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I think eating raw eggs is fine [although kinda gross if it's JUST raw eggs]

and I loooove eating cake batter

i think it all really depends on were you get the eggs and how they have been keeped in storage . ive eaten raw cookie dough and cake batter meny times before and nothing bad has happend but :P i dont recomend people to go out and eat raw eggs.. i know if i got them from my friend fresh from his farm that ide eat them cause i know they would be ok but from the store its hard to say what has happend to them since they were layed then to the time you get them in your fridge .. i say each to there own and if you want to risk it go ahead :P

Never had a problem with raw eggs and if really worried people can buy pasteurized eggs.

Dont get me started on the whole pasturized / non-pasturized milk thing!

I personally don't have any problem with it. The only time I've ever gotten sick from an egg was from a hard-boiled egg, so...

But anyway, this reminds me that the other day was the first time I cracked open and egg that had blood in it. Freaked me out, lol.

Tasted perfectly fine though, and I'm not dead. :P

I support this, you really won't get salmonella if you just
wash the damn egg

kinda like leptospirosis and pop cans/food tins

I have no issue with cake batter and when the raw eggs are eaten pretty quickly after being cracked open.

However, in situations where the eggs have been sitting out for a while or have been exposed to a lot (like some cookie doughs which have to sit overnight or any restaurant food) I, personally, wouldn't go near it.

I know of a lot of kids who can't eat cake batter due to the eggs, I don't mind risking it.

Researching around a bit says that the risk is very, very low either way. Best to avoid it with small children, the elderly, and immune deficient, but the risk is said to be pretty low, and they sell pasteurized eggs in some places.

A quick read I found, not sure how valid it is.
http://www.pastrywiz.com/storage/eggs.htm

The FDA says it's something like 1-3 in 40,000 eggs may have it, to quote a food network show, but I have seen the official stat before, I'm just too lazy to dig. I probably run a higher risk of getting myself sick from my pet bird.

Oh good that's pretty much how I thought about it, that yeah it's a risk, but it's not like every egg has it. Kind of like "if you go out in the rain you MIGHT just get struck by lightning." The risk is always there, even if its small.

I could not have said it better.

If it were such a risk, I would be overflowing with salmonella since I got to lick the mixing bowl clean all the time as a kid, and a cake was pretty much tradition every first Sunday with my mother.

Eating raw eggs is fine and dandy if they come from a good supplier. Salmonella comes from the chicken's poop, and in a coop with thousands of chickens, the poop get's into everything from the water they drink to the feed and everywhere in between.

You just gotta know where it's coming from. Or just play the game and take your chances :) They say only 1/1000 eggs has the potential to get you sick.

Fresh eggs (like.. not cleaned or at the store yet) have a natural barrier that keeps most germs away from it, to protect the chick. When you wash an egg and 'clean it' .. it actually strips it of that protective layer that it naturally is laid with.. which makes it more susceptible to contamination of salmonella or other nasty things.

Which is why I have no qualms with licking the batter off my spoon when actual farm fresh, unwashed eggs have been used. And if you think unwashed eggs are nasty.. you aren't eating the shell, you eat the inside, so you aren't ingesting anything nasty. <3

pretty much the only danger with raw eggs is the threat of salmonella, which only resides in the yolk. All this is is public opinion influencing individual opinion. Yea there is a risk of contracting salmonella but its small. Lots of foods have risks, but a lot of them are minute. What I tell people is, if you're that worried about it, used pasteurized eggs.

Perhaps raw batter isn't as bad because typically(unless you're making a big cake/batch of cookies/ect)there isn't a lot of egg? Only a spoonful or two is said to be fine, from what has heard. I've eaten whole raw eggs though, so I'm not sure about salmonella. I think the source can start the problem, dirty, unhealthy conditions seem to cause more outbreaks of illness from it, organic, cage free/free range are less.

Honestly I kind of have an Ostrich-head-in-the-sand mentality when it comes to problems from raw eggs: if I don't see it it isn't there. I don't tempt fate and drink raw egg yolks ala Rocky, but I'm not going to freak out if my eggs are runny (I love them that way) and you just try and keep me away from cake batter. There is a risk, yes, but you don't actually hear of a lot of cases. I guess it's kind of like how the threat of car accidents don't necessarily keep people from speeding.

Some bodybuilders drink raw eggs, so I don't see the problem.

Well, I live in California, and people have a stick up their butt about everything. But I've asked this on Yahoo Answers and people from all across the US (and the globe) have said not to eat raw eggs.
A few people have said that with bodybuilders, they eat a lot of vitamins and their systems are powerful enough to "fend it off", but I think that's a load of crap.

