In Defense Of Crappiness
18 years ago
People who know me know that I complain about movies. A _lot_. What can I say; I'm good at it! Mention Michael Bay's Transformers and I will yak your ear off for three hours or more. Easily.
Overall however, I'm actually a pretty forgiving guy. A movie doesn't have to be Citizen Kane for me to enjoy it. I try to judge films by one very simple criterion: 'What is this movie trying to achieve? What is it trying to make me feel?' If it accomplishes what it sets out to do, then I give it my seal of approval. If a horror movie scares me, or an action movie makes me get all tense and shout at the screen, or a comedy makes me spit soda all over myself, then I'm willing to overlook a hell of a lot of bad acting, bad directing, bad writing, etc.. In fact, there's quite a few movies that lots of other people hate that I personally love for being such quirky little oddballs. Here's a few, ranked by my fondness for each.
(BTW, just to be thorough, I checked all of these on RottenTomatoes.com and yes, they're all considered 'rotten'. Philistines.)
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#10: THE PURPLE PEOPLE EATER
Normally, this one would be indefensible. It's about a giant cyclopean purple thing that lands on earth and plays rock 'n roll and helps a bunch of old people pay the rent. Eeeyah. It goes on the list because I first saw it when I was too little to have any taste and I probably watched it eight times or more. So, it gets a place here for providing happy childhood memories ...Even if I wouldn't watch it now while wearing safety goggles and a radiation suit.
#9: MANOS: THE HANDS OF FATE
This is the film that all other bad movies must bow down and worship. Thank God my friend and I watched the MST3K version or we might have both died. Any movie fan should sit through this as a test of courage. A rite of passage, if you will. It really is The Most Ineptly Made Film Of All Time. Even worse than Transformers (and that's _really_ saying something).
#8: CATWOMAN
Some of you will howl in pain at the mere mention of this film. But to hell with ya; I love it. See, a lot of bad movies end up that way due to lack of creativity, lack of budget, studio interference, or the people making it just not giving a shit. Catwoman does not fit into any of these categories. It is a species of badness unique in all the world. You watch this and you begin to wonder if it was made by Elder Gods. I'd go so far as to say that the director, Pitof, is a worthy successor to Ed Wood. For starters: _PITOF_!? WTF!?!? How do you even pronounce that? Sitting through this film, with it's perfume-commercial visual style, dialogue from the black lagoon, editing obviously done by chainsaw, screamingly crappy CGI, godawful flaming 'gay friend' character, and absolutely zero connection to the comics (or Batman), I can totally picture Pitof as this pudgy, tanned, bespectacled European uber-pooftah, mincing about the set in his own little world and giving stage directions via exaggerated hand gestures while holding a feather boa. Catwoman is the bad movie from the fourth dimension.
#7: WILD WILD WEST
Gigantic steam-powered mechanical spider. Gigantic Steam-Powered Mechanical Spider. GIGANTIC STEAM-POWERED MECHANICAL SPIDER. I know it's wrong to love this movie as much as I do, but I can't help it! I get a hard-on for ludicrously implausible clockwork technology! I adore Loveless' wheelchair and his gear-brained henchmen! Plus, the film is saved from being total forgettable summer blockbuster shite by the mere fact that no one is taking this seriously and the whole cast looks like they're having fun. A happy cast can make any movie exponentially more watchable. Plus, there's that whole scene with the fake breasts, the scene with Will Smith and Kenneth Branaugh trading a slew of hilarious black/cripple jokes, and the immortal line, "That... Is a man's... *Head*."
#6: SUPER MARIO BROTHERS
Okay, smartass; YOU try coming up with a Super Mario Brothers movie that makes any more sense than this one did! People will argue forever that this film should never have been made, but I've always been a fan of movies that aren't content to merely fail; they shoot for the moon and crash in a gigantic, fiery, entertaining explosion. I mean, come on. We've got one of the best casting choices in history (Who else could be Mario but Bob Hoskins!?), huge dudes with tiny dinosaur heads who groove on elevator music, two great dumbass henchmen, mutant sci-fi-ish cars, sentient orange gookum, a giant red-spiked black woman with flying boots, Was (Not Was)'s "Walk The Dinosaur", and Dennis Fucking Hopper. When this came out, I *so* wanted them to merchandise little wind-up B-Bombs. I would've bought dozens. And even if you hate the film with a passion, you cannot deny that Yoshi was freakin' adorable and an amazingly well done special effect, considering the budget.
