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12/01/2014 Site Status and Community Updates
Donation Button Voting Results!    

By Fender, 7 years ago
Well, we had a much higher turnout than we anticipated for this lil' contest, and some great results! First off, I'd like to thank everybody who took the time to send in a submission -- every banner, used or not, really does help FA remain open and free for the long term! In the end, it's all about helping out our lil' community, and you've all done a fine job!

We've come along way, and thanks to all your help, are ensuring we have a longer, brighter future ahead of us. One with a search engine. And cake.

You've all earned this Ferrox's love. <3

Top three:
ediskrad  ediskrad 229
frogsbreath  frogsbreath 126
endenden  endenden 125 (for enden_ad1.png)

As per the original journal, another two will be voted and added up by the staff!

Full voting count:
Abscartoon18_ad: 46
AcidaPluvia_ad1: 10
AcidaPluvia_ad2: 1
AnonIhmus_ad: 32
Blackfolf1216_ad: 2
buckywhitetale13_ad: 6
defuret_ad2: 9
ediskrad_ad: 229
enden_ad: 125
enden_ad2: 102
frogsbreath_ad: 126
JasonMiller_ad: 75
kaku_ad: 1
KaleShadowWalker_ad: 7
kaput_ad: 24
kouta-kun_ad: 44
mot_ad: 56
NeoWyverdramon_2: 36
OOsarovakOO_ad: 15
Pandacracy_ad: 3
portzebie_ad: 50
pyurio_ad: 7
rhari_ad: 10
sakurablossom_fa: 3
scottmale24_ad: 65
sonderjen_ad: 92
SoreThumb_ad: 7
stormdragonblue_ad: 25
thegreymirror_ad: 15
topdog_ad: 12
winewulf_ad: 12

Total votes counted: 1247
186 comments

User replies

  chicago-lollie
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  ...BUT.

SONDERJEN.

WHY.

  roudyraccoon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  =O

  vinvulpis
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Of course that one won..... damn furries c.c still funny though

  dragoneer
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Humor generally wins in situations like this, and... well, Edis captured that. =P

  offthewall234
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  WOOHOO! I knew it!

  judgement
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Damn... I wanted Sonderjen to win. xD

  goat
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  SON DER JEN



SON DER JEN



SON DER JEN

  horndawg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  SON DER JEN



SON DER JEN



SON DER JEN

  frenzee
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  SON DER JEN



SON DER JEN



SON DER JEN


  lyenuv
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  SON DER JEN



SON DER JEN



SON DER JEN

  herrwolff
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  SON DER JEN



SON DER JEN



SON DER JEN




in b4 SON DER JEW

  soundhound
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  SON DER JEN



SON DER JEN



SON DER JEN


  knox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  E DIS KRAD




E DIS KRAD




E DIS KRAD



C: end

  soundhound
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  YOURE DOING IT WRONG

  sonderjen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER

  agouti-rex
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  WE LIKE ROY

WE LIKE ROY

  seregei
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  You Broke The Page!

  ritts
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  SON DER JEN



SON DER JEN



SON DER JEN

  amtrack88
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  SON DER JEN



SON DER JEN



SON DER JEN


  kipper
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  SSSPPAAARRRTTTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  twitchdawoof
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  SON DER JEN



SON DER JEN



SON DER JEN


  edge
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  SON DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

  twitchdawoof
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  This isn't FA, THIS IS SONDERJEEEEEEEEEEN!!!!

  vickbunneh
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  This comment made me laugh so much ! You didn't win the lil contest but you definately win the Internet X3

  89jessica
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  SON DER JEN


SON DER JEN


SON DER JEN

  moonshadow
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  EX TER MINATE!
EX TER MINATE!
EX TER MINATE!

....sorry....I overdosed on Doctor Who....

  endenden
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  FUCKING AWESOME!!

Thanks everyone for your votes!

*bounces with wild abandon* 8D

  foxytangerine
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  so glad you placed ^.^

  endenden
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  ...and my fingers are crossed that ScottMale and/or Sonderjen pulls out a victory at the staff vote o.o'

  ravenrivers
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Likewise. You three had my votes all the way. \\o/

  andrugolf
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  awesome stuff!! close call between endenden and frogsbreath too congrats to the winners

  thegreymirror
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  All very well deserved wins. :D

  aishadryphon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Well considering that we don't have a huge huge staff, I'm not sure it's possible to topple Edis, especially if some of the staff vote for him.

Not that I'm complaining I voted for him and so long as he doesn't go to war with PBS over foreign ink I'll be happy.

  frenzee
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  I WILL GO ON STRIKE IF WE DONT GET SONDEREJEEREJEJEN

  portzebie
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Congrats, guys! :D I wonder who'll win at the staff vote.

  herrwolff
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  BUT... WHAT ABOUT SONDERJEN

  kipper
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  *headdesk
I ALWAAYYSSS miss out on these things. urgh.. will somebody here NOTE me the next time FA has a contest or at least to vote on it PLZ? >_<

anyway my votes wouldnt have counted anyway, I voted for Portzebie and Sonderjen, with everyone going crazy about sonderjen its suprizing he didnt do better..

