Sorry about that.

10/10 comment, deserved a gold medal.

I mean I dont understand why its offensive words like that are only offensive if we make it sound like it so its societies fault not the word itself.

Partially, yeah. It's like some people taking the f-word back even though it's been used offensively for so long. There are words where that will never be the case because of the oppression caused by them, particularly race-based words.
However, I dare you to go out and talk about vulvas with the word cunt. You will be glared at so quickly.

Then there's the fact that aside from those words: twat, cunt, pussy, coochie, most other words for vaginas are just GROSS. I dont want to think about tuna taco, holy crap. That's like calling a dick a cheese-pop and expecting to still be turned on by it. Gross.

yeah

Is it funny that i literally said the same thing to my girlfriend just yesterday. >-<

Maybe he's Canadian?

Tbis was just amazing, go get them pussies. xD

-puts on pussyhunter cap unironically-

Ain't that the truth.
Where d'hell is that favorite button!

probably in someone's coochie somewhere ;D

mmpf~ ;]

took me a moment to realize you're talking about the comic XD

Sexuality is quite forced. Everyone wants their own little shade of gray, yet bites the head off someone who doesn't get what they are right away. At least, that's what I get from those who are aggressive with it. I mean, jesus christ.

Was the realistic sex part of the sexuality thing? :P Furries go far into porn porn porn and just like how people who watch too much professional porn, furries tend to get a warped sense of what they desire from too much furry porn. As you said, taking the biggest dick is the perfect example. Intimacy, passion, and sharing something with someone is where it's at. That, and squishy people :3~

As someone who grew up with a bunch of girls in high school, I used to get punched so hard when I accidentally dropped the cunt bomb when everyone else says dick and cocksucker <.< I always thought that was a double standard. I should be able to say whatever swear word I want as an Australian :3~

Sexuality around here is quite forced* god, please don't bite me ;-;

lol you're fine XD

how big of a cock you can take is what makes you super popufur, the bigger the slut the better!

if you cant take a traffic cone without lube than might as well gtfo!

haha only kidding but theres my little rant to go with yours

I agree on everything you said. There's nothing better than realistic sex the physical contact and all that comes with it especially the feelings and if there's affection its priceless. but hey ever since I found this fandom it has always been rather pushy with those topics.
About the insults well to be honest we have our ancestors to blame, when women had no rights and such. Men were such assholes and there still are plenty. But its much widely used than just guys everyone insults with female genitalia names regardless of gender. Could be perhaps of how complex females are. Just a thought idk really.

Well, you know. In a community that revolves a lot around a sexual fetish and delving into that sexual fetish in a visual medium, you aren't going to get a lot of realism or intimacy. Some people do have some pretty intimate and cute pictures, but it's hard to deliver a sense of real intimacy and a relationship with one or two pictures.

We see big dicks, buckets of cum and all that stuff because... Well. It's fantasy. No one wants to go to a Monster Truck rally to see a short-bed truck run over big wheels. We want to see Gravedigger plow through a flaming wall made out of Honda Civics.

what I'm saying is that not everyone wants to even go to a monster truck race. I dont think of furry as a fetish to ME personally. I think of furry as an art style and expression. I'm honestly turned off by the 'monster truck' uber big dicks and cum and filth, but again, that's my deal. I'm just saying that I'm going to try doing more realism in the future.

I don't like it when things swing too much into the exaggerated range, but it is what it is. Artists ( especially visual ones ) deal with an idealized medium. Most people's idealized forms are far from realistic, and so the art follows suit.

You, for instance, seem to have something of a thing for somewhat pretty, athletic men. Most of the ladies I've seen in your gallery fall into a similar range. Most sex isn't going to involve people that are nearly as good looking as the guys in your gallery. They're unrealistically pretty ( by most people's standards ), because of the medium they're created in, and the reason you draw them.

I guess what I'm saying is, it is what it is.

I repeated myself. I need more coffee and better self editing. :(

A-FUCKIN-MEN.