#5: SANTA CLAUS CONQUERS THE MARTIANS
I could defend this film for hours. If you can get beyond the premise and actually watch the film objectively, it's _nowhere_ near as bad as everyone says. The premise even makes sense if you realize this was made in the sixties and space-mania had infected *everything*. The main reason I like the film is that it's a kids' film that feels like and looks like something a kid would actually dream up. The martians, their spaceship and the eye-poppingly-fake robot all look like something some little boy would draw with crayons. The flick also gets _major_ points for having a villain who actually has some motivation, instead of just being evil because the writer was too lazy to give him any depth. The martian leader is also not merely one-dimensional; he makes both good decisions and bad, but his heart's in the right place. He wants his kids to be happy. Awww. Also, pay attention to the little earth-girl's lines. Everything she says is a masterpiece of stating the obvious. When Voldar, the villain martian, tries to blow them out the airlock, she remarks accusingly, "You don't like us!" Everything she says is like that!! Add in the most unbelievably bad polar bear suit in human history, Santa actually getting off a few pretty decent jokes (including accidentally calling one of his reindeer 'Nixon' ), some cute martian kids, a brain-destroyingly catchy themesong and an overall lighthearted grade school-play kinda vibe, and this one's actually a lot of fun if you can regress yourself to childhood enough while you watch it.
#4: TANK GIRL
The character's creators and the director herself will gladly tell you that this movie sucks. I've heard from multiple sources that the studio screwed every creative idea in this film straight up the ass. Still, the bits of crazy-ass random awesomeness that managed to make it through are enough to salvage it for me. If you go into this film realizing how much the people working on it were forced to cut and change and leave out, it's easy to sympathize with them and root for this colorful little celluloid explosion. We've got the most insane-looking tank imaginable, outfits that defy the laws of physics, giant anthropomorphic kangaroo-people (with remarkably well made animatronic faces), ripping cool fsequenced of comic panels and cartoons, Cole Porter, a device that kills people by sucking all the water out of their bodies, and, holy shit, is that Naomi Watts from "The Ring" and "King Kong" as Jet Girl!? Yes, yes it is. I thought Lori Petty was pretty much perfect as Tank Girl, several of the Rippers made my furry radar go 'boing', and Jet Girl has massive amounts of Gadget-esque-ness. So, ^__^ (If you do watch it, hop online afterwards and go to the director's website to watch clips of the stuff that was cut. Including one that makes it much clearer that Tank Girl and Booga did the horizontal bop.)
#3: LITTLE NICKY
How Could Anyone Possibly Not Like This Movie!? It's so much fucking _fun_!! It's like Adam Sandler said, 'Hey! Let's get drunk and high and have as much fun as possible making this crazy-ass cartoon of a movie about Hell!!!' There are eighty billion jaw-dropping cameos, a ton of fun characters, lots of great costumes, Popeye's Chicken, a guy with boobs on his head, a dog who shoots an arrow out of his cock, Jon Lovitz getting ass-raped by a humongous bird, Harvey Keitel's disembodied lips, Adam Sandler turning into several hundred spiders, and HITLER IN A FRENCH MAID OUTFIT GETTING A PINEAPPLE SHOVED UP HIS ASS. That scene alone should have netted this film an Academy Award. Plus, do I even need to point out that Bartleby's Descent would have never existed without this movie?
#2: TOYS
Now, I'll freely admit that this film's story is fractured as fuck and it goes on much too long. And, heck, I'm not even sure what the point of it was. But, Sweet Deep-Fried Jesus, this movie has some of the most knock-you-out-of-your-seat visuals ever put on screen. It's like a Magritte painting, FAO Schwartz and a Devo video in a blender on LSD. There is a bed that is a giant duck. There is a room that turns into a crossword puzzle. There are giant replicas of old tin toys that you will immediately wish you could run out and buy as soon as the film's over. I won't even go into the brilliant faux music video scene. Add in the fact that there's a lot of interesting characters (Alsatia is wonderful!), a ton of good character actors playing them, a fun soundtrack, and the fact that the film was obviously made with great affection, and it really, really deserves to have its faults overlooked. Turn off all your logic circuits; this is pure porn for eyeballs.
And finally, we come to the number one movie on the countdown!
