I'm looking forward to the XBOX One and the PS4 sooo much. Especially now I know they be working on Star Wars Battlefront 3.

The ONLY reason I would ever buy a console, SW:BF3.

lol I might get a PS4...but I'm unsure....

I honestly love xbox360.

But I refuse to buy Xbone.

I am going straight to sony. They won me over once again since my childhood. But i will never own a ps4.

Those prices are waaayyy to fucking high for me.

I want to like your comment a million times.

Fucking Oddworld
That is all

im getting both but im going for ps4 first, and only get the xbox one for the few friends who are die hard xbox fans.
*that and kingdom hearts 3 is coming out on ps4 X3*

umm don't forget about there server being hackable. Gee thanks Sony for the server issuses when you get hack and have to shut down for 3 months

Xbox ONE, MGS looks damn sweet along with some other games but you have to wait a month for the DLC packs on PS4 and be jelly of friends for playing on the new maps first before you. Xbox ONE still gets my vote though the PS4 looks like a new Blu-Ray player and will cost an arm and a leg to get again like the PS3 was

none of that matters to me really, the fact the ps4 dont block used games and dont spy on you is enough sell for me.

Imagen if "becouse they will someone already have" the xbox one gets hacked, sense the mic and camera is always on, that is 10000% times worse if ya ask me.

you can have the kinetic to not watch you and such not to mention Microsoft respects your privacy where as the PS4 well just take a look at what happen to the PS3 and the servers everyone details could be seen credit card details could be take and such you could be missing money and land in dept without knowing it. I'm speaking with detail info at my finger tips and notes on what is happening which i can't show cause of what I do for Microsoft. Plus don't you get sick of people bring in a guest when you're trying to get your friends into online match's with the Xbox ONE that person that is trying to have a guest in can't have one cause the Kinetic will only know the person using the console. Also the PS4 console design is not good for air flow and such the controller is a knock off from Nintendo's Wii U controller, you have to use you're real name if you want to log into the PS4 server.

A number of things can go and will go wrong with the PS4 if everyone knew you're real name and then started sending you harassment message's via social network websites and such. Has Sony ever done anything to protect you're privacy and online usage for you or have something that you can use on your iPod Touch, iPad, iPhone and any other Smartphone out there. take SPARK which is going to be awesome and well used with the smartphones and Apple devices. Does SONY have an app where you can control you console with the device and such or have a Smart-match for getting you into games quicker and faster. Answer to my questions are yes and no, yes there is an app for checking things on you're account but it doesn't allow you to use the device to control things on the console. No for the smart-match and such, plus no DVR so you can't record you match or best kills to show case you're epic win in online match's or that you can share with Twitch LIVE online while your playing or share with you're friends more content and more files. Does PS4 allow you to connect with all you're friends that you play with the most online?

You act as if the Xbox servers are perfect. People have experienced hacks as well. Also, if you can turn off the Kinect then what's the point of bundling it with the system? Me and a lot of people aren't going to use that thing. Why should we pay extra for something we may not use. Also, Shadow lives in Europe. So a lot those fancy TV features will not work for him.

"The controller is a knock off from the Wii U controller." You mean the big tablet looking device? You think the PS4 controller copied the Wii U tablet all because of a touch pad? Ok, then the Wii U tablet copied The PSP.

Get into games quicker? Set the system to start the game the second I turn on the console or plug in a disk. There we go. No need for a smartphone.

You also keep mentioning smart glass even though those features don't really matter in the sense of a gaming console. Also, yes, PS3 and 4 does have smart glass. The PS4 can connect with your friends online, and it does have built in DVR. PS4 has the ability to stream your games. Something Sony announced before Microsoft.

The biggest problem people have with the Xbox isn't the TV, Movie, and Sports features they're trying to push. It isn't even the Kinect. It's all the restrictions that the console has towards gaming. Requires internet every 24 hours. If your internet drops then it will stop playing games all together for both single player and multiplayer games. If you log onto your account at a friends house it checks the internet every hour. Must install the game to the hard drive. Making that 500GB, non-replaceable hard drive fill up quick. Can only loan games under two requirements. 1. They must be in your friends list for more than 30 days. 2. The game can only be loaned once. If these two requirements aren't met, then there will be a fee. Then there's the possibility that the Kinect is needed in order for the system to function properly.