I live in Cali, and I don't care much for what the general public has to say.

If they're not licensed to answer a medical question why care.

I know, I was just curious why people don't differentiate the dangers between cake batter and raw eggs.
Thanks for your input

I've licked batter of spoons, spatulas, beaters, and straight from the bowl my whole life and I'm still healthy as ever. Raw eggs do also give protien and plenty of people will drink raw eggs straight from glasses for that crude protien.

I know some people will say that it's also bad to eat raw cookie dough due to the eggs, however a trick I learned many years ago from my mom for cookie dough is that you can replace an egg with a tablespoon of plain white vinegar. Many people whom I've told this to think it's disgusting, but the cookies taste the same both cooked and in dough form. If you are scared of salmonella and other things from the raw eggs, replacing the eggs with vinegar takes away any chances of those scares, it also can help if you have a friend or family member who won't eat anything with eggs.

Oh yes, I love eating batter like that (and my sister's homemade whip cream <3) and nothing has ever gone wrong with me. I've also swallowed a raw egg whole, a store bought one from um...Lucerne or something, and never got even vaguely sick.
But I did get food poisoning from Jack in the Box. Go figure!

That's very good information, that's going in my recipe book XD

Yeah, I've eaten raw egg and no problems, I get food poisoning from McDonalds twice though when I ate there.

It is good information, I have no idea where she learned it from, but I believe she taught me it when we had no eggs and were making cookies when I was like five years old. Comes in handy, I'll have to test it in cakes sometime.

Actually, in most of the batter-based recipes I see, the people go "Salmonella, Shmallmonella! Lick that mixing spoon like it's a lollipop!"

Oh that's awesome! Sadly I have never seen this, I envy you D=

Like others have said, salmonella is literally just from chicken poop, and the eggs not being washed properly. Egg with poop on it gets broken on the edge of the bowl, or bits of the poop-contaminated shell gets into the actual egg white/yolk, and then is contaminated. I don't think actual egg white/egg yolk has ever had salmonella in it naturally. If people are very nervous about it, all they have to do is disinfect the egg before cracking it. Someone mentioned getting sick from a hard boiled egg- that's because the infected feces was dissipated into the water and then they consumed it from the now-salmonella-pickled egg.

Wash your eggs, guys, and eat all the raw eggs you want.

Instead of listening to "foodies" you should listen to FDA warnings instead. Just because the general population thinks it's okay to consume raw eggs in the form of batter or dough, dosn't mean it's healthy. Most things like pre-packaged cake batters and cookie dough have a warning right on the packaging that pretty much says "do not consume raw."

However, I will give my oppinion on the matter. I'm a Pastry and Bakery Management Major, and I've had to study salmonela and raw eggs and whatnot. Your body already harbors salmonela bacterium. It is naturally preasent in ALL cold and warm blooded animals, including humans. So you have salmonella bacterium in your body, right now. However, the amount of salmonela bacterium in your body is pretty much neglegable. It's when MORE of the bacterium is ingested that you can become sick. The FDA suggest not consuming raw eggs for the same reason you shouldn't consume raw or undercooked meat, because you COULD get sick. You won't always get sick, but there is still a chance you COULD. It's just a generally good rule not to consume raw eggs.

However, as a pastry major, it's pretty much critical to tase a batter or cookie dough before you bake it, to assure you didn't fuck up. If you were to lick a spoon that was covered in brownie batter, you are only consuming a very small amount of egg. If there's only 2 eggs in a batter (1 egg is about .75 ounces), and you could consume a tespoon full or so of the finished batter which has a final weight of about 12-16 ounces, youre eating mostly sugar, flour, and the other ingredients, and NOT a whole lot of egg, in compairison. The amount of egg you consume from licking a spoon or a spatual is pretty much neglegable. If you were to eat the ENTIRE BOWL of batter raw, then you may have a problem. The amount of salmonella bacterium in 1, entire raw egg, and a teaspoon of batter made with 1 raw egg is considerably different.

If I had a box of cake batter I'd totally look but sadly..XD
I've never honestly seen that before though, and I've read an entire box (barcode and all) twice in one sitting for fun to see if I can finish reading the whole thing in the last 5 minutes of the cake cooking.

Well that's kind of stupid. You can technically get sick from anything. But I'm assuming they mean raw meats and such have a higher chance of getting you sick?

