Furlandia 2013 post-con report from an operations standpoint
12 years ago
I am still exhausted since I only came home from the hotel this morning. A write-up is something I have to do though! It's going to be long and fairly detailed.
I'm Triss, and officially I was the Volunteer and Staff Coordinator. Probably the closest thing to Operations Director that wasn't Chairman or Vice-Chairman in reality. Atso was our Chair, Stephen what I would call vice-chair despite what he wants to say. This write-up will be unbiased as much as possible, and from an operational standpoint with insight in to all aspects of the convention and what did or did not go on.
1. The convention was a major success to us. Our numbers were 270 officially. I have no doubt that there is a little error and they were a bit higher. We had more vinyls than that and ran out Saturday evening soooo. 270 officially all the same. This was on par with some second year conventions. Rainfurrest's first year was about 330, and that was about 7 years ago with no regional conventions in the PacNW as a long standing thing really.
I always expected between 200 to 300, though decided we would be happy if we even broke 200 as it got closer. Financially the convention was more of a success than we expected and will lend to much better assets for next year's start. We made some decent profit for reinvestment. Half of the Rainfurrest board was down at one point or another, and all of them thought we did good for ourselves with hiccups that were expected.
2. We know there were problems. Very few problems can be so unnoticeable that we wouldn't be more aware than most of the attendees. Almost all of the problems can be attributed to the following things:
First year convention (find one that didn't have some snafus), bad hotel, inexperienced convention staff doing this for their first time, 4 months of planning. I will expand on some of these.
3. That 4 months of planning part. There was such little time to plan that even people that run other conventions really doubted we would be able to pull this off at all. Yes everything was rushed. The website was horrible, our publicity and promotion via social media sucked. We didn't have the infrastructure and staff structure we needed to make things easier on us. Everything happened extremely last second. I absolutely HATE how little communication we had with the community. This is NOT all the time we figured we needed, this was all the time we were given by our chair and vice-chair to make it work. Originally we jumped on to try and minimize the damage and to make sure our friend didn't bankrupt himself. It just turned in to more of a labor of passion to actually make it more than "break even" and to become a success as time went on. If you want to criticize about our lack of planning then trust me you are preaching to the choir.
4. This was our first year, year 0. Most of us have no experience running conventions, and none of us had experience running furry conventions. I probably had more furry convention attending experience than any 3 staff members put together. Even the long time "pros" of the furry convention world will tell you that most of our mistakes were the common ones made by all first year cons.
5. Not only was it first year, but we started with no money. We didn't beg the OSFCI for a financial handout, we didn't sell ourselves to some non furry entity to compromise the experience, we didn't take out loans...etc. We are all a bunch of poor-ass Portland area furs. We didn't even really have much in the way of equipment or gear to give. We had ZERO starting capital for expenses. We had to work to fund raise, or spend our own money, etc. The game room ran entirely on stuff our staff donated for use for instance.
6. The hotel was just problematic from the start, but once it really became obvious just how terrible they were, we were backed in to a corner. We had two choices; Make the best of things, or cancel the convention. If you are familiar with the history of the Portland community then I don't need to tell you how canceling the convention would have played out in dooming attempts for the future. It also raises legal questions after a point. There is -nothing- we could do about facility and hotel problems, and we suffered right along with you. My opinion, not Furlandia's, is that the hotel was complete shit. AC sucked in rooms and event spaces, the elevators sucked, the ice machines sucked, the amenities sucked, the staff screwed all sorts of things up, rooms weren't ready on time, hotel staff was not on the right page with us. Most of the discrepancies between schedule and event start times (like GoH breakfast) were due to hotel or catering staff error.
Along with the hotel, some people complain about the date. Did you notice almost every state has a furcon now? We don't have much of a window of time to keep from competing. Even at the time we chose we came 1 week after BLFC, the same weekend as ESG, and a couple or few weeks before Califur. It's hard to get a good date. We will work on it.
7. There were tons of mistakes in programming, and some sections of our volunteer stuff could have been better. We addressed a lot of this stuff before and during closing ceremonies. We didn't have a programming lead, and we didn't have the staff structure we needed to be efficient. A lot of the local community here is just hands off until something is already up and running. We acknowledge the limitations we faced, and we don't anticipate an issue for next year. Some things were not so easily avoidable, and they were not planned out well. You can chalk that up to a lack of experience from everyone, a lack of convention experience in general for many, and a lack of time to sort of figure out along the way what we might be missing. The person leading the momentum in the planning is used to a very different sort of event as he isn't furry.
Also sorry for any hurt feelings when it came to things like the talent show or fursuit dance. These things we put on for fun, not as serious competition. We underestimated just how serious some take it. Even offering prizes was last second as we hadn't intended to.
8. Friday night - We were supposed to have the room at 3 or 4pm with stage and room set up to our specifications. There was to be no other events that week in there. We arrive between 3 and 4 to find the hotel double-booked us and an event had the room until after 6pm. Our event was supposed to start between 6 and 7. Suddenly we didn't have 3 or 4 hours to set up lights and equipment. The stage wasn't even moved in until after 6. This caused a big delay. Add to that some training issues for registration, and most importantly a lack of computers and equipment (see #5), and good process, and that made the registration line crawl like a snail. We are so sorry for that, and we've learned from it.
