should cry at the whole "bestiality is a-ok cuz humans are animals too murr"

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  no you should only preach that its ok cuz anatomically were not hurting anything. so claiming you know what the animal feels must mean you have super powers

  kiboe
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  ........dude, please take biology, then go learn about canine biology.

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  wat. anatomically we ARE hurting them.

  triggerfox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  shhhh

  teahound
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oh they're already here, unfortunately. =C Christ, people will defend anything.

  wolfattwilight
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  thats horrible! omfg this made me cry! i hope the doggie will be ok. ;_;
that ....Person....deserves to get the same thing happened to him, from some huge guy whos name is bubba!

people like that make me so sick

  megamanstitch87
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  This guy... Needs to be executed. No questions asked. Anyone disagrees on my comment here, Are foolish supporters.

  bluekewne
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I wouldn't say "execution".

Don't think I defend bestiality (I'm 100% against it), but I'm against cruel punishment.

Some jailtime would be appropriate, along with a hefty fee/fine that goes straight to ASPCA.

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I think people arent reading the whole thing here.

this dog wasnt just sexually abused, it was physically abused and BEATEN.

animal fucking is wrong no matter what. we do not understand what animals say nor do we know animal body language as i said above, even in human rape cases a verbal no is all that counts. just dont have sex until the person says yes. and if the person says no or stop then fucking STOP. since an animal cannot SAY yes DONT FUCK IT

  kiboe
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  abused, part of the body was mutilated (sheath cut away)
how the jaw was dis-located i can only assume the dog was..well forced. and the guy probably threw a blunt object hard enough to snap it wif the dog fought back.

i've seen this shit around, some zoos go so far as to more or less disable their defences so the dogs can become a helpless fucktoy.


  kiboe
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  if* not wif

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  poor thing x.x oh god yeah thats just terrible... it seriously makes me cry to think of that. ive had two dogs and i currently have a cat who is the sweetest cat ever. thank god i got to them first and the dog i gave away is in a great home.

  charn
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I don't understand the disconnect between : abuse a dog to the point of needing to be put down, and then... taking it to be groomed? did he think you would just push some sort of 'reset button' or something?


  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  im thinking maybe he was just done. his dog ran out of batteries and maybe he wasnt planning on coming back for him.

  acorn
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  That actually sounds hearbreakingly accurate :/ I wouldn't be surprised if that was his plan.

  anklebones
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  i didnt even think of that until now. that would make sense.

  dreamprophecy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  oh god that does make sense now that you mention it...

  varmkeest
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I want to believe this is just a troll, but deep down I have the horrible feeling it isn't.



  argarondrakescale
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  To bad there are alot of fursonas like that, but man, i say that guy needs to be kicked in the head and HARD.

  cycanine
 

(I keep hoping this is a troll post > >) Posted: 3 years ago

  But...as someone else said I have a feeling this isn't.

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  STFU ALREADY

  alty
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Sorry you had to see absolutely sick shit like that...

I hope the sick freak gets punished to the fullest extent of the law.

  siroc
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Draaaamaaaa!!! I spread the word though. That shit is crazy sick.

  sonious
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I prey there actually is a hell sometimes. Even if I end up there, at least I'll get to see people like that suffer.

  jackojock
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  My respect for the human race just lo....oh shit I forgot I lost all respect years ago.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  thought id add something.


people here act just like the homophobes act towards gays, they just like to throw everyone who enjoys sex with animals in there cause they dislike it its like the issues with homosexuality

litteraly not everyone harms animals so you cannot throw bestiality is a issues in here if its not true.

  cycanine
 

(Generalizations are fun though!) Posted: 3 years ago

  And once people have made up their mind you cant change it. Or at least its hard too.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  tbh that can be true in cases of personal conceit where people believe they are so important they lose touch with reality. i accept i don't know everything about any one subject but my collective knowledge can still be applied towards logic into pointing out guesswork that likely isnt to far from the truth but still speculation.

  filthy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Stop trying to justify fucking your dog. It's rape; your faulty logic is not going to prove that simple fact wrong in any way, shape, or form.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  so if you fuck someone and they cry rape your gonna just let it happen, good going retard you let thins that arent even wrong become crimes just by hating on a perfectly non harmful choice. literaly you gotta stop thinking you know what animals think because it makes you look like your secretly a zoophile.

  filthy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oh, I'm sorry, I guess your idea of "what animals think" is completely valid in comparison to mine because yours enables you to project your unrestrained sexual desires onto another creature without concern for their ability to consent. MY BAD, BRO.

No amount of name-calling will make you right, by the way. I'd just give up on that idea right now if I were you. :D

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  you assume silence or not the same vocal consent means rape dude your the idiot here i don't assume im right how you act proves that i am.

  filthy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I am talking based on simple facts and general human understanding of boundaries, fairness, and respect towards all other creatures.

  kwolf13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Fucking your dog is wrong.

Your grammar skills fail.

Go kill yourself.

  teahound
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  "literaly you gotta stop thinking you know what animals think because it makes you look like your secretly a zoophile."

Thinking you understand how dogs think doesn't make you look like a zoophile. Defending bestiality makes you look like a zoophile.

  bearrier
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  we don't know what animals think. we probably never will. but isn't it better and safer for the ANIMAL to err on the side of caution and not do things that could potentially put the animal at risk?

you seem to just want to get your rocks off and don't care about the potential well-being of your animal. it's not all about your sexual gratification. it's about not putting your dog in harm's way.

  bearrier
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  we don't know what animals think. we probably never will. but isn't it better and safer for the ANIMAL to err on the side of caution and not do things that could potentially put the animal at risk?

you seem to just want to get your rocks off and don't care about the potential well-being of your animal. it's not all about your sexual gratification. it's about not putting your dog in harm's way.

  cycanine
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Its also not nice to make light of rape so fuck off,

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  oh he just assumes rape is there cause it doesn't speak our language, don't fight with it pity it instead that its lack of being smart just shows evolution gave up on it.

  sirius
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Bestiality is rape. I don't see where Filthy was making light of it? It's a serious issue regardless of if it is happening to people or animals, and those who partake in it deserve to be castrated, at the very least.

  nittrusshark
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  This coming from a Natzy sympathizer.. just rich..

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  All nazis fuck dogs. It's a fact, I actually have a PhD in studying nazi dogfuckery.

  sirius
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  SIRIUS, WEREWOLF FUCKER OF THE SS

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  didnt Nazis used to torture people by making them fuck dogs?

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I read that somewhere, but I don't exactly know if it's true
It just goes to show that fucking dogs = a form of degradation and that people who fuck dogs willingly are pretty damn low.

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Id been taught that by a teacher. she wasnt a good teacher, but whatever XD

PRETTY MUCH

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  rape is where its not consensual eg non instinctual in any case your a moron you cannot be president cause you would ruin your country now gtfo.

  sirius
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You've come into a thread in which someone is discussing animal abuse, have defended the abuse of animals, and you're telling me to gtfo? I really, really think you should stop posting and take a good hard look at yourself and seek professional help.

  teahound
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You're fucking stupid.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  ive defended the people everyne just randomly throws in and assumes is te same way you retard. go back to your idiot country and suck a dick.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  im sorry but could you please reverse that comment onto yourself and kindly go fuck yourself, thank you.

  filthy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You can have the INSTINCT to want to have sex with someone yet not CONSENT to actually acting out said sex.

  teahound
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I love how you think these comments make you sound witty when all of FA is laughing at you.

  filthy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  LOL I thought you were responding to me for a sec, I was about to be like SAM WHAT DID I DOOOO ;A; but I see it's just FA's layout breaking all over, as always. 8D

  jackojock
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oh wow epic comeback, did you ask a 5 year old for help with that one?

  teahound
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yeah no, I was replying to the fuckhead up there. xD No worries.

  teahound
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Butbutbut I'M RUBBER YOU'RE GLUE and all that. Poor kid really needs to lrn2type.

  jackojock
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Just scrolling up and down makes it hard to see whos talking....I mean typeing to who.

  holydust
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yeah, it's actually impossible for an outsider to see who is talking to who in this whole section of the page. Thanks, FA... wtf.

  saberkenji
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Nope, bitch

  kiboe
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  ....how old are you?

  sin.
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  So you're litterally saying,

because dog CAN'T say no ... that beastiality is okay ?

Well guess what.

They can't say yes either.

Dogs were made to fuck dogs with dog anatomy.

Shoving a human penis 10 out of 10 times into a dogs rectum is going to make the dog scream in pain.

... I don't speak "dog" But I'm pretty sure that means "ouch, that hurts, please stop doing that"


so yes. It is rape.

And very wrong.

  filthy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Good thing I wasn't making light of it at all, then.

  joshstory
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Unless the dog looks at you and says:

"Excuse me sir, but could you kindly insert your genitals into me in a sexual manner, to both our satisfactions." Then it is rape, because it did not consent.

  teahound
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  She wasn't making light of it - you are by insisting fucking your dog is not rape.

  cycanine
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  How am I insisting? :P I made one comment no wait 2 :P To insist wouldn't I have to keep saying it over and over?

  teahound
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Nope. Try again.

  cycanine
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm good thank ;)

  teahound
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Not good at typing, clearly. I assume you meant, 'I'm good, thanks!'

  cycanine
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Nope. Try again.


How is nope a sentence?

  teahound
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  The same way that you're an idiot.

  cycanine
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Can you try a little harder if you are going to attempt to insult me? What are you twelve?

  teahound
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Obviously not, since I have proper grammar.

  cycanine
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Good job!

  teahound
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Wish I could say the same, dumbass.

  cycanine
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yeah, you might want to work on a better rebuttal.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  P.S saying that bestiality is rape is not making light of rape :)
By saying it is, you're slightly implying that you think that in some way, an animal can consent to sex and therefore, your argument, opinion and feelings towards this issue shouldn't be taken into consideration.

  teahound
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I wouldn't waste my good rebuttals on someone like you.

  cycanine
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You are doing so well though!

  missink
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Actually
in a sense i guess your right by the way we are behaving

but it's because we view animals/pets as our children
it is known that an adult dog has the same brain connection as a 6 year old
it's kinda like having sex with a child or for that matter other people's children

There is abuse and their is sexual abuse
sexual abuse will always hurt an animal, male genitalias are not meant for female dogs or even male dogs
their hip bones are much to small to be able to hold that much.
There's a reason why dogs have different sizes of genitalia too..
chihuahas can't mate with great danes and vice versa because of their genitalia
it's like forcing a hot dog into a pin sized hole
it's not possible!

also it isn't right to compare gays with bestiality because they're two different subjects
homosexuals are of loving the same gender
bestiality is interspecies


  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  you are right about the comparing but it is justified by how comparing what someone is attracted too.

i don't think well ever be enemys lol i agree with what your saying LOL but ill also have to disagree with some points lol

  missink
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I don't try to make enemies, I try to give my reasoning on issues.
It's ok to disagree, i don't see me ever changing someone's viewpoints because that's just how it is. You can't control human nature or human behavior, you can just help it and try to reason with it.

I'm not here to make friends nor enemies, nor troll
i just want people to know the facts and to know the different mindset than what they are fixed onto.

Like psychology says, people will be biased based on egotistical blindness or what they/their mind wants to perceive. To think out of the box is to think outside your own fixedness

  krostfox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I have to agree wholeheartedly with MissInk here.
The problem with these arguments is that everyone has their own opinion, and most people tend to think that theirs is the only one that's right :/

On a related note, I would have to imagine there's a number of people who identify as a zoophile and who haven;t ever hurt their dogs.
That said, from a completely objective view, it seems to me as a lot of the explosion of comments has come from people judging an entire population/demographic/etc by the worst it has to offer :/

  missink
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Or they're trying to get a kick out of all the insults or drama, which is what the internet does.
The satisfaction of making your opponent back down or become mute is satisfying none the lease for some people.

My problem is not the idea of loving your dog or whatever, that's your choice
but the act of it is not what is right or wrong but the consequence of the act
The fact of the matter is that this story has proven that there are issues when you do sexual acts on an animal. I mean i've heard other stories with other animals before where they were sexually abuse even by the people who say they loved them.
The fact of the matter is that you will tear or hurt the animal biologically and emotionally
but they will do as you please because they love you in turn

I wish that people who were thinking of doing this act would think twice and love from afar.
You can love your animal but please, don't do insert your penis into it nor let them insert you

biologically we aren't capable to mate with animals.

  missink
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  *less not lease

  sirius
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  There's a difference between opinion and fact. You can argue till you're blue in the face that the earth is flat, but it doesn't make it so, and everyone's gonna laugh at you. By the same token, you can argue that sexual contact with animals isn't rape, but from a scientific viewpoint it is, so everyone's gonna laugh at you. As they should, at the very least.

Also, it's been my experience that the vast majority of zoophiles are animal rapists, although YMMV- if people love animals, that's one thing, but I can't recall ever seeing a self-described zoo come out and say they're against sexual contact with animals (rape).

  krostfox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yaaa, I have to admit, I normally stay out of stuff, but this one is just becoming a bit too much of mudslinging fit.
So many drama whores :/


I have to admit, I'm not entirely sure what a canine's genitals are capable of, but the only thing that occurs to me is how big the not of a male dog would be of a species like a labrador or some medium to large breed dog in the female of species.
I mean, knot included, it has to be bigger than the penis of the average man right?

That said though, I do feel horrible about how people hurt the animals who love and trust them so much.
I mean, our pets trust us sooooo much, but there are so many who still abuse that loyalty.

