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I'm in a Marvel Comics mood....to rant...
12 years ago
okay,
so I think last month I kept bitching about how God awful Batman was
and I think me and the rest of the planet pretty much agreed that it was an
incredibly weird and awful movie.
but, during that same time when everyone was trying to figure out what was
so great about Batman another super hero movie came out that got almost
completely ignored what with all the shootings and conspiracy behind batman
and that guys name was Spider Man.
now,
yes, I loved the Sam Rami spider man movies I think they were great,
but Goddammit how I love this new kid who played Peter Parker, he was
cocky and nerdy and just the right balance for a Peter Parker everyone could
know and love and yet no one seems to notice this movie.
it stuck to the classic ideas, more specifically the web shooters and as impossible as they are to believe that something like that could work, they took the time to make you believe
that "hey, maybe that could work".
and as for his eyesight, I think this was absolutely awesome, that he had corrective
lenses in his spider man mask.....YES...not to say this is cool from a movie stand point,
but when I noticed that I felt like Milhouse from the Simpsons when he bought that
comic book with the glasses wearing super hero. "Yes, I have bad eye sight I need
corrective lenses, what!!! Spider Man wears glasses!!???" for me that made all
my optic problems seem a little cooler.
Also,
the enemy they went with was Lizard,
I think this was clever simply because the past 3 spider man movies built up
Dr. Conners to be a very tangible character in the series and they didn't deliver it
and this particular Conners was fucking nuts....and that made his intro that much
sweeter.
I don't know what it was about this spider man that was so cool to me
and again, it really bummed me out that not a lot of folks talk about it but I really
enjoyed it. All I've really heard was "it was pretty good".
I think this is how things are not only in my life but in most it seems,
if a movie is good, fine, I'll go see it and be done with it, but if a movie has
flaws, then that movie is worth seeing. A good example of this is the Twilight series,
if those movies weren't so fucked up and terrible I don't think majority of people
would want to watch them. part of the fun of a movie is to be able to participate
in the critique of movies, or even better, when a movie blows your mid with something
totally New that you've never seen before, a bit like the way the Matrix introduced
"Bullet Time" you had seen it before in movies, but not in such detail, so things
become freshly introduced and then every movie becomes compared to the movies
that invent the ideas.
but,
Spider Man was awesome, if you say you saw the Sam Rami one, fine, but if you
don't want to see Toby Mcguire's sappy ass then for the love of God please check out
this new kid, he is what Peter Parker should have been all along.
on another Marvel Comics note,
here is the Plot to the New X-men Movie:
http://screenrant.com/tag/x-men/
(TIME TRAVEL) this is going to be really awesome or really terrible.
if they mention Apocalypse it could be totally worth it.
so I think last month I kept bitching about how God awful Batman was
and I think me and the rest of the planet pretty much agreed that it was an
incredibly weird and awful movie.
but, during that same time when everyone was trying to figure out what was
so great about Batman another super hero movie came out that got almost
completely ignored what with all the shootings and conspiracy behind batman
and that guys name was Spider Man.
now,
yes, I loved the Sam Rami spider man movies I think they were great,
but Goddammit how I love this new kid who played Peter Parker, he was
cocky and nerdy and just the right balance for a Peter Parker everyone could
know and love and yet no one seems to notice this movie.
it stuck to the classic ideas, more specifically the web shooters and as impossible as they are to believe that something like that could work, they took the time to make you believe
that "hey, maybe that could work".
and as for his eyesight, I think this was absolutely awesome, that he had corrective
lenses in his spider man mask.....YES...not to say this is cool from a movie stand point,
but when I noticed that I felt like Milhouse from the Simpsons when he bought that
comic book with the glasses wearing super hero. "Yes, I have bad eye sight I need
corrective lenses, what!!! Spider Man wears glasses!!???" for me that made all
my optic problems seem a little cooler.
Also,
the enemy they went with was Lizard,
I think this was clever simply because the past 3 spider man movies built up
Dr. Conners to be a very tangible character in the series and they didn't deliver it
and this particular Conners was fucking nuts....and that made his intro that much
sweeter.
I don't know what it was about this spider man that was so cool to me
and again, it really bummed me out that not a lot of folks talk about it but I really
enjoyed it. All I've really heard was "it was pretty good".