#1: ONCE UPON A FOREST
This movie has a 0% rating on RottenTomatoes. I cannot effing describe the heartbreak I felt at having found that out. Actually, I *know* why it's got a rating that low; no one's ever freaking _seen_ it! Even among us furries, I'm constantly having to tell people about this sweet, fun, clever little animated movie. 'Three adorable furry kids set out on a journey to find the herbs that will make their friend well after an accident caused by humans destroys their little forest community.' I mean, I get it. People see this and immediately assume it's basically Ferngully with fuzzy woodland varmints. And in all fairness, the movie does fall prey to many of the usual kiddie cartoon movie cliches. The reason it's my number one however, is the characters. Abigail the wood mouse is *squealingly* cute, and a rare example of a smart, capable female lead in animation. Russell the hedgehog and Edgar the mole are also so darn lovable I wanna scoop 'em up and snuggle 'em. But Michelle, the little badger, really steals the show. She may be the cutest character in the history of cinema. If you can get past the unfortunate stock situations the script hurls at the three Furlings (plus the overly-long swamp bird musical number), there's a lot of genuine emotion here. The plot gets into some pretty heavy stuff for a kids' film. Plus, Michael Crawford does some fine voice acting, and even better singing, as the Furlings' wise old teacher. They even get Actual Children to play the furry kids, as opposed to hiring some squeaky-voiced adults. To top it off, the flying machine the Furlings end up building is cool enough that I wish to heck they'd merchandised this film more. I would have bought everything they made. As it is, all I have is an Abigail pencil topper that I treasure. I'd shoot my mom in the face with a bazooka for plushies of the main characters. So, in summation, if you're a furry and your soul hasn't been completely obliterated by the harshness of the internet, this movie is definitely worth a look.
Now get your ass to a video store. (:
Overall however, I'm actually a pretty forgiving guy. A movie doesn't have to be Citizen Kane for me to enjoy it. I try to judge films by one very simple criterion: 'What is this movie trying to achieve? What is it trying to make me feel?' If it accomplishes what it sets out to do, then I give it my seal of approval. If a horror movie scares me, or an action movie makes me get all tense and shout at the screen, or a comedy makes me spit soda all over myself, then I'm willing to overlook a hell of a lot of bad acting, bad directing, bad writing, etc.. In fact, there's quite a few movies that lots of other people hate that I personally love for being such quirky little oddballs. Here's a few, ranked by my fondness for each.
(BTW, just to be thorough, I checked all of these on RottenTomatoes.com and yes, they're all considered 'rotten'. Philistines.)
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#10: THE PURPLE PEOPLE EATER
Normally, this one would be indefensible. It's about a giant cyclopean purple thing that lands on earth and plays rock 'n roll and helps a bunch of old people pay the rent. Eeeyah. It goes on the list because I first saw it when I was too little to have any taste and I probably watched it eight times or more. So, it gets a place here for providing happy childhood memories ...Even if I wouldn't watch it now while wearing safety goggles and a radiation suit.
#9: MANOS: THE HANDS OF FATE
This is the film that all other bad movies must bow down and worship. Thank God my friend and I watched the MST3K version or we might have both died. Any movie fan should sit through this as a test of courage. A rite of passage, if you will. It really is The Most Ineptly Made Film Of All Time. Even worse than Transformers (and that's _really_ saying something).
#8: CATWOMAN
Some of you will howl in pain at the mere mention of this film. But to hell with ya; I love it. See, a lot of bad movies end up that way due to lack of creativity, lack of budget, studio interference, or the people making it just not giving a shit. Catwoman does not fit into any of these categories. It is a species of badness unique in all the world. You watch this and you begin to wonder if it was made by Elder Gods. I'd go so far as to say that the director, Pitof, is a worthy successor to Ed Wood. For starters: _PITOF_!? WTF!?!? How do you even pronounce that? Sitting through this film, with it's perfume-commercial visual style, dialogue from the black lagoon, editing obviously done by chainsaw, screamingly crappy CGI, godawful flaming 'gay friend' character, and absolutely zero connection to the comics (or Batman), I can totally picture Pitof as this pudgy, tanned, bespectacled European uber-pooftah, mincing about the set in his own little world and giving stage directions via exaggerated hand gestures while holding a feather boa. Catwoman is the bad movie from the fourth dimension.