I DEMAND A RECOUNT!! <- there it has been said it doesnt need to be said again

J/K =op


  soundhound
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  needs moar sonderjen

  aishadryphon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  hmm it's not like ranting and raving in this thread will do any good, just be happy that this contest was even held and has been such a big success.

  fen-fen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  SON DER JEN

>:C

  scottmale24
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  65? Not bad.

  anonihmus
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  I'm happy with the results ^^

....I'll probably be sat on by a macro for this, but I'm honestly glad Sonderjen's didn't win (yet)... No offense to the artist at all but the banner itself bothered me o.O

I know _I_ certainly have no place to talk about offensive material but there's just something about "Faggot" being used like that. I think cause I AM one it brings to mind getting my ass beat and thats not something I wanna see all the time, lol o_o

  fen-fen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Well I'm bothered by Fender wanting to drop his pants for money.

  aishadryphon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Well good news for you, he will only drop his pants to get bandwidth.

  sonderjen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Because users can donate bandwidth freely.

  kipper
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Whos gonna be the first to draw him actually doing it?

  amtrack88
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  I actually don't want Fender to drop his pants.

  fen-fen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Same. He can keep his STDs to himself.

  topdog
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  I don't see why people are so pepped up about this sonderjen bloke, he lost by a long shot, which means people obviously didn't want his banner to be on FA, no offense to the artist of course, it does look like it was definatly worked hard on and looks good. SO like, get over it guys, seriously XD
And what a surprise, Edis won XD
12 votes, woooo =D that's more than what I thought I'd get XD

  sonderjen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  I am so offended.

  topdog
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  I'm Top_dog, please to meet you offended, hope I didn't Sonderjen you =3

  sonderjen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Sweet. I'm a verb now.

  aishadryphon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  well no offense but using racial slurs on the front page of a publick web site is a big no no, I am a bit surprised it was not disqualified or that the rules did not state that kind of thing would be not allowed.

That's just my honest word on the subject, I do not mean to offend or get you going.

  sonderjen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Fag is race now? I must have missed the publick annoncement.

  ritts
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  what are you senile
gays are a race
just like jews and trekkies YOU MUST BE RETARTED

  endenden
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  i swear to god
i was sure you were lying

  endenden
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  and murrtarded it now a word

  soundhound
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  i come from HOMOTOPIA
its right by Africa

  aishadryphon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  well seems like your not interested in what the community as a whole is all about anyway just from your reaction to all this.

Poor sportsmanship.

  sonderjen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  I got a message saying you responded to something - is this directed towards me, or did FA decide to hide this under Soundhound's comment?

Either way, what poor sportsmanship? Are you taking this seriously?

  rhari
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Internet is serious frikkin buisness.

  chicago-lollie
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Goddammit Sonderjen, get with the fucking times, nobody calls gay people gay and gets away with it.

Faggots don't want to be labeled correctly, they want the fucking ladies.

¿COMPRENDEZ, SEÑOR?

  anonihmus
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  o_o I didn't realize my comment would create an issue... (Poor thinking ahead on my part, i guess)

For the record, I didn't mean any offense to you or your art (Which I've seen and like. You have a cool style) and I REALLY hope you don't get flamed because of anything I was stupid enough to say without thinking..

  aishadryphon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  well it's poor sportsmanship to get so upset over not winning a simple contest intended just for fun. Even more so to get upset when people try to give constructive criticism.

  sonderjen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  When did I get upset?

  aishadryphon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  I got that from your posts in this topic, I think it's plain to see, but i'm not interested in arguing.

  sonderjen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  You're also not interested in being correct.

  gunmouth
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Yes because hinting at soliciting sex for money is FAR more acceptable than saying faggot. OH I GET IT, WHORES ARE OK BUT FAGS ARE NOT. GAWD.


but no seriously, it's called having a sense of humor, I'm sure these folks aren't seriously protesting.

  frenzee
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  IN BEFORE ED-ARTICLE

  artdecade
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  actually lol'd
heard my room mate upstairs bang on the floor for me to shut up

  dadiggerhavedug
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  I envy you Aisha! Finally! Someone that can argument instead of just throwing .... erm... shit at people =^_^= I'm no good at it myself =_= But ..... oh well!