I think this is how things are not only in my life but in most it seems,
if a movie is good, fine, I'll go see it and be done with it, but if a movie has
flaws, then that movie is worth seeing. A good example of this is the Twilight series,
if those movies weren't so fucked up and terrible I don't think majority of people
would want to watch them. part of the fun of a movie is to be able to participate
in the critique of movies, or even better, when a movie blows your mid with something
totally New that you've never seen before, a bit like the way the Matrix introduced
"Bullet Time" you had seen it before in movies, but not in such detail, so things
become freshly introduced and then every movie becomes compared to the movies
that invent the ideas.
but,
Spider Man was awesome, if you say you saw the Sam Rami one, fine, but if you
don't want to see Toby Mcguire's sappy ass then for the love of God please check out
this new kid, he is what Peter Parker should have been all along.
on another Marvel Comics note,
here is the Plot to the New X-men Movie:
http://screenrant.com/tag/x-men/
(TIME TRAVEL) this is going to be really awesome or really terrible.
if they mention Apocalypse it could be totally worth it.
it was the Wolverine movie that almost killed it for me.
at least he has his accent and Vinnie Jones was pretty cool
to represent the character.
I know everyone thinks of it this way, and my only argument to that is,
the kid can absorb any form of Power/Energy regardless of it's origin,
plus it's a plot device used to stop Juggernaut.
I mean, I'm not gonna say the movie shouldn't have gone the way it did,
but overall I found it entertaining if not at all accurate.
I love the Phoenix saga and honestly it's my favorite part of the entire X-men series,
and I really hated this movie at first, but it wasn't the story I really liked but really just
the performance of the characters that was really fun.
the only way that I can argue this movie (as if I should even try) it's a Multiverse X-men,
something that could have came as a "What if".
the thing I've always had to learn with the "movie adaptation" of pretty much anything is
that this is a Directors Idea of what they wanted from the movie and I suppose that's okay
sometimes so long as you take it simply as that without adding too much emphasis on it,
and I think real fans of all media understand that "this is the Movie version" and they go
back to loving the thing before it was destroyed by a Hollywood debauchery.
just look at Aeon Flux and the Transformers, it doesn't mean those franchises are dead,
it only means that some director fucked up what use to be an excellent stage performance,
they stripped away the things that made it art and made it look like everything else which is
why the magic is lost, however when you go back to the roots you still remember what it was
that made that thing you loved originally so magical.
and again my point is, this is why I was okay with x-men 3, it was stupid and told wrongly
but there was something about it I enjoyed, even if it wasn't great I didn't completely hate it.
I for one welcome our new sentinel overlords and would be outrageously disappointed if wolverine's death is any more climactic than that series' sudden "yeah no obliterated" moment. it drove home the desperation of the situation, and watering it down would be miserable.
(although tongue and cheek, Wolvie had only been around for 7 years by the time the original story line ran, so I really don't know what I'm being so gaga over...)
also i was pretty young when the pheonix saga first happened so maybe i'm a tad askew on how it all went down so i guess i could be wrong about how it made the xmen useless.
and holy lord did I love every bit of it, it was the first time I had ever grasped the concept of character
being so Godlike in strength "how could this compare to anything else?"
and in the comic, she literally destroys several life filled planets just as a form of dealing with
her sexual frustration, it is so intense the way they described her. In the end when she finally gets
a reasonable grip on her own humanity she begs everyone to kill her because when she was free
to do everything her mind was open to these God like possibilities, it was similar to a "Doctor Manhattan"
type character where a human evolves into a demi like creature, something about that has always
fascinated me and I think that's why the Phoenix saga was such an open minded experience for me,
even if the movie did fuck it up.
also dr.manhattan always bothered me a lot as the fact that no country ever tried to make their own doctor Manhattan which always seems like a huge glaring plot hole in that storyline... well among the many of other things wrong with that story XD
to each their own I suppose.
Like, for example, Leech (the nullification mutant) has been known, on occasion, to nullify things that aren't mutants. Other powers, like those granted from aliens. He's not famous for it. It's fairly inconstant. But there is a precedence for it. I think, still, they did have Cain as a mutant, though, and not have him gain powers Cyttorak's gem simply as a way of cutting down on story time (which the movie already was fairly long), but there you have another example of higher levels of purity.
As far as the Phoenix Force goes...