9. Sibe - So what? Yeah we let him come to the convention. We let him have a panel. WHO CARES?! Most Furries act like he personally kicked their dog. This isn't 2008 anymore. We wanted him to come. He's a PDX area local, he's talked about often one way or another. So what if he's controversial, we didn't force anyone to interact with him. You define your con experience just as much as anything else can, and him being present didn't change anything for a single person. This is a point of irritation to me honestly. I've heard all the stories going back years. I've always been aware of him. I've met him prior, we had dinner in a group of people and had a great time, despite me having heard it all about him before.
We are a new and unbiased convention and his money is as welcome for attending as anyone else. We let him have a Q&A panel for a reason, so the curious or the critical could attend and find out what was real or not. What you hear isn't always the truth, and in fact most of the stuff about him is made up or overblown. When he came to the panel, you don't think he didn't expect questions about it? He openly, unabashedly answered and said some brave, honest, and blunt things and tried to clear up those rumors stewing since 2007.
To be honest? Everyone there had a great time at his panel and it was probably the most attended panel, even clearing out the Saturday night dance briefly, and ended with thunderous applause and proud handshakes. Furries just love to drama.
10. Viacom - This is the big one everyone is having a knee-jerk reaction to. The TV crew. I absolutely understand the concern, but I find the mob mentality to be silly. It's a game of telephone in the end, with one furry mentioning something offhand which concerns someone else who adds more urgency as they pass the info along. I'm surprised we didn't have 10 foot tall monsters with camera hands rampaging and eating those who didn't agree to sign a release. lol.
Seriously though. Take some time, ask the actual people putting things on for details, keep a cool head, be logical and not reactionary. Sounds like a good suggestion doesn't it? That's not the fandom we work with. In fact most of those people are more a danger to making the fandom look bad than anyone now just by reacting. Luckily the cameras weren't allowed to roam freely, so who was allowed to be on was limited.
Let me try to explain the situation with the TV crews again (We did at opening and closing ceremonies)
First I'm going to say this, and I know it's hard to believe, but... THE TV CREW DIDN'T CARE ABOUT YOU. They weren't there to film the attendees and make a freak show out of them. Amazing, right? No, they were there following at most TWO people who were also high level organizers for the event, Saphy primarily, and myself secondarily. They are interested in Saphy's life as a furry and more importantly our nonprofit PDXFurs and the events we host and how the fandom meshes with our normal "non unemployed-sitting-around-playing-videogames-all-day" lives.
It is for the show True Life, which does at times feature positive stories. The convention is literally for a small segment of it, like 5 or 10 minutes, and the footage they wanted specifically features behind the scenes operations of the convention. They wanted to know what it took to put on a furry convention, and logistics. They only got a few shots of actual events just to show the payoff of our work and get some events in. It was mostly just interviews between Saphy and other people, Saphy and myself, or myself and other people. The rest of the show will take place outside of anything to do with the convention.
HOW IT WORKS! We limited them extensively in what they could do, to the point that tensions between them and us flared several times in frustration. Point being we kept them restricted. Negotiations privately took place for two months between PDXFurs and Viacom reps to make sure they understood our position, our needs, the fandom, the fandom's perception of the media...etc. Then we debated for a couple or few weeks among con staff, though only reached agreement a few days beforehand. They fully understand the fears and other things. We laid out in contract several stipulations. They were always attended by a staff member, there was no free roaming random shots. Signs were always posted in event rooms when possible, or someone went ahead and informed everyone that filming was about to take place so they could leave if they wished. Random hallway shots were usually following Saphy around and took care to try and keep them close to avoid others.
If you had face time you had to sign a release. If you didn't sign a release guess what? They can't use you. They have been sued and have lost before for it, so they aren't foolish. Most of our attendees ended up actually being cool with it, signing if something happened they could take part in. Most furs that appear were recruited willingly to take part. This is a reality show, they only get what we give them. Saph and I are not "typical furs", nor are we naive or unskilled or inexperienced with business. We did not give them anything they could use against us. We even consulted with a lawyer at certain points before the con. Yes there is a small chance you could be in a background or crowd shot but again we made sure to notify people beforehand as much as possible. If someone didn't wish to appear they generally let us know, and in some cases were allowed to sign something or make a recorded statement for the editors to the effect of not giving their permission.
Again, we truly understand the concern. The Viacom crew bent over backwards for us to do this and were amazingly courteous and professional. The producer had an amazing time and really loved the furries and the fursuits. Her facebook profile pic is even her posing with suiters (she asked my permission before even setting it to that), and she took personal pics during opening ceremonies.
We are extremely confident that the fandom will get a positive light on it. Yes Viacom is known for some trashy stuff, but every cable network has it's share. Many news outlets have made positive features. Furry is becoming mainstream and part of pop culture. You can buy a hat with ears at 7-11 at this point. The negative furry show has been done, it's old news, there is no point to it when they've already covered that.