Yeah, but some people at a lot more than that. A lot of people regularly enjoy eating an entire bowl of cookie dough. But the same people don't condone eating raw eggs. It confuses me.

It's mostly on things like cookie doughs that already HAVE the raw egg, not so much on boxes where you have to add your own eggs.

I say whatever. Eat all the raw eggs you want in what ever form you want. Salmonella is treatable.

I've never cared about raw eggs. My mom used to let us lick the beaters when she made cookies and cakes all the time, saying "I really shouldn't let you eat this, there's raw eggs in it..." And I've never, ever gotten sick from it, nor has anyone else I know...so why should I care about raw eggs?

My mom is awesome. She'd just be like "here, eat this" XD
She knew full well what was in it, but didn't care, because we're extremely healthy kids. She's even let me eat a strip of raw beef (washed of course, it was marinading overnight and I ate it in the morning while making homemade beef jerky)

this is as simple as it is stupid. Fear Sells
Fear makes you buy all kinds of shit to Kill bacteria and keep yourself and your loved one safe. even as emerging research shows that lack of exposure to various bacterias are making more and more people grow up with autoimmune diseases such as Asthma
http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/03/.....rms/index.html
you see warnings everyone on everything making you afraid of everything. sushi bars have to put up signs about undercooked or raw fish. Diners have to put up crap screaming about undercooked eggs. yet people eat this kind of stuff all the damn time. 90% of the most recent salmonella and E-coli outbreaks anymore all come from raw veggies anymore. you almost never hear about people getting sick from sushi or sashimi or as i call them Dippy eggs. (where the yolk is runny and you use delicious toast to stab at it and suck it up!)

Almost all new media and advertisements scream this crap from the tallest buildings for ratings and to get you to buy the latest gadget to make yourself clean. Like this
http://www.amazon.com/Liquid-Motion...../dp/B002CSRMMC
this is the single most retarded thing of late. You do not want to touch the dispenser of soap and get others contaminated!!!!!!!! yeah except the only reason to even TOUCH THE THING IS TO GET THE SOAP OUT OF IT TO IMMEDIATELY USE IT TO CLEAN YOUR HANDS. it is not like you are rubbing you face on the handle of it for fun. the only reason to touch it is to press it down to get the soap that you will be Immediately using to clean the hand that touched the frikken dispenser as it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and unfortunately we here in america are an easily led stupid folk as is obvious by everyone forgetting basic 5th grade biology. unless you kill 100% of a population of bacterium or germs that last bit will bred resistant strains giving it's resistance to the next generations making it worse.

honestly this topic makes me want to scream all day long. They keep finding more and more beneficial bacteria that one needs growing up and others that are needed all the time that we keep isolating ourselves from. it is as bad as the frikken biodome screw up when they sterilized the soil and wondered why the carbon cycle was screwed...

My mother was born in the heart of the South, Georgia, and by god if you don't see her eating runny eggs and toast and enjoying the shit out of it. She grew up with that. She let us grow up with it too (I don't like the taste of eggs by themselves so I didn't eat it XD)


I dunno, that's cool. I'd get one just so I could giggle when it dispensed. Oh I'd just love one that makes a beepy noise when it dispenses too. I'd be washing my hands more than a Germophobe XD
I get what you're saying though. It's pathetic. I don't wash my hands after I go to the bathroom, nobody in my house does. I hold my pet rat and don't wash my hands. I hold our cats and don't wash my hands. I let my cats eat out of the same bowl I do.

Heh My cat and i used to share most of our meals. i would put her food on one side of the plate and mine on the other and we would sit and watch TV and eat. (i used to make her special food for the longest time)

Yeah my big one is eating stuff right out of the garden with no washing it off. brushing off the big dirt or something yes. but past that NOM NOM NOM

Aaw XD Our cat Lynx used to eat chinese food. He was an outdoor cat.

It's actually a matter of time. Fresh out of the refrigerator, the egg is not going to have much in the way of salmonella. Even if it is contaminated, it is safe because your immune system can handle a couple stray germs. Put that egg in a cake batter and this is still the case. If, however, you leave it standing at room temperature for a few hours, THEN it becomes a problem. The bacteria starts to rapidly multiply, etc. That is the actual issue.

My husband comes from a family of chicken-owning, and he used to just put the eggs on the counter (about which I freaked out royally). But eggs don't actually need to be refrigerated! Unless you are not going to use them in, say, a day or two. (Speaking from regular, unpasteurized eggs.) It doesn't matter to me--my eggs go in the fridge. I apparently stick more in the fridge than I need to, but better safe than sorry! (Especially since we lost power. Our fridge was gross. You don't even wanna know.)