The X-men have constantly been fraught with any number of immaculate beings that made them look "pathetic and useless" in their 'show.' (Stuff like the above mentioned Cyttoark Galaxtus, Apoc, Death)But that's kind of the deal! That's the draw! the hook! You learn, as a writer, that there's nothing worth reading if it doesn't have conflict. Seriously. Nothing. There are no stories about average days. And Kirby and Stan Lee knew that. By comparison, look at Superman. Look at old Superman, in particular. Back when he could just make up powers on the fly, and blink out entire planets with a wink... conflict was a non-issue, made pointless and stupid by a jack-of-all-trades-swiss-army-knife super hero. That's why he got canned. That's why he got scrapped, several times. That's why we hardly see him in these JL, JLA, JLU series (he's always off stopping some typhoon, or volcano - he's basically fighting the Earth itself, 24/7) because he's still just too power. Imagine, if, for a second, that Phoenix was the main protagonist of the story. It would be pretty hard to root for her as she just kinda lounges around, taking care of things without really doing any thing. That's why our P.O.V. is normally centered on the Uncanny X-men. ...
Also, the P.F. saga had little or nothing to do with the cancellation of the series. Just that nothing good lasts forever.
Also, how do you recreate an undocumented accident? ... I think the tone of the Watchmen was one of caution over super-powered beings. Also, that the U.S. couldn't be rivaled.
Which is why the good lord gave us Batman: Mask of the Phantasm.
However, I do agree with the you on the new Spider-Man. Firstly, because it washed some of that third Rami film out of our brains. Second, as you've mentioned, it stars an actor who was willing to play both Parker and Spider-Man, without acting as though he should be ashamed of either. The characters also have a stronger relationship in the new films (doomed as it may very well be.) And it did this without resorting to glider wound experts, or pie that's just soooo good.
As far as the new X-men goes, I'm willing to give it a shot. It's an iconic story (then again, so was the Phoenix saga,) and First Class managed to stay relatively on the rails. Also Peter Dinklage has signed up it. No clue who he's going to play (nobody say the dreaded M word,) though my guess is they'll either pull a Heimdall with an established character, or go Gollum/Andy Serkis with a CGI character.
i love comics but a lot of current comics that originated from stuff from the
70s,80s and 90s, as much as I love them it can be a little tough to keep up with.
I went to the book store the other day and picked up a recent issue of X-men and
it was so crazy, professor X was a head in a glass jar and they were time traveling
all over the place and it was hard to really keep up, I was just trying to figure out
the story.
what I've fallen in love with over the years is graphic novels, a complete story
without having to collect every issue of something, just more convenient and
easier to get through a story.
could just be that I'm getting older,
especially when my favorite books I pic up in a bookstore are things like
"Chinese born american", "Maus" and pretty much anything written by Harvey Pekar
or R. Crumb, I've gotten to like the human stuff here lately, I guess because things
start becoming relateable.
but this Doc Oc being Peter Parker!!! wow, talking about going ape shit, lol.
And of course the fucked up story that has nothing at all with the comic.
I'd rather to watch a still images of comic, over a fucked up movies, I stopped watching super heros movies. The animation movies of them are much MUCH better !
Btw Twilight are a super fucked sick movies idk why the hell it getting high ratings! I almost puke watching it on TV >_< so sick!
Sorry my opinion.
the reason Twilight is so good, is because it's horribly God Awful,
and that's what makes it fun to watch, either your a stupid teenage girl
who likes the romance behind it, or your everyone else who pokes fun at this
thing non stop, either way it's good for a laugh.
and yea, super hero movies have had both good moments and bad,
I can't help it, I like em, always will, even though they do a poor job of
portraying characters in some light, I still enjoy them just because it's neat seeing
what a real life concept would look like, even without going into too much detail
it's fun just to see a character momentarily brought to life.
I don't know, I'm starting to realize I'm in a small boat with few, or a large
boat with all the sheep, either way I'm trying to make the best of my time.
Have you got your hands on the game? It's also a bit of fun, going more back to the Spider-man 2 game formula, while also giving you a good bit of extra story. You know, after the fact kind of stuff.
OHhhhhh, and, there are some people who think Twilight is an actually good book series and movie franchise, so... yah. There's that.
I dig your insight on this,
and yea, I've always loved the black suit Spiderman and Eddie Brock,
I think I just love the concept of Venom so much, I'm curious to know
what an average kind of person with no real violent side to them would
do with a suit like that, how would this person handle the black suit, like
a Buddhist monk, someone who has really trained their emotions to handle
that level of crazy.
that sounds like a fun story.
if I remember correctly isn't that how "Toxin" was suppose to be?
And, yah, one of the Symbot Spawn was a law officer.
I don't know. Given how crazyy powerful crazy 'ol Casedy is, being calm and in control might impair the powers...