-wuff-

  aishadryphon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Well I think the hardest thing is just letting an issue go even when another person can't let it drop.

  dadiggerhavedug
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Yup.., that seems to be the problem XD

  karmagasm
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  the cake is a lie.

  ediskrad
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  *does his victory booty dance*

Hehe... I'm glad the community liked it. Now start donating everybody! :3

  rallyfox
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  *smacks that booty* mrrrr

  aishadryphon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Hon you doing a \"booty dance\" around here, may be very dangerous, have you seen some of the \"big\" members of this community?

^_~

  buckywhitetale13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  sighs

at least i tryed

  aishadryphon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  hey you got 6 votes, and out of all the people in the contest, I'd say that's pretty good!

  buckywhitetale13
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  thanks

  semi
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  And only three of those were from himself *winks*

Honestly though, it was a nice banner. The reason it didn't make it into my favorites, I think, is that to me it didn't convey the message "Donate!" Seeing the button on a site somewhere, I would have no clue what it was about. Of course, that might entice someone to click it out of curiosity..

  rhari
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  yay! 10! I win! :3 *giggles*

  khaz
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  And I repeat...

THE CAKE IS A LIE

  horndawg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  I don't know what you're talking about; I have some cake right here. Weren't you invited to the party?

SONDERJEN

SONDERJEN

SONDERJEN


I love not having to utilize my entire brain.

  khaz
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  *deliberately keeps his hand in his pants just to defy you, and completely ignores this SONDERJEN nonsense you keep posting.

Who IS Sonderjen anyways?!

  horndawg
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  CRITICAL HIT!! MY REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY IS SUPER-EFFECTIVE!

  darkwolfe
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  especially if it,s cheesecake it says it,s cake but it looks like a pie

  amtrack88
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  SONDERJEN...

BUT WHY?

  gumakawauso
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Congrats to the winners.

And congrats to everyone too. Had you not made a submission, I don't think there's be as much... hummm... ah.. well... nevermind.

Anyway, I thought I'd point out a few things. These center around Sonderjen. Sonderjen is a really good artist, there's no denying that. The style and line work are all remarkable, but the content... I think that was an issue in my voting. And it's not because I hate gay people using the word faggot or anything, but I didn't think it'd be wise to giver certain communities ammunition. Plus, if I am a straight male just visiting, being called faggot really isn't going to open my pocketbook. But kudos! Many kudos for Sinderjen... because um.. s/he had balls and talent to place a submission. But kudos for everyone else too.

The protesters for Sonderjen.. *sigh* you know, you'd have more credence if you weren't saying silly things, or flooding. It's already a given that you're HUGE fans... don't be fanatics. No one cares for them.. just like no one cares for fat balding men painted up in an athletic teams colors and being drunk rude. You can fly your pennants, but please, don't fly up into people's faces and be rude or silly about things.

  sonderjen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  This means war.

  aquilus
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  So... where are the banners? I must have missed the links to the winning entries or something...

  neowyverdramon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Oh wow. I did better than I thought I would :) Thanks everyone that voted for meh.

  aishadryphon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  you would have to look at the original journal for the link to all the enties to find out.

http://www.thedragoneer.com/fa_donate/

  abscartoon18
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  46 votes? oh poo. ^w^ Thats means I'm so not winning. XD

And I give so many thanks to everyone who voted for my banner. =3 Thank You!

  dereckdingo
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Sooooo taking this to the Supreme Court! Sonderjen may have lost the popular vote, but those mother fuckin' electoral votes are <i>his</i>, goddammit!





Seriously though, still pulling for him in the staff election!

</endorsement>

  dereckdingo
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Ha. Italics tag fail.

  kawayama
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  JasonMiller
JasonMiller
JasonMiller

or something.

  boca1
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  But the cake realy is a lie..... thers just fire and stuff in that room



ooOOOoo a pwesent ... AHH ITS MORE FIRE!!!


no pants ftw

  werewolfdrow
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Dammit not more! I just got through a fire trap an hour ago *groans*

I actually voted for Endenden's second button, but that's cool that he got the first one.

  muddypaws
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  So? Ah...er...do we get to vote once more on these three choices?

  synchra
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  oh gawd.. I'd rather not have something so perverted on a donate button on a site I am a part of. >.< no offense to edis, his art is nice. But of the ones left I really like the last two more. I voted for frogsbreath as one of my three and somehow skipped over endenden's awesome one. I really hope endenden's wins just based on the amazing style used in it and it's really pops. I'd stand out on the page and make you wanna click it.

  mottenfest
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  it's also cub art, and perverted... D:

  synchra
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  i hadn't looked at his page. )8 I meant his submission. akdnkasndaskdskdasd. Yeah.

  mottenfest
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  yeah.....

  neonflash
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Furaffinity, powered by cub funded donations x.x

  ediskrad
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/261032/ << answer here

  synchra
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  sorry dude.. you took me wrong. I wasn't trying to offend you. :/

  aishadryphon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  it's not that perverted, only if you are perverted will it really seem that way. people say he wants to have sex with us and all that but that's never implied.

maybe he just wants to show us his power rangers boxers?

  frenzee
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Is this some half assed sarcasm or are you making an idiot out of yourself?

  aishadryphon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  a select few people, seem so offended by Edis's submission. Some have said it makes it seem like fender wants us to have sex with him for money, some say it makes him seem like a whore, others just say it's offensive but don't seem to know why.

none of those things are implied by what Edis drew, and their certainly is no nudity in it. It only seems Perverted because people are thinking along those lines, Expecting it to be perverted.