The thing is, I can;t figure out for the life of me why he would cut the poor dog's sheath?
I mean, I simply don't understand that.
Mind you, I suppose all of the other poor dogs broken bones, hurt muzzle, and hurt nose you can probly just attest to the owner beating the dog to get it to be still while he used the poor thing for sex without a second thought to why it was trying to get away.....
That poor poor dog >_>

  missink
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm not sure exactly, to be honest
that is something that i'm not expertise in
What i know is the knot is the size of a golf ball and it's just there for locking purposes.
I hear that when dogs do mate, sometimes they don't always knot. But if they do knot it's more likely because they are the same size or the vulva is a bit more bigger than the other.

Either way i have also heard that the knot can break or tear a vaginal wall
but that's just from hearing and not actual research, it's best to research things yourself with an open mind of course

and yes that poor dog, i feel terrible for it D:
My dog is a shelter dog and i'm glad i can give her a life of luxury and happiness
i just wish that i could do the same for other dogs too

  krostfox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  mmmmmmm, that would make sense.
I suppose I always thought that because dogs are biologically able to procreate, to a point, a male and female of the same breed would not hurt eachother at all.
Never knew that the female would sometimes tear the vaginal wall :/

I dunno, I suppose I just still can;t get over the fact that he hurt his dog so badly, and how much force he would had to exert to fracture/dislocate it's bones.
I mean, to me, the deliberate beating of the dog or whatever happened almost seems more appalling to me than the sex.
It's just so.... I dunno, senseless maybe?


  krostfox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Sirius, No offence meant by this, but, umm, who exactly are these vast majorities of zoophiles you know who are animal rapists?
Also, where did you get this from anyways? :/

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  People seem to think that size = whether or not it hurts the dog, and that "knots are thicker than an average man's penis!"
What they don't take into consideration is the ph levels of semen, germs and diseases they may have on themselves, allergies to lube/latex/etc or even the fact that female dogs when mating, do not sit there and say "oh okay I'm pregs". It's painful for them, they try to get away but scream.
Other then that, I don't know too much about dog knotology. My sister called me in a panic once saying "MY FRIENDS DOGS ARE STUCK TOGETHER!! WHAT DO I DO?!?!" and I had to tell her it was normal

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Some people get off on torturing animals - sexually or not. It's called zoosadism.

I will never understand it.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  so very true but that said its likely you would love speaking with me irl on stuff like this eg friendly debates so as to hone each others knowledge lol everyone i try to do it with gets way to fed up and bails before they even have a chance to even have a debate lol.

  missink
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I dunno, it takes a lot out of me physically, emotionally and mentally to be honest when i debate
and even if we do debate, i'm sure words will just be words to you.

I can see you enjoy a lot of anger and frustration that people illicit.
In that sense, i probably wont have too much fun because you'd probably the opponent to pick at my words and try to reverse them to get me angered.

I probably will never change your mind nor change the minds of other people who do this and that's fine but what frustrates me is when people don't take your words and warnings into consideration.

Either way, i'm not sure who you are in real life or how you act.
I'm certainly sure you don't act this way around friends or people.

I'm one of the few who will act exactly the way i act online and off. =D



  sirius
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Maybe because you type like a syslexic dix year old and have the debating skills of one as well? You're making an idiot of yourself, I really suggest you a) stop posting and b) seek professional help.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  oh no i don't like anger i just am one who shows people where they need to move along find another topis to debate if they are gonna act childish in replying lol i just get very dominant with idiots lol.

  missink
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Sadly, your methods aren't as useful to create a very deliberate debate.
It's not only just hearing their side but also using their side against them instead of insulting them personally.
You have to be not only a good listener but also be able to move people or influence them by the way you talk.

Insulting them and saying they're childish or they're wrong or stupid, is just another way to frustrate the other and also becomes a standstill.
If you want to debate well, put yourself out there with all the facts you got and do not persecute the person behind the debate
focus on the subject than who the person is

that is sadly what people don't realize and the debate turns into an argument and then hatred.

Also why debate if you know that you yourself wont be persuaded or accept the ideals of another?



  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  meh they like to act like children and let others words get to them so all i do is give them a reason to smarten up and get their facts right.

sure its pretty trollish but meh they seem like some fun sheeple so i treat an opportunity like it is. though i wouldnt act that way with those who know how to properly debate without things like oh you speak funny or you type weird tactics lol

  madra
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  ugh. dude.

YOU'RE = YOU ARE
YOUR = POSSESSIVE PRONOUN

for the love of fuck.

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  HEY GO FUCK YOUR MOM

  madra
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  k

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  DO IT NOW I HAS A SHOT GUN IN MY HAND AND WILL SHOOT YOU WITH IT YOU FURFAG

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  wow so angst yet so on the furry site and acting all furfaggy. dude you suck more balls than i get to in my whole life.

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  FUCK OFF AND SUCK YOUR MOMS TITS FOR MILK

YIFF IN HELL FURFAG

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  why thanks, i will. and itll be hawt.

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA WOW FURFAG

YOU WOULD EVEN ENJOY BEING RAPED BY A MAN IN THE DARK PLACES

FUCKING DIRTY FAGGOT

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  hey do you speak from exp?

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  making a big deal out of a single typo, dude you're such a sad human being.

  madra
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  it wasn't a single typo. you made that mistake in every single one of your posts. xD

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  YOU DO LOADS OF TYPOS BECAUSE YOU ARE RETARDED

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  regardless, this isnt a typing competition so move along nothing to see here ;-P

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

 
Do not compare being hated for fucking puppies to homosexuals and their struggle to be accepted.


  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  its compared because of the many similaritys attraction. and many more. go keep your sour attitude and hatred to yourself you sourpuss.

  gyu
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You are literally too dumb for words. I am loling so hard at your pitiful attempts to justify fucking an animal.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  yet you try to justify claiming stuff just like the other idiots using the humans langage is far more superior were the beings who know better oh but its wrong. btw heres a solution prove it fucker.

  gyu
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I don't even know what you're trying to say because you just sound like a complete idiot.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  No it's not.

Okay I'm gonna try to explain this to you as if I were explaining it to a toddler.

Male + Male relationship = homosexual relationship.
Adult Male + Adult Male = consenting, homosexual intercourse

Adult Male + Dog = nonconsenting, sexual intercourse with a being who doesn't understand it's tail from another dogs, let alone something as complicated as sex.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  you assume they cannot express a yes through actions such a sad wittle human you are to think of humans like they are such better and way more superior and can think better and so on, tbh do i really need to continue to list what your acting like as itll go on for at least 2-3 more lines lol

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Okay so by your logic, actions = expressing consent.
If you're at a public pool and a little baby stumbles in and grabs your junk, does that mean he or she is consenting? Would it be okay to plow the baby?

& to argue that dogs are nearly as intelligent as humans is simply fucking retarded.

  nightfallgeminiimporter
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  hey, at least Clayton doesn't use "wittle" or try to use 'human' as an insult.

also punctuation god fuck

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  WOW DUDE STOP USING RED TEXTS AND GTFO

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

 
I used it once




  sirius
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Thankyou. <3

  kwolf13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Thank you

  selunca
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Humans are not SUPPOSE to mate with other creatures. Aside from the moral wrongness of the fact that people do, you are physically hurting the animal you are fucking. Did you not read what this poor dog above went through? Ever heard of Anal prolapse? I don't care how much astro glide you stick on your dick, you putting it into a dogs anus/vagina is still going to hurt the animal.

Your fucking ignorant if you think that the difference between homosexuals and bestiality is closely related, its not. Homosexuals are having anal sex with someone of their own species, with CONSENT from another person. You are raping an unintelligent animal who can't A) Escape you B) Give Consent C) Handle human anatomy in a safe manner. You probably some idiot that thinks the dog whining means its enjoying it or something.

You are disgusting.

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  but moral is personal not really wrong get the difference and leave it at that. btw people would have siad the same about blacks and whites and gays and straights but oh wait they did how far did it get them not very far.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I don't hate bestiality and zoophiles because "ew that's icky", I hate it because it's abuse and all about power/control over something that can't give consent or understand what is going on fully.
Imagine an adult having sex with an adult, mentally disabled person. Sure, the handicapped person may be able to get aroused, but he does not understand sex and the complications of something like it. To have sex with a mentally disabled person would be abuse as well, and people do get arrested for it.

  selunca
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  No, the moral between hurting another creature and not hurting it is not different for each person.
and your second sentence makes no sense because you obviously cannot form a coherent sentence and there for shouldn't be breeding with anything.

  veetanitu
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Do you have sex with animals? Straight up question.
Do you practice in which you are attempting so hard to defend?

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  do i? no will i thats really none of your business tbh.

  jackojock
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Well that almost always means yes, so yes you do fuck animals?

  kwolf13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You pretty much just gave yourself away, because if you didn't fuck your animals you would have just said "no"

  imeatinglemonade
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  He's a well known & confirmed zoophile.
On top of that he also already admitted somewhere that he DID put bestiality into practice.
Btw I just noticed he's been suspended from FA.

  kwolf13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yah, I have a feeling his suspension has something to do with him pretty much admitting he's a zoophile. I mean...a good read through his comments on here makes it kinda obvious. No, he doesn't open say "HURR DURR I FUCKED MY DOG" but, well he might as well have.

I never really paid attention to this guy much, so this is the first time I've been clued in that he's a zoophile. I saw his name pop up a lot when WYS was still around, and as far as I knew, he was just a gender confused failure at grammar who wasn't very bright. Guess there was more to it, huh?

  ransom
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You got a link to where this guy's admitted to bestiality?

  rtdragon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  It's actually somewhere in the comments but from what i know he just got out of a suspension before for badmouthing the mods on the fa forums on a journal he made after he got permabanned from the forums a week ago.

  rtdragon
 

(Links to PTF admiting it.) Posted: 3 years ago

  Anyway here are the comments. Though there's a lot of stupid in them as well.

Important Parts
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/...../#cid:19592988
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/...../#cid:19593827
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/...../#cid:19593856
http://www.furaffin ity.net/journal/2439186/#cid:19597163
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/...../#cid:19595484
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/...../#cid:19595292
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2439186/#c id:19596093
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/...../#cid:19597003
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/...../#cid:19596719
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/...../#cid:19597479
http://www.fu raffinity.net/journal/2439186/#cid:19597395 Admits it.


Others
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/...../#cid:19593774
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/...../#cid:19593958
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/...../#cid:19593692
http://ww w.furaffinity.net/journal/2439186/#cid:19594821
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/...../#cid:19597195

And this is nothing compared to what happened a week ago.

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2412587/
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2413052/
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2415016/

  ransom
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I've read all his nonsense on this journal. He's obviously a zoophile—he's been hinting at it the whole time, defending bestiality. This is the closest I can find to an admission here. I was hoping to locate something more definite, but that's not bad. This is alright too, but not as overt as what I wanted to find. Oh, and here he hints to enjoying getting plowed by a dog. Seems like so long as the dog's on top, he doesn't consider it abuse.

I was hoping to locate an outright admission, but these aren't bad. We've got his photo, his age, and his hometown. Combined, hopefully that will be enough to get whatever pets he has taken to safety. Thanks for your help.

  rtdragon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Your welcome though what i find surprise is that he finally did all of this to himself though i had not idea he would enjoy something like that.

Though he seems to not take this seriously according to this post on inkbunny which i've screencapped.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-image.....bunnythef.png/

  imeatinglemonade
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  The information provided in this journal was quite shocking.
Yet you try to justify that fucking animals is A-OK.
on top of that you're calling the people who are against bestiality wittle humans...
claiming how their minds can't grasp the fact that when a dog wags its tail it actually means it wants a penis up its asshole.
In fact you're the one having a very small brain... you're the one with a problem.
you're a lust-driven egoist... a tiny piece of human waste that only thinks with its dick.

Bestiality is Bad and You Should Feel Bad!

please dismiss yourself from the gene pool!

  extorpid
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  ... A+

This dude... wth. He was seriously freaking me out. Although I think he should be permanently banned though :U

  imeatinglemonade
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  People like him should certainly be banned without any hesitation whatsoever.
They have absolutely nothing to do with this fandom and they only use this place as a safehaven to harbour their depraved minds.
Behaviour like his should be treated as an Illness and should be removed instantly before it even has a chance to spread.
Due to the extremely high tolerance level of this fandom...it actually does have a chance to spread.... sadly...
Being very tolerant is really great and all... but guys like him prove once again that you can't be TOO tolerant.
Every furry should keep in mind that this guy is one of many... and that guys like him will also speak in the name of your fandom.
A long time ago it used to be very clear that this fandom was just about anthropomorphic characters.
Though lately the dog fuckers suddenly feel the need to stand up and scream YO i'm a furry ^_^ as well

1 Anthropomorphism is a term coined in the mid 1700s to refer to any attribution of human characteristics (or characteristics assumed to belong only to humans) to non-human animals.. etc etc.

2 Bestiality, the term for sexual acts between humans and animals

It should be extremely clear that number 2 has no connection with this fandom whatsoever and thus doesn't belong here.

I still blame the waaaaaaaaaay too high tolerance level which they maintain within this fandom.
and that's why the wall between two totally different things became very very vague...

I'm honestly surprised that this guy got suspended....
especially cuz there are still too much openly admitting animal fuckers on FA.
I could name a few of em right away... just from the top of my head..
These kind of people shouldn't have a place within FA and they shouldn't have a place anywhere at all.

Sorry for the tl;dr rant but this journal + the comments from this guy made my blood boil.

Peace.

  extorpid
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I actually like how you worded that. Its okay! Hopefully people will be reading your post!

Those are my thoughts, I just couldn't think of a way to word it. FA really needs to work on cleaning the scum out of FA.

My friend also said something I really adore

"although the consenting thing is questionable, i just dont understand why people can't simply accept the unconditional love their animal brings them rather than take it as some invitation to have fucking sex with them."