Anybody who claims Furlandia got paid or sold out is being silly. We couldn't be paid for doing reality. Saphy and I have agreed on the basis that we wish to portray a positive image of furry. Furlandia was aware, with no real time (after the decision was made) to inform the attendees beforehand and was rewarded by a $1000 donation made to our chosen charity for the year, Portland Animal Welfare Team, who was thrilled to get it. Besides the Gelato Social do you know what furries donated? $6 over the course of the weekend. And to the people who did donate a big THANK YOU, but as you can see, not many did. That would have been disappointing for the charity.
In the end, I think this will go fine, and a lot of thought went in to it. As a long time, well known fur said this weekend. Furry is going mainstream, and if we don't control our message through the media, then someone else will decide what that message is for us, but it will be made either way. What if it does go fine, will the reactionists eat their words? Of course not.
There is a strong chance they won't even use footage of the convention at all, or that the concept of the episode will be scrapped entirely and nothing about furries is done.
I'm Triss, and officially I was the Volunteer and Staff Coordinator. Probably the closest thing to Operations Director that wasn't Chairman or Vice-Chairman in reality. Atso was our Chair, Stephen what I would call vice-chair despite what he wants to say. This write-up will be unbiased as much as possible, and from an operational standpoint with insight in to all aspects of the convention and what did or did not go on.
1. The convention was a major success to us. Our numbers were 270 officially. I have no doubt that there is a little error and they were a bit higher. We had more vinyls than that and ran out Saturday evening soooo. 270 officially all the same. This was on par with some second year conventions. Rainfurrest's first year was about 330, and that was about 7 years ago with no regional conventions in the PacNW as a long standing thing really.
I always expected between 200 to 300, though decided we would be happy if we even broke 200 as it got closer. Financially the convention was more of a success than we expected and will lend to much better assets for next year's start. We made some decent profit for reinvestment. Half of the Rainfurrest board was down at one point or another, and all of them thought we did good for ourselves with hiccups that were expected.
2. We know there were problems. Very few problems can be so unnoticeable that we wouldn't be more aware than most of the attendees. Almost all of the problems can be attributed to the following things:
First year convention (find one that didn't have some snafus), bad hotel, inexperienced convention staff doing this for their first time, 4 months of planning. I will expand on some of these.
3. That 4 months of planning part. There was such little time to plan that even people that run other conventions really doubted we would be able to pull this off at all. Yes everything was rushed. The website was horrible, our publicity and promotion via social media sucked. We didn't have the infrastructure and staff structure we needed to make things easier on us. Everything happened extremely last second. I absolutely HATE how little communication we had with the community. This is NOT all the time we figured we needed, this was all the time we were given by our chair and vice-chair to make it work. Originally we jumped on to try and minimize the damage and to make sure our friend didn't bankrupt himself. It just turned in to more of a labor of passion to actually make it more than "break even" and to become a success as time went on. If you want to criticize about our lack of planning then trust me you are preaching to the choir.
4. This was our first year, year 0. Most of us have no experience running conventions, and none of us had experience running furry conventions. I probably had more furry convention attending experience than any 3 staff members put together. Even the long time "pros" of the furry convention world will tell you that most of our mistakes were the common ones made by all first year cons.
5. Not only was it first year, but we started with no money. We didn't beg the OSFCI for a financial handout, we didn't sell ourselves to some non furry entity to compromise the experience, we didn't take out loans...etc. We are all a bunch of poor-ass Portland area furs. We didn't even really have much in the way of equipment or gear to give. We had ZERO starting capital for expenses. We had to work to fund raise, or spend our own money, etc. The game room ran entirely on stuff our staff donated for use for instance.
6. The hotel was just problematic from the start, but once it really became obvious just how terrible they were, we were backed in to a corner. We had two choices; Make the best of things, or cancel the convention. If you are familiar with the history of the Portland community then I don't need to tell you how canceling the convention would have played out in dooming attempts for the future. It also raises legal questions after a point. There is -nothing- we could do about facility and hotel problems, and we suffered right along with you. My opinion, not Furlandia's, is that the hotel was complete shit. AC sucked in rooms and event spaces, the elevators sucked, the ice machines sucked, the amenities sucked, the staff screwed all sorts of things up, rooms weren't ready on time, hotel staff was not on the right page with us. Most of the discrepancies between schedule and event start times (like GoH breakfast) were due to hotel or catering staff error.
Along with the hotel, some people complain about the date. Did you notice almost every state has a furcon now? We don't have much of a window of time to keep from competing. Even at the time we chose we came 1 week after BLFC, the same weekend as ESG, and a couple or few weeks before Califur. It's hard to get a good date. We will work on it.