I could even find this years winter banner a bit perverted if I was thinking in the gutter.

  sonderjen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  That's one hell of a stretch.

There's a difference between a guy in a hoodie in cold weather and offering to drop your pants for donations in terms of sexual innuendo.

  aishadryphon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  ahh but I could mistake his "breath" for perhaps him spitting out ejaculate onto our screens.

It's allot about one's mind and what they are looking to see and how they want to take something.

  mottenfest
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  I highly doubt a lot of people would pay to see underwear. It's obviously a joke geared towards the perverse.

  darkwolfe
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  i,d pay to see underwear especially if it,s the Pinocchio underwear with the growing nose

  ediskrad
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/261032/ << answer here

  mottenfest
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  I don't feel too comfortable having cub art representing FA. :/

  bloodhoundomega
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  People will vote for what they like the most and as we all already experienced at some point imagening secual intercourse with under age characters is more than highly represented among the visitors of this page.

Too bad it will continue to drive away all the artists that keep preventing FA from turning into a lame collection of sickening porn. -_-

I agree with Mottenfest here. \"Will drop pants for Bandwith?\" Speak of child hustle... -_-

  bloodhoundomega
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Geee... I think that idiotic thing could even be funny... IF it wouldn't be used for FA. >_< It's all about the context in this case, I guess...

  ediskrad
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/261032/ << answer here

  suule
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  http://www.gnaa.us/ << Answer here.

Seriously though. What are you trying to achieve spamming << answer here all over the place.. You're a controversial artist. You should've thought twice before putting anything sex-related on a banner.

You didn't. You have only yourself to blame.

  suule
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  In before shitstorm and << answer here

  ediskrad
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  It wasn't sex-related. That was what the answer was about.

Also, Fail.

  suule
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Oh yeah "Simpson Quote". You know... not everyone watches Simpsons, so not everyone will get that joke. Especially one that is sexual themed. Is it that hard to understand? Calling people "Clueless fucktards" just because they don't watch some show isn't that nice either, don't you think? Not everyone has satellite/cable.

Your gallery is full of cub-fucking art, you submit works to the Softpaws magazine, and still you don't understand that people find you controversial? There wouldn't be this discussion if you did something more tame. And certainly there wouldn't be this post if you didn't behave like a typical fur and BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW over this.



  vicwuff
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  ^
|

In after cancer thats killing the fandom

  suule
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  I'd like to point out that I'm also the cancer that is killing 4chan.

  mottenfest
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  I don't have cable for one and I dislike the simpsons, so of course I missed this "hidden reference".
I wouldn't have thought anything about it if the button had said "plz donate" or something tame. Then again, I doubt it would have won if it did.


  vicwuff
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  nah, that cancer is more deadly like pancreatic cancer or something. you're more like a melanoma, just need ta have you cut off

drama fag is a fag

  ediskrad
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  I'm sorry. Next time I make a banner, I'll make it idiot-proof so even you can understand it.

Also, AIDS

  mottenfest
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Yes, person with opinion instantly becomes a \"drama fag\". Only with furries. *sighs*

  wraywolfe
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Sweet sweet secular intercourse.

  ediskrad
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/261032/ << answer here

  mottenfest
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  people that don't watch that show see a child holding a perverse sign. it's a fact.

  aydintygrr
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  I don't, and I've got no idea what that reference was.

Maybe it's just because I'm British, and we have a far deeper and more surreal sense of humour over here, but I just thought it was funny anyway. And cute.

  mottenfest
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  I'm not laughing when I see children depicted in "art" being raped.

  aydintygrr
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  ... But it is, as you say, "art".
... Beyond that, furry "art".

HOW MUCH MORE REMOVED FROM REALITY DO YOU WANT IT TO BE?

It's not even remotely close to portraying a real life situation, as is the case in loli/yaoi hentai. Who's kicking up a fuss about that?

... No, no-one can create drama like furries. That's a trophy we will always hold high.

  mottenfest
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Save for the fact these drawings have children with fur, there is nothing impossible about raping a child in school as drawn in one of the artist's pieces. That fact alone is enough to disturb anyone normal enough to see sex with a child is wrong.

  aydintygrr
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  I see sex with a child as wrong, in fact, that concept propsed in reality sickens me.
I do, however, posess the ability to distinguish between reality and fantasy.