#7: WILD WILD WEST
Gigantic steam-powered mechanical spider. Gigantic Steam-Powered Mechanical Spider. GIGANTIC STEAM-POWERED MECHANICAL SPIDER. I know it's wrong to love this movie as much as I do, but I can't help it! I get a hard-on for ludicrously implausible clockwork technology! I adore Loveless' wheelchair and his gear-brained henchmen! Plus, the film is saved from being total forgettable summer blockbuster shite by the mere fact that no one is taking this seriously and the whole cast looks like they're having fun. A happy cast can make any movie exponentially more watchable. Plus, there's that whole scene with the fake breasts, the scene with Will Smith and Kenneth Branaugh trading a slew of hilarious black/cripple jokes, and the immortal line, "That... Is a man's... *Head*."
#6: SUPER MARIO BROTHERS
Okay, smartass; YOU try coming up with a Super Mario Brothers movie that makes any more sense than this one did! People will argue forever that this film should never have been made, but I've always been a fan of movies that aren't content to merely fail; they shoot for the moon and crash in a gigantic, fiery, entertaining explosion. I mean, come on. We've got one of the best casting choices in history (Who else could be Mario but Bob Hoskins!?), huge dudes with tiny dinosaur heads who groove on elevator music, two great dumbass henchmen, mutant sci-fi-ish cars, sentient orange gookum, a giant red-spiked black woman with flying boots, Was (Not Was)'s "Walk The Dinosaur", and Dennis Fucking Hopper. When this came out, I *so* wanted them to merchandise little wind-up B-Bombs. I would've bought dozens. And even if you hate the film with a passion, you cannot deny that Yoshi was freakin' adorable and an amazingly well done special effect, considering the budget.
#5: SANTA CLAUS CONQUERS THE MARTIANS
I could defend this film for hours. If you can get beyond the premise and actually watch the film objectively, it's _nowhere_ near as bad as everyone says. The premise even makes sense if you realize this was made in the sixties and space-mania had infected *everything*. The main reason I like the film is that it's a kids' film that feels like and looks like something a kid would actually dream up. The martians, their spaceship and the eye-poppingly-fake robot all look like something some little boy would draw with crayons. The flick also gets _major_ points for having a villain who actually has some motivation, instead of just being evil because the writer was too lazy to give him any depth. The martian leader is also not merely one-dimensional; he makes both good decisions and bad, but his heart's in the right place. He wants his kids to be happy. Awww. Also, pay attention to the little earth-girl's lines. Everything she says is a masterpiece of stating the obvious. When Voldar, the villain martian, tries to blow them out the airlock, she remarks accusingly, "You don't like us!" Everything she says is like that!! Add in the most unbelievably bad polar bear suit in human history, Santa actually getting off a few pretty decent jokes (including accidentally calling one of his reindeer 'Nixon' ), some cute martian kids, a brain-destroyingly catchy themesong and an overall lighthearted grade school-play kinda vibe, and this one's actually a lot of fun if you can regress yourself to childhood enough while you watch it.
#4: TANK GIRL
The character's creators and the director herself will gladly tell you that this movie sucks. I've heard from multiple sources that the studio screwed every creative idea in this film straight up the ass. Still, the bits of crazy-ass random awesomeness that managed to make it through are enough to salvage it for me. If you go into this film realizing how much the people working on it were forced to cut and change and leave out, it's easy to sympathize with them and root for this colorful little celluloid explosion. We've got the most insane-looking tank imaginable, outfits that defy the laws of physics, giant anthropomorphic kangaroo-people (with remarkably well made animatronic faces), ripping cool fsequenced of comic panels and cartoons, Cole Porter, a device that kills people by sucking all the water out of their bodies, and, holy shit, is that Naomi Watts from "The Ring" and "King Kong" as Jet Girl!? Yes, yes it is. I thought Lori Petty was pretty much perfect as Tank Girl, several of the Rippers made my furry radar go 'boing', and Jet Girl has massive amounts of Gadget-esque-ness. So, ^__^ (If you do watch it, hop online afterwards and go to the director's website to watch clips of the stuff that was cut. Including one that makes it much clearer that Tank Girl and Booga did the horizontal bop.)
