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No Furnal Equinox: Cancelled.
12 years ago
Sadly i have to inform those who were hoping to see me or work with me or Stormfire Studios this year at FE 2013, I will NOT be attending Furnal Equinox this year.
I am also pulling my attendance plans for Furnal Equinox at this time.
(Unless some changes & an resolution can be agreed on that makes all of whom involved happy)
Simply put: - I will not be there. There will be no Stormfire Studios Dealers table there, i will not be doing the photobooth set up there, and will not offer the printshop, The two panels i had planned are not happening there, and I will not be a part of the Fursuit sector or tract organizing for the Fursuit parade or group photo as i did last year of that convention.
Some things just went bad internally with communication breakdowns, missunderstandings, plannings, and a bit of upsets for several people including myself of the fursuit tract for FE.
Alot of miss-communications have occured, some people were very upset in the process, ( including myself, and a friend of mine (possibly now former) I have made my appologies for any problems that may have occured on my part because of some illpintended bad wording in text, but there still seems to be some involved who did not accept that or think otherwise.
I feel i have had the rug yanked out from under me on some things related to FE with a sudden decision from one of the heads of the committee, and being a part of the staff to co-organize the parade, group photo, headless lounge supplies, and other things. In recent communications with FE's con chair(s), agreements and understanding could not be achieved sadly.
So now This year i will be looking at other "local" conventions to attend and offer my services to. Maybe the Condition Convention in London, Ontario is an option. ( August 2nd - 4th, 2013.)
My appologies for those who wanted to meet, chat with , work with, etc with me at FE, I will not be there or support it as i did in the past years.
Im sorry. They just bluntly shut the door in my face so to speak regarding the fursuit tract for the con.
I can not attend a convention where i will not be happy, upset, or not in a "con mood" , it would just be a worse experience for my friends, and myself than if i just stayed away from it.
For those locals who are not attending FE, i may host a BBQ party weekend at my house if there is enough interest. i just need to know who will not be at FE and availiable that weekend.
Firestormsix - Stormfire Studios Costumes.
I am also pulling my attendance plans for Furnal Equinox at this time.
(Unless some changes & an resolution can be agreed on that makes all of whom involved happy)
Simply put: - I will not be there. There will be no Stormfire Studios Dealers table there, i will not be doing the photobooth set up there, and will not offer the printshop, The two panels i had planned are not happening there, and I will not be a part of the Fursuit sector or tract organizing for the Fursuit parade or group photo as i did last year of that convention.
Some things just went bad internally with communication breakdowns, missunderstandings, plannings, and a bit of upsets for several people including myself of the fursuit tract for FE.
Alot of miss-communications have occured, some people were very upset in the process, ( including myself, and a friend of mine (possibly now former) I have made my appologies for any problems that may have occured on my part because of some illpintended bad wording in text, but there still seems to be some involved who did not accept that or think otherwise.
I feel i have had the rug yanked out from under me on some things related to FE with a sudden decision from one of the heads of the committee, and being a part of the staff to co-organize the parade, group photo, headless lounge supplies, and other things. In recent communications with FE's con chair(s), agreements and understanding could not be achieved sadly.
So now This year i will be looking at other "local" conventions to attend and offer my services to. Maybe the Condition Convention in London, Ontario is an option. ( August 2nd - 4th, 2013.)
My appologies for those who wanted to meet, chat with , work with, etc with me at FE, I will not be there or support it as i did in the past years.
Im sorry. They just bluntly shut the door in my face so to speak regarding the fursuit tract for the con.
I can not attend a convention where i will not be happy, upset, or not in a "con mood" , it would just be a worse experience for my friends, and myself than if i just stayed away from it.
For those locals who are not attending FE, i may host a BBQ party weekend at my house if there is enough interest. i just need to know who will not be at FE and availiable that weekend.
Firestormsix - Stormfire Studios Costumes.
*Gives hug tightly*
I am so sorry shit went down, I hope to god nothing else goes wrong for awhile..
Even if I gotta pray (which is something I rarely do) to make sure.
I really am worried about you..
This isnt good, I wish it wasnt happening to you.
i just feel used about it now after the email chats. I enjoyed FE the furst and sceond years, especially the year they made me Guest of Honor, and i thank them for that.