People who take that kind fantasy into reality need serious help, but keeping fantasy and reality separate does no-one any harm, save the people who can't distinguish the two and get so worked up, as you seem to.

Using the same logic, I could just as easily claim that by liking an anthropomorphic dog in a sexual situation you want to rape a dog. Or is it okay to rape dogs? I don't know. Maybe this logic is flawed after all?

  mottenfest
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  I've not drawn me raping a dog nor do i find that in the least bit acceptable either, so perhaps your logic is flawed.

I have serious doubts that people who have an entire gallery full of child porn, lacks real photos or otherwise on their hard drives. Seems like one sick obsession, that you're defending.

  aydintygrr
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Note that I did not say you were going to rape a dog. Let me put this as simply as possible:

Obviously, by your logic, if a person looking at an adult anthropomorphic character raping an underage anthropomorphic character instantly means that the person viewing it wants to rape a child; then seeing an anthropomorphic character having sex at all must also mean the person viewing it wants to rape an animal, since a "furry" is as much a real animal as a "furry cub" is a real child.

Do you get it yet? ...

I'm not really going out of my way to defend anything, I just don't see how you can use one logical reasoning system to say one thing is "sick", then act to obfuscate that same logic when someone applies it to a similar situation that apparently reults in an outcome you are unhappy with.

At the end of the day, anything that happens in someone's imagination and nowhere else harms no-one. Cub porn is just one of many such cases within the furry fandom. Arguably adult rape, tentacle rape, vore and feral/anthro interaction are all grounds for the same argument. Nobody kicks up a fuss about these things, though. They come across a bit, go "ew, nasty" and don't look at it again. Why act so differently for this?

  semi
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  There are scores of things often depicted in art that are wrong - rape, murder, violence, genocide, etc, etc.

But they're just that, art. Is everyone who draws murder or violence (or who even finds it a turn-on) a killer? Are their harddisks filled with photographs of despicable RL crimes?

I sincerely doubt that. Because art offers people an outlet to 'live' out their FANTASIES without anyone actually getting hurt in any way. Including the fictional victims of rape or murder, and including the fictional victims of child molestation/incest.

  mottenfest
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  You are going out of your way to defend it, by responding with paragraphs of excuses.

  mottenfest
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  I openly admit I draw blood and gore because it's my kink, and I AM a violent person. ;3

  semi
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Going out of my way by using three minutes to type up something? Shrugs*

  mottenfest
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  That was for aydintygrr, not for you. Darn confusing FA comment spacing. XD

  aydintygrr
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  I'm not going out of my way to defend it, I'm pending more time just pointing out that your logic is flawed.

There's nothing wrong with something that is entirely fantasy. Only when some fuck decides to make that fantasy reality does it become wrong. In that sense, "cub" porn or anything "furry" could be "wrong". To some people it is, and the logic is the same: "this looks a bit like it could mean that, therefore it does and that's solid fact" - no matter how misguided or hypocritical.

Personally, I like a lot of fucked up things, cub porn is one of them, but I'd never hurt anyone (least of all a child) in real life. To be honest, I don't like being around children in real life (even when *I* was a child, I didn't). I think that's about as un-paedophile as you can get, really. Having said that, I don't like being around the vast majoroty of people. I'm allergic to stupidity.

  mottenfest
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  I'm allergic to people who find nothing wrong with fulfilling someone's sick and hurtful fantasy.

  aydintygrr
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  ... That's the point, it may be sick, but it DOESN'T HURT ANYTHING because it's a FANTASY!

  weeaboo
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  That's okay. Looks like he's winning anyway. Nice try :)

  darkwolfe
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  i must be blind but it didn,t look like cub art to me he,s holding a sign that blocks his body all i noticed way the big soft anime style eye,s so i thought it was cute but not cub maybe i,m just stupid dunno just my 2 cents worth

  sonadowfiend
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  You know, all the whineass furs bitching about edis' banner submission can really stop bothering now. He won by a landslide. kthxbai

  ragebanken
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  And the whambulance came... driving before it all the plauges of FA (Insert names of all those that see cubs and sex wherever they look!) And almighty Fender came down from on high and smote them with his power ranger boxers of vengence... In the aftermath there was silence and the inteligent flourished!

(You want obscure references, bet no one remembers that one...)


Seriously folks, great jobs on the banner's can't wait to see more of all y'alls work in the future!

  chibitails
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Isn't that based off futurama? reminds me of the bible.



  alchera
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Edis' image is very interesting, and it doesn't make me think of cub art. I pretty much find it a cute chibi image, but there are issues with it. Given the volume of people who are misunderstanding it to be promoting cub porn, it shows that a majority of the people do not get the reference to the Simpsons at all, due to ignorance. (Not the bad kind, the honest 'not knowing' kind.)

