Painting Without Lines - HOW DO YOU DO IT?
12 years ago
For all those of you who paint without lines... How do you do it?
How do you organize your layers? How do you split them up?
I'm particularly interested in how you BEGIN the process... How advanced are your sketches when you really start working on them? What do you immediately block out? Is it black and white for values, is it on its own layer, is it under or over the sketch?
I'm just so damn frustrated with trying to learn to paint.
I basically feel trapped by using lines for my art, both here and professional stuff. I can't get away from them. Crisp, clear, sharply defined lines work for some styles but it's useless for what I'm trying to do, and being so dependent on them just makes me rage out hard. I want to do more realism and stylised stuff, but the fact that I am a cartoonist is really holding me down. I've hit a ceiling in that way and it's been bugging me for a while now. Insert Queen song "I Want to Break Free" here.
If you have artistic advice, please let me know! I am always willing to chat art and exchange techniques.
How do you organize your layers? How do you split them up?
I'm particularly interested in how you BEGIN the process... How advanced are your sketches when you really start working on them? What do you immediately block out? Is it black and white for values, is it on its own layer, is it under or over the sketch?
I'm just so damn frustrated with trying to learn to paint.
I basically feel trapped by using lines for my art, both here and professional stuff. I can't get away from them. Crisp, clear, sharply defined lines work for some styles but it's useless for what I'm trying to do, and being so dependent on them just makes me rage out hard. I want to do more realism and stylised stuff, but the fact that I am a cartoonist is really holding me down. I've hit a ceiling in that way and it's been bugging me for a while now. Insert Queen song "I Want to Break Free" here.
If you have artistic advice, please let me know! I am always willing to chat art and exchange techniques.
I kid. I am also interested as well, it is a fantastic art style and it would be nice to see more of it here on FA
http://domitar.deviantart.com/art/S.....15534&qo=8
If I could ever get better at line work or digital stuff I might get somewhere!!!
Have the sketch on a layer, and the painting on a (multiply)layer over it!
That way you can still follow your guidelines with your base colouring, and make out the shape that way. It must be different for everyone, but that's what works the best for me!
This lovely person made a tutorial i looked at yesterday
In which they make it look easy.
Quite useful i think
I want to try not using lines so much too.
My sketches are really rough and I use my 'paint' to sculpt the characters, rather than just color them. Sometimes I 'undo' 10 times before I am happy with a particular look. Add paint, take some away, add some more.. much like working with clay.
I use top layers to add some final depth with extra high lights and shadows..
I only use Open Canvas Plus (4.5, newer versions give me errors). Programs like photoshop scare me with all the functions and stuff. After years of working with OC I still don't know what all the functions do
Benefit of staying basic is that I can pick up paint and basically use the same techniques... Only I do miss my 'undo' function with traditional media.
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/9830963/ sketch
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/9871271/ finished piece
This is my favorite digital painting tutorial that I've seen that most closely resembles what I aim to do in my own work: http://tasteslikeanya.deviantart.co.....8875&qo=41
Though I do it a bit differently myself. I was going to explain it, but decided it would be easier to show you in gif form.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v.....f?t=1367468161
Hope that helps.
Here are some nice tutorials. Also, check out the rest of the site. There's a lot of good videos there.
http://ctrlpaint.com/videos/line-removal-pt-1
http://ctrlpaint.com/videos/line-removal-pt-2
And if you're new to direct painting (rather than having a separate layer for shadows, highlights, etc.) then try painting completely in black and white first and then making a multiply layer on top and adding color that way.
On actual paper it's different. On paper I go for all the lighter colors first then mix in all the darker shades later.
In both cases I have an idea of what I want to make before I make it. I've never really used a sketch for the digital since I don't have an actual layering program such as SAI or Photoshop but on paper I do have a sketch first but if I go "outside the lines" it's perfectly fine as the darker colors can correct any of my mistakes later. :3
Another thing I learned was to watch movies with really good cinematography, and to pause the DVD at especially beautiful shots and study what about them made it so amazing, or even doing quick marker sketches of the still shots.
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/8353599/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/8343078/
the best way for me is to start with a sketch with a normal brush and make some shapes. just like a start of a lineart drawing. crappy quick sketches.
than use a new layer below it and do a quick color block.
than merge them and paint of it to the amount of details you want.
you can always add extra layers if you want to try some stuf on the foreground and merge them later to make it easier to blend.