But this year it all went bad for me, even though i wanted to work things out with some issues with communications and fellow staff members, the Chairmans(s) have sort of pulled the rug out from under me now after the last communication effort, so i'm not pushing it any further and just walking away from it.
I know I'm not involved, but I'm just trying to help.
Whether it be to lend my ear or give you as many hugs as I can till I can see you again in RL and give ya a good one.
Im sorry that you feel this way, I can understand how bad miss-communication can be. I just wish enough was enough for ya..
You really didnt need this to happen either, you need to have a good time my friend..
But possibly and honestly? I think you made the better decision to walk away from all that stress and bullshit.
I have to make it to MFF to give ya a hug since you arent gonna be at AC this year, I have to, I feel I must. You need one right now.
You arent just my fursuit maker, you're my friend, and I'll be there for ya if you ever need me Dakkota.. I care about ya.
Please just remember that I'm here for you and you can talk to me anytime, and during this rough time Im going to be watching out for ya.. making sure you're gonna be okay. I promise. :)
I sincerely hope efforts can be put into place to make things right.
Shit show bro, I am sorry to hear this.
I hope you can all talk things threw once you've all had some time to think about things.
Keep your chin up.
Me and Wolf-Bold, special like to come to FE, because you and Raverfox, a few days before we stay at Raverfox home. We will visit you definitely, maybe also at your BBQ, if you lik and a friend of mine need something from you^^
See ya at feral
*hugs*
Also, you might want to consider changing your title a bit to say "No Furnal Equinox for Me: Cancelled" I don't think I was the only one that was kinda confused. :/
it's a real shame but if they aren't prepared to make amends then you have every right to walk out *hugs*
I just hope and pray you will be happier after this all
I have walked away in the past.
HUGS!
Also Condition kinda sucked, it was very unorganized and very small. I was not informed when I was supposed to be there as a dealer, and as such, found out when I got there the den opened in 20 minutes. I then was forced to wait in line for 40 as they SLOWLY checked people in who had not registered. And to top it all off the dealers den was located on the second floor, with only one elevator access, and you needed the pompous hotel staff to operate it. I PRAY this year will be different.
I honestly can't say why, but it took an underage drinker who I knew to threaten them to letting me in because hes a bouncer and its illigal to allow him to drink, which they did. I don't know what there issue is, but like I said, FE was fine, Con:blue was not. No idea.
You seem to be making a mountain out of a mole hill here, i don't see why its an issue to require photo ID
And like I said, I had ID, just not photo ID. I showed birth cirtifcate AND the red & White Health card. They still refused to let me do anything and wouldn't give me my money back.
The issue was not about photo ID, because as well when you Pre-Reg, it says NOTHING about showing photo ID. JSYK.
Im not really sure what else I can say, but I'm sure a member of staff from Furnal Equinox can also clear up any confusion you may have
FE staff help out at Condition and Condition staff help out at FE, it's done out of support because they want each other's events to succeed. That doesn't mean that one has a say in the other.
As for the photo ID matter, Sammy covered it off well -- it's done to make sure you are who you say you are. Each and every year Registration explicitly states that they require photo identification to pick up a badge.
And FYI: you have a birth certificate and old red-and-white health card... If you bring both of them into a ServiceOntario centre, you could get an Ontario Photo Card, which Registration would accept. (I see you're 18 on your FA profile; so when you turn 19, they'll take it at the bars/Beer Store/LCBO, too.)
I've been to and staffed over a dozen different cons and I have never been allowed to pick up a badge without photo ID. And it is in the policy that you have to have a photo ID. JSYK.
I would also be interested in knowing who this underage drinker was and how he was able to be served. Do you know who served him? Underage drinking is a very serious thing and if it happened there will be consequences for the staff member that let it happen.
Thanks a bunch *hugs* Looking forward to the new layout ^^
It's definitely not going to be the same at FE without you, but I respect and understand your decision. Whatever lies ahead for you, I'll always be there to support you. *big hugs*
Sure hope to see you in Augest at Condition!
I doubt we would even be able to get our money back from them now anyhow.
Hopefully we will see you soon!
I do not hate the guy - however - I was staff at FE 2010 when he started his shit.. I know more about this than you do.
So comparing this with Dan is beyond stupid.
So, my apologies.
Things have improved since then, to where we speak amicably, work together on other conventions and I've been invited to attend and invited them to join my web site, but it's not, at least yet, where I feel I'll enjoy attending and supporting the convention.