However, I see a second interpretation, though it might not be as obvious. The image also gives a suggestion that Fender represents a site that entirely runs on donations (what I mean is, without the Admins forking money into it as well) and not very many are willing to support it for whatever reason. It is almost 'begging' for people to donate and that is a problem.

If it's not the cub porn, eventually it'll be the image of "begging" that people bring up. I personally like the image, but I don't think it's advised for use on the site. Too many people all ready misinterpret it, sadly.

  slipstreme
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Sadly, there wouldn't have been half this much drama if the bondage banner had won, a banner that for most, can only be taken as sexual.

Gotta love those double standards....... <.<

Edis draws cub art. It doesn't mean it is the only thing he draws.

  alchera
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Of course not, but more people will make the connection and irrationally use it.

  mottenfest
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Doesn't mean it's all he draws, but 90% of his gallery contains it.

  corvidraline
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Look... I'm sorry if I offend you in this, but there's a massive difference between the sexuality implied by bondage and that by cub art.
Cub art in many cases represents a child being made to do something sexually which they do not want to do or have the ability or mental capacity to say no to. Bondage, in most ADULT cases, is a consentual situation. When it's not, it becomes rape, which is another thing altogether.

NO child should EVER be put in such a situation. EVER.

So, please, don't equate bondage to pedophilia. It's not the same.

  slipstreme
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  I didn't see a child in it. I saw a cute version of Fender, an adult character, being desparate for money. In fact, though I can see how, I won't see a child in it.

My exact reaction to the banner: "That's cute, a bit too stereotypical but that's cute". Then I saw who did it. I shook my head, groaned and put it on the desk, well the computer tower. Because I knew, even though I voted for it third hoping the order you voted in counted for something, this would happen if he won.

Why? Because he draws the cub porn. That is it. Had it been ANY OTHER artist who has NO Cub material in their gallery. NO ONE would have complained, aside from those like Alchera who can see how to equate the banner with begging and apparently Encyclopedia Dramatica already has. Plenty do cute art that can be considered child-like, but don't get flak because they don't do cub art.

Also, if you look at most of the people who draw cub art. They draw themselves as cubs. There is a huge difference IMO between babyfurs and cubfurs who WANT to BE children than pedophiles who WANT to have sex WITH children. And babyfurs and cubfurs being ADULTS who pretend they are children, are going to have ADULT desires and preferences, most are going to like babyfur/cubfur porn or are going to want porn of their character. It isn't a sexual thing for kids, it is a sexual thing for being a kid. However, the ones who prove also being pedophiles, a good zero of the ones I know IRL, who actually want to delve in the desire to be with kids are the ones I don't like. However I highly, highly doubt Edis, and most other cubfurs have any interest at all in human children.


  corvidraline
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  What I said above, really had no involvement with the badge... I was simply referring to your comparison of bondage and cub/pedophilia. I just don't think it an apt comparison.

When it comes to cubs, even if the character is themselves a cub, I don't like it. I'm sorry, call me closed-minded or whatever. I just stand firmly by the belief that an artist has the right to express thier own standards. I also don't see why a drawn piece of child porn is excusable as art and fetish when posessing a photograph of a child in a sexual situation is punishable by law. To me, it is the same thing, and should be treated equally, as a crime. But, this is MY opinion. You're free to agree or disagree as you choose.

  slipstreme
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Again, I didn't even see cub in it, just Fender. It was a cute cartoon picture, and it wasn't until I saw who drew it that I realized just where him winning was going to go.

I still think had someone else drawn it no one would have complained. It would be just like me having done a cute cartoon image, and had it won no one would have commented because I don't do cub porn. But because he does, he got all this bs about the image, and he himself didn't intend for it to be taken this way.

So in my opinion this is more about artist profiling than it is about the image. Say for example Jinksydawg drew it (not that she would, as I don't see crude humor in any of her art). She does very cute cartoons, though usually four leggeds. No one would have piped a word. But her style would have yielded a youngish looking character. People would have clicked her page, gone "oh" and went on with their life. And from what I can see people have ignored Edis' journal where he links to the exact screenshot of the Simpson's character Krusty holding the sign. Should he have thought about it, most likely, but he didn't and I am sure he didn't want this much hype about it.

And like has been said above, people who draw cute cubs tend to draw cute cub-like adults. It is in their style whether they know so or not.