7. There were tons of mistakes in programming, and some sections of our volunteer stuff could have been better. We addressed a lot of this stuff before and during closing ceremonies. We didn't have a programming lead, and we didn't have the staff structure we needed to be efficient. A lot of the local community here is just hands off until something is already up and running. We acknowledge the limitations we faced, and we don't anticipate an issue for next year. Some things were not so easily avoidable, and they were not planned out well. You can chalk that up to a lack of experience from everyone, a lack of convention experience in general for many, and a lack of time to sort of figure out along the way what we might be missing. The person leading the momentum in the planning is used to a very different sort of event as he isn't furry.
Also sorry for any hurt feelings when it came to things like the talent show or fursuit dance. These things we put on for fun, not as serious competition. We underestimated just how serious some take it. Even offering prizes was last second as we hadn't intended to.
8. Friday night - We were supposed to have the room at 3 or 4pm with stage and room set up to our specifications. There was to be no other events that week in there. We arrive between 3 and 4 to find the hotel double-booked us and an event had the room until after 6pm. Our event was supposed to start between 6 and 7. Suddenly we didn't have 3 or 4 hours to set up lights and equipment. The stage wasn't even moved in until after 6. This caused a big delay. Add to that some training issues for registration, and most importantly a lack of computers and equipment (see #5), and good process, and that made the registration line crawl like a snail. We are so sorry for that, and we've learned from it.
9. Sibe - So what? Yeah we let him come to the convention. We let him have a panel. WHO CARES?! Most Furries act like he personally kicked their dog. This isn't 2008 anymore. We wanted him to come. He's a PDX area local, he's talked about often one way or another. So what if he's controversial, we didn't force anyone to interact with him. You define your con experience just as much as anything else can, and him being present didn't change anything for a single person. This is a point of irritation to me honestly. I've heard all the stories going back years. I've always been aware of him. I've met him prior, we had dinner in a group of people and had a great time, despite me having heard it all about him before.
We are a new and unbiased convention and his money is as welcome for attending as anyone else. We let him have a Q&A panel for a reason, so the curious or the critical could attend and find out what was real or not. What you hear isn't always the truth, and in fact most of the stuff about him is made up or overblown. When he came to the panel, you don't think he didn't expect questions about it? He openly, unabashedly answered and said some brave, honest, and blunt things and tried to clear up those rumors stewing since 2007.
To be honest? Everyone there had a great time at his panel and it was probably the most attended panel, even clearing out the Saturday night dance briefly, and ended with thunderous applause and proud handshakes. Furries just love to drama.
10. Viacom - This is the big one everyone is having a knee-jerk reaction to. The TV crew. I absolutely understand the concern, but I find the mob mentality to be silly. It's a game of telephone in the end, with one furry mentioning something offhand which concerns someone else who adds more urgency as they pass the info along. I'm surprised we didn't have 10 foot tall monsters with camera hands rampaging and eating those who didn't agree to sign a release. lol.
Seriously though. Take some time, ask the actual people putting things on for details, keep a cool head, be logical and not reactionary. Sounds like a good suggestion doesn't it? That's not the fandom we work with. In fact most of those people are more a danger to making the fandom look bad than anyone now just by reacting. Luckily the cameras weren't allowed to roam freely, so who was allowed to be on was limited.
Let me try to explain the situation with the TV crews again (We did at opening and closing ceremonies)
First I'm going to say this, and I know it's hard to believe, but... THE TV CREW DIDN'T CARE ABOUT YOU. They weren't there to film the attendees and make a freak show out of them. Amazing, right? No, they were there following at most TWO people who were also high level organizers for the event, Saphy primarily, and myself secondarily. They are interested in Saphy's life as a furry and more importantly our nonprofit PDXFurs and the events we host and how the fandom meshes with our normal "non unemployed-sitting-around-playing-videogames-all-day" lives.
It is for the show True Life, which does at times feature positive stories. The convention is literally for a small segment of it, like 5 or 10 minutes, and the footage they wanted specifically features behind the scenes operations of the convention. They wanted to know what it took to put on a furry convention, and logistics. They only got a few shots of actual events just to show the payoff of our work and get some events in. It was mostly just interviews between Saphy and other people, Saphy and myself, or myself and other people. The rest of the show will take place outside of anything to do with the convention.
HOW IT WORKS! We limited them extensively in what they could do, to the point that tensions between them and us flared several times in frustration. Point being we kept them restricted. Negotiations privately took place for two months between PDXFurs and Viacom reps to make sure they understood our position, our needs, the fandom, the fandom's perception of the media...etc. Then we debated for a couple or few weeks among con staff, though only reached agreement a few days beforehand. They fully understand the fears and other things. We laid out in contract several stipulations. They were always attended by a staff member, there was no free roaming random shots. Signs were always posted in event rooms when possible, or someone went ahead and informed everyone that filming was about to take place so they could leave if they wished. Random hallway shots were usually following Saphy around and took care to try and keep them close to avoid others.
