Great, another artist goes to a paywall. Figures. PG stuff is not worth looking at here so there is no longer any reason to watch you.
Your financial concerns are none of mine nor should be anyone else's.
PARE: https://inkbunny.net/journalview.php?id=143878

Well played sir. I shall definitely, totally miss someone who didn't buy any commissions and won't pay for the creation of any pictures. Wat a cunning plan you have dreamed up.

+1 for your reply!

It's called 'the law of supply and I DEMAND YOU GIVE ME SHIT FOR FREE'.

"Your financial concerns are none of mine nor should be anyone else's."

You must be very happy in your little libertarian log cabin in the woods then, since without 'financial concerns', you obviously don't care about a job, or money, groceries, ultitlities, or any other basic necessities. Must be blissful being that ignorant.

-watch

Fucks given: 0
Now if you were a customer that'd have weight.
If I was paid a penny per watcher per month, I'd care.
If you were even one of the people who took time to comment regularly I'd care.
But who are you to me but someone who just transitioned from lurker to entitled whiner?

With that kind of attitude, you're not likely to make any more customers.

you'll probably just vanish into mediocrity hiding everything behind a paywall.

This is....extremely disappointing. And then artists wonder why people don't like Patreon.

No we know why you don't like it: It lets us charge money easily. You want everything to be free. Artists want to get paid. You pay us, we'll make more art.
Or we'll start a webcomic so we can sell you a book or original panels or try and persuade you to donate.
Or just upload stuff to FA to get commissions by showing people what we can do. It's advertising.

Do you work for free?

Think of it this way, imagine if everyone on FA started a Patreon and locked their art behind it. Do you think that the casual watcher would pay hundreds if not thousands of dollars to see everything?

You're reaching for short term gains over long term success. But it's your choice, do what you will.

No I'm not: Consider this... I'm stull uploading, eg http://www.furaffinity.net/view/14631773/
Now that's a nice pic. I can tell people like it because I've been watching the stats and it's getting a reasonably high number of views and favourites.

Now here's the thing: That's what I'm uploading on FA and what I'm continuing to upload.

So given that it's ahd 150 views, a bunch of favourites and pulled in one extra watcher, even with a Pareon Banner, what makes you think this is going to doom me or FA? It merely means that my callery is going to be full of PG/PG13 art and if anyone wants to see porn they can slip me $1 and get access to everything I uploaded.

Meaning that there will be more art made because it's in my interest to have a larger stash.

So our argument that nobody should be compensated because people who are only here for free pornography won't pay for it indicates you haven't noticed that the web-porn industry makes billions.

THhnk of it as free cheesecake.

We'll see which of us is proven right over time. Good luck.

Put it this way: You're getting free art, you're just upset it's not the free art that you weren't paying for previously.

But for a modest sum of $15 per char you too can have exactly the picture you really wanted.

I don't commission art. For many reasons. And I'm not mad, just disappointed, for you.

Well if you're not paying you don't get to complain if I don't upload or I decide to only upload PG. You're only disappointed in me because you wanted free stuff, and you're not satisfied with the free stuff I'm putting up.

Now if more people commissioned me then I wouldn't have to try and find other ways to get paid. But there it is. Prices went up around me and my wages didn't.

I don't get the anger one way or the other.
I appreciate very much everything any artist chooses to allow me to see.
And if they want or need money for it, I may or may not have it available.
Chances are I won't pay, but sometimes I will, and that's entirely their choice.

Unfortunately for us all, money is life. In this particular sort of thing, all we can do is 1) pay, which is good! or 2) appreciate what we're given without paying.
I choose 1 if I can or want to, and always live by 2.
I wish ya luck with the patreon thingamajig.