They can back up their disgusting filthy ways with all their might, but it all boils down to them being sick sick fucks.

  imeatinglemonade
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Those were some very wise words from your friend indeed.
You know, the fandom could easily become a great place once again... If only the majority didn't turn a blind eye to stuff like this.
I also know why people tend to stay silent about this kind of stuff.. it's because people are too quickly labeled as a troll or a biggot.
In a lot of cases I even noticed that the people who don't stay silent will be more vulnerable to a ban than a dog fucker who knows how to maintain a low profile.
Why is it so difficult to let this fandom be what it's supposed to be ? It really boggles the mind.
No seriously... I really don't get it!
Rightnow a lot of non furries think that all furries are sick dog fuckers.
And can we even blame them ?
No we can't...
simply cuz the sick fucks have all the freedom they need.... to shove their love for IRL dog cock right down everyones throat.
In the name of your fandom.

There are a lot of furries who complain about trolls.
but let me say this.
the furries should: Look at their fandom... notice what's wrong with it.... use a huge ass broom and clean the fandom.
result = drastic decrease of trolls.
I'm 100% possitive of this.

So yeah, I really do hope that they will keep this guy B&
It's only 1 scumbag less and probably many more to go... but it's still better than nothing.
I also don't see any reason why they shouldn't keep that guy B&
It's animal cruelty... and personally I think a simple ban is still too less of a punishment... If you can even call it that.

  zoophilic
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  The thing is, even if it doesn't physically harm animals, we don't know if they can or cannot give consent. Our body language and their body language is different. For example. Many people assume a dog wagging its tail means it's happy. Did you know that dogs also wag their tails when they're scared though?

Why not... "Look, but not touch." so to say? Until we can find a definitive way to understand whether an animal can agree or disagree to sex, it's best just to keep everything at a non-sexual level. It's not the end of the world to not be able to fuck a dog.

  thewhitedragon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  dogfucker detected.

Anyway you cannot possible be serious in the comparing to homosexualism, homo sexualism is between humans, consenting adults & shit..

  agouti-rex
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  So now we can add dog fucking to your already lengthy list of idiocies?

Hahah good job you fucking piece of worthless shit

  chronidu
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Sexually abusing animals =/= two adult consenting humans having sex

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  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  dude. its not like that one bit. i love my cat so much, shes like a child to me. i can NEVER imagine putting my baby through the torture of having your body violated and being unable to talk.

Humans understand humans. humans do not understand animals.

and yes. it all harms animals. if not physically then mentally. many of them go crazy. please do some research and look up court cases.

  bluekewne
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm deeply offended that you even went to the level of comparing attacking bestiality to the persecution of homosexuals.

You are, a douchebag, that's right, a douchebag.

  multani82
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  ....you still fuck animals.....

  bigboobsmcgoo
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Homosexuality and kink sex is okay in the human realm because of informed consent. Not just consent.
Humans can have informed consent because we are capable of looking into the future and seeing the possible cause and effect of our actions. We know that we might (or very well will be) harmed by certain acts and deem the risk acceptable.
Dogs and nearly every other living non-human animal on this planet are not capable of considering possible future outcomes that might end in bodily or mental harm.
Therefore, animals cannot give informed consent.
Therefore, sex with an animal will always be considered rape.
Therefore, bestiality is bad, mkay?

  artslave
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  homosexuality isn't illegal
fucking an animal is in almost everywhere forever.
stop being a fucking criminal

oh yeah and you hate animals because you stick your dick in them.
don't bother responding, i don't listen to ten year olds.

  sulacoyote
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I bet the gay rights movement just loves you trying to throw bestiality in next to their struggle as a pathetic "Ooh, ooh, me too!". Try carrying an "Equal Treatment for People Who Have Sex With Animals" banner at a pride rally and tell me how far you get.

  willowwhispers
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I really wanna set that guy on fire.

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I SET YOUR MOM ON FIRE SHE WAS SCREAMING IN PAIN AND I LAUGHED SO HARD

  multani82
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I set your dog on fire, she screamed in pain while I laughed harder.

  joshstory
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Damnit, in New Jersey too (not that it is right in any state)...
FAU last month had an officer from NJSPCA there, talking about how much they liked the furries, because of the fandom's appriciation of animals, and willingness to donate.

  willowwhispers
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Also reposted hope its still ok... also put a link to that pettition

  shibby
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  here's my view. This was sick and wrong, i'd beat the man with an iron pipe if i could after violating him with the damn thing. But then i see people going "Humanity is dead" "This is why i hate humans" "blah blah fucking blah" and then i see Baltoracing using this to fuel this charity law. that's like Peta using the Baby P murder as an example of animal abuse. Now like i said, this was wrong, dont get ME wrong. but this is not typical in the least. this animal was, i'm sure as hell betting, BEATEN as well as abused.

then again i'm probably mixing up bestiality with zoophilia or something, whatever. the whole "not typical" thing i mean. I'm not standing up for people who rape animals, but there are those who... ok to put decently "there are those who let the animals do the work" so to say. hopefully you get what i mean. That's why i'm on the fence about the "raping of animals". again, yes, what this guy did was wrong, but i've never heard of stuff this bad before. so to me it's a grey area.

  holydust
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Just want to point out that there are still sexually transmitted diseases, infections, and sickness that can come from "letting animals do the work". It's not as harmless as it might sound -- though you only may not know that because you've not, thankfully, had any desire to do too much investigating. I've heard stories, though. Nothing has convinced me that there's ever really a safe or kind way to involve oneself in sex with animals. -_-; Short of being a farmer or rancher who has to do certain types of "maintenance" while practicing animal husbandry -- but they all are backed by agricultural science, and, you know, most do it as maintenance, not to explain a depraved desire away as "care" or "kindness".

  shibby
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  animal STDs? jesus!

  holydust
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yeah. ._. But the major concern is germs and infections. Letting a dog do a guy can give the poor pooch some serious germs, as can any handling of their genitals with human hands, etc... they're not really supposed to be exposed to our bacteria-ridden germified selves, and they have a very natural, evolutionarily-supported routine for keeping themselves clean and healthy. When a person steps in and tries to get their rocks off (no matter who is pitching or catching), the balance gets upset quite easily, and it can lead to serious problems.

You may or may not have heard of Java -- but that's a case where a female engaged in sex with a male dog, and he suffered infection to his genitals and had to have parts amputated. :( It's never safe.

  terribad
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  whoever says bestiality doesn't hurt/affect the animals needs to read this. :|

fucking disgusting, i hope that guy goes to jail and is banned from ever owning another animal again.

  merle
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Hurting a dog - especially a golden retriever, one of the most obviously friendly and happy-go-lucky breeds in the general view - is a good way to get an immediate and visceral reaction, much on the same level as seeing someone abusing a child.

I hope the poor dog can be helped, and gets a far better owner - and I hope the bastard responsible never gets within spitting distance of a dog again.

  seaweedprincess
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  That's absolutely heartbreaking.

I almost want to track this guy down and stomp him in the nuts, it's so awful, why would you even do that to an animal?

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  CAN I STOMP YOU IN THE NUTS TOO CAUSE I THINK YOU ARE A DOG FUCKER TOO

AFTER ALL YOU ARE A SICK FURRY

  seaweedprincess
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You know, trolling doesn't work if you announce that you're trolling, dawg.

You're adorable. I'll just pat you on the head and send you on your way like the lovable, precocious scamp you are.

Keep at it, Tiger. Maybe someday you'll make an 11 year old girl cry!

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  THEY SEE ME TROLLIN DEY HATIN

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  OH LORDY a wild troll appeared, its non effective.

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  LOL U MAD ?

  stahi
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I think he mad.

He also fucks dogs.

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  YOU FUCK DOGS TOO THEN AND CUM IN THERE ASSES AND PUSSIES

DIRTY FURFAG YOU MAKE ME SICK

  stahi
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  UR FAEC

  the-pale-tailed-fox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  old meme is old bro go back and grab a newer yet more effective one.

  fastbreak333
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Account created today, only posting in this journal and nowhere else, making thinly-veiled furry insults we've seen before.

0/10 - Go back and try to refine your troll skills a little more, sweetie. Practice makes perfect.

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  YOUR MOM IS WAITING FOR YOU AT A BUS STOP AND SHE IS CARRYING A BOX OF YOUR DILDOS

  fastbreak333
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  OH LAWDY NOT AGAIN I BETTER GO AND GET HER

  redregon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  b-b-but how will he be able to pretend he's anything but a useless dogfucker if he can't troll badly?

  redregon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  there's a real difference between a troll and a complete and utterly moronic retard... guess which one you are

i'll give you a hint, you need to go back to trolling school and address that F you got in class.

  saberkenji
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  heh, as the usual!
News about a zoophile caught in FA
Furries start to care about the dead dog and later someone disagrees
DRAMA STARTED
This is delicious...

  tvoj
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  AND I AM TROLLIN THIS SHIT

  jackojock
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Its not that someone disagrees, its the fact that the person is trying to justify the rape of a helpless animal by a human and the pathetic attempts at an argument he makes.

  saberkenji
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I see. It's pathetic really.

  fastbreak333
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I feel very sorry that you had to see a dog all mangled up like that. You did the right thing in reporting him and I applaud you for trying to keep a cool head through all of this.

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  thank you

  dreaththeshinigami
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Poor doggy.
That was sick and i hope he rots in hell er uh jail. >.>
I think i might also get sick. God i fucking hate most of the aspects of humanity.

  dearc
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Whoever this guy is, I hope he gets thrown into cell block C and turned into someone's bitch to death. Unfortunately, depending on the state, and that state's animal abuse/beastiality laws, he may just get a slap on the wrist and a fine.

Better hope I don't know him, or run into him knowing it was him. I may be a cripple r.l. but I'll surely go Domer on him.

We'll light a candle tonight for the poor dog.

  slythefox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Crap I hate to hear this. Things like that just isn't right. And you're expected 1-2 comments indeed has grown to a crapton. I'm totally for "To each their own' when it comes to their preference of gender and fetishes... but fucking an animal? It's just inhumane and wrong. An animal is as innocent as a child and like a child they feel pain and don't deserve to be abused. /rant


But yeah, the people in this world... All in favor of castrating people who rapes people and Animals, say I. It'd most likely drop the percent of charges and it's better then giving someone a fine and some time in jail where you're clothed, fed, and kept warm... all on tax payer dollars... then once they get out they can do it again.

  wovstah
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You know, what creeps me out is that the description of the anthro wolf on the hoodie is SO familiar to me... not just that, but the fact it was on the hoodie, on a heavier set man. *shudders* I think I've seen the guy before at AnthroCon or in a photo someplace, sometime.

That aside - omfg - that poor dog... all he did was offer unconditional love and his master betrayed him. I know what it's like to have an abscess in the hind end, and that alone is excruciating. The fact this poor dog had abscesses and broken bones all over just... I couldn't imagine the pain he was in.

  dearc
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  BTW

http://www.pet-abuse.com/

  chocobaba
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  i'm not picking sides on this whole argument.. i'm just saying my word.. but it's journals like this.. that stick a social group(w/e you want to call it, idc) with acts like this, from the sick minded people of the earth, that give every single social group bad reps.. even yes, the furry fandom, a lot of it's hatred is pointed at the sheer fact it's thought by the public as a porn hub. yeah, i do agree that what this guy has done is sick as fuck, but that does not mean that the entire groups of beastial people actually do these things. this is a current thing i see in every society.. everyone pinning the sick and outright fucked up stuff into a social group and makes the whole group look just as sick and fucked up and this needs to stop, look at the sick, single person instead of the whole group..

  forallgodscreatures
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Thank you for helping end this poor dogs torment!!! That is just so sick!!! Poor dog!! Please keep everyone posted as to what happens to the dog, and the sicko!! There is a movement to get beastiality (sorry if I spelled that wrong) made into a felony. Check out Charity's Law on FB. Thanks again for rescuing this poor dog.


  foxfairy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  All I can say is D:

Th NJSPCA seems really dedicated, they were at FA:U last month. I hope they lock him up for a good long while. I hear puppy fuckers don't get treated too well in prison. I think they can charge him for two years or more depending on how many counts of cruelty and to what degree they are.

:/ i hope this doesn't change their positive ideas of furries

  morigetsu
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  hello I was just reading this through one of my buddie's journals and it was a repost from you so I just had to put my two cents in. As a groomer's assistant and a kennel tech it really breaks my heart to hear a story like that so horrifying. I can tell ya this if a neglected animal was brought in a similar condition like that not only would the police and the animal group be called but the entire staff here where I work would definitely open up a can of whoop ass on the fucker. I know my boss too well and she would probably slug the asshole. But I'll keep my fingers cross and say a prayer for the poor golden.
~Morigetsu.

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  as a groomer it pains me in so many ways there was nothing i could really do for him, ive had some vettech training and i was just astonished that i have NEVER seen such abuse on a dog. not on the internet, not in reallife, not even roadkill seemed this bad. this is an image thats going to haunt me for a long time.

  hoot
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  “I hope to make people realize how totally helpless animals are, how dependent on us, trusting as a child must that we will be kind and take care of their needs... [They] are an obligation put on us, a responsibility we have no right to neglect, nor to violate by cruelty.”

  tesxacoyote
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I read every single comment here...[that is, when i finally reached the bottom a couple of minutes ago]

All i can say is that there are three very sick individuals here. :I

The man mentioned in the journal, and two others.
This is horrible. Absolutely disgusting on ALL levels. Behavior like that is unacceptable in my book.
Especially the obvious supporters of the despicable act. I can't believe it.