Lucky A

Ironically (and that show that good phrases can come from unusual places) that guy Orson Scott Card (not gonn oppinate on him) said once that sex was not a beautiful thing, sex was gross... For everybody except the ones involved in the act. There is an interesting amout of truth in that, thats how "real" sex is, specially sex with the one you love and would give life, soul and everything.
Even I sometimes when drawing will have periods of "calm down groins, thats not what sex is about, really. No, not even then".

And on a sidenote, I completely agree with all the female epiteths thing, that' s totally unfair and a dick move
How pussy does even try to be an insult? I am a pussy :D
Say pussy, it slides over one' s tongue (no double entrende, well, maybe a bit now).
Pusssssssssyyyyyyyyyyyyy I wish I had synestesia I bet that word would be fun puuuuuuuussssssssssssssyyyyyyyyyyyy <3
At least Cunt has a hard "C", but the "P" is soft and huggable...

Derailing here. Bye!

omg was that vagina monologues? XDDD
And yeah, sex is kind of the weirdest thing ever if you think about it too long, but also amazing ;u;

Salkitten, you're a girl after my own heart. While my fursona is a little
better looking, he's also very real, because the lion's share of him is
me IRL. And I've yet to write a story that is pure, gratuitous sex,
because I'm far more interested in the characters' personal relationships,
that I am in the hot, sweaty sex. The latter does happen in my stories,
it's just that I try my best to build things up, so that it flows naturally,
rather than just writing the short story equivalent of a porn movie.

And you've brought up another point that's always bothered me. I've
never written a straight sex scene, in part because I've never found
a term for female genitalia that doesn't come across as insulting in
one way or another. So I've had to perpetually shelve some very
good story ideas. And that just leaves me feeling down, because
my one good talent, is bringing stories to life.

*Gives you a hug*
I know how you feel Kitten and if you don't mind me extending the olive branch a step further, pun intended, can I recommend FetLife? [Yes Erika mentioned it in her comic, but I've been a member on there for over three years now and I've made many friends from it. Send me a PM for my screen name if you'd like to add me on there.]

Indeed. As a writer - both furridom and professional - one of the most dreaded things for me is the sex scene. For some reason, we're (society) still hung up on the vocabulary for sex and its various aspects. I love the word 'pussy,' personally. It's the most sensual word, in my opinion. But for whatever Puritan reasons, people still flip out over it. And god help us, trying to skirt around the issue by using metaphors can lead to some of the most ridiculous terms imaginable. Then, on the other side of the scale, you've got writers that throw out words like 'cock' and 'cunt' in Tourette's afflicted strings of consciousness and think its sexy.

It probably doesn't help matters that as a culture, we're not too far off from the era where people 'believed' that women didn't even have sexual thoughts, so no vocabulary existed to properly define it... Or it was always considered dirty and/or immoral. And, like it or not, many attitudes towards sex still focus on concepts such as Power and Control (and not the mmrmmmy play-stuff). So, sex is more a insert-rod-into-hole-repeat affair, rather than the true intimacy it should be.

So, yes, I think we've got a long way to go still to change and mold our vocabulary into something more sensual and acceptable.

I dunno, every time I see something like "he touched her pussy" my mind betrays me with an image of him leaning over and petting a passing cat.

I'd like to add onto this if I may, about the fact that not only does it get idealized, only the certain ones seem to be heavily idealized in the fandom. For example, gay sex.

Every time I see a nice, not overly fetisized picture of straight sex, people ALWAYS have to have something to say about the lack of anal or the lack of another man or some other bullshit negative comment directed at straight sex or at the female in general. It's god damn sad considering all the bullshit people in the LGBT community have to go through just to be accepted or not be looked down on, to have those same oppressed turn around and condemn someone else. So sad and I see it ALL. THE. TIME. It's like being straight is a bad and digusting thing around here and that makes me sad.