Thanks. As I was saying, I'm still uploading art like that mare, so there's still stuff to look at. It's just not as nude as some people feel they're owed, on account of they didn't pay for that picture so it'd better be what they want! ;)

I see no mare-wink. YOU WILL FEED ME YOUR SOUL OM NOM NOM NOM NOM
But yeah. I don't "like" patreon but lately seeing some of the anger over artists who work hard just trying a new way to get a little support is just...eesh.
If something gives me a total boner I don't mind paying a little for it on occasion. =>.>=

Now if only I could win the lottery and buy it all. >:3 I SHALL PURCHASE AN ARMY OF ARTISTS and they shall animate me 8 straight hours of slick wet gooey dripping....plot! Rrawrrrr.

All I can say is, wait a month, pay $1 and just grab the entire month's worth of uploads. Then just come back every six months. Seems like a good gig. It hardly costs you much, and I get a little. Now I need to persuade about 15000 people to swing by every three months and I can be a full time professional furry artist.

Best of luck.

Thanks. I figure it's like FA Day one you start with no galery and no reputation. Then you slowly work your way up until you have a bunch of watchers, some of whom will unwatch you for many reasons, some of who stay. And some, you're their favourite artist... others they only tagged you in the hope you're going to do more of a specific character or theme.

THen one day you're either Flinthoof getting 8000 views per image, or you're still doing pictures of your Sonic "OC" and bitching because of all these Pokémon and MLP pics flooding the place while you're still drawing the same char int he same pose 1000 times

Didn't Photoshop turn free earlier this year? Adobe releasing universal free keys and all? Not that I like photoshop.... it takes aagges to start up, and has a confusing interface! Paint.net for the win!

No, PS CS 2 got accidentally released but it's pretty old tech. To put it in perspective, the latest version uses graphics acceleration, live, real time filters, is 64 bit, has a built in 3D render engine so you can pull in a mesh and paint on it like it's a canvas, and can print to a 3D printer, as well as deal with HDR pictures.

PS CS 2 can't.

PS is now up to about CS 7 or 8 I think, re-branded as CC - Creative cloud. It costs about $10 a month on subscription, which is pretty reasonable given it used to be just $600 and you'd still pay $300 a year on upgrades.

Now Paint.net is fun and all but you just can't do some of the stuff you can in Photoshop. It's like having a console and going "Yeah this plays games and movies and shit and it's great! No fucking about with software prefs or hardware"

... Until the day you look over from your console which is cranking along at 30fps at 720p and realise that some guy with a PC is running your favourite game at 1080p with higher detail settings than the console has, at 60fp, with HDR lighting and on his version his draw distance is ten times yours... even with way more detail and FX, and he's also got a seconds screen up, with a whole bunch of stuff on it, and he can aim with pinpoint accuracy at twice the speed you can.

But he had to deal with software and hardware and, it probably cost twice as much, minimum.

So I can do some pretty cool wizardry on Paint.net because I've got a whole load of skills I can apply, but give me Photoshop and I will perform Sorcery and you won't ever know how I did it because Paint.net jsut doesn't support whatever I was using.

But I also had to pay per month and buy a Wacom tablet, a bunch of spare nibs, and so on.

I really love your work and still look forward to the PG stuff. I understand how hard it can be to do what you love and pay the bills as opposed to doing things you hate and living well. I wouldn't mind paying a few bucks a month to the artists who toil so that I can masturbate. I think my issue is just that I watch so many artists that it's a real pain when they start trickling out to other services like Weasyl or whatever. I'd love to say "you're the only one, baby", but I'm not very organized and having to bounce to a bunch of different sites to check for new posts from a small handful of artists then I'm usually too lazy to bother.. I went through the same thing (just on a smaller scale) back when it was VCL to FA.
That being said, I still want to commission you someday. I think your style would do my rhino or rooyena gals some real justice. <3

It's understandable, and I get it. It's the facebook problem: Nobody likes facebook, but you can't really move away because everyone else is on facebook.

And you don't want to end up trying to pay $200 just to see a handful of pics per month...

But as I said: The price of everything went up, and my wages didn't, so I have to do something, and it's better to try and fail than to just go hide under a blanket, even though it's a very nice fluffy blanket.

It's far form ideal but it does give me and everyone else this new option.

Also? I think those pics are probably some of the best I've done lately, clothing or not.