I won't be reposting this, but I have read it and feel terrible pain in my heart. The way people treat their animals is horrifying, and it hurts me to hear about it. I don't care if you think you know what your dog wants. I don't care what you think you know about animal psychology.
Having sex with an animal NOT in your species and genus is WRONG.

I had dinner between readings, and almost vomited remembering this. This is almost the worst story of animal abuse I've heard yet.

KaijuQueen, I apologize for the way people are reacting to this traumatic even you have witnessed.

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  thank you tesxa, im glad you understand. you are one of the few people to address me or care about what actually happened besides this wave of furry drama.

  tesxacoyote
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I honestly wish there was something I could do to help, or soothe, or even possibly 'make it better', but I think there has been too much damage. Not only to the dog and the horrible state he was in, but to the situation, and the feelings of those affected by it.

We lose so many animals to abuse and neglect. I cherish the time I spend with my animals, and feel lucky I have them to comfort me when I feel down.
To think that someone would take the feelings of their animals and twist them so much? \

To completely miss the fact that a companion animal is there when you come home from work, when you fall off your bike, when you feel like the world is on your shoulders...and they jog up to you with a kind and loving expression that makes you feel at ease, because this animal loves you for just being there... Who could EVER take these as advances? As something more than affection of a pet toward an owner?

I am a bit afraid to scroll to the drama cloud above. Who knows what god-awful things are being said.

  selunca
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  This this this. I'm sorry you had to see this, KaijuQueen, let alone have to deal with furry bullshit. :(

  maestroknux
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Defending Bestiality? FUCK THIS FANDOM!

  hoot
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oh, and you got more than two comments on this journal because I can assure you alot of people in this fandom share a pretty big passion for animals and how they are treated.
Honestly, my love for animals is why I got into this fandom in the first place.

  bikuu
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Dear God, there are some fucking stupid people up in here.

Here's some CapsLock for them, since CapsLocks seems to clarify things better in the land of the stupid:
IF YOU FUCK A DOG'S VAGINA WITH YOUR HUMAN PENIS, YOU WILL HURT IT. IT IS NOT BUILT FOR YOUR HUMAN PENIS, IT IS BUILT FOR A DOG PENIS. YOU WILL TEAR IT'S SHIT UP AND DAMAGE IT, CAUSING IT EITHER SEVERE PAIN OR LONGTERM DAMAGE. SEX, TO ANIMALS, IS MEANT FOR PROCREATION. YOU CAN NOT PROCREATE WITH A DOG. YOUR DOG LOVES YOU LIKE FAMILY OR A BEST FRIEND, NOT LIKE THE WIFE OR GIRLFRIEND YOU COULD HAVE IF YOU WEREN'T SEXUALLY ASSAULTING YOUR DOG. YOUR DOG MAY HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO LEARN HOW TO SIT, STAY, NOT JUMP ON PEOPLE, AND ON OCCASION AN OBSTACLE COURSE, BUT IT DOES NOT COMPREHEND THE COMPLEXITIES OF CONSENT AND AN INTIMATE RELATIONSHIPS. FIND A PERSON TO SHARE THAT WITH, YOU SICK AND STUPID FUCKS.

/endrant.

  tesxacoyote
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Tesxacoyote liked this post. :I

Seriously, I wanted to post this every five seconds when i saw a "DOGS CAN GIVE CONSENT TOO" comment.

  bikuu
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Omg, I know.

Which makes me want to add:
JUST BECAUSE IT WAGS IT'S TAIL AND SHOVED IT'S NOSE IN YOUR JUNK, DOESN'T MEAN IT WANTS TO SEX YOU. DOGS SNIFF EACH OTHER TO GET ACQUAINTED, LIKE IF WE SHOOK HANDS OR SOMETHING. IF IT HUMPS YOU, IT IS MORE THAN LIKELY TRYING TO ESTABLISH DOMINANCE. YOU DO NOT ESTABLISH YOURS BY RAPING IT.

>8I

  tesxacoyote
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Dear god. Truer words were never spoken.

Er.
Well, similar phrases were recycled over and over in above comments to TRY and get it through the heads of the deranged.

  bikuu
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I couldn't read it all. FA comments do that weird thing where 2 people will respond to one comment, but if someone responds to the first comment, the second comment is below the response. And I lose my place and get pissed off. LOL

  tesxacoyote
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Heh, I just determined by who said what, and whatever pissed of the commenter after XD

it got to a TLDR phase when i saw people repeat their arguments and none of it was going through. XD

  filthy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I love you right now ;A;

  veetanitu
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  For this right here, you have gained a new watcher. I could not applaud hard enough.

  prettykitty13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  To make matters worse.

The dog was a male.



  bikuu
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oh, dear God, I didn't even realize that.

  holydust
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I went to watch you for this comment, but was already watching you for your art. So pretend you got watched twice.

  bikuu
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  LOL~ Well thanks. :D <3

  dreamprophecy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Watching you because you're awesome. Just pretend Holydust did it or something >.>

  kiboe
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  or, get a job, pay some hooker on the street.

that's what i tell people who bitch about not being good with men or woman, and being a virgen

"dude, if you want sex that bad, get 50 bucks, and go down to 2nd street at about 12:30 in the morning, and go get a cheap motel room for one night, and FUCK, otherwise, stop bitching"

  darktail67
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Watcher +1. This is the first comment I'll fave when FA allows it.

  filthy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I do want to apologize for your inevitable exploding inbox right now. :/

And as for the dog, it's heart-breaking that it happened, yes. I hope he can be rehabilitated but I know that is unlikely. :c General animal abuse like this is what got me into the veterinary field. Hopefully this post will spread the same fire that found it's way under my own ass years back while watching shows like Animal Cops, and more folks will think about the importance of even just volunteering at shelters/rescues, or even studying veterinary care as a career. The kind of passion and logical thinking that comes out of threads shows that people do care-- and that's always good to see. Refreshing, really.

On the other side of the coin, it is irritating to see uneducated people come in and attempt to justify their sexual habits. :/ But yeah, what can you do.

Continue being awesome, OP.

  cepheus-starhowl
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  That was gag worthy. Dear lord.

  apollowolfhusk
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Drama waterfall

  bakuram
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  that sucks, sorry to hear what happened to the dog..

  kashmirofdreams
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  That's what I'm wondering.

  holydust
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I am so grateful that you alerted someone about this. That poor animal. What a sick fuck.

  kakesubime
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Zoophiliacs are fucking sick in this guy needs some serious mental help. I don't get what the fuck is with some people.

  bakuram
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm sure there are some Zoophiliacs that aren't THIS cruel to animals. Not fair to lump one with others via something negative, ya know?

  bikuu
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  What form of Zoophilia is considered acceptable?

  marijuana
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I think they're talking about non-practicing zoophiles. Zoophiles who do have an attraction to animals, but don't act on their desires because they know what can happen to the animals. There is a good amount of them out there.

  shikaro
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  me for example, i looove many animals and im attracted to them, but, human actually fucking them?
this is where fantasy and reality should be separated.

fuck animals in your dreams and drawings/stories, not in the real life D; it hurts them no matter how you see it

  kjorteo
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  The form where you like the thought of red rockets more than you probably should, but understand it's a bad thing with bad consequences when actually acted on, and keep it in your pants and maybe in pictures. Fantasy vs. reality, etc.

  bikuu
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  This.

IMO, it is some form of a mental illness. They need professional hep.

  bikuu
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  *help

  bakuram
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I don't think any sort of philia stems from mental illness, IMO.

  bikuu
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  To this extent, yes, I personally believe it is.
There is something mentally wrong with this person in order for them to think that this is ok, because it isn't.

  holydust
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  So a lady who is in love with a building or a car doesn't have something genuinely wrong with her brain? It is NOT that different. People who fixate on wanting to be sexual or emotionally involved with another species or an object may not be "crazyhouse" mentally ill, but you can not tell me it's normal. Thats what people mean when they say they "need help". It isn't normal.

That doesn't mean it's WRONG to have interests that are outside the norm, but if you think it's totally a-ok, well, people are going to disagree with you.

  holydust
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  And by "interests outside of the norm" I mean like, bondage or being obsessively into comic books. Things that don't have to risk harm to another living creature.

  bakuram
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  *see my recent comment*

  bakuram
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Thanks Holydust~

  bikuu
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm still waiting on a response to me previous question.

What form of Bestiality/Zoophilia is acceptable?
It isn't a snarky question, I'm genuinely curious.

  kakesubime
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  This is kind of my train of thought. I mean, sure, we're all furries, we all like animalistic things. But people that actually go and physically act on this shit, hurting animals and maybe even people in the process... That's what I seriously find fucked up.

And no, I don't think there is any good type of zoophilia in the IRL sense. I think it's sick.

  bakuram
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Here's my take on it, I say it's dependent on the person(s)/group(s). One person/group may view it one way, while another can view it another. To me, I think Beastiality/Zoophilia isn't as bad as people make it out to be. Like plenty of things, EVERYONE(including myself on alot of topics) seem to hone in only on the negatives and just tend to shun out anything but.

Apologies for my previous reply to your reply Bikuu, I derfed and didn't pay attention to button tab thingy I clicked.

  kakesubime
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  And my take on it is that I think anyone who acts on zoophilia in reality is sick person and has mental problems, in all instances.

I don't see all zoophilia as rape, I see all zoophilia as all sexual acts involving animals.

And that's my opinion, just gonna solidify that.

  holydust
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Wait, what? Thanks for what? I was disagreeing with you. I totally disagree with you.

  holydust
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Exactly. I just honestly am tired of seeing "well, I think it's okay to do it" and "it's not as bad as people say it is" like that's some kind of convincing argument. Bullshit, it's not. Bullshit.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  There was a study done on teens with criminal history. Something like 96% of all the teens who had sexually assaulted humans had sexually assualted animals as well.
Also, there is a link between poor childhood/upbringing and sexually abusing animals :)

  vickychaitea
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  So pedophilia isn't a mental illness?

  sekar
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  how about necrophilia?
All of these examples are paraphilias, which are in the DSM, but are only classified as mental disorders if they cause distress or harm to the other being. I would go an and argue this with you, but it's 1am for me, so here, have a lazy copy paste from wikipedia

"In the current version of the DSM (DSM-IV-TR), a paraphilia is not diagnosable as a psychiatric disorder unless it causes distress to the individual or harm to others. The DSM-5 draft adds a terminology distinction between the two cases, stating that "paraphilias are not ipso facto psychiatric disorders", and defining paraphilic disorder as "a paraphilia that causes distress or impairment to the individual or harm to others".[16] This will make a clear distinction between a healthy person with a non-normative sexual behavior and a person with a psychopathological non-normative sexual behavior."

  crimsonfirekat
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Uh eheh...;; I journal'd about this anyway sorry?

I just... Animal abuse is the one thing I absolutely cannot fucking abide.

  Comment hidden by its author
  strawberryneko
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I agree with others, I'm so sorry you had to see such a sad site, I don't even know how I could have reacted in that situation.

But, don't feel too bad, you did more then enough. There's not much you can do to prevent these things from happening, but you saved that dog by speaking up instead of keeping you're head down, which a lot of people do. Even if they end up putting it down, it's better then the life it lead.

I do feel sad though that he may not get the chance to try again and find loving owners who spoil him and cuddle him.

  prettykitty13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You know what's so funny? (please, not in a haha type of funny)

People that are ignorant to the furry fandom think that all furs do is have sex with animals and such.
I do admit that there are those type of people out there.

But what's the difference?
In the Anime fandom, there are the loli and shota lovers that actually act upon those fantasies and I have not yet seen someone come down on them publicly. Media, I mean.
I can think of three shows that's truthfully made a bad image to the Furry fandom:

CSI
My Strange Addiction
1,000 Ways to Die


  marijuana
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  In general though, furries seem to be more known for the porn and being crazy. Mostly at the fault of the shows you've listed giving everyone an unfair introduction into the fandom. When you think about it though... To people outside of the fandom, furry porn just looks like some weird pseudo-bestiality stuff anyway.

  cycanine
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  there is plenty of crazy here > >;

  bikuu
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I got in more than one argument on occasion with my ex boyfriend, who would bash furries all the time because he "liked my art, but wished it wasn't furries" because he thought furries = animal fuckers. And I'd have to constantly argue about how there's crazy, sick people anywhere you go, not just furries. And how most furries I know are extremely AGAINST bestiality.

And on that note:
Thank you, sick fucks of the furry fandom, for continuing to soil the public's view of what a furry is and causing people to further think that all furries do is fuck animals. I hope you're proud of yourself.

  hoot
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  i completely agree.
i get so upset when a furry is mentioned, and they are automatically deemed sex fiends.
it's funny, because old friends of mine who honestly weren't true friends have demoralized me because I've posted mature art of my boyfriend and I's character.
my boyfriend and I's characters, i specify. not my character with anyone elses, or inflation, or scat, any sort of kinks, yet they deem me out to be like that when 99 percent of my gallery is, still, clean art. it's rather frustrating.

so yes
"Thank you, sick fucks of the furry fandom, for continuing to soil the public's view of what a furry is and causing people to further think that all furries do is fuck animals. I hope you're proud of yourself. "

  kaeko
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I am so sorry...this should never happen to any animal...

  ranthor
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Read this through the re-post chain. I just wanted to say good luck if you go to court.

  hexidimentional
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  They should put this faggot down... and thats coming from someone who's once or twice fantasized about beastiality... because thats all it should be at best... a fantasy WHAT THE FUCK WAS HE DOING TO THAT THING? i mean... HE BROKE ITS JAW? WTF.... the poor guy.... and its pelvic bone? what teh hell was he fucking doing it must have resisted something feirce...

they should give him the fucking chair

  hexidimentional
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  ... no.. they should put him away for life next to bubba... the serial rapist

  bakuram
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Fun part, I spy with my eyes, nothing in here that's related to standard issue Beastiality/Zoophilia. Just beyond weapons grade animal abuse.

  hoot
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  the person was calling his dog hot. lol

  bakuram
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Jokingly with the boss..lol.

  hoot
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I don't think anyone in their right mind, and knowing how some furries can be, will joke around like that. Though it's a possibility, but if an odd furry can come up and sniff my ass, they sure as well can go to a veterinary office/shelter/wherever the setting is, and gloat about how they find their animal attractive.
and i think the marks on the neck and the fact that the sheath is ripped speak for itself, but that's just my opinion. anything could have happened, but i cant quite comprehend why a person generally abusing their dog would take the time to rip it's sheath when there are much more grueling things they can do to their dog.

for instance, like this animal here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnT-Um2ZMak
who was shot 40 times in the head, tied up around the legs, and then buried.
I think people are accusing this to be an offense from a zoophile because of the coincidences between the injury, the 'type' of person he was, and the comments he made towards her/his boss.

  bakuram
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Like you said yourself, anything could've happened. A ripped sheath and marks on the neck kinda scream, 'Animal Abuse', to me anyways. The guy must've found great enjoyment from abusing his dog, and thought, "Why stop there?"