If you had face time you had to sign a release. If you didn't sign a release guess what? They can't use you. They have been sued and have lost before for it, so they aren't foolish. Most of our attendees ended up actually being cool with it, signing if something happened they could take part in. Most furs that appear were recruited willingly to take part. This is a reality show, they only get what we give them. Saph and I are not "typical furs", nor are we naive or unskilled or inexperienced with business. We did not give them anything they could use against us. We even consulted with a lawyer at certain points before the con. Yes there is a small chance you could be in a background or crowd shot but again we made sure to notify people beforehand as much as possible. If someone didn't wish to appear they generally let us know, and in some cases were allowed to sign something or make a recorded statement for the editors to the effect of not giving their permission.
Again, we truly understand the concern. The Viacom crew bent over backwards for us to do this and were amazingly courteous and professional. The producer had an amazing time and really loved the furries and the fursuits. Her facebook profile pic is even her posing with suiters (she asked my permission before even setting it to that), and she took personal pics during opening ceremonies.
We are extremely confident that the fandom will get a positive light on it. Yes Viacom is known for some trashy stuff, but every cable network has it's share. Many news outlets have made positive features. Furry is becoming mainstream and part of pop culture. You can buy a hat with ears at 7-11 at this point. The negative furry show has been done, it's old news, there is no point to it when they've already covered that.
Anybody who claims Furlandia got paid or sold out is being silly. We couldn't be paid for doing reality. Saphy and I have agreed on the basis that we wish to portray a positive image of furry. Furlandia was aware, with no real time (after the decision was made) to inform the attendees beforehand and was rewarded by a $1000 donation made to our chosen charity for the year, Portland Animal Welfare Team, who was thrilled to get it. Besides the Gelato Social do you know what furries donated? $6 over the course of the weekend. And to the people who did donate a big THANK YOU, but as you can see, not many did. That would have been disappointing for the charity.
In the end, I think this will go fine, and a lot of thought went in to it. As a long time, well known fur said this weekend. Furry is going mainstream, and if we don't control our message through the media, then someone else will decide what that message is for us, but it will be made either way. What if it does go fine, will the reactionists eat their words? Of course not.
There is a strong chance they won't even use footage of the convention at all, or that the concept of the episode will be scrapped entirely and nothing about furries is done.
The major thing I worry about viacom being a presence is the fallout. Furries *do* love some drama, and if the episode airs and it's not a glowing ass-pat filled happy dance talking about how awesome the fandom is, there will likely be some fallout from people both in and outside of the portland groups. I had a lot of fun at the con, and I'd hate to see the "OH MY GOSH, THAT WAS THE CON THAT HAD MTV AT IT." thing torpedo further successes.
You guys did a hell of a job considering what you were up against and the time frame you were working in. Thanks again for putting together a con in our back yard :)
If it does come out, the stuff should be good. At least as far as the convention goes. I can't speak for Saphy when they film his personal life though :P
This was Dobe's and my first convention, like I mentioned to Saphy. And I told Saphy each time I saw him he was doing a great job and we were fully enjoying ourselves.
As for the cameras, when the last thing people hear about the media is that they are "not allowed and will be escorted out," that is what people expect to happen. Even considering that the agreement to allow Viacom into the con occurred a mere few days before the opening day, someone could have posted at least something to the twitter account or main site reporting the policy change and explaining the circumstances. If you really understood the concern the fandom has surrounding the media, why was nothing done? It could have at least mitigated some of the rumors and misunderstandings. I'm glad the camera crew was so accommodating at the very least.
As a footnote, that hotel shafted you. Hope you can find a better venue next time, and good luck.
As for the MTV thing, in the end I like a lot of staff sort of took a step back. While I was even a subject of the camera crew at times I wouldn't lead them in to the hotel without the chair or Saphy as I wanted no responsibility for it, so I left that between them to argue. In fact I skipped our last planning meeting the wednesday before the con since they were present there until I had a chance to meet privately with the producer and lay out clarifications on what was to happen or not.
If you look, our last site news update was like March, which is unacceptable. One person had control of the site, and for whatever reason fell down on the job. The same for social media. That's another "preaching to the choir" thing for me, and my number one issue to fix for next year.
And I guess the way legally that the wording in the policy was circumvented for the brief time cameras were around was that signage was generally posted where filming was happening, and anyone in the space at that time was notified filming was about to take place. I know I personally spoke to dozens of people letting them know, helping them hide out of shot for a moment, asking if they were really ok with being on camera when they stayed and letting them know they are under no pressure to say yes, that no was alright, and of course reminding the crew who had said no already anytime that person was near.
To be honest a majority of filming was either outside, off site, or in our suite. None of it was random, we always told them where they can and can not shoot at that moment.
The simple fact of the matter is that the apparent concern most of the attendees had with Viacom was that they were simply there at all, combined with the fact that nobody knew that they were going to be there, or what their goal was. That falls again on the shoulders of whoever was in charge of public relations / publicity.
Hopefully there will be more crew members with a new and dedicated leader placed on that project, with more check-ins from the leadership team to prevent these problems in the future.
It's nice to know that's at the top of your list of things to fix.