These pointless restrictions are why gamers are turned off by the system. Gaming was obviously put on the back burner to make way for all the TV, Movie, and Sports features that Microsoft tried to push so hard.

they are looking at the things that need to be addressed so you could say it's a trail of the the 24 hour internet connection and lending games out to friends. Also if you look at the PS4 closely you'll notice that its way bigger than it needs to me, you have to many stuff that needs to be plugged into it.

I swear Sony is trying to build their Gaming PC cause they are only good at music and movie's, where as Microsoft as been doing this for years with the computers and working together with the game dev's to bring more games to the player to play and to have a PS+ membership just to play online is a big down fall cause you would need to play all you're Call of Duty games and any other game that you can take online. I see the PS+ membership as a waste of money where they only give so many non-full games and give you mini's to play or take with you on PSP and PSP Vita. Microsoft to free full games from the marketplace starting with Assassin's Creed II and HALO 3 from July 1st, even though you can get FABLE III right now to download for free via the website.

Does SONY offer you anything for watching trailers and such or taking part in questioner's to earn you points to go towards that DLC you want, no they don't where as Microsoft does with their Xbox LIVE Rewards program. Re-new Xbox LIVE GOLD 200 MS Points, get something for you're birthday as a gift or anything else. not to mention the CPU in Xbox one is 8 core x86 processor which has more power than the PS4's CPU.

Also I'm looking at the system's design of the PS4 and I hate why to bluckly and over sized, looks like a paper weight, is as heavy as 6 bricks put to together and the server will be hacked within the first 4 months its out resulting in a closure of the server's for about 3 months which means you're details can be anyone's by the time they get the server back up and running and you're lefted without playing online or downloading the new DLC for CoD Ghost or that one game you have just gotten.

Microsoft offer a better server and connection for games and CoD GHOST DLC first before PS4 and PC which get it a month after the Xbox LIVE community and you're thinking to yourself 'Shut up before I pound you into the desk' while listening to you're friends going on about what they like in the maps.

Microsoft wins SONY can just go back to movies and music also I'm not being rude but that is the fact's if anyone bother to watch the Microsoft Conference and only wanted to watch the Playstation Conference. Sony's reveal in Feb was the controller and no console, Microsoft's Reveal Xbox ONE console, controller and what it can do instead of just talking about and showing off games while talking about the game itself along with some preview game play and such. Before anyone says I haven't the Sony's Conference of their new console I have watched it thank you and the only thing I want for PS3 is DIABLO III.

Too much stuff to plug in? It will be no different than the PS3 or 360. You'll just need two cords. One to plug into the TV, and one to plug into the outlet. That's it. Where did you get the idea that you needed more plugs? The controllers are wireless, the system can synch to your internet wirelessly, and the PS eye will be sold separately.

Sony's trying to build a gaming PC? Microsoft's policies on games for the X1 are closer to the PC than the PS4. Installing the disk to the hard drive. Tied to a single account. Unable to properly lend your friend you games without you being there. Most likely reactivation fees. These are things that exist on a PC today. Also, your PS+ kind of tells me you've never used the service. If you did you'd know that you get a slue of full games. PS+ gives you those games for free or at a discount. I managed to get Watch Dogs for free. Also, the free games are constantly switching each month. For the PSP and Vita, there aren't just mini's. There are full games for those systems to that you can get for free or at a discount.

Since when did the look of the console ever matter in terms of sales? When has a winner of a console war ever won buy the look of the system? Besides, you're not going to be looking at the console when you're looking at the screen to play the games. Yes, we poke fun at the look and laugh but it's not serious.

We don't need points to buy stuff because the PSN takes real money. You're comment about the X1's processor shows me that you did little research on the PS4. If you did, you'd know that the PS4 and the X1 has the same 8 core x86 processor. It's also widely accepted that the PS4 is actually a tad more powerful than the X1. With the PS4's 8 gigs of GDDR5 RAM to X1's 8 gigs of DDR3 RAM. Though that really doesn't matter since it's only by a little.