All-in-all though, what happened does suck massive.

  hoot
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oh yea of course it screams animal abuse. And yea, you can't know for sure and you won't really unless this guy says so himself. But just some of the evidence of the abuse points to that assumption that it was through sex.
It's just that people view their animals as objects, and i absolutely despise that. :/
it does suck. i whole heartedly agree.

  bakuram
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Quote: It's just that people view their animals as objects, and i absolutely despise that. :/
My take on said quote: It's just that somepeople view their animals as objects, and i absolutely despise that. :/

But I agree.

  hoot
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  That's what I meant. I think it's blatantly obvious that not everybody views their animals as object. But thanks for correcting I suppose. lol

  bakuram
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Did it for those that may view it the wrong way~ ..lol.

  hoot
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I think they're old enough to distinguish that lol but thank you

  nightfallgeminiimporter
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  people like that need to be shot.

  bakuram
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Wholeheartedly agree.

  clockwork
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  This is one of the things I both look forward to, and dread about becoming a veterinarian. I dread having to see animals abused this way. TBH it makes me sick to my stomach, but I look forward to being able to turn in people like this to the proper authorities when they come through my doors with an animal they've screwed into a painful oblivion. My condolences for you having to see that.

/RANDOM COMMENTER, AWAY

  bakuram
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I know who I'm coming to when I need to take my planned to be obtained Husky in for check-ups.. =:^__^:=

  clockwork
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Hooray! BUSINESS!

  reaver666
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Poor dog. =( The dude should be put away for life never to see the light of day!

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Unfortunately in the US you can only be sentenced to a year for killing an animal so I image he will get far less time.

  kleemin
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm really sorry that you had to witness such a terrible event, and I wish there were a way I could help you get over this matter. I found your journal through a person I was watching, and I really like your art, so I'm watching you out of interest, definitely not because of this journal.

I can't imagine what it's like to witness what you did. Also, I'm sorry that you're dealing with potentially a lot of spam/flack/notes. I hope you're not overwhelmed or anything.

  ashto10
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  NJ you say... interesting. Any chance of passing along detail so we know where to send the mob?
Seriously, I teared up reading the description, and had to force myself to finish it. The poor animal...

  mattakushinzu
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Poor doggie.
I hope that bastard gets what he deserves.

  kwolf13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Wow, things really blew up in here.

Once again I wanted to say, I'm sorry you had to witness something so deplorable. It's a shame you had to see the ugliest side of this fandom. I can only say that karma will catch up to that sick individual, and the idiots actually DEFENDING him in this conversation.

I'm going to watch you now, because you seem like a pretty cool person :3

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Thanks for posting this. its really rooting out some creepers 8x

you did a great job. Thank fucking god there are people like you.

  kiri-vixen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I don't understand why people had to get into such big arguments in your journal over grammar, typos and such when we're talking about a man who raped his dog. :/ It's honestly sad that none of these people have anything to do with their lives but to argue about typos on the internet.


but with that aside I'm very sorry for that dog and I hope they don't have to put him down and he can live a happy life after this mess. I send him my love <3 [the DOG not the bastard human]

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  thank you. i dont understand it either. also many people dont beleive this happened, i cant unsee what happened. and im sorry im not a sick fuck to take a picture of all of it. i hope they dont have to put the dog down either. but sometimes its impossible to predict it.

  punkbawkchicken
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I have no idea WHY he decided to drop the dog off if it was that seriously injured...Goes to show you just how ignorant he was about that poor pup's health

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I have a few questions.

Why do you assume he was a furry? What bearing does that have on the crime he committed?
What was the purpose of saying that?
What exactly were the comments he made that led you to believe he sexually assaulted the dog?
Did he actually say something like "Hes such a good bitch" or "Who wants to screw this sexy bitch"?
If not then how can you assume he was talking about the dog?
Why are you running around the internet posting threads accusing him of being a dog fucker? He might have not even been the person who abused the animal. You don't know for a fact who hurt the dog. You don't even know he had sex with it.
I feel the most important issue is the condition the animal was in when he was brought into the clinic not "OMG I think hes a dog fucker". You can't just accuse someone of something like that. Its wrong.
I'm not saying he didn't have sex with the dog. He may have. But you have no right to accuse him when you don't know for a fact.

  bizaara
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm pretty sure if it was a friend of the person who did it or a good person who found the dog, etc. they'd be a little more aware of the damage as well as at least a little bit more upset. Do you honestly think if it were someone else besides the abuser, that they would take the dog to the vet for emergency care and not grooming.

Think about it.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Do you honestly believe someone would mutilate a dog and rape it then walk into a groomers and say things that make people believe he abused the animal?

Think about it.

  bizaara
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  People are really that fucking stupid.

  bizaara
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  So why would an innocent person do the same freaking thing?

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  They wouldn't.
Thats the point.
I think shes making it up.

  bizaara
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You do realize that the world is actually full of sick-os, and people who don't think. This entire thing just sounds a tad absurd, especially the guy. Holy crap does he sound absurd. But that doesn't mean it being actually REAL is impossible.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  It could have happened but I doubt it.

  bizaara
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Why are you so bent on disproving this?

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Because I hate liars and people who spread lies to stir up drama.

  bizaara
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I highly doubt this was made up to start drama :/ She's a dog groomer. I was a bather at a dog salon for a while and we saw possible signs of neglect on some dogs. Hell we had in five dogs, all riddled with fleas from head to toe, and in rough shape. They looked like they were just left outside and barely touched. It was fucking awful. Another dog who's hair was one giant mat on her freaking body. There is no way that this is made up just to start drama

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  No one is going to rape and beat a dog then take the dog into a public place and brag about it.
Its more than just a little absurd.

  bizaara
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  As I keep saying, it's entirely possible.

  dragonzoomer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  because he was gonna run away. he basically did run away since she says the cops had to find it. she'll give us more information when she gets it, she said so herself. im pretty damn sure shes not lying

  thaily
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Same way that Bosnian girl didn't throw puppies in a river and post it on-line?
Or that Kenny Glenn didn't beat up his cat Dusty and put that on-line?

There is no limit to human stupidity.

  kwolf13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Or how about those soldiers that threw a live puppy off a cliff, then posted it on Youtube?

But no, he's right. People are totally not that stupid at all.

  thaily
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Or that woman who was stepping on kitten in high heel shoes.

Think of the worst thing people could ever do and I guarantee you, someone has done worse :/

  kwolf13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yah, someone posted a video on 4chan once where a lab mix was just sitting there and all of a sudden someone came and beat the shit out of him with a shovel. You could see it smashed his head in and dislocated his jaw. It was on Youtube, but of course taken down shortly after it was posted.

So for this guy to say someone wouldn't abuse a dog and make it public, is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. He obviously doesn't watch enough news or something.

  kayote
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I have had owners beat their dog and bring them in to groom, and they tell me their technique of training and brag about it.


It DOES happen. Thanks.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  A man in my city put a condom on his dog so that it wouldn't jizz all over his house


Things like this actually do happen and are actually this bizarre. Google it if you don't believe me.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yeah I'm really going to believe anything you say.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Putting a condom on a dog hardly qualifies as animal abuse >.>

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Its cock rotted

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Google "Charity's Law" and read the story. The dad trained/fought dogs [idk which] and bragged about it to the vet. People are really that stupid.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Well I can see someone from Bosnia or some other backward country doing things like that. I knew a guy years ago who came over from Russia on a fishing boat who I use to drink with. One night we were pretty loaded and listing to Cannibal Corpse. He suddenly says "I want to find a girl and rape her"
O.o

I was like WTF.

He was dead serious. He goes on to explain in Russia its ok to rape woman and that he found it quite hilarious. I kicked his ass out of my house and told everyone I knew what he said.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  The only way that could have happened is if the penis was constantly exposed to dry air. If he kept it on the dogs penis in a way that constricted blood or something then I can see how it was abuse.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  .....
He put the condom on his dogs dick
He took it outside and it got loose and ran around and was found in a field with a black, rotting dick.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_f98opUNuV.....U/s400/dog.jpg
ttly nawt animal abyooz.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm not signing that. It straight up says "Help make Bestiality a Federal Crime." What does Bestiality have to do with some idiot fighting his dogs? That would be a retarded law to pass. I understand his son was caught having sex with the animals but if that law is passed it will justify what the father did in his mind.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  No, I never asked you to sign it, I asked you to read the story.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm just saying. Whomever put that petition together clearly did not think of what they were doing.
Making Bestiality a Federal Crime will not stop dog fighting. That is the reason the dogs were torn up.
Yes the kid put things into the animals that had to be removed. Clearly the boy has serious mental issues. He should be removed from society and put in a mental hospital. His father however was the one who did the most damage to the animals.

  thaily
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  'cept Kenny and the American soldiers who threw puppies off a cliff were American. Yeehaw.

  benchilla
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Sniff, this journal doesn't identify who the person was, but rather furthers awareness to the horrors of animal abuse. There has been drama in the comments over some very stupid people who think bestiality is okay, but it's not like that's the journal poster's fault, since you're always going to attract those types with these discussions. There really isn't a good reason to think this was made up.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Dogfighting is illegal. They were not concentrating on dogfighting in that petition - they were concentrating on the fact that a child sexually abused puppies.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Other than the fact that no one in their right mind would publicly present an abused animal to people they know would more than likely report them to the police? Yeah. Its totally absurd.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I don't know anything about that.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  It must have constricted the blood or something. Either that or it prevented the penis from entering the sheath.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Probably the former

  benchilla
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  No one in their -right- mind. There are plenty of deranged people in the world. Sure, it sounds absurd, but can you actually name a motive as to why anyone would make this up when they're not even trying to ruin someone's reputation? Come on.

  Comment hidden by its author
  thaily
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Obviously. You know too little of these matters to still be arguing your would-be point.

  thaily
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  In response to "PhilipJFry".
Stupid comments messing up.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to smell bullshit.

  thaily
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Indeed.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Either she

A knows the guy. And has some kind of grudge against him.

B Suspects that he has sex with his dog but can't prove it. Thus she makes up the whole "He has a tight ass" comment.

0r C shes trying to label furs as zoophiles.

  benchilla
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  A & B, again, don't make sense since the person is not identified here, and as such there's no reputation to be slandered. And C is just absurd since, if she hated furries, she wouldn't post regularly here. Come on dude, listen to yourself.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  >if she hated furries, she wouldn't post regularly here

Then explain the mass of trolls who make accounts on FA just to fuck with furs.

  benchilla
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  When I say post, I mean the fact that she regularly uploads artwork, which most troll accounts wouldn't do, and this clearly isn't a troll account. You're grasping at straws here dude.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  There are plenty of accounts on FA that are not made by furs. Hell a lot of them even say "Species: human?" So no. I am not grasping at straws.

  benchilla
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm not saying there aren't, I'm saying that this isn't a troll account. Also, you seem to be implying that signing up for this website but not being a furry makes someone a troll, which is just absurd.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I know you're from lulz so obviously you made that account for the purpose of trolling.


  benchilla
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I

Wait, what are you even talking about, what account? Are we having the same discussion anymore?

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  >I'm saying that this isn't a troll account.

  kayote
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  And that is why dog abuse continues to happen, because YOU don't believe things like that happen.

I feel sad for you. I really do.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  No. I know animal abuse is real. I just know that people aren't going to go out in public and flaunt it like a badge of honor.

  benchilla
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I mean the girl who posted the journal. Of course, my account isn't a "troll" account either, but yeah.

  benchilla
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Some people are mentally deranged. You seem to be convinced that crazy people simply do not exist, and that anyone who would write a story about something ridiculous is a liar, regardless of how spotless their reputation is, and how little basis there is for such a believe. Read some Darwin Awards entries when you get the chance, that should really put in perspective just how crazy some people will get.

  jason
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You're a moron, that isn't what he said at all.

I feel sorry for you that you are so stupid.

  kayote
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  ...um, they do. There are videos of dog fights, cock fights, people hitting dogs, beating dogs. News reports of the such, people who openly admit, TO OTHER PEOPLE, they beat the shit out of their dogs for eating their x-box controllers.

NO.

That is absoLUTELY untrue. People take pride that they are above animals, and only the insecure would go so far to hurt one to make them feel so "manly".

