huh, note the legal text @ 12 seconds that a PSplus subscription is needed for multiplayer...damn.

The important thing is at least Single Player stays in all it's offline glory <3

Gotta pay for the servers somehow.

Subcription fees don't go to the servers, if they did, the PS2 wouldn't have had any online capability, half of PC titles wouldn't exist, and XBL wouldn't have have turned the dashboard into a billboard. It's distressing, but if they continue to hand out free games and discounts (highly doubtful) it won't be too bad.

I was being sarcastic. Server expenses always come up when online fees are mentioned.

Regardless of whether the subscription helps in paying for the servers or not, I would assume it's a more business centered move. The PS4 is relatively cheap, so Sony needs to counterbalance the fact somehow. This option is better than others. People who mainly play singleplayer games are unaffected, and the ones who mostly go for multiplayer gaming have extra incentive to sign up for PS+. ("Free" games, exclusives, beta access, themes, etc.)

Sorry, I didn't catch the sarcasm.
Though I must say, optimally they would just keep the old model. I primarily play single player games, but on the occasion I opt to go for some multiplayer, I'd hate to think I'm paying $50 more per year just to play a few rounds of Uncharted online. Also, I'd hate to think that once PS+ becomes the standard, they remove the deals. After all, what choice would you have?

It's only $5 a month, not too worried about it lol

Hi5~!

He just SAID 5 is NOT hi!

PAY ATTENTION! D:<

would
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get 'outta
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So for $60 a year, you get Multiplayer, game discounts, cloud saves, and free games. Just the first 4 free titles they announced are gonna be $10 or more on Steam. So in those titles alone in free games, your first year's almost compensated.

Wasn't outlast included in that list? God I want to play that game so bad haha

$5 man.....worth it

Oh burn. XD

*crowd cheer, claps and whistles*

Trollin' like a boss

That's just rubbing salt into Microsoft's wounds. Ah, the sweet tears~<3

think this says it all :l
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AyVh1_vWYQ

Oh, totally; the Onion is my go-to- source for everything

work, work you cock sucking piece of shit! what is wrong with you!?

ahaha~ you know my chum that pointed me to this said the exact same thing, it being their go to source

lel

awesome! lol

Pwned~

FUCKIN HA

if nothing changes that should be all they need to sell a good game. buy it, beat it, share it

:facepalm:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/4b406857.....go1_r2_500.gif

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Holy shit, Microsoft got BURNED! XD

I'll just leave this here http://25.media.tumblr.com/6f320eda.....1wfo1_1280.png

I heard someone say that Sony should "stop being assholes" after this video was posted.

Sorry, but when you see a weakness in a competitor, you go for it.

Nah. It's more, when your competitor fucks up as much as Microsoft did, you're entitled to take jabs. XD

Agree'd, Microsoft dropped the ball, hard, right on their own foot, Sony is just laughing at them, not in spite, but cause holy hell was the Microsoft conference bad atop their choices to ruin their console and even more alienate their user base to appeal to the rich folks that have HD tv's, iPads, and generally tons of other tech more advanced than the XBone.

OH! Take that microsoft!

you forgot also alot of bigtime old games on the wii U also the ability to just get a cheap version and use your own hard drive


also as low as 399 for a bad version that means they might start boosting game prices to 70

but nintendo and atlus pulled this sneaky shit with smt4 being 50$

If you're going to call it early like that, get some of the facts straight.


PS4 - Variants are rumored, no price point set, though I'm guessing you won't be far off. Monthly fee is cheaper, but not much, coming to $50 a year. Backwards compatibility comes with the streaming app that comes with PS+, but no news on pricing if you need to repurchase PS3 games, etc.

XBO - $499, only comes with one controller; nowhere has said otherwise. Good chance it's still going to have ads, even with Gold, as with 360. Is NOT backwards compatible, and has no methods announced or rumored as a workaround.

Wii U - $349, for 'best' 32Gig version, seeing as they're getting rid of the $299 8GB one because no one buys it. Spot on, elsewhere, even if fun and innovative is a tad opiniony.


PS4 beat the shit out of the XBone for the presentation. Few will refute that. I really want to see what the Wii U has coming, though. Their goal should be to really separate themselves from the other two and offer something they can't.

Slight additions here:

XBO - Region locked. Japanese, games from Europe, etc. will not work on a US machine.

PS4 - Region free. You can import and play from anywhere.

microsoft has been dead and now sony jumps into the grave also

And Sony wins a million points for being awesome

Is it Apple vs. Microsoft again, or is Sony the lesser of these evils?

Business models carrying forward into the future ARE subscription-based, or -oriented. Microsoft has Xbox Live; Sony PSN. Neither of these are new inventions for the next gen consoles, but they are coming into heavier use (which is predictable) to underscore the SERIOUS LOSS represented by selling these next gen consoles so cheap. Microsoft has gone into the hole at least $4B (that's billion) with the Xbox, and I see the most recent article on 1up states that Sony has just started making a profit on the PS3 after 4 years of red ink.

The Xbox One is basically a PC, mid-range graphics card and all, for about half of what Microsoft probably needs to sell them at to profit (TigerDirect probably can do them cheaper, but not with the case looking the way it does, etc.). What profit margin a monolithic corporation that is used to selling you a piece of plastic and a few stapled-together pieces of paper for $200 definitely is not geared well to selling hardware that costs real money to acquire, have people in China and/or Mexico build it, and then box it up all pretty for sales in the USA. Lot different profit margin than the plastic disc and manual.

Sony is huge like Microsoft but in a lateral way. They make stereos, TVs, speakers, cameras, tablets, computers, gaming systems, just all sorts of consumer products. Not just software, operating systems, gaming systems, boxes with discs and manuals. Microsoft, you take away the discs and manuals, the company folds. Take that away from Sony, you've just closed a division, big deal. They could just ramp up washing machine and dryer sales for a few years and smooth out that hiccup.

So who SHOULD listen to their customers better? Microsoft. And true to form, they don't. Some idiot with a clever spreadsheet convinced the number crunchers who love their Excel reports that the rules of licensing for Xbox One will work perfectly well for their bottom line. After all, they control all the Windows licenses, and IF WE DON'T OBEY THEY WILL REVOKE OUR LICENSES UNTIL WE SURRENDER! MUAHAHAHA!!! Oh, sorry I was thinking about the Xbox One licenses... or am I!?

With this and the price point they are going the right now. This ad is a warranted job and the craziness of the X-Box One (even that name, the third generation really should not have a one it's name regardless of the meaning)

I donnow, I still prefer being a member of the PC Gaming Master Race.

GG....nuff said

MIND EQUALS BLOWN.

Yeah, I have always had Sony consoles (ok.. My newest is a 1st gen PS2) but there is no reason to screw over both your customers and the retail game store industry like what Microsoft wants to do.

Plus PS4's specs look much more promising and it is cheaper. Seriously what is not to like?

PS4, riding the anti-xbox wave like a boss.

I like it, short sweet and to the point XD

The real news in this conference wasn't just that Sony pointed at the giant smelly nasty thing Microsoft left in the room, but that they went all the way to mop the floor with their competitor's face until it shone again. Console war of this kind we haven't seen in a while. All to our benefit :3

In a single sweep, it also dispelled the notion that publishers, microsoft, sony, "selected retailers", all sat down to kick nintendo out of the biz and steal from people their property rights. Nice to know this just belongs to the conspiracy trashcan.

Someone else pointed out to me that apparently both people have to continue holding on to the box while sharing it, since there's no step 2.

hahahaha that was great