I could honest care less about timed DLC. So you get it first, doesn't matter. I'll be getting it in a month. I have can wait until then. Besides, timed DLC doesn't determine whether or not to buy a console for that game. The only time when DLC will sway someone to buying a console for multi-platform games is exclusive DLC. DLC that can only be obtained on that certain platform. PS4 will have exclusive DLC's for Assassin's Creed 4, Watch Dogs, The Division, and Destiny. All of which are games that have been hyped for gamers, especially Destiny and Watch Dogs. When these games come out I can brag to my X1 friends who have the games how I have certain things that they'll never get.

People watched the Microsoft's E3 conference. Everyone agrees that Microsoft made improvement from their first conference. They showed the games and talked about the games. The Xbox One reveal conference only focused on what it can do in terms of TV, Movies, and Sports. That was the focus the May reveal. It hardly showed anything in terms of games. The only big thing with games they showed was Call of Duty, which we already knew it was coming. Sony's February announcement, though disappointing, focused on what everyone tuned in to see. The games. Sony showed off what the system can do in terms of gaming, they showed off the controller, then it was nothing but games. It was enough to tease everyone for E3. Microsoft's E3 conference was good, but Sony pulled ahead just by a bit. It was all those restrictions on the X1 that Microsoft didn't address. That was their downfall for E3.

Xbox ONE has 8GB DDR5 ram too just shows how much you console info on the Xbox ONE is out of date. Destiny and Watch Dogs are on both consoles so how about you look at the info and then compare the consoles and you'll see the PS4 is nothing but a six brick made console that looks like a paper weight. All the restrictions to play online with PS4 is the with PS+ membership you need to play online with friends, I don't need to spend $100 AUS dollars each year for the membership on PS4 to play games online

DDR5 ram doesn't exist yet. Also, outdated info? Uploaded 10 hours ago: http://tech2.in.com/features/consol.....ation-4/876170

Again, PS4, and PS3 for that matter, will have exclusive content for Destiny and Watch Dogs. Which means that the system will receive downloadable content that Xbox One, 360, and PC will not be able to get. There's the incentive to buy the games on the PS4. It's kind of funny how you think exclusive content is nothing when you were praising COD's time exclusives for Xbox.

Yes, I will give you the online thing. I think it's kind of messed up. Though it really doesn't effect me since I'm already a PS+ member. Even though it's kind of a dick move, the PS+ has given some good service. Plus, you get a free launch title for signing up for PS+, Drive Club. That's a $60 game you're getting. So on the first year it's already paid for itself. On top of that you getting a slew of free games ranging from PS1, 2, and 3 games. As well as PS4 games when they drop, or at least a discount. So it's quite a deal. Also, you're saying that you don't want to spend $100 Aus each for membership on PS4 but you're willing to do it for Xbox? Also, why are you getting an X1 if you live in Australia? Most of those TV features will not work for you for the first couple of years in the X1's launch.

you haven't uploaded anything to your FA gallery and such so I wouldn't trust anything that comes out of your mouth and another thing my info was updated when I posted my reply which means that info you have is now old and outdated I get the info straight from the sources for the company I do work for and seeing as I can't say much on the updates I would advise you to shut you're tarp and don't harp and harp on and on about stuff you don't know about, DO I MAKE SELF CLEAR ON THAT.

PS+ $100 over 5 years is $500, Xbox LIVE Gold $70-$80 over 5 years equals about $350 to $400 do the damn math and than tell me who has has the best price for yearly membership

you xbox fanboys are gonna be considered a dying breed this new gen lol! just saying

so are you Playstation Fanboy's too when Nintendo gets wind of SONY copping one of their consoles and the PS4 design looks like the baby of both Nintendo Wii and Wii U. Where's the air flow and such how is it going to be kept cool why does it look bigger then the Xbox ONE and the other console's.

my PC blows both console out of the water so I don't really care and I've never really cared about nintendo lol

"PS4 looks like a new Blu-Ray player and will cost an arm and a leg to get again like the PS3 was"
Whoa, hold up their homes. Why are you, in a debate of XBoxOne vs PS4, complaining about the PS4's price tag? Granted 400 bones is a pretty penny, but need I remind you the Xbox one is 500 smackers. That's 20% more than it's competitor.