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Thats nice.

  kiboe
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  and didn't get discharged or in deep shit.

the fact that the military guys post videos on youtube of them doing stupid stuff...sort of makes us look stupid, as a country.

  kiboe
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  or both

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Google Kenny Glenn.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  How would a condom keep a dog's penis from retracting back inside? [sorry, couldn't think of a better word]
All it is is a thin sheet of latex or w.e

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I don't know. I'm not in the habit of touch dog penises,

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  This comment wasn't in reply to you. The "Google Kenny Glenn" one was.
Google it and tell me that people aren't stupid enough to record/brag about abusing animals and then posting it to the public to see

  kayote
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Figured.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I can't find the video he supposedly made but yeah theres a video of some masked teenager beating a cat. How is that him bragging about it? hes wearing a mask. How do people even know Kenny Gleen even did it? I am asking because I never heard about this.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  "masked" lmao I'm pretty sure Kenny Glenn wasn't masked when he was slamming it against the wall of his bathroom, laughing :)
You can see it on OhInternet or Encyclopedia Dramatica. But I don't want to access those sites on this computer as it's not my own.

4chan caught him because he posted the videos online and linked them to another one of his videos on youtube by looking at the carpet in the background or some shit.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I don't want to watch the video, I can't stomach that shit but here's something about it
http://federalism.typepad.com/crime.....e-in-jail.html

  icen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Clayton stop talking smack on the dog-fuckers. They know more than you or any professional who studies non-human and human behavior, or the brains of said-creatures. Don't you know that.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  They can connect their penis with the anus of a dog and can read its thoughts and share spiritual memories.
We will never understand.

  icen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  IT'S LIKE AVATAR. BUT INSTEAD OF THE BRAID-THINGS, IT'S THEIR PENORZ.

  jason
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Are you saying that's nice that i'm defending you or what?

Kind of vague.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Wait...
weren't you calling me a moron?

  jason
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  No, i was calling kayote a moron for putting words in your mouth, or that was the intention.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oh. I'm sorry. I'm so use to people insulting me and not listening to me I thought you were calling me a moron.

  kwolf13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You obviously are very unaware of the darker, sicker side of this world. This isn't the first instance I've read about a dog (or any animal really) being severely abused both physically and sexually. Though I read about it in the news or saw it on TV (News, Animal Cops, etc...)

Maybe it was too quick to assume that he was a furry, but does that really make a difference? Besides, she never said he was a furry. She said he had a furry on his shirt, which could mean he is one, but it could also just mean he likes wolves.

  kiboe
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  about a couple years ago there was a story of a guy who put his cat in a homeade bong to try and "calm it down" the cat is fine and with a new owner now, but, the guy got a fine.

  acorn
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  If you read the comments above, she has a theory that he took the dog in to leave him because he was no longer "good". He had already left when they called police and he was arrested. It was likely he believed they would just keep their mouth shut because they are a grooming facility.


I've personally talked to her a number of times outside of FA and I don't believe she'd make up something so horrible.

  sabertooth-kitty
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Saw this posted in someone else's journal. My word, that poor creature...

I've never owned a golden (though we've had other dogs), but as it turns out I'm pet-sitting someone's golden right now. Just looking at her and knowing one of her own has gone through so much pain and misery just breaks my heart.

I'm sorry you had to witness such a dreadful sight, but I'll be praying that things work out for the best. Hopefully the creep can be put away where he can't harm another living creature ever again, and that the dog can be saved and be placed in a far more caring home.

I know this whole mess must be really stressful for you as well. Take care; we're with you. :)

  bizaara
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oh my god :c I can't believe anyone could do that to a dog, much less anything else. ; ; poor thing, at least he's safe now.

  foxtrack
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  that poor dog. Raped, beaten, abused, tortured. Hope they do have the asshole go to jail for a long time.

  azelyn
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  If someone handed me that dog and I noticed it was hurt that way while they were still in the room, I would have lost my job...and probably gone to jail. hell, I would have lost my job if he just uttered those 'jokes' in my direction.

  nobeastiality
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I hope you don't mind if I post this as a journal entry to help illustrate some of the depths that bestialits will go to in pursuit of their perverted drive.

... this is also making me weep :C Poor poor dog, i hope he's in heaven and no longer suffering.

  yaoivixenboi
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'm not going to go into my feelings about any fetish, I'm not going to start shit with anyone.... I normally would.....

But this is sick.... I hope he finds a nice friend in Gen. Pop. to introduce him to what happens to sexual deviants/criminals in prison.

*hugs a lot* I know you don't know me, but this sickened me just reading it. *hugs as much as forever* I do grief counseling and post-traumatic stress counseling (I'm a victim of PTSD myself) and I am willing to make myself available to talk if you need to, free of charge.
MSN/YIM/AIM
Texting
over the Phone... whatever you need if you need it.

This is incredibly disturbing. I really hope you can get over it.

  graeth
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  what the shit

  trashedbat
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I didn't repost the journal but I did repost that petition link.
I'm sorry you had to experience this first hand, but glad you're able to get him in trouble.

  kintuse
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Poor thing... I can't believe someone would do such a thing... but I guess it shouldn't be surprising either... some people are just pure evil.

  johnnyblanco
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  all I can say is this.. I feel terrible for this dog and I wish someone would put the OWNER out of his misery. Fucking cunt. If you have a dog give it a big hug 'n tell 'em you love 'em. That's what I am going to do right now.


  yiffy4ever
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  aaaaaaaaaaaaaand this is why so many people hate furries .-. we need to cleanse the fandom

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  The last thing the fandom needs is a Nazi style cleansing. Do you really thing people would just stop at members who publicly admit to being into Bestiality? You have no idea how many people in the world automatically associate Furry with Bestiality.

  yiffy4ever
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  kill them all!!! mwahahahhaha!!! ill get mah pitch fork!!! imma heatin up ma gas chamber!!!! X3

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  *think

  scales4sales
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I seen this post on mixnmatch  mixnmatch

This must be the morning tend...... here a petition I sign on another post because of sick twisted "2 legged animals"...
I signed
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/take.....n/868/425/254/

DUDE like for real why on god's green earth do people feel the need to do things to such poor animals. I am not a fan of dogs but to hear them being used as a beating toy and a sex toy with a heartbeat is so freaked sick! People like that should be put into jail with well hung inmates and be called "their bitch"

I am ever so sorry you had to see that... that something that can never be unwatched again...**Hugs**

  muddy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I came from Korrok's journal... and man am I terribly sad to hear this :(


Did the dog actually leave your place of business with this guy, or did you guys seize the dog.. if you can even do that? I feel so sad that the dog will likely have to be euthanized. I hope his suffering ends quickly.

Instances like this make me feel ashamed to call myself a fur.

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  no no no. the man dropped off the dog (and again ill say from above the dog looks to have little no no problems) so after i went to work on the dog did i see the problem. then the police where called, and asapca (i didnt want to say that exactly cause im not sure if its really them or something similar) they removed the dog from our shop so he could be examined and treated by a vet.

  muddy
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oh good. So glad to hear that you guys didn't have to turn the dog back over to the owner!

  korrok
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Just a quick note since I came back by here and saw your edit about the reposts. I did link back to this journal from mine, but did not do this to get any internet gangs lined up, I reposted it purely to try and show people who consider themselves "tolerant" "accepting" or "fence sitting" on the issue of bestiality that it is a horrific crime and a disgusting practice. I hope this doesn't bother you, and if it does, I will remove my entry.

I'm very sorry you had to witness this, though.

  spectre118
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  It is absaloutly pathetic that someone would do this, if i saw this person face to face I'd want to beat the crap outta him. What kind of sicko is this guy, I hope he dies for what he's done.

And that poor dog, I feel so sorry for him, broken jaw, mutilated, and raped, god I feel so sorry for him. Sorry if this sounds cruel, but I hope the dog is put down so this suffering can end. Those injuries sound sevear to the point where the dog would never fully recover, poor ll guys probaly emotionally scared too.

Fuck I hate that fat piece of shit that could do this to an animal and then joke about it, he's not only a disgrace to furrys but also a disgrace to humans, I truly hope he dies, slowly and painfully, a death only fit for the sickest of people.

Poor dog...

  shikaro
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  well helll
that's absolutely disguisting
rape/torture/beating up animals OR humans, outside a fantasy, is completely nasty. im sorry you had to see these actions. o-o;
i'd repost this buuuuut im not used to repost almost anything.

people dont understand that Fantasy=/=Reality. in other words, you can draw yourself fucking a dog, or write about it, but doing it in real life is wow.

i usually dont care about zoophilics but this is incredible o-o

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  yeah everyone reposting this is getting heat from it. (since i never asked anyone to spread this around) but whatever ideas you have yes. keep it in there, those thoughts arent ment for reality.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  "getting heat from it"

:S Why?

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  like, they are getting the countuied drama thats happening on here :/ it sucks man.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oh, I'm not. We're just going "ew that's gross" in my journal hahah

  yourmainparadox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Sounds like its not true... A dog with a broken or out of place pelvis and a broken jaw would not be walking in the store to begin with because it wouldn't be able to walk. Also people don't generally brag about sex with animals outside of the net or furry groups... also people don't bring in animals in that condition to get groomed because they show a lack of caring for the dogs well being to begin with..... why get him groomed when you don't care for other needs he broke bones puss etc etc etc. Sorry I worked as a groomer and then a vet tech for the city (which deals with abused animals) and it sounds off WAY off. People that abuse their dogs do not bring them in to be groomed. I have seen dogs come in from sexual abuse and from abuse abuse and from neglect but the facts here are well not right.

  shikaro
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  there is this dog in the street close to my house with the pelvis AND a leg unusable, close to my house. no one even gets close to her because she's damn aggresive, yet she still walks. [thank god her jaw is not broken, if that happened she'd be dead in no time]
you never know what type of people you find out there. or situation, its like 1000 ways to die, insolit, extremely weird, but possible.

  kayote
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I am a groomer AT a vet, and I see out of place pelvises all the time, with them walking (albeit, very slowly) And jaws broken, and we groom them before surgery, or if the people don't want to do anything about it. Or if the dog is so old, surgery is out of the question. We still groom them. People who abuse their animals DO bring them to the groomer. I've had people openly beat the living shit out of their Rottie in the parking lot, right after it got a bath, nail trim, anal glands expressed, and so on

Also, I've seen open, seeping wounds when people bring them in, infested with fleas to the point of anemia. Skin and bones, broken legs, tails, collars embedded in necks, mats so thick, when you finally release the skin from the fur, it bleeds, rips, tears. I've seen ticks infesting ears and anuses to the brim.

Working at a petco at the time before the vet, I was grooming a Springer Spaniel with anal glands so huge, we could not express them. I tried externally, as the is the only way were were allowed. And the suddenly, something came out. It was a god damned condom, semen was still inside the condom.
We notified the police, as it was concerning. When the owner came to pick up the dog, he was stopped and questioned. He openly admitted to having sex with the dog before he brought the dog. That is why he brought the dog to the groomer; because he was dirty. He mentioned that the dog would do anything for peanut butter.

So, no, people who abuse animals bring their dogs to the groomer. Some people do admit or brag to having sex with their animals.

Also, it makes me sad that a fellow groomer who claims to have worked for a vet for the city would say that people who abuse their animals would never get them groomed. Because that is a false statement if I EVER saw one.

Thank you.

  hoot
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  why though
why in the fucking world would they allow their animals to get wounds like that
and then bring them in to be groomed?
thats what i can't fathom. that does not connect.
if they are so willing to not spend money on proper healthcare or foodfor their wounds, why would they spend money as something so simple as being groomed.
that, and it is shameful for them to bring their dog in like that. it is shameful.

i really do agree a bit with the post above.
some people may have sex with their animals but that doesn't mean they can't spoil them either. some zoophiles do take care of their animals, im sure. not every zoophile is a coldhearted animal abuser that would blatantly break their animals bones and so forth, even though it's incredibly WRONG as it is to have sex with their dogs.
so i can understand f they bought it in.

however, a person who abuses, especially NEGLECTS their dog, i believe, would not bring their animals in. if a person neglects their dog they are not caring for it. so why in the world would they bring it to be groomed.
whether it be true or not, thats absolutely shameful. and does not make sense.

  kayote
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  What we find horrendous, out of place, and so on really doesn't matter to those who DO neglect and abuse. I have heard of people who treat their "sex partners" very well. However, I have seen dogs/cats that were brought it because finally, the owner "felt bad" or "someone said something". Police around here don't give two shits about animals with the law. As long as the dog has water, food, and shelter, it is A-OKAY. If you don't have that followed, then you MIGHT get a ticket or something small. Some slap on the wrist.

I can link you to a photo of a dog I did, shaved, and fixed up as much as a groomer could do. (The owner refused ANY vet services other than a rabies shot).
Here is "S'day" -- http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/.....Kayote/ne4.png
Each mat was covered in stickerburs, dead bugs, hooks (fishing hooks, I believe) and had blood in them. There were BB gun pieces in the fur. I don't even want to go into that.
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/.....Kayote/ne5.png
Note the broken leg turning inwards. The dog is overweight because the owners left tons of food out, because the law is to have food, water, and shelter. There are multiple bald spots from severe matting (shaved with a #15 blade, which is DANGEROUSLY close, but they were so matted) and I didn't get a pic of the ear, my coworker has that.

The owners openly abused the dog, kicking it on the side when the dog refused to get up off the floor, it's front leg was broken, and it had spinal injury. It's ear was so matted and covered in ticks, the ear was deteriorating. We asked them and pleaded them to schedule an appointment with a vet, but they said "It was just a stupid dog, and it's going back outside anyway".