#3: LITTLE NICKY
How Could Anyone Possibly Not Like This Movie!? It's so much fucking _fun_!! It's like Adam Sandler said, 'Hey! Let's get drunk and high and have as much fun as possible making this crazy-ass cartoon of a movie about Hell!!!' There are eighty billion jaw-dropping cameos, a ton of fun characters, lots of great costumes, Popeye's Chicken, a guy with boobs on his head, a dog who shoots an arrow out of his cock, Jon Lovitz getting ass-raped by a humongous bird, Harvey Keitel's disembodied lips, Adam Sandler turning into several hundred spiders, and HITLER IN A FRENCH MAID OUTFIT GETTING A PINEAPPLE SHOVED UP HIS ASS. That scene alone should have netted this film an Academy Award. Plus, do I even need to point out that Bartleby's Descent would have never existed without this movie?
#2: TOYS
Now, I'll freely admit that this film's story is fractured as fuck and it goes on much too long. And, heck, I'm not even sure what the point of it was. But, Sweet Deep-Fried Jesus, this movie has some of the most knock-you-out-of-your-seat visuals ever put on screen. It's like a Magritte painting, FAO Schwartz and a Devo video in a blender on LSD. There is a bed that is a giant duck. There is a room that turns into a crossword puzzle. There are giant replicas of old tin toys that you will immediately wish you could run out and buy as soon as the film's over. I won't even go into the brilliant faux music video scene. Add in the fact that there's a lot of interesting characters (Alsatia is wonderful!), a ton of good character actors playing them, a fun soundtrack, and the fact that the film was obviously made with great affection, and it really, really deserves to have its faults overlooked. Turn off all your logic circuits; this is pure porn for eyeballs.
And finally, we come to the number one movie on the countdown!
#1: ONCE UPON A FOREST
This movie has a 0% rating on RottenTomatoes. I cannot effing describe the heartbreak I felt at having found that out. Actually, I *know* why it's got a rating that low; no one's ever freaking _seen_ it! Even among us furries, I'm constantly having to tell people about this sweet, fun, clever little animated movie. 'Three adorable furry kids set out on a journey to find the herbs that will make their friend well after an accident caused by humans destroys their little forest community.' I mean, I get it. People see this and immediately assume it's basically Ferngully with fuzzy woodland varmints. And in all fairness, the movie does fall prey to many of the usual kiddie cartoon movie cliches. The reason it's my number one however, is the characters. Abigail the wood mouse is *squealingly* cute, and a rare example of a smart, capable female lead in animation. Russell the hedgehog and Edgar the mole are also so darn lovable I wanna scoop 'em up and snuggle 'em. But Michelle, the little badger, really steals the show. She may be the cutest character in the history of cinema. If you can get past the unfortunate stock situations the script hurls at the three Furlings (plus the overly-long swamp bird musical number), there's a lot of genuine emotion here. The plot gets into some pretty heavy stuff for a kids' film. Plus, Michael Crawford does some fine voice acting, and even better singing, as the Furlings' wise old teacher. They even get Actual Children to play the furry kids, as opposed to hiring some squeaky-voiced adults. To top it off, the flying machine the Furlings end up building is cool enough that I wish to heck they'd merchandised this film more. I would have bought everything they made. As it is, all I have is an Abigail pencil topper that I treasure. I'd shoot my mom in the face with a bazooka for plushies of the main characters. So, in summation, if you're a furry and your soul hasn't been completely obliterated by the harshness of the internet, this movie is definitely worth a look.
Now get your ass to a video store. (:
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And, for the record, I thought 'Once Upon a Forest' was pretty decent.
And 'Super Mario Brothers', though it's panned as a flake, was entertaining in its own right. Not like today's "well done" video game based movies. *cough*Doom*/cough* I'll reserve comment on "Hitman" until I see it, fairness and all.
Also, good to hear from another OUAF fan. Up with Furlings!
Doom was pretty much two hours of 'Why?' for me. How the hizzity-heck do you make a Doom movie without Hell, huh? It needed lots less explanation, lots more demons, and if they could have done more with the first-person perspective, that'd have been cool. Also, they totally shoulda done The Rock up in full Hell Knight makeup. Rawk.
"Hah! I totally called the ending!" is what people love to say as they leave a theater, so they make them easy so people can feel smart. Same kinda thing with horror today.
Sad state of affairs, and sadly, games are going in the exact same direction.
And yeah, I've noticed people seem to talk a lot more about shitty flicks than good ones. Hollywood even seems to be making more and more *intentionally* bad films. Gah.
