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Why I Hate Most Fatal Vore
12 years ago
Many people have wondered why I dislike fatal vore so much so I thought I'd let everyone know the answer. ^-^
Fatal vore itself doesn't bother me. I think that it can have a good place in a seriouse story or artwork. However, that all changes when it's placed in a smut story / image. Why? Well, to be painfully blunt, it's because then it gives the implication that there are people jerking off, or if they're a female, diddling thierself, to it. In other words, getting off on the fantasy of killing or being killed forever.
First off, there's something that I never understood. EVERYONE that say's they prefer fatal vore always says it's because it's a lot more emotional and powerfull. BUT what good is it if the emotion that is envoked is always either rage, sadness, or hopelessness, and never happieness, joy, or love?
It's as if no one, who only likes fatal vore, see's love as being a powerful emotion, that love is meaningless and weak.
And then there's the whole "Well, reformation or the prey staying alive inside the pred just isn't realistic" argument. (says the following in Lewis Black's voice) Hmmm, so the part with there being sentient anthropomorphic creatures with the ability to swallow those the same size as they are through any oriface, and digest them completely into pudge, muscle, or cum falls under the catagory of realism? Naw. You don't say? Really? I would have never guessed. Good googly moogly color me informed. XD
And of course there's the ever common "Ultimate dominance / Ultimate submission". And just when you thought the answer to that was BDSM, hahaha. Now I can understand this one a little more than the first two. I see vore as the pred being VERY dominate and the prey being VERY submissive. You figure, once inside the pred, you're fate is in thier hands. With me, that knowledge is enough. Part of the turn on for me is knowing that the predator COULD digest me forever, but instead either shows that they care about me enough to let me live, or simply has enough respect for life to let me keep mine. But others take it to the point of no return. They want to destroy the one they're dominating and reduse them to nothing, or they want to be reduced into nothing/become a part of something greater. That sparks concern in me.
If the prey is portrayed as someone who never hurt anyone, who never would hurt anyone, then at the end of the story/art description, I'm left with feeling rage towards the predator, and it in turn makes me wonder if the owner of the character is just as cruel.
I know the chances are they're not, that they're probably great people who wouldn't so much as hurt a fly, but my mind has a hard time comprehending that when they're arroused by and get off to a fantasy where they take the life of an innocent forever. Now a days I try to push that kind of thinking out of my head, since I'm now friends with someone who uses fatal vore as a coping mechanism. I know that he is a good person and is probably the one of the kindest most thoughtfull people I've meet. But because of two other furs, who had told me that they WOULD fatally vore innocent people, even children, in RL if they could, I will always wonder if others think the same way.
Don't get me wrong though, I like fatal vore in smut IF the prey was cruel/evil. Examples would be if the prey had been a: Pedophile, murderer, rapist, molester, drug dealer, terrorist, and/or hardcore racist/homophobe.
There are also 2 scenarios in which I'm able to like fatal vore (but in a NON-SEXUAL way) of innocents in another furries world where reformation doesn't exist:
1. The prey is dying or severely ill and wants to become a part of the predator to end the pain. (An act of mercy and love)
2. The predator was literally starving to death and the prey sacrificed thier own life to save them. (an act of selflessness and love)
But yeah, for those who have wondered why I dislike fatal vore for the most part, or what my views and boundaries are, this basically sums it up. I'll be happy to answer any questions if there are any.
Oh, and I typed this at 3AM, so there's probably a crapload of grammar mistakes. My appologies, hehe.
Fatal vore itself doesn't bother me. I think that it can have a good place in a seriouse story or artwork. However, that all changes when it's placed in a smut story / image. Why? Well, to be painfully blunt, it's because then it gives the implication that there are people jerking off, or if they're a female, diddling thierself, to it. In other words, getting off on the fantasy of killing or being killed forever.
First off, there's something that I never understood. EVERYONE that say's they prefer fatal vore always says it's because it's a lot more emotional and powerfull. BUT what good is it if the emotion that is envoked is always either rage, sadness, or hopelessness, and never happieness, joy, or love?
It's as if no one, who only likes fatal vore, see's love as being a powerful emotion, that love is meaningless and weak.