I have never said this to anyone, but for a very long time any depictions of gay sex made me feel jealous in a way. It still does, honestly, to an extent. I like it, but to me, it's showing me a life that I feel like wasn't able to be offered to me. Being born physically female, but identifying as a gay male, there were many times were my masculinity wasn't...enough and my sexuality was questioned or I was thought of less because of my anatomy. Even more so when people learn I have no immediate plans to have surgery to alter that part of my body. As much as I wish and dream about having something else there, I still don't have one and still have to live with the anatomy I was born with. I WANT to have pride in my body as I'm starting to accept myself and lord knows how much I love myself despite it, but that love gets smaller and smaller every time someone goes 'ew vagina' or insults it. I wish i didn't take it so personally, but there's always that part of me that screams "I don't want, nor did I ask for it, you don't have to insult me for it".

I'm also tired of people using it to define my sexuality. I identify as male and therefore that would mean any relationship I have with another male would be a gay one if you wanted to toss labels on it (and I personally am not someone who minds labels). But nope, vagine. Means I'm straight. Means I HAVE to use that as my sexuality because any guy would be having to deal with a vagina (nevermind if I use it or not). Which would make me a girl. -.-

It's like if you have any part of you that screams feminine in any way, then all hell breaks loose. I'm defined by it and for me it's something I have had to learn to live with, not something I was born with and just accepted and loved from the get go. So it's very hard to feel comfortable with myself when the one thing I don't want to be defined by is exactly the thing everyone uses.

Sorry I ranted too...n.n; I just love your journal. I am guilty of using the word cunt, but I also use dick bag. I never really thought about it in that way, but I can see why. I also remember someone getting upset at me for using the word 'cunt' as an insult and implied I was unable to use it because it was sexist, but said ZERO about me using the word 'dick' as one, and keeeept calling me 'dick' and 'douche' so I'm like "...whut". Then when i tried to point out the flaw in their logic she gave me that "u mad" bull you get sometimes.

HOLY SHIT THIIIIIIIIIIIIS
I also dont know why chicks are so senstivite to name calling, men usually endure it better because they get name called more often, so females are sexually protected that way because they are "fragile" or "girly". But i dont like to be associated with that because its degrading to protect me from name calling because im physically female, makes me wish i looked stronger. Remember this, under a weak and fragile looking flower can always have strong roots. Do not underestimate the female sex as weak plox people

It's funny because this chick was coming to complain about me calling her friend that after her friend degraded and ganged up on me and a couple other of her watchers for nothing more than an opposing opinion, then that same friend drew and submitted something linking back to the journal and further making fun of me and the two others who she and her white knights attacked. I said her friend was acting like a cunt and actually ADMITTED to being a bitch and being okay with it and saying it's OUR fault we interacted with her and got her shitty personality.

So not only was I not allowed to make fun of her friend who attacked me and had her friends attack me, I wasn't allowed to use the term 'cunt' while she proceeded to call me every other sexist insult in the book.

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xD exactly!

Picard always has the most fitting expressions

Yeah, I was just about to post something about the first part of your rant. It's not just the sex part of sexuality but the orientation. Like... I felt uncomfortable calling myself straight because I felt I wasn't fitting in because of my preference. I thought I was bi, honestly did, but men don't really tickle my pickle and I've come to terms with that. Not ashamed to admit it.

I know that feeling. Even after figuring out I didn't like girls the way I thought I did, it was a little harder for me to admit it. I didn't want to seem like those guys that are gay and act like women are gross. I felt like I'd be lumped into the same group of guys, especially since I have a lot of gay and "femboy" friends. I think that's ultimately what made me choose to identify as pansexual initially to begin with. I didn't want anyone to lump me into those hate groups because I have been around them so often.

It actually helped when my ex-girlfriend and my female friends were supportive and none of them seemed to look at me any differently for allowing myself to just be happy and not force anything.

In australia, people call their best mates cunts.
like

"man, that bloke is a top cunt."