People are THAT cruel. They don't even have to sexually abuse a dog. Abuse is abuse, and people who do bring them in SHOULD be reported to the authorities, as we do (we give the police and animal workers license plate numbers and whatever they need to further inspect, with the correct permissions). Some people do NOT report abuse, neglect, and so on, because they don't want to lose that client, because that's money in someone's pocket. However, I don't fucking play that game.

It's really sad, Hoot, and it IS shameful, sad, and disgusting. :(

  kayote
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oh, and she was covered in piss and shit, because the dog couldn't relieve herself properly due to the mats.

  hoot
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  fishing fucking hooks?
oh my fucking god this poor dog :/
ugh, i just hope that in your care you and the staff were able to give MUCH love to that dog as you possibly could because oh my goodness that poor thing.
this is why i just want to be a complete advocate to helping animals who have been abused for the rest of my life. i seriously do. i just can't stand this kind of crap.
i can't stand this race.

ugh. i dont know what goes through people's minds, but i guess im proud to say im a good enough person to have shame if i treated my dog like that and bought them in. i would be fucking embarassed. but it's like people just don't care and it's fucking disgusting.
no, i spoil my animals. i really do. i love them all so much and i'm so glad theyre in my care as I'm not afraid of something like this happening to them. and i respect all of those who care about there animals just as i do, or even more so.

god bless. that's so depressing. and it sucks, because alot of people do see wrong in all of this, but they just turn away and pretend it doesnt fucking happen. they dont do shit about it when they can really make a difference.

ugh, just this all the way:
""Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way."

  kayote
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  If I could "like" a post, I would here. Thank you.

  acorn
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I had a puppy hit by a car who had a shattered pelvis and still tried her damndest to walk. She had to be euthanized.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Thank you.
This is exactly what I have been trying to say. It totally reeks of bullshit.

  avyris
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Poor pup.

I don't know why everyone is getting so pissed off about this. Whether or not this was caused by bestiality should be irrelevant, this dog was clearly badly injured, and this man was just bringing it in to be groomed? As you say you're not a vet clinic? That's absurd, regardless of how the injuries occurred, it's clearly neglect on his part for not taking care of a bleeding pus-ridden animal that cannot defecate properly.

Shame on everyone who forgets that in defense of some internet fandom.

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  thank you. this is going on mostly if this was a furry or not. i frankly dont care if this guy was a furry or not, it was just me putting out the horrors of what some people do to their dogs.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Then why even mention that you thought he might be a fur? You even hinted to people that they should look for him on here. Clearly you intended to label him as a fur.

  taijii
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Wow.. this thing really went Viral.. didn't it. I guess in a way it's good because the news is getting out there of what "can" happen when people do this to a dog and yet at the same time holy spam petty arguments ahoy. Kind of feel bad for you because as i read though some of the content and seeing the people fight over grammar and typos it looks like the orignal message got lost in the bickering.

Either way your a really strong person for going though this and posting this. Thank you and I hope that saturday goes well for you and the dog.

  chrisdragon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Bestiality is foul no matter how people paint it, stick with your species. ><

  thaily
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Me. Him. Crowbar. 5 minutes.

  limecustard
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  That is pretty horrible, but I am glad that you guys reported it and that it is going to be taken care of. Best luck for the trial, I hope everything goes well!

  zacconi
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  They're gonna put that dog down? They need to knock that guy off.

  lordstingray
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I hate people that would do any thing like that to an animal...

  bigboobsmcgoo
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  KaijuQueen, despite all the (highly fucked up) drama going on, I just wanted to ask if YOU were okay? Because if I were in your shoes, I think I'd be close to having myself a nice little mental break down - to say the least, I do not take well to animal abuse. And at such a level... I feel simply sick for the dog, but seeing that first hand could not have been good for your psyche. *lots of hugs and love*

  aurathewolf
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  It's sad that in the comments here people are more concerned about this guy 'ruining' the furry reputation (Face it, it's already tarnished anyway, and it's not even important) than the fact that he ABUSED THIS DOG.

It doesn't matter if he was a fur, it doesn't matter if he was a zoophile, what matters is this guy is a sick fuck who abuses animals and it's disgusting and cruel that someone would hurt an animal so badly.

  kwolf13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Technically she never even said he was a furry. She just said he had a furry on his shirt. Which could mean he is a furry, or it could mean nothing.

  artslave
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  How could anyone do this to anyone or anything. Especially something as loving and faithful as a damned dog.
I'm sorry you had to see an animal suffering so much because of some sick ass. I can't fully vent my anger with this individual in English, there aren't enough maelefic adjectives. Suffice to say this level of cruelty is flat-out evil and despicable.

I sincerely hope you never have to see anything like that again. I also hope the dog will be taken away from that animal. I just hope it isn't too deranged at this point to be placed in a better home, assuming it recovers.

This was simply terrible news to read.

How is it that if an animal attacks a person, it gets euthanized, but when a person does THIS sort of abuse to an animal, he'll probably be let off with a fine.

  zigfried
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  That is truly sickening. Where abouts in Jersey are you?

  kaijuqueen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  central.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Can we get a little more info? What district of Jersey did this occur in? What is the name of the Groomers? When and if you get the guys name will it be posted? Why is there no new article about it?

  lonenavajowolf
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  damn that poor puppy
nothing deserves that treatment

  modgey
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  woah. so many posts here. hard to keep track of what is what. i think what this person has done is awful. but i am still trying to formulate my feelings towards bestiality as a whole (i'm rather glad it's being openly discussed, in the hopes i can learn more to develop a more rounded opinion). currently i'm looking at things different on a case by case basis. this situation clearly sounds more like flat out abuse than anything related to an over enthusiastic love for animals.

  modgey
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  oh. and well done for getting the cops involved. must have been a horrible thing to witness.

  spazzyhyena
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Wow.. I mean.. just wow.

I hate my own species even more :(

  zedragonwolf
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  As bad as that 1 particular Zoophile treated his dog I still support Zoophile's and their right to have sex with whoever or whatever turns them on the most. Because the vast majority of Zoophiles care for their pet/s/lover/s and would not do what that guy did.

-Lots of licks-

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Prepare for troll shitstorm.

  amusa-kohrl
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  As bad as that 1 particular pedophile treated his victim I still support Pedophile's and their right to have sex with whoever or whatever turns them on the most. Because the vast majority of Pedophiles care for their childrens/lovers/victims and would not do what that guy did.

-lots of groping-


  zedragonwolf
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  What's the matter Troll twit can't be original or something.

L

  amusa-kohrl
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  What's the matter Dogfucker twit can't be original or something

G

  zedragonwolf
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Stupid copy twat

  amusa-kohrl
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Stupid Doggy Twat


  acorn
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  iawtc

  kwolf13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yep, sticking your dick in your dog's vag/ass totally shows how much you care.

Because, yea all animals want to copulate/be sodomized by their owners. Wagging their tail always means yes, right?

-lots of sarcasm-

  zedragonwolf
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  No not growling at us or biting us meas "oh God yes I like that a lot"

  kwolf13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Not growling or biting does not particularly mean that the animal is okay with what you are doing. It's entirely possible, in fact likely, that it is too scared to retaliate. Growling and biting are not the only ways a dog will show that it's not happy.

No animal would be okay with being violated like that. Period. The only reason people think otherwise is because a dog cannot tell you that. And last time I checked, absence of a response does not mean "yes".

  zedragonwolf
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  How do you know that a animal doesn't like being "violated" did it tell you or something?

Because it's not like we don't see dogs humping peoples legs or trying to mount someone that has bent down to pat the dog. (Videos everywhere on YouTube)

-Lots of licks-

  kwolf13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yah, that's called them trying to assert dominance. You obviously know absolutely nothing about animals or animal behavior whatsoever.

No animal would "like" being violated in such a way. It's common sense. Though you're slowly proving to me that you lack that.

Tell me, do you partake in zoophilia yourself?

  zedragonwolf
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yes the desire is there because "normal humanity" showed me no love only hate where as dogs have been the only "things" to show me any affection. (and it is better to do it with something with a pulse the something you inflate. Right?)
But I have never acted on the desire and kept it to the realm of my dreams.

  fen-fen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  As much as I can understand how the unconditional love of an animal love is appealing, I just hope you never intend to act upon those feelings.

  kwolf13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  So dogs show kindness to you, and your first thought is that it's okay to stick your dick in one?

Gross man. No it is not better to do it with something with a pulse, because at least with an inflatable toy, you're not hurting it.

Your logic is disgusting.

  benchilla
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Did you actually read the things I said? Because I notice it's the only comment of substance you ignored. I should also point out that mixing the bodily fluids of animals and dogs leads to infections. There's really a whole slew of reasons people shouldn't have sex with their animals. I understand if people can't help but have those feelings, but people who act on those feelings are no better than other animal abusers, no matter how much they think they love their pets.

  zedragonwolf
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oh believe me when I say I will NEVER EVER act on those feelings.

  zedragonwolf
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  No other way around dude I dream of a dog sticking his dick in me

Your obsession with other people's sex lives if disturbing and revolting.

  costello
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  your obsession with dog dicks is disturbing and revolting.

  multani82
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  How's dem blacks treating ya dogfucker?

  zedragonwolf
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  If you don't like me keeping my "obsession" with Dog cock to the realm of my dreams then go the fuck away.

  zedragonwolf
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  They are in jail for aggravated assault causing injury, theft, race crime and gay hate crime.
Sexless Troll

  multani82
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  In B4 perma ban on dog fucker :D

  multani82
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Of course dog fuck of course *wink wink* I believe you.

  kwolf13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I don't have an obsession with people's sex lives. I have a disgust for people who fantasize about the sick shit you do. And I like letting people know that they're disturbing and revolting

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  joest
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  It's ironic that a dogfucking gay man wouldn't know anything about love, forgiveness and tolerance.

You give the rest of us decent, tolerant and loving gays a bad name. Hypocrite.

  captainsaicin
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Is this a troll? please tell me this is a troll.

Anybody who is actually this willfully ignorant and stupid, is JUST AS BAD AS THE PERSON THIS JOURNAL IS ABOUT.

This is exactly the sort of logic that caused this to happen to the animal in the first place.

if you're not trolling, then please kill yourself, right now, to save me the trouble of killing you myself when I find out you've made an animal suffer like that.

  zedragonwolf
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yes Amusa-Kohrl is a Obvious Troll

  amusa-kohrl
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Thank you, oh odious Master Troll.

  multani82
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Now come on, you have feel sorry for him, he was just talking about how he loves dogs. Really, he's just a victim of a society that just doesn't understand him!

  kwolf13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  SARCASM
I see what you did there.

Yah, because society should totally except a person who dreams of dog cock in their ass

  multani82
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I know right?!

  disturbiawolf
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I couldn't disagree with you anymore dude.... how the hell anyone can justify fucking a dog is beyond me.

  benchilla
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Fucking a dog is bad because it can damage it/it cannot consent.
Letting a dog fuck you is bad because it will no longer listen to you, since it will have asserted its dominance over you.
Getting a dog to suck your dick by putting peanut butter or something on it is disgusting and wrong.
Sucking your dog's dick or jacking them off is wrong because they should be neutered in the first place to avoid involuntary animal births.

People should not have sex with animals. Sorry.

  kiboe
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  all neutering does is remove the testicles....it doesn't remove their penis.

unless i read that wrong.

  benchilla
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Yes, but I can't imagine they enjoy it much without balls, unless I'm misinformed or something.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  >jacking them off is wrong because they should be neutered in the first place to avoid involuntary animal births.

Yes chopping off a dogs balls to prevent it from breeding when its humans who have overpopulated the planet is totally not as wrong as jacking off a dog.

WUT

  benchilla
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  http://www.pawsperouspets.com/tips/.....ayneuter.shtml

Humans are governed by more than instinct, just like humans are capable of consent and not dogs. And overpopulation is only an epidemic in certain parts of the world-- it's by no means a global issue.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  You can keep your ball chopping propaganda thank you very much.
The only "benifit" to doing that to an animal is the feeling of superiority over another living being.
To me there is no difference between someone beating a dog and someone chopping off its balls.
Mutilation is mutilation, no?

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Idk about you but I don't find any superiority or "FUCK YEAH, TAKE THAT" when my cats balls were chopped off.

I think you'll support neutering cats once you've had a tom hang around outside your window and piss through the screen. I feel bad for anybody who owns an unneutered male cat.

  benchilla
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I don't really think there's much more room for conversation if you're convinced this is propoganda. YES, IT IS ALL PART OF A BIGGER PLAN TO... FEEL SUPERIOR TO ANIMALS WE ALREADY FEEL SUPERIOR TO SINCE WE CAN WALK UPRIGHT AND HAVE FREE THOUGHT AND OPPOSABLE THUMBS AND

No really, what.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I've never owned a cat. I'm a dog person.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  If another country invaded the US and systematically sterilized Americans what would be the difference? That is pretty much what neutering is. "I think I have superiority over you therefore
I declare it unsafe for you to breed!" Its fucking fascism.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oh, well then you'd know about the rampant pissing that unneutered male dogs do, yes?

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Dpgs piss on fire hydrants and trees. Not in shoes and closets.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I'd like you to meet my cousins pitbull Dallas. He's unneutered and pisses all over the house.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I bet he does that because no one has trained him to go outside.

  benchilla
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Dogs are not fully aware of what they do. Humans are. The two aren't comparable. I swear, you are completely incapable of conceding a point, even when it's blindingly obvious it makes no sense. The reason anyone objects to bestiality is because dogs do not have the same mental capacity as humans, among others. You are trying to argue that they do, while also saying bestiality is bad. That doesn't make any sense. Make sense please.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  He's an adult dog, and there's a difference between peeing because he needs to and territorial peeing. Territorial peeing is shorter, more frequent and all over.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  >Dogs are not fully aware of what they do. Humans are.