It's like Jay Sherman says: "Just Don't Go!!!"
*rimshot*
Manos is better in the non MST-3K'd version - you get to see the shit the robot heads cut out -- like the scene where the clapboard stays in scene for like 10 seconds. Or the hand. Or Mike's inability to be knocked out properly.
Santa Claus - wow, I mean... the MST3K'd version is EXCELLENT. "The kids all know 'em" - 'yeah cuz they're sober"
And Little Nicky is the most awesome film ever. I mean, c'mon. Brahead. Brahead. I'll say it again, Brahead.
RELEASE THE AWESOME. You bite it and let the meat slide down your throat! *Crunch* NOT YOU!
I may have to root out a non-MST3K version then. Assuming I suddenly develop a strong fondness for excruciating pain. ;)
And the only part of Tank Girl that makes me sad enough to complain is how they changed Booga from the comics. In the comics he's the character with the most common sence D:
And Little Nicky is the only Adam Sandler movie I can watch...
I've seen seven of these movies. And I don't regret a single one of them. Except maybe Purple People Eater.
Yeah, I heard they changed Booga a lot. I liked the one who was hitting on Jet Girl the most ...even though his name eludes me right now. Donner...?
When did you see P.P.E.? It's been so long for me, i have no reference for how bad it really is.
And you know the crazy rain lady in Tank Girl? That was originally gonna be Sub Girl, but they decided (After filming things with her as Sub Girl) that it was too confusing to have a Sub Girl in a world without water!
Cute woodland creatures making flying machines is always good :3
And yes, I knew about Sub Girl. She was even supposed to have a bigger role in the film. Check it out:
http://www.racheltalalay.com/pages/tankgirl.html
And yes, it's the one with the gas mask guys. Like I said; pretty heavy stuff for a kids' film.
I gotta.
I liked and still like Tank Girl and Mario Bros ^^
By the way. I looked a little around for "Once upon a forest" and found some clips and I faintly recall seeing it, but forgot most of it. And you're reight.. she's cute ^^.
And while I was searching I found something else cute. An old cartoon that ran on German TV 20 or so years ago, about a squirrel that was raised by a cat. ^^
I haven't found an english version of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3zO1mDsCpU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VySF.....eature=related
Also, listening to the audio makes it very clear that German is simply not a language of sweetness and softness. I'm just trying to imagine what a lullabye would sound like...
http://www.anisearch.de/index.php?p.....amp;amp;id=742
It's just strange that the title is grey squirrel whereas he is a red squirrel?
And shame on those philistenes at RottenTomatos.com for givingOnce Upon a Forest a 0% rating. I SPIT IN ZERE GENERAL DIRECTION!!!
PS: Furlings forever! :)
Actually, SMB and Tank Girl would make a really excellent double feature!
I'm trying to wrack my brain to think of other sub-par features that I totally love, but can only think of a couple.
The Elm Chanted Forest: An artist falls asleep under and enchanted elm tree and is given the power to affect reality with his paints and talk to animals. He has to battle an evil tyrant that commands living axes to chop down the forest.
Hoodwinked: For as bad as this CGI atrocity looks, some good voice characterizations really sell the humor.
Masters of the Universe: All Camp, but all Fun...plus Dolph Lundgren isn't the worst casting choice for He-Man.
Dungeons and Dragons: Big Budget B-Movie with all the camp and lunacy intact.
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow: For the Record, I blame the director's lack of experience for not getting this just right. It has everything, Gung-ho high flying fight scenes between giant robots and aeroplanes, a mysterious plan to destroy the Earth, a hot robot chick, a trek to Shangri-La, and a vintage look and feel of a film shot in the forties trying to depict the future. As much as this film bombed I still think it worked a hell of a lot better than The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
A friend of mine who is a proud cinemasochist said D&D was one of the best worst movies he'd ever seen.
And Sky Captain FUCKING ROCKED. I've watched a lot of old thirties/forties movies, and they got the look of this film perfect. I was really, really impressed. It may not have been perfect, but it showed that humans-on-CGI was possible, and it paved the way for stuff like Sin City, 300 and Casshern.
Christmas is not christmas unless I watch 2 specific movies "Miracle on 34th" (original) and "Toys". I can still hear Robin William's big pep talk to the toys in the storage room. "Muhatmah Gumbi" XD
And heck yeah Once Upon a Forest kicks serious cuteness ass The gospel song seemed a little tacked on, but it still had my eyes glued to the screen. I can't believe I haven't drawn anything for it yet. I must.