We all appreciate the patience and any forgiveness people are willing to give us so we can make it work. I'm hoping we can secure our next hotel in the coming weeks so we can announce it and get the ball rolling on restoring a bit of confidence. The place we have our eye on is fantastic as far as I've heard from people who know about those things. We plan to collaborate with another convention to some small degree, or at least key members of it.
I'm going to push for a team of website content developers so we can get something pro level published, and I'm going to suggest a team for our social media. I didn't even have the log in, but was posting more frequently with tags and hashtags up to the start of the con.
It was a bit of a shitshow in some aspects with 4 months planning, but now that we have the groundwork already laid out, I think we could do some amazing things with a whole year, and some additional help.:)
For long time Portland members, it's a bit amazing that it happened in any capacity. Which is why we might pat ourselves on the back a bit more. It's been an uphill battle in this particular community going on 10 years probably. No one thought it could be done.
I think most of the shock about the film crews was the fact that it was stated there definitely wouldn't be any on the official twitter account, but they were following staff :p
If it was due to not having enough money.. the con should have waited another year. The moment you guys settled on that hotel was the cons major downfall. Out of my patron membership, besides the tshirt/badge i had to beg for all weekend, it was like i got a normal membership. I almost feel like asking for a refund. Essentially i paid $120 for a tshirt, badge and membership. And i wouldn't have even received the tshirt/badge had i not bugged and bugged con staff about them all weekend. I know patron memberships are just that, to fund for the con. But had i known i wouldn't be getting any of the perks that was listed, i wouldn't have done it.
And just what forceuser posted above me, on furlandia's twitter they outright lied to us. They said no media is allowed and denied any claims about MTV being there.
Well they sure were!
I can speak for some of the reasons we had chosen the "stair hotel". Before we had lost contact with our previously assigned hotel liaison, it was understood that the hotel was going to be offered to us at a rate that was affordable at that point. As mentioned, staff had to raise the funds for the entirety of the convention themselves within a very limited time frame. In order to make the convention happen, and to not forever doom the credit of one of our brave staff leads, this year's Chair, Atso, who put his bank account on the line, we had to find a hotel that had the timeframe open, was within our limited budget, and could get us accommodation and a contract in such short notice. The major oversight of the hotel having so many stairs was likely due to the inexperience of the staff member who originally found the hotel: the non-furry Second Chair. He had had experience planning many conventions before, which is why we relied on him for his experience, but it was our misfortune that he did not understand the needs of the furry community with some key details. He did not know about fursuits or their limited vision and balance. To be fair, there were operational elevators on both ends of the building, but without clear signage, many fursuiters did not know about the elevators. By the time the other members of staff took a look at this hotel which had been touted as convenient and adequate for our needs and varying restrictions, planning for our convention to be hosted there and advertisement for it had been too far along. We might have ended up without a hotel at all. You suggest that we should have waited a year, but, then, personally, I wonder...would the community have dealt with that well? Furlandia might not have gotten off its feet at all. For myself, I greatly apologize for the risks attendees bravely dealt with concerning the stairs and wish that people would have used the elevators rather than take those risks. Next year we will have had enough time to find a hotel safer, with more noticeable elevators, and hopefully with more understanding that we need ample air conditioning (I asked them to turn it up, and apparently they only did so in my own panel room :( ) It's just one of the many things we need to look into.
I find it strange that you did not receive your sponsor swag Saturday, but I know nothing of its delivery. The shirts I printed were delivered to the con when I arrived at eight am the first day of the convention (I did not attend the pre-party on Friday). You would have to ask about the delivery timing, if you are that curious as to reasoning, but hopefully you received all of your swag before the convention ended, and if not, I am sure that the rest will be mailed to you. We were very grateful for our sponsors, since it was people like you who very much helped make Furlandia happen.
Also, as far as I know, the media wasn't there for filming the community, per se, but more focused on the life of an attendee who happened to be a key staff member of the convention. That is what I have come to understand, anyway.
I was against it at first, and all of us told Atso that it was not a smart idea, but it was going ahead regardless. I was an extreme critic of things though until I went to a public meeting, got my questions answered, and somehow got roped in to helping plan. From there like I said we just wanted to work to try and break even and keep our friend, who was personally financially liable, from bankrupting his young ambitious self. So unfortunately it was was 4 months instead of 16 months. We only wanted him to break even, but as it went on it seemed that things might pick up more momentum, which it did.
I do not know how extensively Atso toured the hotel. The rest of us only saw the main function space and honestly it seemed alright to me and better than I had expected we would end up with. Also I doubt anyone toured a sampling of rooms. My room and the staff lounge room were both in good shape, but it quickly was apparent the hotel hasn't been remodeled since like the 60's. I'm appalled to hear so many stories of how bad some rooms were, and I wish people had come to us operations staff, because that's one more thing we would have went off on to the hotel.
I'm also really sorry to hear about the patron perk issues, that too is a bit appalling to me. That was also a con chair thing. In the end a lot of communication was not done by staff even to each other. To be fair, we just weren't prepared for how many more hands we needed, and I guess we weren't prepared to actually succeed by as much as we did. All of it will be fixed by next year, and we will be having help from other conventions to some extent most likely in helping is iron out our issues.