Plus even with all this flames, I have yet to see his banner on the front page, and I am pretty sure this flame ar is why FA has kept it off. So more likely than not, though he won, his image will probably never be used.
...................................................................................................
The whole babyfur thing was more me talking to EVERYONE here. Because most people seem to have this idea that babyfurs are disgusting perverts who piss and shit in their diapers and jack off to little kids. And that is not who or what babyfurs are. I know several of them, and all of them have no problem whatever with the banner, and they all have no interest in little kids. So I'm trying to defend half of the furry community that is now receiving flak about it and about the fact they have material here on FA too. And people can't seem to drop the idea that because they draw it or look at it, that they must be horny for little Bobby down the street too.

  vendettaleopard
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  The whole point about it being illegal to posses child pornography, a real photo/video/whatever, is that a child has been harmed, has been sexually abused, to produce that material. Some also argue that consumption of said material fuels demand, often financially, and it results in more kids being abused to produce more material. But a drawn piece of 'child porn' as you put it, is pure fantasy and has been produced by harming absolutely nobody, therefore it is not illegal. If it were illegal, then we would be into the realm of thought police. Ever fantasise about anything illegal? Killing your boss who annoys the hell out of you? Any illegal thoughts at all, by your reckoning, should be treated equally, as a crime just the same as the real life action.

The moment it becomes illegal to create a work of pure fantasy, no matter the content, is the moment where we're all pretty muck fucked. Freedom of thought, freedom of expression, ideally freedom of speech, is an all or nothing affair.


  slipstreme
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Actually the US has passed the SAFE act making it illegal to have illustrations of children in pornographic situations, and although furry is not currently included in that, it is pretty sure soon to follow, once they look into what furry art is. The sad fact about this is that parents with nakkey pics of thier kids and people who draw kids who run around naked or even just having pictures of kids period, could soon follow. And I don't particularly care about cub art in general (just those who look at it), but I am going to be super pissed the day someone gets arrested over a naked baby picture. Hell, I could even see it be a bad thing if you had your own from when you are a kid.

  corvidraline
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  By your own concepts here, you state that photographic child porn creates a desire for more. Could not drawn child porn fulfill the same role?

I don't think that pedophilia being prosecuted will bring up something as severe as thought police. You see, pedophilia is not an entirely natural occurrence, and whereas violence does cause harm, I don't disagree with you there, it is a natural impulse of the human mind. Thoughts of violence are a process that helps ease the urge to actually commit those acts. But, then, in the same light, if your boss were found murdered, and you had been drawing pictures of his death, that would be condemnable, same as someone who is a suspected pedophile being found with child porn, real or imaginary, photographic or drawn, in thier possession.

Now, while I am not proposing the idea of locking someone up for thoughts they may have, it is in MY opinion that I would be rather willing to tear off someone's genitals if I ever found out they were sexually attracted to, or toying with sexual thoughts of, my younger sister or any children I might have.

I, as an artist and person, have the right to express my absolute and utter detest for pedophilia, in any form. You have the same right to support it, but that doens't mean I have to accept that.

  aishadryphon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Many would argue that these feelings are natural among children and even in some cases among adults for children, or even children tword adults.

It's not natural for anything to wish to abuse another and like any other sexual relationship, one person can abuse the other, but that is not to say that is the only thing that can happen, Just as an adult can abuse a child sexually, an adult can abuse another adult the same way.

Admittedly it's easier for someone looking to abuse someone to abuse a child, bt because of the stigma in this society, people who do happen to have these natural feelings for younger individuals are forced to repress those feelings.

To make a point, in Japan the legal age is 12, but you do not see anyone growing up scared for life in japan. In many other countrys the age is even lower, and still not an issue for abuse. In the middle ages, many people got married at age 10 or 12 and I assure you that in a time were it was so important to have children and keep your population up that those marriages were most certainly consummated soon after marriage. That's not to say what age people were having pre-marital sex either.

In some Asian countrys it's normal practice to teach one's children about sex by having sex with them. it's all about culture, it's all about stigma. Christian faisth says it's evil to be gay, but we say no, so who are we to assume children have no sex drive, have no sexuality at all?

They have ultra sounds of fetuses clearly masturbating, our sexuality is programmed into us from before birth. Not to mention the good honest people I know who themselves started sexual relationships with siblings and others alike as children, my spiritual mother had her first sexual encounter at age 4. and made her own choice to become a prostitute on the streets at age 8 (was one up until after collage).

Now that's not to say we should all go out and have these kind of relationships with children in this country IRL, but it is to put in in perspective. And of course this is art we are talking about, all legitimate studies show that there is no tendency to go and make these fantasys real.

But of course this debate has no place in this thread in all honest, as the banner that sparked this up has no such material in it.

  nishi
 

(Embarassing pile of fur) Posted: 7 years ago

  Well if he made the best one he deserves to win, cub or not. 8D I think it's cute.

I mean, furry discrimination is pretty cute too, but it can't compare to the winning piece here. :B

  aishadryphon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Leave it to FA to drum up Drama over everything, even a simple good hearted contest, intended to boost site moral and to maybe even get people in the giving spirit.

I feel bad for Edis, he has put so much into this site and people have done so much to spit in the face of all that.

He may draw thins that some people don't like, but that is not the point, did we not already go through this way back during the cub pron debacle? His submission was not even sexually oriented, so why the hell would that even apply anyway?