Stereotypical, but not entirely false neither.

Being Australian i can tell you for certain that while, yes, some people do call their friends cunts, it isn't very common. Least not where I'm from it aint.

being australian, many of the cultural stereotypes are true in most parts of australia

Indeed, you are right mate, but still, the one in question doesn't happen much here.

(Also i probably should have checked to see if you were an Aussie as well before typing what i did. Sorry.)

http://youtu.be/H6MMEsD_Avo

try sex criminals comic!

Real sex does not look good. Its not ment too. Thats not its function. People who come here for sexual art art not looking for real. They want the fantasy. They want the "perfect woman" and the huge dick dudes. Its not about love or procreation.....its about lust and desire.
i hope the more realistic stuff picks up more steam. It be a nice change

Lolnot even close in terms of responses. I think if you called someone a cock here they'd laugh or sneer

I'm afraid I've never heard someone called a cock here. Dicks, yeah, but never a cock. .-.

'you're a cock' 'say what?' XD there wouldn't be insult, just 'did you really just say that'

"YOU COCK." "Don't you mean dick?" "Uh... I guess?"

At work on break so i cant exactly elaborate much but i agree wholeheartedly hon, oh and "bearded clam" made me giggle because deep down im immature xP

Wonderful <3

The inherent problem here is that artists tend to focus on their ideal as for some it is also a means of escapism, which is kind of obvious considering the kind of community we're on right now. Funny thing though is that two of my pet favourite OCs are that because of their imperfections and personality flaws, which tends to be helped by having elements of my own instilled in them.

It doesn't help when one of them is pretty much me, gap toothed and imperfect and all. Nobody likes imperfect characters anyway. XD

Ideal straight sex: no pregnancy, no birth control (men usually dont want it if they are into impregnation), no std spreading, no condoms, super attractive characters.

But fantasy porn is fantasy, still has its downsides if your mindset is unrealistic while applying inrl. Dont forget protection everyone! Thats for you all guys and galls.

You.. pretty much described vanilla porn. After all this kind of material is intended to arouse its audience. I'm also confused as to why yours wound up as a reply to my comment as well. XD

Hear hear! *clapping* :3

Need a favorite button on this journal.
My mom acts completely ashamed and shushes anyone in the upside that mentions any kind of female genitalia. I didn't even get the sex/puberty talk from her, she just subtley gave me a puberty book (the period book, I think it was called).
I was ashamed for the longest time too, and then it eventually turned into "WELP, IT'S NOT GOING AWAY ANYTIME SOON SO I MIGHT AS WELL GET OVER IT."
I've discovered (through stories told to me) that those that worry and want to have perfect sex have really sucky sex lives. My boyfriend and I always end up in giggle fits because of our size difference (not genital wise), because he's got a good 200 lbs on me, and he's tall and I'm short, and sometimes we just can't figure out what we're doing. XD I do love the one's that get grossed out by sweat though. Like, what did you think epwas going to happen?
Being a female is an awesome thing, and we need to realize that there's nothing wrong with being feminine.

It really is a relief that there are in fact people on this website who share this opinion...realism in furry art seems like a lost concept these days.

Thank you so much for restoring a little bit of my faith in humanity

Honestly its about fucking time someone got tired of giant dicks and tits that make watermelons insecure. XD

I just think cunt is a fun word along with twat. Blame British youtubers. :P

I totally agree with this rant. I've also noticed that if you say you're Bi furries either love you or read you for it :/ a lot like a "damned if you are and damned if you aren't" kind of scenario. Thanks for posting this :)

Most words for penises are hilarious to me, but what's REALLY FUNNY is when you try to describe the state of an erect penis with fancy romance novel wording.


STATELY SCEPTER




hahaha



Also I agree. We make everything AS SEXY AS POSSIBLE OK IF IT'S NOT LIKE SO MUCH CUM AND SO MUCH STRETCHING AND A DICK AS BIG AS YOUR TORSO THEN YOU'RE NOT DOING IT RIGHT.