Bullshit. prove it. Animals are a lot smarter than you think. Did you know Dolphins are the second smartest creatures on the planet? Animals that are smarter than humans. For serious.

>The reason anyone objects to bestiality is because dogs do not have the same mental capacity as humans,

More like "The justification that people presented when someone objects to bestiality is that dogs do not have the same mental capacity as humans," In reality they object to it because it goes against their religious beliefs aka "Its against god".






  benchilla
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  It also damages the dog, it also creates dominance issues, and exchanging those fluids with another species is a health hazard. -Dolphins- are smarter than humans, but dogs aren't. I don't even know why you're bringing up dolphins, since I didn't say we're superior to all animals (although even then Dolphin's can't accomplish a lot of the things people can). If you're not trolling right now, then god help you.

And I'm an Atheist. But good try.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I wasn't trying to insinuate that you were religious. I was stating a fact and that is society has a deep ground in hatred for anything different and this includes bestiality and ts religions fault.

  benchilla
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Except I just listed quite a number of reasons as to why bestiality isn't okay. Religion is responsible for a lot of dumb shit, but demonizing bestiality is not a dumb thing. I shouldn't even have to explain this. Auuuugh.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Okay I have one

A dog is in heat or has a false pregnancy and babies stuffed animals. Why? She thinks she may be pregnant but she isn't. She doesn't understand that sometimes dogs do that when they are in heat.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Didn't you already try this on lulz.net with all the copy pasting of various animal behavior articles that had absolutely nothing to do with bestiality? Pretty sure you did.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  False pregnancy behaviour =/= bestiality [though it can be brought on by that for sure]

Why are you avoiding this? Can you come up with a response as to why dogs behave this way even if they haven't mated? Surely, dogs can understand this stuff and be aware, correct?

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  How does thinking you're pregnant when you are not harm you in any way?
It doesn't.
Fail.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  http://www.smalldogsparadise.com/br.....lse-pregnancy/
Cmon man, please. At least do a quick google before acting like a douchebag.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  And what does this have to do with bestiality?
Oh right.
Nothing at all.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Once again, at least read the information I give you before saying things like this.
Fucking a bitch can push her into false pregnancy because of the hormonal changes in her body. Zoophiles wait until their bitch is in heat because that is when her body tells her she should reproduce and create puppies.
Zoophiles take this to their advantage and rape their dogs and to the bitch, a dick is a dick, she can't tell the difference between a dog mating her and a human raping her, so her hormones go into whack because humans cannot impregnate dogs.

Read it cmon.
Just read the whole thing or I'm dropping this argument and labeling it a lost cause and a waste of time.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Its not rape if the dog allows them to do it.
Duh.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Okay.

  chandraken
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  This whole point on animals being smarter then humans is, well.....kinda unfounded. Sure, in their native habitats their evolutions may assist their survival in an environment demonstrating say instinctual knowledge, but animal studies of cognition suggest that whilst some animals are smarter then stereotype portrays them they do not have the capacity of intelligence humans do. Things like theory of mind studies help demonstrate this point. Humans are proven to have greater foresight then animals and Erich Fromm points out that it's from this humans have a unique existence from other animals (you can read this in The Anatomy of Human Destructiveness by Erich Fromm). I know this isn't directly tying in with beastiality, but from a psychological standpoint I'd be interested in seeing your researched evidence that animals are smarter than humans.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  >I'd be interested in seeing your researched evidence that animals are smarter than humans.

I wasn't trying to say all animals are smarter than humans. I simply pointed out that dolphins are.
I was trying to say animals are just as smart (as far as being sentient) and that they aren't just mindless creatures who do everything on instinct like some furry zombie.

  chandraken
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  (Not tryin to start a fight or anything, but I'm interested in academic debates)

Could you present evidence of why you think dolphins are smarter? I'm not familiar with many studies done so it'd be interesting to learn some more.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/ne.....cle6973994.ece

  chandraken
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  The research paper that this news article was generated from does indeed support the idea that dolphins, particularly the bottle nose, are intelligent animals. However it insists they are second to humans, so they are not smarter than us. May be petty but this goes against your claims that they're smarter; they're just smart.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I think the only difference is that humans can use their appendages to create things therefore we assume it makes us smarter. In reality it only makes us more agile.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  >Comparing humans, who can plan, understand and take measures to make sure they have the financial stability, home and food to take care of another human being to that of an animal who fucks things mindlessly every season and it can't even understand why

Jesus Christ we got a mini Ebon up in here

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Animals including dogs were living on their own in the wild doing just peachy before humans came along and made them their "pets".

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Okay well you can go and chat it up with PeTA then, I'm sure you'll get along just fine.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  In other words I have a valid point.
Nice chatting with you.

  hoot
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  dogs never lived in the wild.
dogs were bred down from WOLVES who lived in the wild.
and studies show that dogs look to us when they need something. where as a wolf would be more independent, dogs look to us.

having gone to the dominican republic, where there are plenty of strays there, i can vouch that I see more starving dogs than I do thriving. and usually those thriving are pets of people who are allowed to roam around (and usually those end up poisoned for being too confident and trying to beg for food from people other than their owners)


  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  No, you don't. I brought up PeTA because they believe owning a pet is equal to slavery.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I don't think owning a animal is slavery but I don believe its wrong to sterilize them especially considering how many humans there are on the planet and the fact that we not animals are destroying the planet. Also it amazes me that no one can see how cutting off animal genitals is mutilation.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Instead of focusing on the human population, look at the population of all the stray dogs and cats.

  kiboe
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  "humans who have overpopulated the planet" and, by taking care of that problem would be a mass genocide.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Well people seem to think chopping off animals balls with stop a perceived overpopulation problem with animals so why not start chopping off humans balls? I mean clearly we are the ones with the overpopulation problem not them.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  We don't need to chop off our balls to prevent overpopulation.
Why? You ask? Because we, as humans, have the ability to think, plan, rationalize and understand what happens when you have sex unprotected.

Oh yeah, another thing
Humans have contraceptives and dogs don't
But when humans start acting like dogs and seeing a woman walking down the street, go over, smell her ass and then have mindless, unprotected sex... lemme know

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  >We don't need to chop off our balls to prevent overpopulation.
Why? You ask? Because we, as humans, have the ability to think, plan, rationalize and understand what happens when you have sex unprotected.

Ever heard of China? Or Africa? Overpopulation and rapid AIDS.

Yeah.

>Humans have contraceptives and dogs don't
But when humans start acting like dogs and seeing a woman walking down the street, go over, smell her ass and then have mindless, unprotected sex... lemme know

You know whats funny? You just toally roved my argument correct with hat one statement.
Dogs do not run around trying to screw everything in sight yet we cut off their balls "for their own sake".
Humans have several forms of contraceptives yet we keep screwing and spreading STD's.

  clayton
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Chinese people do not fuck like mindless rabbits.
In Africa, they are too poor to get into schools and learn about unprotected sex.
STDs and AIDS can be spread through nonsexual means, you know.

Yes, male dogs will go insane if they sense a female in heat.

Fuck, in my school we got little-to-no sex ed and I know more about it then you do :( and that's through teaching myself about it.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Whatever helps you sleep at night.

  clockwork
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Wrong.

  leybun
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I feel

so sick right now

oh my god

  fox-phantom
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  It is quite sad to how much torture a dog can suffer from the previous owner, I hope you get better.

  kajowwojak
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I think that this is a fine example of disproving the stereoptype that "All furries like fucking animals"

Yes, the guy had an anthro on his shirt (Unless I misread that), and he was screwing his dog over (Literally and metaphorically).

However, here we have over 900 comments by furs saying how disgusted they were by this.

Seriously, the next time I here that "furrys like fucking animals" I want them to see this, and see how disgusted we really are by it.

  hoot
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  like

  amusa-kohrl
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Bravo!

  decepticonsilent
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Agreed. <3

While I'm not a furry myself, I have many friends who are. And they're some of the nicest people you meet.

The reactions in this journal are just proof that people are people. Not stereotypes of the groups they are a part of. It is sad, however, that there are those who create these streotypes and continue to reinforce them by doing things like this though. :(

  chestnutgeld
 

(dog fuckers live in new jersey) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oh how I wish they could put him in with a pride of full grown adult lions,and tell the pervert,here do that to them,they are loose and they are wating for you,will be back for you in a week then you can tell me all the pleasures you had with them,yes a full week with the pride.That is what I would like to do to that kind,my horses are over fed and under worked,my dogs live a life of luxery,stay bu the a/c outlets in hot weather,must spend a hundred a month on treats,and heaven hel some sadast touches my pets.thanks for letting me rant and rave.

  rtdragon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  After reading this as well as certain someone supporting bestiality. I've have to say what the hell is wrong with people these days.

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  >what the hell is wrong with people these days

I was thinking the same thing when I found out it was all bullshit. See for yourself:
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2447634/


  icen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  THIS JUST IN. SCIENCE IS TOTALLY WRONG, ALL THAT STUDYING OF ANIMALS IS COMPLETELY FALSE. ANIMALS CAN TOTES UNDERSTAND COMPLEX THINGS LIKE LANGUAGE, CONSENT, MATHEMATICS, AND STUFF. SCIENTISTS WHO HAVE BEEN STUDYING ANIMALS FOR YEARS ARE TOTES WRONG. ONLY DOG-FUCKERS KNOW THIS.

</caps>

  holydust
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

 

  icen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  We should make all the dog-fuckers our new psychologists, sociologists, anthropologists, scientists of ANY KIND, animal behaviorists, lawyers, vets (and all vet-like jobs) and ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH BRAIIINZ.

<3

  holydust
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  If everything on this page is to be believed, my education failed me and I should be ashamed. I, for one, welcome our new dogmongling overlords.

  icen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  FOR SHAME.

  anero
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  rioters on the west coast, dogfuckers on the right...
shit humanity, get it together!

  bakuram
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I swear it's in the water supply. :3

  jsfreeman
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Ugh... now that ain't right...


I have a similar story that happened in my area that happened a few years ago... that outraged me... and the entire community.

  darktail67
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  :I There are no words. I seriously, HONESTLY cannot begin to organize my ideas into coherent sentences to use on this subject, so I'll start with another one: sorry for one more comment in your inbox.



Alright, now that that's out of the way, let me give it a try at stating stuff *deep breath*:

...WHAT THE FUCK.

That dude seriously has some major, MAAAAJOR issues to have abused his dog in more ways than one and then go and drop him off to be groomed - especially if he DID do it to 'discard' the poor creature. And then there's the freaking shirt, basically shouting, for anyone ignorant enough to stereotypify, 'I'm a furry!'.

DUDE. THIS IS WHY FURRIES CAN'T CATCH A BREAK. It seems like the more depraved the person, the more openly they are to the world about being a furry, and it seriously irks my nerves: it gives people the grounds to stigmatize the poor souls that really KEEP their kinks in the fantasy land just because they're part of the same group as the sick bastards.

Generally speaking, I'm not a zoophile/bestiality hater. I'm not for it, either. I simply can see the points to both sides. But when someone is capable of doing this to an animal and think they can get away with it, it's the same thing to me as a sociopath or perhaps even a psychopath: the person clearly has no feelings, and there's no middle ground for me in there. Just...no.

...I really wish there could be a way to cleanse these people from the fandom. That way the rest of us less harmful folk can lead more normal lives with less discrimination whenever we do bring the subject up. Because sadly, bringing it up at all automatically stigmatas (sp?) you as a dog-fucker even if you haven't seriously considered the thought. Blegh.

Also, I too was brought here by the chain of Journal reposting, so hurrah for being a norsy bastard, a'spose. If you feel the urge to respond to this comment, and it's Saturday or past by then, will you give me news about the dog? D: I hope it got better (or, if it was too bad, got put down without further suffering...).

  sandy-the-wolfhusky
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Poor puppy :c I would have murdered that guy for doing that!

  j0k3rn1ck
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  This is pretty much disgusting beyond belief.
Honestly, what the fuck is wrong with people these days?

Don't think I'm supporting PETA's cause, either, they're just as bad as these bestiality lovers (in a different way), but this is fucking horrible.

  silhouette
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I hope you're able to testify against him soon and I'm glad they caught him. I really wish this wasn't real but...egh. =(

  ktcopache
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Few zoophiles are anything like that sick fucker.

  paper-wings
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  That's awful

  philipjfry
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  News flash everyone. She lied
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2447634/

  mikominokijo
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  that sick bastard, people like him shouldn't own animals :( i hope that poor dog is out of his misery now

  stopfuckinganimals
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Well, Im sick to my stomach now :(

  conjure
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  Oh my f*ck. I... I really, really hate humanity

  sagegalo
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  i hope he gets raped 24/7 in prison nd his body gets even more abuse than the dog got.

  catterhatter
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  I read this mess thinking it real. Apparently it is debunked.

However, it was nice to see the response over the idea of such abuse. I certainly was pretty angry myself when first reading this, and I know people do horrible things to animals and it sickens me that anyone would hurt an animal to that extent when they should be taking care of it.

  finalmix1
 

(No Subject) Posted: 3 years ago

  ok WTF and also that sick bastard is putting more of a bad reputation for us furries D: i hope he suffers in prison.

  shiroka
 

(No Subject) Posted: 2 years ago

  Oh god... for once, I'm thankful ED directed me to some quality material.

What I find the most disturbing about this story is not how broken the dog was, but that his owner sounds almost PROUD of his accomplishments! "He's got such a tight ass", yeah, nevermind the pus-gorged anal prolapse and broken hip. The way he sounds, you'd think he was talking about a blow-up doll or something. Pro-tip: you can't fix a dog's wounds with duct tape.

I hope he got what he deserved.