And without enjoying it, there's very little incentive to go.
I have two other conventions I've been attending and enjoying staffing and being an assistant director at, so I imagine I'll keep attending those so long as my interest holds as well as running my own meets, but I do have some interests outside of furry I'd like to get back into as well.
Hopefully one year you'll feel more comfortable attending FE... and I have noticed that you and the staff are starting to get along better - and thats a good thing.
First, you have NO idea what he has gone through, neither do I for that matter, But you are ASSUMING a lot by saying this the way you are. You have no clue how long this could have been going on, you don't know what could have been said, how much pain could have been caused, you simply don't.
Second, I have met plenty of people, and have had a very rough experience myself with FE. While I did enjoy myself, there were some people on staff that should not be as they are not suited for the staff positions.
I won't take a guess as to what was said to make someone feel like this, but what I will guess at is that Dakkota did not just pull his support from 3-4 email's. I am going to assume its been building for some time and this was just the final straw.
The final thing I will say on the matter is that if he chooses not to support the convention any more, that is well within his right as a human being, to make his own choice. Everyone has the right to make their own choices and having someone like yourself come at them and try and guilt them for their choice, that is not right.
You are right, I have no idea what happened. I wont make a play like I do.
Though, here are my counter point.
(These are all assumptions because simply we don't know, so please keep that in mind)
If they say were under mining him, going behind his back and second guessing what he was doing, that could prove frustrating to the point of leaving.
As you quoted his opening line, it could also mean that they simply are saying your doing it wrong and pushing him away.
Again, I don't know, and neither do you. You make valid points, but you put them in a manor that is demeaning and demoralizing.
One more thing I would like to point out, I am a full advocate for free speech, but I only bring this up because of how it was said. I think people should be able to say what they want, but there's no reason we can't be civil in the way we say it.
If you have issues with Firestorm FUCKING PM HIM!!!
Your entire post makes you out to be a fucking asshole... sorry but its true...
You are insensitive - and yes, while you make very valid points... posting them like this is immature.
What he needs is time to think for himself...
What he needs is people like you NOT doing what you're doing...
You do realize you are just making this worse, right??
You think your helping him? NOPE.
All you're doing is stressing him out more and technically pushing him further away with your comments.
Sorry you had to read that shit... *hugs*
I have placed him on my watch list also on OF aswell.
This guy is a fucking nutcase.
I'll likely be blocking him shortly if he cannot discuss things reasonably without being a fucking troll..
Seriously!? So they plan to slander him with quotes that they saved!? ... Wow... the staff seem more immature day by day (If this is accurate - if its not then you are spreading a HUGE rumor which will no doubt open a huge can of WHOOP ASS.)
Immaturity would be taking anything of this out of context and judging someone for it. You can open all the cans you want and blindly back the horse you want here, but the facts will always remain.
What I was mainly trying to say is that I am shocked that they are actually holding quotes to slander him should the need arise, as that is incredibly immature.
You are making these claims, that is by definition slander. Any business has the right to keep a record of it's communications, and disprove allegations in a legal recourse if needed.
Uhhh.. The above is something YOU said... I never once said anything about slander... you did, actually...
*in preparations for slander from Firestorm6 or those on his behalf
I now understand your mistake - but re read your posts before sending them.. I try to do so all the time... A single misplaced word can make all the difference.
Agreed, and I have a feeling this journal would have never happened if FS6 agreed too.
Not taking sides.. if I were I would likely defend Firestorm - as I consider him to be much more of a friend than any of the FE staff.
This journal is posted to let my friends and those hoping to see me there, that i will NOT be attending FurnalEquinox, and i simply no longer support the convention ( meaning the services i provided to the convention as in the past.) thats it. no slander, no bullshit. None Zero.
If you with to add your own therory, twist things, or do/claim what whatever YOU think is right, than thats your opiinion.
its worth nothing here. so move along. if you dont like my jounrnals, then don't read it, don't post in it, unwatch me and go away. i dont care. Done.
10/10 would read again.
And if that was the case you wouldn't have used the Ontario furs in the making of your post. Because that line made us all sound bad, when clearly its just you lol.
Post your opinions elsewhere... all they're doing is getting everyone upset.