It could just be two characters in a relationship holding onto eachother, and being intimate. LOL

Every guy turns into dick wizards when they get boners.

THANK YOU

Gosh

Somebody finally said it.

Fuck, it makes me want to kick furniture how much a community based around sexuality and kink just so happens to be super prejudiced against sexuality and kink. Sexism, transphobia, homophobia, heterophobia, the idealization of "art" that crosses a line into a legit issue, and the fact its all supported by one huge patriarchal circle jerk, like every-fucking-thing else.

I don't care about some white cis man, gay or not, coming on here and playing devil's advocate on this comment 'cause I'm not reading it.

In short, fucking amen. You rock <3

Cunt really isn't that bad of a word to me as well. These days people get sensitive about everything.

Most people in America find cunt to be a more offensive word than even "Fuck", which is generally considered the top-tier offensive word in the english language (at least in America). It doesn't carry nearly as much weight in England, oddly enough. But frankly it bugs me that sexual terms should be offensive at all. :/

Yeahhhh in the south it's pretty damn offensive. you just dont say cunt, even as a curse. it's really not okay XDDD

Most people in America - citation needed.

citation: I'm amurrican
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Probably the most entertaining rant I've read all week.

I agree wholly on the sexuality thing. I'm in it for the romance and the connection and the warmth of another's body, not over-the-top jizz explosions.

To be fair, we reside in an odd fandom, it's both big and niche at the same time, more SFW content is produced but NSFW stuff gets far more attention, and we have no big specific media that most in the community recognize(aside from stuff that's identified with other fandoms).

DAR!! I love their comics so much ;u; Reading DAR opened my eyes to myself and I still identify as queer haha.

I called a guy a cunt once.. it was amazing how everyone just kinda froze in time as if I just set a jew on fire.... but if I called him a dick no one would of batted an eye.

Salkitten, keeping it real. X3 nah, but i agree, sexuality ispretty forced in the furry community

I thought Australia was the worst for using the word regularly. X3

two thumbs up

I noticed that while trying to write erotic material... the vast majority of the time, any euphemism for a pussy is either food, or gross-sounding. Or both. :/

As far as sex goes, eeeh... I have to agree that the best sex is sex with somebody you care about, and whether they're supermodel-gorgeous or normal stature, the intimate feeling of it being really personal between you and the person you care for makes it way better. But I also think that sex in and of itself is fun, too--intimacy with a loved one makes it even more fantastic, sure, but sex is still pretty fun even without intimacy.

I think what's important is just to have fun. If you're single, or if you don't want to be in a serious, dedicated relationship, then a fling or something is fun. Sex in general is fun. But if you find somebody special, then all the more power to you, y'know? It means it's even better. Simply, I think we should just enjoy sex when/if we can get it, and really treasure it when we can have it with those we love dearly.

The main problem is the literal objectification of sex as a pleasure seeking business. The blowout of details that tend to please the mind's eye. Porn uses the "MORE OF WHAT YOU LIKE" approach, and by usual standards, things get pretty damn explicit.

I agree wholeheartedly about needing a more emotional approach to erotic imagery (specially in this fandom where literally everything is fetishized).

It's common to think having sexuality freedom is limited to fetishizing a broader amount of stuff. This usually happens more on popular artists, or artists whose galleries are filled with commissions. We tend to fetishize large horse cocks, knots, loads of cum, inhumanly large breasts, copious amount of lubrication, etc.

It sells because it offers something beyond our reality that is easy to relate to.

Sex sells because you don't need to "get" it, but sexuality needs to be understood, felt and appreciated. That's why we see so little of it.