I'd like to add the cartoon Tom Sawyer up for evaluation. It was a pretty cute piece of furry animation in its own right. I even think the Soundtrack worked for it.
Hm. Maybe I'll watch Toys again on Christmas too.
I think the gospel song was probably just so they could cram Ben Vereen into the credits and say, "Hey, look! Another star! C'mon, go see it! Please? Please!?"
I have not seen furry Tom Sawyer, but I want to. Bad. I got a hard-on from the box art alone! ;)
Holy crap that was a crazy flashback. I don't even hardly remember what the movie was about, or how any of it went, but when you mentioned the flying thingy I totally had this image in my head of an adorable hedgehog and a flying machine that totally matched the image I just saw on the IMDB. Holy shit I have to watch this again!
Transformers, on the other hand, is a horrible movie that should have been good, and easily could have been. It's just wasted potential and special effects that are only interesting on a big screen, plus an insane amount of masturbation and piss jokes that really aren't that funny.
Honestly, if you're going to make a bad movie, you have to go balls-to-the-walls and really fail. If you kinda fail, you make a movie that thinks it's good, but is really boring and stupid. If you epically fail, it's like rolling a one in D&D; yeah, you fucked up, but you made the most elaborate and entertaining fuck-up possible.
And yeah, if you ever watch Little Nicky or read Bartleby's Descent again, think about the similarities between the two. There were some that even *I* hadn't noticed at first!
OUAF is freaking LOVE!
... reminds me, I still haven't seen Little Nicky. I'll have to go rent it.
Oh, three things... one, I'm considering writing a Bartleby's Descent drabble, if you don't mind. (just a bit of silliness involving Jesus, Beelzebub, Bartleby and Razielphustar playing Hell Monopoly ['Do not pass go, do not collect 200 souls, go straight to The City of Dis'])
two, I'm working my way (slowly) through a Dangerous Lunatics drabble revolving around Always-Jimmy-Never-James and my own contribution to the small army of cubs. (and speaking of DL, how goes the creating of the website?)
three, have you ever considering posting your CrissCross stuff here on FA? you'd probably acquire a whole new horde of fans.
Two; The website was never really all that likely in the first place. no one showed much interest in creating it, so it never got off the ground.
Three; I *have* considered that. In fact, I've considered creating a separate FA userpage for my RR fics, since the rest of my gallery's fairly chronologically ordered.
two: Drat-eth... I know there's a few folks out there that would be happy to do a website... for a fee... ... in fact, I could talk to a dear friend of mine, see if he's interested...
three: Yay! Crisscross deserves some more love... and the insanity that is Widget can be known to all once more... and the Foxglove/Dale snugglings can begin anew as well!
Three: Actually, that raises some questions... A Lot of my CDRR fanfics make heavy references to other fanfics by other writers. I suppose I could post links to them.
I know someone who claims they lost part of their soul watching Manos. They did NOT watch the MST3K version. Luckily I did.
At Dragon*Con in 2006, there was a guy dressed up as The Master. He was awesome.
I remember now, I did take a picture of him: http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/.....t=P1000680.jpg
*hand over mouth* MMMMMMMMRRRRFFF!!!!!
A gamer for life, I am.
Little Nicky, I saw with my aunt (one of the coolest human beings on the planet and she thinks my fursona is awesome, too!), and while she may have felt bad about taking me to a movie so horribly "Arr"-rated, she still laughed with me.
Catwoman, I saw with my mother (a total cat-lover and, I am fairly certain of it, a closet furry). We both thought it was horrible but in a funny, "Holy god, we just sat through THIS piece of eyeball garbage?" kind of way.
WWW, yeah. Bad, but since the movie, nor the actors, nor the writers, nor the directors seem to take themselves seriously, the movie just comes off fun to watch. The theme is also catchy, even if it is Will Smith qitzch *sp?*.
PPE, I saw once as a kid. Loved it, drove my family nuts singing the theme of it for three days straight. And like you and Tristan in an earlier post, saw it on Disney. I, too, remember the "good" disney channel. Y'know, where they showed other movies like "Short Circuit" and "Animalypics".