As I understand it is jack asses with nothing better to do that rag on people on the internet for shits and giggles... IDK, trolling seems stupid and pointless to me, but I suppose the people with no back bone need a place where they can feel like a big man to. *snikers*
I can agree with ONE thing this MadFerret troll said...
FireStorm, you 'are' hurting your fans but pulling this, as well as the con, which, I assume was the propose of the journals you have posed today... Any way...
There are other options though that would keep your fans out of disappointment land. For example you could just go as a regular old con goer and enjoy yourself, (You know, actually enjoy the con for once instead of being stuffed away in a furry market place)
If you are miffed enough you don't want to give them money if you have not yet registered, just go to the room parties and hang out in the hotel lobby other such areas where you don't need a pass. There are always lots of furs hanging around outside the con area.
Just a thought.
You are apart of the Ontario community, and even if the Con staff does not appreciate you I assure you, the rest of us in the community simply adore you, both for your suit work, and all you have done to better this community.
I do hope the misunderstanding between the staff and yourself blow over soon. I know it seems hopeless now, but time heals most wounds.
no, that is not the reason.
i no longer have any interest in FE. none. what so ever.
I can not justify spending any more money and going to somthing i would not enjoy being at. I just will not be happy at all. Sadly yes many people may be sad, and i know some have already cancelled themselves, but its the same for me. I can not go to a convention i no longer feel comfortable at or happy to go to. I can not be at a convention where i am upset, not in a mood to chat with people, possibly even grumpy, making mistakes, and so on. It would be even a worst experience for those who want to meet me there if im in a miserable mood. I hope you understand that.
This journal is posted to let my friends and those hoping to see me there, buy items from the SSC Dealers table, so that they are aware that i will NOT be attending FurnalEquinox, and i simply no longer support the convention ( meaning the services i provided to the convention as in the past, advertising, and so on.) thats it.
I know you would never hurt your fans on propose, but there are still going to be some left disappointed by your absence.
I certainly understand that, I assume any one would. It's not fair to push you in to something you feel uncomfortable with, that's just not right.
With that said I hope to see you at Condition and other Canadian cons I may one day attend.
I know from experience that it is sometimes very difficult to work with some of the staff but at the end of the day heads clash because everyone just wants to make an awesome con experience and everyone, especially around now is very stressed and worried about the results.
I have no idea what went on behind the scenes, but I have a rough idea of the stress you were probably under but remember everyone feels that same anxiety for different reasons on staff. I do hope that you guys can work something out so it doesn't end up losing a great participant of fe. But I also totally get why you would want to cut your ties and move on.
You will be missed but im sure people will see you elsewhere. Best of luck and big hugs, I hope you find the time to relax!
What you're doing is further dividing the group of furries in Ontario, and in Canada as a whole. As a staff member on multiple conventions, we don't try to backstab or hurt the reputation of the other conventions, we want everyone succeed, and by you adding fuel to the fire here and then saying that another convention is bad is inappropriate.
I am sorry you didn't have a good time at one con or another, but we don't need the "don't support X for Y reason", we really need the "please support X, because they deserve the chance because of their hard work, give them the opportunity". It takes a lot of man hours and hard work to put on a convention, and a lot of money. We can't always please everyone every time, but we do honestly try.
While Firestorm may have some grievances with what's going on with FE doesn't mean you have to go out and bash another convention and turn this journal in to something more sour than it already is. I hope that Firestorm and the people at FE can work out something, in one way or another, but if you have bad feelings for a convention, keep it out of the drama.
Way to jump to conclusions.
I will likely still attend FE because a lot of my fur friends are there and I would love to see them - but I will not be giving FE the same support that I have in the past...
-Raven Wolf
Like the last guy said, this journal is causing a lot of hate and drama. A simple, "I will not be attending FE due to technical problems with staff and planning" and a "Therefore, the following panels and extras will not be at FE this year. My apologies for any inconvenience, but I hope to perhaps see you all at the upcoming convention in London Ontario"
I mean, I get it, you vent here, you're sick of the people, but, you run a business and hold a very high reputation.
Either way, I'm still sorry to hear about that, and hopefully I'll spot you at Condition!
This year will be my first year of convention going, so I have no prior experience, at all.
All I can say is London is my home turf and we would all be honored to have you there! From the looks of it, it gets bigger every year :3
Either way, keep your chin up chuck, try to find some kind of stress relief soon.
I wish you the best firestorm in your fight.