I've always licked spatula's and ate cookie dough. Never once got sick from it, so I don't really see the harm in it for the average person.
But I kinda think it would be risker for people who have impaired immune systems.. Because they really have very little defense against bacteria that stuff like raw egg's and the likes would carry.

Anytime you put something in your mouth, it doesn't matter how much it's been cooked, you are running the risk of putting something bad into your body that could hurt you. People have gotten paranoid, to the point of ruining a good cut of meat by cooking the f*ck out of it.

I don't personally like runny eggs (or cake batter, cookie batter, etc), due to a texture issue. There are plenty of recipes that include raw eggs though (a sauce for asparagus, for example... you know the one!) and people eat them all the time without issue. My grrlfriend eats her eggs over easy and sops up the yolk with toast.

What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger!

I used to eat the strips of washed, marinaded beef while I was putting them on our food dehydrator while making jerky. XP
The only thing I cook the fuck out of is stuff I don't like undercooked or normally cooked. Like bacon. Or pork, or chicken.


Hey, think of Immunization shots. It's pretty much just a shot of a little bit of the actual virus, and your body fights it off and figures out how, so if you end up catching it your body can be like EAT THIS.
It's awesome.

I don't like eggs in general by themselves. But I make a mean french toast.

yeah a steak can be rare but ground beef.. yeah i am going to cook the hell out of it. or at least pop it in the oven til it hits safe temps and then grill it for flavour. it is one of the few meats i never trust.

In any case, it should be fine. Besides, salmonella isn't lethal, you'll just be a little under the weather for a bit.

Go ahead and guzzle those raw eggs! They're good for ya!

I think like a lot of people already said, its often due to either not fresh/bad supplier eggs, which probebly correlates urban stuck up ness about them! XD Though my parents were never "eat this raw egg, its safe!" we used to have bassically half raw omelettes, ultra soft egg and soldiers, and no to mention ate half the cake batter from a batch...mmm..num num...

Though this may be due to my mother coming from the continent as opposed to the UK, where this would generally be frowned upon now!

The salmonella comes from the possibility of the edible part of the egg coming in contact with the unclean outer shell. I'm fine with undercooked eggs, but only if I'm the one preparing it, or a place that normally serves it.

Here's the easy answer... I don't eat a raw eggs whole... but if it's mixed in with several other ingredients, such as with batter, it's much less likely you'll catch whatever it might have because what you're eating is many other things with a teeny bit of egg in it. As long as you're not eating ALL the batter, and not just a taste. xD

Fuck that, I consider myself a foodie, and I'll happily lick the batter knowing there is a raw egg in it, and I saw a recipe for homemade mayo and i'm gonna make it one day, and yes it has raw eggs! They must not be foodies... tho I'm not a stuck up foodie, just a try everything foodie... hehe.
I loveeeeee liquid yolk.
I know that there is a point non bacteria wise to not eating raw egg. or at least the white.
Eating undercooked white can steal vitamins from the body, but its better to eat the yolk undercooked... you get more vitamins from it. so solid white and liquid yolk... yum!
Hmmm... I'm not a health fanatic though. For example, I'll follow the 5 second rule if there is no hair on said 5 seconded food. oddly hair is my line, not the fact it could have picked up lots of bacteria XD.


Oh.. and I was born in Cali. haha! Don't live there now though

I think that if you do eat cake batter, cookie dough, or anything with raw or undercooked eggs in it, yes you run the risk of getting ill, but if you have eaten batter or undercooked eggs fairly regularly, your immune system will be stronger for it. If you keep exposing yourself to small amounts of potentially dangerous bacteria, then you'll eventually build up an immunity to it.

At least that's the reasoning that my mom gave to my dad when telling him why we were eating cookie dough.

As with a lot of things, sure you run the risk of getting something (salmonella, in this case) but with the availability of pasteurized eggs I don't see this as nearly as a large a concern as people have made out. But I still buy standard eggs -or get fresh eggs whenever possible, that is, when a friend or relative is raising chickens and offers eggs.

My mother always gets on to us for eating raw eggs (in batter, etc.), to which I point out "and how often did you do so when younger? And how often did you get sick?" The odds are that you will not get sick. While there is, of course, a small chance, it is not a very high likelihood. So, take your options in hand and decide if you are willing to take that small chance of getting salmonella.