Toys, I watched only bits and pieces of, but yeah, the MTV thing was pretty nifty. I need to watch it sometime.
Now then, to admit it freely to all present: I have not seen Once Upon A Forest.
I know, I fail spectacularly at life. BUT! I do have an amusing story to tell relating to it. While on a roadtrip to see a concert with my college professor and three other trombone players, we stopped at a Barnes and Noble to get a CD to listen to. My prof, Mr. Sloan, bought about 14 cds and took them all out to the car. While we were waiting outside the theater, he began unwrapping them and looking at the inside. Amongst the collection was the OST to OUAF. I was amazed. Ole' Sloanzie was in his early sixties and here was a soundtrack from a kids movie? I inquired about it and he merely stated: "The musical score was really good, even with a fair bit of cheese in it." A few weeks later he had bought the movie and told me to watch it. I now curse myself for not doing so.
Please, feel free to point and laugh at the obvious loser here. ;)
Your aunt sounds cool.
I just watched WWW yesterday and realized I love it so much I really should move it up the list a place or two. I have never seen a movie that combines such astonishing amounts of stupidity and cleverness. Plus, if you can view the entire thing as a gigantic live-action Wile E. Coyote cartoon, then it becomes much more palatable.
"Short Circuit" was fucking THE BOMB. I watched it, and the sequel, a billion zillion times as a kid. I wanted a Johnny 5 action figure *so* bad. In fact, I even built him outta Legos once.
Yes, watch Toys. Watch it many, many times. ;)
2)Yes. Yes, she is. She used to let me and my sister hang with her on weekends and would feed my gamer-ness by giving me, oh say, $50 and take me to an arcade (y'know, when those used to exist) and let me go wild. She kicks major league ass.
3)Personally, the best SOUND in the game has to be when James West kicks that iron-brained guy between the legs an dyou hear this mettalic ball-bearing *clickety-click* sound. Makes me bust a gut every time.
4)Such great movies, and woefully unappreciated by the public. In fact, I have them on DVD and watch them every now and again. Isn't modern technology wonderful?
5)Yeeesssss, masster. I willll, massster...
*GUNG-GUNG-GUNG-GUNG-GUNG-GUNG-*!!!!!
And me being a speedphreak, I love that podracing sequence. Just all kinds of speedy goodness in there.
Now Episode III, however. That, my boy, stacks right up there as a monument for self-glorification that only Michael Bay could adore. Dude, I firmly believe that YOU could've done the script a lot more justice, even IF you don't like Star Wars.
Anyone besides George Lucas could...
Of course, I only saw the film once. Like Transformers, it may require a second veiwing to view it objectively...
I have all the DVDs & merchandising of these movies known to man, I want to build my own Flapper-Wing-A-Ma-Thing one day, & (IMO) Malcolm McDowell's character is the best of all in "Tank Girl"!
*is a HUGE MMcD fan to the point of fanaticism... ^_^ *
Do you have OUAF plush?
I've seen Little Nicky. Everything else mentioned are things I want to see. 'cept Wild Wild West. Just not my type of movie. I love comedies but I've seen commercials for it and it just didn't seem that much of a must-see.
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I want to hurt myself now. Bad. You were right; that had to be one of the most EXCRUCIATINGLY horrible movies I have ever seen. And I have seen some whoppers! Holy cow!: Bad acting, worse film editing, beaten-stupid-with-a-shovel storyline, Torgo...the list could go on forever!
However:
1) Lovers in an overly showy car that kissed for days straight = WTF?
2) Cops who really didn't do anything coppish except sit on their thumbs and probably masturbate = More WTF?
3) Torgo = WTF? x 10
4) "Meanwhile, Elliot Ness and the Untouchables go to a speakeasy in Berlin!" = FTW!!!
Also, while it may not make your list, I will say this: While Transformers was a three-time view for me to see it as being bad, "Eragon" was a one-time autohate for me. Man, I just...hugrh...awfulness.
<Kara gets out the flogging stick> Oh, Mr. Reynaaaaard? I have something to shoooow yoooouuu!!
Didja notice the scene where the clapboard stays in shot for a few seconds?
I have heard _bad_ things about Eragon. I mean, it was written by a fifteen-year-old and steals liberally from LOTR and Star Wars. Come on!! Who would actually not know exactly what they're in for?
<waves behiney at Kara> O RLY?
If you've got a torrent program, you should be able to download it.