And then there's the whole "Well, reformation or the prey staying alive inside the pred just isn't realistic" argument. (says the following in Lewis Black's voice) Hmmm, so the part with there being sentient anthropomorphic creatures with the ability to swallow those the same size as they are through any oriface, and digest them completely into pudge, muscle, or cum falls under the catagory of realism? Naw. You don't say? Really? I would have never guessed. Good googly moogly color me informed. XD
And of course there's the ever common "Ultimate dominance / Ultimate submission". And just when you thought the answer to that was BDSM, hahaha. Now I can understand this one a little more than the first two. I see vore as the pred being VERY dominate and the prey being VERY submissive. You figure, once inside the pred, you're fate is in thier hands. With me, that knowledge is enough. Part of the turn on for me is knowing that the predator COULD digest me forever, but instead either shows that they care about me enough to let me live, or simply has enough respect for life to let me keep mine. But others take it to the point of no return. They want to destroy the one they're dominating and reduse them to nothing, or they want to be reduced into nothing/become a part of something greater. That sparks concern in me.
If the prey is portrayed as someone who never hurt anyone, who never would hurt anyone, then at the end of the story/art description, I'm left with feeling rage towards the predator, and it in turn makes me wonder if the owner of the character is just as cruel.
I know the chances are they're not, that they're probably great people who wouldn't so much as hurt a fly, but my mind has a hard time comprehending that when they're arroused by and get off to a fantasy where they take the life of an innocent forever. Now a days I try to push that kind of thinking out of my head, since I'm now friends with someone who uses fatal vore as a coping mechanism. I know that he is a good person and is probably the one of the kindest most thoughtfull people I've meet. But because of two other furs, who had told me that they WOULD fatally vore innocent people, even children, in RL if they could, I will always wonder if others think the same way.
Don't get me wrong though, I like fatal vore in smut IF the prey was cruel/evil. Examples would be if the prey had been a: Pedophile, murderer, rapist, molester, drug dealer, terrorist, and/or hardcore racist/homophobe.
There are also 2 scenarios in which I'm able to like fatal vore (but in a NON-SEXUAL way) of innocents in another furries world where reformation doesn't exist:
1. The prey is dying or severely ill and wants to become a part of the predator to end the pain. (An act of mercy and love)
2. The predator was literally starving to death and the prey sacrificed thier own life to save them. (an act of selflessness and love)
But yeah, for those who have wondered why I dislike fatal vore for the most part, or what my views and boundaries are, this basically sums it up. I'll be happy to answer any questions if there are any.
Oh, and I typed this at 3AM, so there's probably a crapload of grammar mistakes. My appologies, hehe.
As for being disolved and such, I like that as long as the acids are numbing instead of painfull, and it happens AFTER the prey has fallen asleep/passes out. Then the predator reforms the prey in the morning or next couple days. That way the predator gets nutrients and the prey get's to nurish them, still live, and it's a good way to shead a few unwanted pounds, hehe. ^-^
Looove your icon by the way, haha.
I can just picture you singing "Baaabaaa loooooooo!" From I Love Lucy, haha. ^#^
i mean, bondage part, i REALLY only feel it qualifies if it goes into stuff like a naga/serpent constricting the person to render them helpless. otherwise it's merely just....(okay brain flopped here because of Bluke's icon just above...is amusing me XD)
ahem, otherwise it's merely just kind like..."not really bondage....even i could tear through muscle and stomach tissue <<....claws, use them!"
given any unwilling prey scenarios are few and far as well...
i dunno though. myself:
i prefer soft vore with the idea that "still alive once inside, helpless to struggle as they wish to, but no escape." in many cases. gives it this "life in peril" kinda feel that makes it awkwardly enjoyable. *shrug* then again, i'm also into rape, so i guess that is along the same lines ^^" (which is odd given my history of having been victim of such ^^" lol)
rambling for me, but i hear ya bud :3
I can kinda understand coiling a pesudo-rape fantasies. I like the idea of having a werewolf or naga chasing me down, ripping off my clothes, and burring the bone myself, haha.
And it's not really odd that you have a likeing for rape fatasies, given your history. I've known many people admit the same on here and SF. Far as I can tell, it's a coping mechanisim. In the fantasy, even though you're fantasizing about not having controll, you're still in controll because it's YOUR fantasy. I hope that makes sence. :3
Just a note, that is technically fatal for a period of time.
See, in a scenario like that, where if I was turned into cum and such, my esence and soul, and chemical makeup would still reside within him as a seperate entity. Meaning that I'd still exist / be alive. Think of it as being in a coma for a short while. As long as my soul stays within his body and he doesn't expell or desrtoy it, then I could live within him. I hope that makes sence. :3
How does the predator dominate the prey if the prey is dead?