I love Edis, I think he is one of the better artists out there and I think he is very noble for sticking to what he loves to draw, going outside that box on occasion and not caving in to those who think he is wrong for doing so.

He is always so enthusiastic about FA, and I know he really wants this site to be as goos as it can be, dose it not mean anything that he still puts effort into this site even with ignorant people trying to get him down?

It seems like people might leave FA if his banner is put on the main page, and if you ask me Good riddens!! I think this place would be better without them.

  morca
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  They'd probably come back once they forgot they left too. Drama comes and goes like the tide.

  amtrack88
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  You do understand that all of us in the Sonderjen crowd are seeing this as a joke right and we're kind of laughing at how seriously the rest in this journal are taking this? Or do you really think we're really that heart broken over this?

  aishadryphon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  not really, but many people seem to be over reacting, and the main issue is what people are doing to Edis about all this crap.

  ilikeyourart
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  The cake is a portal which leads to a dimension in time where people create e-drama to make MOAR e-drama for the lulz to induce shoop da whooping in order to fire their lazerz.

Later, this will introduce barrel rolling, IN BEFORE SEXXORS, and 9000 joking.


This is: the Furry Zone.

  vickbunneh
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  I sell sense of humor, it's only $2 ! and $1 goes directly into Fender's pocket !
Seriously, I think many people here really need one, it's cheap and very useful ^^
Everyone should laugh at all the hilarious comments of Sonderjen, his calm when saying them is so funny ;3

  aemi
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  im lost. I honestly dont understand what people are so upset about on here...

  synchra
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  good lord.. people really like to take things out of context.

I am saying I don't like that button ONLY because of what it says on the sign. O.o jeezus people!! I am not downing eddis or anything.. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW he drew cub art until someone told me.. fi that's not OBVIOUS above.

SORRY.

THAT IS ALL..

OVER.

(god forbid anyone have an opinion on ANYTHING in the furry fandom!!! EVERYTHING MUST BE ACCEPTED OR YOU DIE!!!)

  pukachi
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  leave it to furries to be self-proclaimed 'open minded people'!

  synchra
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  there is one thing about being open minded, but there is another thing about having respect for the fact that others have different opinions than you.

  aydintygrr
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Methinks the point there was that if we were all so open minded, we would all have that respect...

  jesstech
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Wow, I really could not even care less about any of this.

Good job, guys. This Journal thread alone is ruining FA's pristine diamond image more than a fucking donation banner.

Jesus Christ, get over it.

  sonderjen
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  No U.

  jesstech
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  i voted for you in my heart, dawg

  aishadryphon
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Well looks like the staff finished their part of the vote, if you look at the main page new ad banners are up, though it looks like they are randomly cycling them. I refreshed it a couple times and looks like Edi's Banner is also being displayed. It also seems that only every so often will a "donate" banner be displayed, it seems that ad banners are being displayed instead of the donate banner some times.

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/.....ogryph/Win.jpg

  hulex
 

(No Subject) Posted: 7 years ago

  Well that was fun.

I just wish I knew HOW to vote but then again I never look at the site news.

SONDERJEN

  nubarq
 

(No Subject) Posted: 6 years ago

  feel free to sell any of my art,.. just make sure to thank me if you do,.. and one of these days,.. when i get a fresh start,.. -___- prolly 2010,.. look forward to a comic Im gonna call F.A.C.T. im in the working it out stage,.. cuz its gonna represent this place at about 100%,.. at least i want it to. its exact name is Fur Affinity Community Treasure,... just give me the benefit of the doubt and it will come free of charge when i get to it,.. im nearly out of paper right now T_T. you can bind it and sell it all you want with anyone who is willing to help you,.. but im keeping it free on my end,... i belive art is there for you to look at,.. so you can sell my stuff,.. just keep all the talent props in my possession. i dont care if anyone say,... i got this cool art,.. i only care if they say look what i drawd.

feel free to use my stuff thats all im saying,.. just give me credit where credit is due,.. i dont accept compensation in any way,.. i like to see happy people enjoying their time. you can sell it if you like it,.. you can tell someone they can sell my stuff,... but make sure they know this too,.. i want something i have to go for this place,.. and not just take up space.

I AM,.... nubarq and ruban nubarq is keeping it clean,.... and well watch out for ruban he is what he is.

  jym
 

(No Subject) Posted: 5 years ago

  WRITE A NEW JOURNAL ALREADY FENDER, GEEZ.

  fender
 

(No Subject) Posted: 5 years ago

  I wouldn't know what to say!

  devious-bane
 

(No Subject) Posted: 5 years ago

  A simple "hello" usually does the trick.

  melkiah
 

(No Subject) Posted: 5 years ago

  Fender quit the fandom, he ain't writing journals anymore