This was pretty much a "do it yourself" indie fur con, but there was a bit too much indie.
As for the media thing, I responded a bit above.
The stairs did kind of suck, there were some dysfunctional elevators at each end of the hotel yes. Really though Portland has like maybe 6 or 7 fursuiters in the area I think, and we didn't expect how many out of towners would come, so we kind of thought we'd just have a handful of suiters if you catch my meaning. We are getting a much better place next year we hope, and it's one highly recommended by staff of another furry convention. We shall have to see.
The hotel wasn't that great at all. Why the air conditioning weren't turned on in the guest rooms was beyond me. The pool was closed on one the warmest weeks in Portland this year. I'm glad the decision was to make the best of things. I rather be disappointed in a poor standards hotel than be disappointed in a local furcon cancellation. Definitely need to find a new venue next year.
It was great seeing Stephen Couchman (from HowlCon) this year and helping out!
Since journal entries on FA have a half life of hydrogen-7, I've put up my point of view on this debacle at https://plus.google.com/b/115345777.....ts/9bwQ2QyEw9T — the MTV issue will likely affect me directly as the spokesperson for a large European furry convention — and I really could do without the additional work and the misconceptions I'll have to deal with.
Thank you for posting your own thoughts!
There were things that could have been better organized, but that's always how things go, its not the end times. I'd still want to help out were I could. I definitely went over my hours for helping that were required, but it was seriously not hard work to, and I'm a weirdo because it's fun for me to do.
I sponsored and volunteered, but my only critical thing to that was essentially all I received was a normal badge that said sponsor on it. The social events I was supposed to be let into, were during my shift and I wasn't too concerned with it to be honest.
People looked way too stressed over scheduling for me to really bother with something I could make from scratch at home :3 ...but I was hoping for something a little more memorable for sponsoring like what you get at FC. LOL even a ribbon or something :p Not really just a free entry to something that costs the amount of a beer, and doesn't stick around afterwards.
The friends that didn't go, really didn't because of the sibe thing, yadayada, I think it was cool to have that panel in a way, I didn't go because I don't want to get involved with fur drama/don't give a crap at all about famous furs. I was glad to hear it wasn't a total madhouse with tar and feathers.
As for the filming, the only thing I wasn't thrilled about was them filming the dance. They really should have filmed a staged dance, with only people who signed releases or were willing to be filmed like a few minutes before the actual dance, all they need is footage to splice together, not IRL events like the dance. Not because they care about us, but because the dancers I talked to, were kinda pissed. I know I would rather not have my fat pale-bootied girl in shorts ghetto dance moves in the background, least I turn into another meme like she did: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v.....sMoshzilla.jpg
Other dancers also were on that page. "I don't want to look like an asshole flailing my arms in the background" was the vibe.
Otherwise, was fun, I enjoyed it and had lots of feedback and interest in my art. Which was my plan. *thumbs up*
I'm super glad to hear you had fun though.
As for the dance thing, ideally yes we originally wanted a staged dance, but it just didn't materialize time-wise. On Saturday the producer and a couple volunteers went in to the dance and informed people filming would happen. I know many people left briefly for it, though it's possible more might have slipped in or someone was missed in informing, it's possible. We also rounded up as many fursuiters in the headless lounge and had them either sign releases or wait it out a little, which many willingly signed and thought it was great. We had some people request not to appear and we made it known and got them to write a statement for it when applicable. The cameras also could not catch more than 6 feet away with the low light, even with their lighting gear, so anything outside of 6 feet is safe, which we verified with their viewfinder. Then of course after that we figure anyone concerned from that point would move out of the way until they finished. Overall the process of them being there was less than 10 minutes I believe, maybe even less.
Sorry again though, it ended up just a big cluster. While I am sure the footage will be positive, it may not even be used, so more and more just based on the fact it might have been for nothing and how much trouble personally and convention-wise it was, we regret doing it somewhat.
THANK YOU for writing this and communicating. Are you a Communications major or something? Seriously: communications are a GOOD thing. I know you get it - you've said it a few times now.
All in all, the complaints are relatively minor and only for a few things. The majority of what I have heard has been positive, except for a few (Mostly Twitter) feeds from a few people. I'm sorry they weren't happy. I'm sorry they are being negative (And somewhat vocal) about things. However, you can't please everyone all the time. Do your best (And it sounds like you guys did fairly well).
Was it perfect? No. Was it terrible? No. Will I come again next year? Yes, if Furlandia follows through on the communication thing and get a better hotel/venue. Did I have fun? Yes. Do I wish it was bigger? Yes.
Seriously though, thanks. I had a good time and want to come again next year, even though I'm a 30-something that knows almost NO ONE there but a few of the artists and other big-name personalities. I don't party any more. I don't fit in to the "Typical" furry stereotype. I'm generally a positive and yet realistic, grounded person. And I had fun. Keep it up - you already know where you (Er, the con in general) need to improve. :^)
Oh yeah - suiters really add a great deal to a furry con. Super cool! I felt like a kid on his first trip to Disney Land!