Now I got nothing against people liking the new Xbox. People like what they like. And truth be told I'll likely end up with all three eventually like I did with the current cycle. But calling out Sony's price when Microsoft is charging more is some real faulty logic.

did you hear about you needing a PS+ Membership just to play games online with the PS4

How is this any different from Microsoft's Xbox Live Gold? Aside from the fact that PS+ gives you free games and XBLA Gold gives you some kinda of NFL package. Honestly I'd like to know, I have an older 360 that wasn't wifi-compatable out of the box, so I never hooked the damn thing up, so I have no experience with how XBLA works. But from everything I'm seeing on their website it's not that much different than the PSN+. Am I missing something here?

you have to have a PS+ Membership to play Call of Duty GHOST online. Xbox LIVE silver account free, PS3 online gaming free <- Sony has moved away from free online gaming to pay-to-play fee's. Xbox LIVE GOLD members get two free games each month on the 1st and 16th (The Walking Dead Arcade game was free and FABLE III full game is free until June 30th via the website)

XBLA is just that arcade games Xbox LIVE gold is a cheaper then Sony's PS+ payment. even though you have the old white or black Xbox 360 you should be able to get a wireless adapter for it but there is a newer Xbox 360 out too

Hey, Magetorment. Did Stagish block you too?

Xboxone doesn't spy on you. There's multiple ways plus possible mods to use to disable the need of the kinect and still be able to. Use the console.

I can understand the need for 24hr checks for the system to be online. Due to the fact the console is able to play for you when your offline. Now my belief is you don't need to have it constantly connected to play the games, just to have the cloud function and memory play. Besides if you have it connected and have like 5 mins free when your not going to play the system you can just turn it on and let it check to stay connected so its not bad.

The used game thing isn't totally bad. There's ways around that or will be soon.

Other then that the game line up is incredible and I can't wait to see what else comes up and out for it. Plus I'll probably be working with this gen consoles (what's now the next gen) and possibly the next gen consoles if there are any after these since I'm going into game design.

Agreed

PS4 isn't:
Being rediculous about used games/staying online/letting people lend out games etc. (Basically it's making up for XBOX1 's fails)
Has already shown us 2 TIMES the games almost.

And for once I am going with PS4. I am so excited.


And for the comment above, ANY server is hack-able. Period. And while they did take a while to get back into things, they still did the best they could with what happened. I have no hate, they get my vote this year.

^

xbox 360 had 7 exlusive titles " aka only games for thier consul"

ps3 had 27.

yeah..i do belive they owned that pretty much. and they will own this too.

LOL microsoft just had thier conferance and ps3 just had thiers..i suggest ya watch those and then get back to me xP

Wha? Normally I don't get involved in console debates but you sir have piqued my interest. How, pray tell, do you figure the PS3 was, quote, 'quite a failure'?

Don't forget PS4 is a hundred dollars LESS than Xbox One in price.

If I join the upcoming console generation, the choice is easy. GO SONY!

With me its costs and my bad internet connections i have that win me over for the PS4. its gonna be good to go back to the ps4 after one heck of a long time. i still have my old ps2 and games for it. ^^_

why people is saying that xbox one dont support used games, from what i understand the only things that used games will cause is for developer be able to charge retailers and thats it.

xbox one this is good http://gengame.net/2013/06/microsof.....-for-xbox-one/
this is bad http://gengame.net/2013/06/official.....very-24-hours/
and the reason i will not buy it for 1 or 2 years is no consoles have ever been with no problems the first years

http://gengame.net/2013/06/microsof.....-for-xbox-one/ correct link

xbox one is making it so if you tried to borrow your friends disk to play a game then that friend would have to pay extra money to microsoft in order to play that game

with that you can say goodbye to gamefly, gamestop, and mom and pop used games stop.

look at the link it says completely the contrary

im going off of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ekOtn7L1N0

and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryB-hdtpQRw

the first video was outdated, but the second i understand that, but still im not gonna judge a console till it came out many thing can change im not gonna buy either the ps4 or xbox one for at least a year or two since those first time console always come with so much crap like the ps3 and is 600 dollars or the xbox an its rings of death, im just saying that to me that 10 family looks promising but true no one know how it works so i wait and see and i just hope in the case that xbox one stays suckish, that ps4 didnt screw up its system like ps3 have.