He killed the prey only but he has not really dominated the prey.
Also he can not dominate the prey again if the prey is dead.
True domination is only possible if someone can be dominated.
Only someone who lives, you can dominate.
It is as if you would try to dominate butter in the refrigerator or butter on the bread.
It makes no sense.
The prey noticed nothing.
The prey is dead
Is the same as if you tries to dominate a grave.
It makes no sense.
I understand not what you think.
Please explain it to me!
Being as I don't like fatal myself, I can't fully understand it either.
Think of it this way.
Say for example you dominate someone through bondage.
After a while that becomes routine and dull, so you move on to bondage + orgasm denial.
Then that becomes routine.
Eventually you've tried everything there is that one can do to dominate another.
No matter what one comes up with, it will eventually lose it's appeal and become routine.
Those who like fatal vore see it as the ultimate domination or ultimate submission because it doesn't leave room for it to become routine.
It's a one time thing.
It is seen as the ultimate submission because the prey is submitting thier life to the predator (whether it's willing or not is another matter) and it is seen as the ultimate domination because the predator it dominating them in the highest form by having full control over whether they live or die.
Those who go on and kill the prey usually turn the prey into muscle, pudge, or some other form of mass.
The predator sees the prey as BEING that pudge, muscle, or mass, and so, in a way, the predator has permanently dominated the prey in every way shape or form.
I'm afraid that's the best I can explain it from what I understand by observing those who are into it. :3
Sorry!
I think completely different.
I think the way I have written it.
Also I think it is a merciless (very evil) domination and not a ultimate domination!
Example.:
Sorry I do not understand!
It is as if you would try to dominate butter in the refrigerator or butter on the bread.
It makes no sense.
The prey noticed nothing.
The prey is dead!!!
Is the same as if you tries to dominate a grave.
It makes no sense.
I understand not what you think.
Please explain it to me!
Only thing I could suggest is to ask someone, who's into fatal vore, politly if they would be so kind as to explain thier view of it to you.
Chances are that you still won't understand what's going on in thier head, but then again it took maaaaany conversations with others for me to even begin to understand it. And, while I kinda understand what it is that THEY like about it, it doesn't mean that I'm any closer to liking it. As observed by this journal.
Trust me, I don't fully understand it myself, being that it's not my cup of tea.
If you want I can make an example!
What do you think?
Are you interested?
I understand perfectly. :3
What are you thinking?
Or what kind of comic are you thinking?
Most of my predators are secretive sorts who ambush people. Fatal vore is more or less required for them because if word got out of their activities they'd be hunted down. The few preds I have who can reform prey do so, because they have no reason to be so secretive. There are prey in my stories from time to time who can reform themselves, too, but since most of my preds are hungry assholes who just want a meal they don't know or care that their lunch is going to recover somehow. 83
The "Depressed person feeds himself to pred" and "friend feeds herself to pred so he will survive" have both appeared in my stories. They are rare but they do happen.
I suppose the predator could reform them without any memory of what happened to keep from being hunted down, or target those people wouldn't care went missing (pedos, rapists, etc). But again, in your universes we're dealing with creatures, usually feral, who see anything smaller than they are (and sometimes bigger than they are, hehe) as nothing but food.
The wall I run into is knowing that there's people out there getting off to the fantasy of taking an innocent life forever or the fantasy of being killed. I know it's just that, a fantasy in ones mind translated to paper or the writen word, but because of two other furs, who had told me that they WOULD fatally vore innocent people, even children, in RL if they could, I will always wonder if others think the same way.
I don't recall and pics or stories (other than the one with the otter at the baths with the gul)in which the prey live. Do you have any other examples? :3
“Even emotions we perceive as negative, such as fear, anxiety, guilt, and disgust, trigger dopamine release. Normally, this dopamine motivates us to escape or resolve distressing situations, but in the context of corn, the brain misinterprets this as arousal.”
Thanks for the good question and sorry for waiting for so long.
Edit: Also, good to see that we're all human still, especially. I've come across fatal vore as erotic, so I would know most likely. I would rather do soft vore actually, perhaps like the fact of being preserved in a poop jar as sentient as a joke, seriously.
Why is there a timer down below on the comment edit window? Wow, I'm new to this!
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