Communications major? Nah. Haha. I'm just a so so writer and a bit long winded.
"When he came to the panel, you don't think he didn't expect questions about it? He openly, unabashedly answered and said some brave, honest, and blunt things and tried to clear up those rumors stewing since 2007. "
Right, because no one with a potential counterpoint who has actual proof of wrongdoing, on paper, could even stand to be in the same room as the guy, especially in light of the convention not only giving him not only a "Q&A Panel", but judging a dance competition of some kind?
Stop drinking the kool-aid. The guy thrives on his own infamy and directed a lot of these rumors himself to increase the infamy. What he's done going back over a decade that's particularly provable on paper is grossly detestable, and I'm sure the way he answered questions about the people he victimized includes his own slant about how it's all a witch-hunt, and all about his victims "abusing the legal system", engaging in victim-blaming, rationalization of his behavior. His victims have included:
1) Portland's Heald College, for bringing a shotgun onto grounds with a proper license. This was a felony.
2) Brian, a room-mate in his 50's who he attacked and broke glass bottles all over the floor to prevent him from escaping (this was documented in the police report). This resulted in a felony coercion charge in which he was convicted. That probation, which should have expired in 2005, went all the way to 2009 due to various absconding from orders and failures to comply with the probation.
3) Me, when he goes through varying desires and points in his life, desires to continue reaching out to contact me in particular. Despite 3 different orders of protection against him over the last 8 years (and a current criminal one issued through a municipal court on my behalf), he still thought it OK to reach out to me over IM. He's currently on probation for violating one of the civil orders (which expired due to the criminal one being in effect).
4) A then 17 year old girl who he decided to "endanger" by having unprotected sex with her. He was convicted of doing that, but avoided a sex offender registration because he plead guilty to the intentional exposure of his HIV infection to the 17 year old, rather than the sex crime.
The only reason he hasn't gone to prison is because of a combination of state criminal justice systems unwilling to expend funds in light of continual set of budget crisis after budget crisis in state and local governments. It also helps that he has pretty good paid for lawyers by a third party rather than the public defender system.
It's one thing to have a slate of things as a minor, or one particularly bad screwup as an adult once. We're also not talking about drug offenses, or urban exploring, either.
I've had the particular displeasure of having to keep track of him through the criminal justice system entries because if he violates my orders of protection and starts with the unwanted contact again, I have to be able to show history of what he's done to me and others.
The convention gave platform to someone who has been, for the last 15 years, assaulted and battered room-mates, stalked & made unwanted contacts with people, and failed to disclose his HIV status to a 17 year old girl. That doesn't even include the various times people have reported sexual assaults and inappropriate touching (3 year old girl according to the audio recording of one of his probation violations in 2006, her father was deported shortly after the report).
Furlandia made the cardinal mistake of involving someone so repellent in anything involving the con. Rumors are ridiculous, yes, but the truth of what he actually does is quite horrifying. How much goodwill did the con burn doing something so atrociously stupid? Why is it the convention's responsibility to provide him an exclusive and unchallenged platform to "dispel rumors"?
Like any criminal sociopath with poor impulse control, you *should* be afraid of him. However, as typical of many fandoms out there (geeky culture of over-acceptance and over-inclusion), many of you won't be until he does something bad to you and yours.
While my hope is that he won't harm someone again, history & his compulsions will crush that hope. I only hope that if does do something wrong to you & yours, that you don't hide in self-loathing & shame for years and immediately report, get evidence immediately, and deal with the issue. I wish I had the first time around.
Saph would say it was just to troll him since he never shows up at conventions. Well he did, and we didn't exactly expect it. He didn't show until like 10 minutes before the panel. It was a Q&A because... What else would be more interesting when it comes to him? Most don't know enough factual specifics to have asked him about them probably.
All that aside, my statements are not so much as to what he has or has not done (because let's face it, most rumors at least have a grain of truth, I'm not naive). It's more to the fact that we are an unbiased entity, and despite the calls of outrage or outcry or "you should have given warning"... No, he's just a man like all the rest of us. He was an attendee, his money is worth the same, he has the same right to our open programming, his presence likely affects next to no one. Now again, I'm aware, I've talked with Aloha about how you feel about him and likely him having come to Furlandia, and I understand. 95% or more wouldn't know him if they saw him though, and most of that 95% don't want him there under false pretenses from just rumors. So we aren't going to exclude someone from an event being run by a business unless he's done something that warrants it from us specifically. I'm sure you understand the reasoning there.
There are several immensely popular furries across the nation whom shall go unnamed that I'm sure people would love banned just from the nature of their purported attitudes, but all the same those people like anyone else would be welcome until they've worn out that privilege.
I just find the circumstances for most people's reactions or behavior to be irrational and hype based. In your case I understand your reasoning.
That's all I'm getting at. The level of irrationality that went in to peoples complaints in regards to why we would have the stance we do. We can't take a stance in things. We can't ban or exclude others without being given a fair reason as to how they intentionally abused our event.