Personally I don't like fully cooked eggs, and I am certainly not averse to eating them raw - whatever the risk involved. All a matter of personal opinion and taste, if you ask me.

The only time I ever worry at all about raw eggs is when doing an egg-white wash for candying flowers or some such. And in that case, I just use powdered, and add water to reconstitute. But I also bake commercially.

I believe the salmonella and ecoli scares came from rare, isolated incidents and shouldn't cause any level of paranoia regarding raw egg foods. I've eaten small amounts of cake and brownie batter, not to mention cookie dough, and have never gotten sick from it.
However, I don't eat any meat that isn't thoroughly cooked, but that's because I don't like the sight of blood or biting into something that tastes bloody. I also won't eat scrambled eggs or an omelet that looks raw, simply because raw egg by itself also sorta tastes like blood.

My only say on the matter is something I used to hear in Spanish all the time as a kid:

Lo que no me mata, me engorda. "What doesn't kill me, makes me fat."

I'd lick the batter off a spoon, sure. It allows me to check the flavor of the batter before I pan it. Would I eat a whole bowl of cake batter? No, it'd give me a stomach ache, and that worries me more than a lil' salmonella.

And here's something I learned in Sanitation class: 1 out of every 15 eggs carries salmonella. Not outside the egg, inside it. Pasteurized eggs is the only safe way to bake, if it worries you, but most of it is cooked out when you bake things off. The more you know! =D

I've eaten raw eggs in things since I was a small child. In particular my grandmother made me "egg flips" which was milk, an egg, some vanilla and a bit of sugar, to go with my breakfast. I still take my eggs "sunny side up" [where you only fry the egg on one side and leave the yolk very runny] because YUM and... yeah. I guess the eggs I use are of sufficient freshness. I would prefer to have my own chickens, for a number of reasons, one of which is freshness. I just imagine the eggs being so much better!

I love to eat cookie dough and cake batter, least when I make it myself (Or from box mixes where I add my own egg.) I trust the eggs I get to be in good condition.

The chances of Salmonella being in an egg are actually very low, like 1 in 40,000 contains dangerous amounts of salmonella (Or something around that number), and even then you are only ingesting a very small amount of that egg in tasting the batter. Unless you have an immune deficiency or the egg has been improperly stored at some point down the line the likely hood of it happening is pretty slim.

If in doubt though, Buy pasteurized eggs. You can buy pasteurized eggs at most megamarts nowadays which eliminates the chance of salmonella nearly all together. That's probably the best compromise if you want to mix your batter, be sure it's safe, and eat your raw egg too!

I'll happily eat my tastes with raw egg, and enjoy my sunny side up eggs, have been doing so for much of my life without any ill effects from it so far. ::Knocks on wood, just incase!::

I believe the official statistic was if you ate one store-bought egg raw every day of your life, you have a chance of catching salmonella once in 88 years. Eggs have an anti-bacterial layer on the outside of the shell that prevents bacteria from affecting the inside of the egg. And since most eggs are pasteurized before hitting markets, the chances of contracting a disease from raw egg is even slimmer.

Granted, if you're eggs are somewhat older and less fresh, I wouldn't risk it.

It is a law of nature that cookie dough is overall better than the cookies that it produces (with a margin of error allowing for fresh cookies within 15 minutes out of the oven) and I have yet to have any egg give me some form of illness. I simply understand the risks and take care to wash the egg off.

A spoonful of dirt a day is what the kiddies need. Build up that immune system! ;)

there is also the fact that the surger will kill some bactire it self cause it cahnges the PH leave in the foods. thats why u dont see moldy suger.

my mom always told me I would get worms but I ate raw batter biscuit dough etc anyways never been sick from it.

something like 1 in 1,000 eggs might have salmonella and it is mostly even that high because of the
disgusting conditions the chickens live in because of mass production I would rather have chickens and get my eggs from there really but my sister in-law to be has chickens I try to get my eggs from her but can't always do so
but I will never worry about eating raw egg because I wasn't raised in a sterile enviorment like kids are now days so I actually HAVE an immune-system.

YES.
I spent the first 6 months of my life in the car, 3 months of that was in the car in the Wyoming mountains.
I loved every minute.
I also love my immune system.

I seriously doubt eggs have worms in them. Or raw pork. I mean, for you to get worms they'd have to be in the product itself and that would mean the meat is unhealthy and infested with parasites. So why the hell would companies be selling this to eat?

she just said that to gross me out to get me to stop eating it she wasn't serious
mostly because if it was angel food cake especially I would eat half the batter if I wasn't told to stop.