I'm either going to make my own gaming PC or get the new ps4. I'm a bit stuck between the two.

Xbox One can shove it, even though there were some games I really wanted to play, oh well!

Wii-U:

Plays used games,
No Always Online DRM,
No HAL9000 survalence,
Can play games offline,
Has some good launch titles like NSMB-U and will soon have a 3D Mario, Smash Bros, and Pikmin game,
Won't burn your budget,
Free online play,
Backwards compatible,
Will play COD games if you like em + on a proper controller,
I can list more things if you'd like.

Basically, everyone has friendzoned the Wii-U for no real reason, everything you complain about when you talk about XBO and PS4, well the Wii-U doesn't have those problems, there's no reason to sideline it so hard.

it has no games. thats the reason.

there is only 3 games that are being talked about on this thing, up coming Zelda , whom we have seen nothing off, then the usual Mario games that are just good by defult" but theres more on the 3DS then wii us" and then super smash brawl.

it has no games thats why lol

Everyone said the same thing about the PS3, it's not a valid argument about skipping the Wii-U for a PS4 or an XB1 even if it was true.
There are going to a bunch more games out for the Wii-U by the time you'll be able to even buy a PS4 or XB1 if you don't like the launch titles.
Look at the Nintendo Direct for E3, they have a ton of games coming out that most people would want like Super Smash 4, Mario Kart 8, Pikmin 3, Yoshi's New Island, Wind Waker HD, Splinter Cell BL, Beyoneta 2, and more.

And remember, Wii-U Has great Third Party support for games like the Trine series.

I plan on getting both :D I want the ps4 only for Kingdom Hearts III XD
I want Xbox one for Halo 5 technicaly but they named it Halo :/ but still looks awesome

I think halo is also coming out for PC so waste of money lol

No it isn't O.o but im pretty sure some on is going to rip it for the pc to play on an emulator X3

I'll probably get both since I can't let my Xbone count go to waste, just because I'm such a big achievement-whore.

Turns out Stagish blocked me. If anyone reading this can send this over to Stagish's journal where he talks about the X1, I'd appreciate it.

Reply to Stagish:
So you're not going believe me mainly because I don't have anything on my gallery? That is beyond dumb. Why should anyone believe what you're saying when you haven't provided evidence to your claim? You claim that it has DDR5 ram, where is your proof? I have provided the specs for the X1 that was uploaded a few hours ago. You're evidence is inadmissible because it's hearsay. It is not valid. It's also a good chance that you're lying about the DDR5 ram to try and gain some leverage. However, I can prove that you're lying because of two things. 1. DDR5 RAM does not exist yet. If it did then the PC gamers would be the first ones to have it. PC is always ahead of consoles so they'll get the best tech first. 2. If the X1 did have DDR5 ram it would actually jack up the price more. Either $50-$100 more expensive. Why would Microsoft make their system even more expensive than their competitors? They wouldn't, it would be suicide to implement DDR5 ram now. Those two reasons show that you're either lying or really misinformed. The fact that you're relying on "I'm right because I say so," shows that you have nothing left. You've left most of my counter points alone, and now we're down to debating about DDR5 ram and PS+. Which, by the way, you are also making up facts. This is mostly my fault for not fact checking you after you made the statement. Turns out that the PS+ doesn't cost $100 in Australia like you said. It actually costs $70 (http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/.....australia.aspx).

So the only two arguments that you have left are pretty much gone. There is nothing for you to defend. The PS4 and X1 have the same 8 core x86 processor. With the PS4 having 8 gigs of GDDR5 RAM and the X1 having 8 gigs of DDR3 RAM (http://tech2.in.com/features/consol.....ation-4/876170 , http://www.videogamer.com/news/xbox.....m_is_ddr3.html). The X1 will have the restrictions mentioned before (http://www.gamespot.com/e3/microsof.....x-one-6409419/ , http://www.gamefront.com/xbox-one-w.....aring-trading/). The X1 TV features will not function outside the US at launch (http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/05/xb.....n-each-market/).

If you wish to refute me then provide links. Show me proof of your claims and I will happily recant my statements, if they're valid and accurate. Until you do that then you're pretty much just making stuff up and providing misinformation. Anyone who is reading this conversation knows that.