You just got like...so much awesome person points from me for this post. Like seriousllllyyyy. We're living in a society where everyone is plagued by over-idealized "norms" that aren't the norm at all. Women and men are struggling with self-worth and body dysmorphia due to the photoshopped models. Women are becoming sexualized objects, and are also starting this at a much younger age. Its creepy to see that it is a norm now to look like a playboy chick at the age of 13. I don't like how society is at the moment... :\ I like the movement some people are taking though at standing up to all this bull. I really wish there weren't negative feminists who ruined the movement for some people.... I love the feminist movement that actually stands for equality for all. Men shouldn't be emasculated as an insult, and women shouldn't be by default. Everyone is strong in their own way, regardless of their outwards appearance....

The word 'cunt' is just a word to me. If I hear someone use it as an insult, it would sound just as meh as calling someone a dick.
Just words.

This bothers me too because the only words I'm uncomfortable hearing or saying are all female genital euphemisms. I can say dick, cock, bitch, fuck, shit, etc all day, but if someone says pussy or cunt, I get super uncomfortable. Vulvas: Forever a secret mystery that no one talks about unless we're trying to insult someone. :(

true facts. but dont you know? 'it's no different than saying cock lol'

I think it really depends on the person and how they see their characters. Some people merely see their characters as sexual objects to do with what they will. Others actually view their characters as.. beings for lack of a better word.

Also, I love calling people cunts. It's literally one of my favorite words. I'm just as likely to call someone a dick as I am to call them a cunt. I'm sorry. xD

Longtime Oh Joy reader here too, glad you like it too! The only euphemisms I can think of which aren't food, animal or insults are "rocket pocket" and "pink canoe", but they aren't particularly great.

My housemate asked me if vagentlemen had sir-loins :D

What about quim? It's archaic and offensive overseas but here no one knows it. I think it's a lot softer than cunt

Don't worry Sal, England just loves using the word cunt. They'll rally behind you to use it more! :'D

Ah, quite right! Here in the UK I think it's more childish than offensive. I'd put it at about the same level as pussy; you'd be surprised if your doctor said it, and if your kid said it at school they might get told off but the principle wouldn't call the parents, y'know?

No, it's not just you, and you shouldn't have to apologize for it. Sex is supposed to be something meaningful as you're in the moment and being intimate with someone else to a degree. I too have been a bit annoyed by what I've seen in the fandom, and it gets pushed way too much. It's partially why I personally haven't drawn as much as I used to

It's really strange that people consider the words for female genitalia more insulting, and even stranger that we even began using genitalia as insults lol. Who was first like "O-Oh YEAH??!? well..YOUR A DICK!" I find that funny. Though It probably has something to do with how much of the words dont sound very sexy they all kinda have a harsh/ugly sound to them it's a shame really but eh. Also love to see more realistic sex! I actually think that's hotter in a way~ Though it's fun to play around with the obscure. :3

Ohjoysextoy! I love that comic :D

-claps-

You are awesome! Every word you speak is not but truth, I hope that more and more people come to this realization about the world of not only our community but in general.

Go out there and speak freely, and I can not wait to see some of the more natural stuff you create <3

I totally agree. It's messed up that it's like being the catching end of sex is somehow bad. It doesn't even matter your gender or orientation, it's the one who takes it that gets the dirtiest names. What's with that?

I agree with the above statements: This journal needs a favorite button.

The fandom pushes sexuality hard... Even in non-sexual situations and art, characters are depicted in very idealistic ways... And like some people above have mentioned, this mere idealistic presentation of the characters we try to identify and project ourselves onto... Well, it causes a LOT of distress, for some people. I'm sure it can happen for all sorts of people of all sexes, genders, and sexual orientations, but in some cases, it gets flat out more unrealistic than in others. For example, in my own case, as one whom identifies as a femboy, seeing all the highly idealized art of totally-unrealistically-effeminately-built characters sets a standard that really isn't fair for any femboy IRL, and even gives IRL biological females a run for their money, too boot. For that reason alone, it was for two years that I had to set the idea on the back-burner (occasionally stirring up said metaphorical pot) before I told myself it was even a feasible thing. And I'll be honest... Those standards have caused me to be more than a bit of a dick to some people... To them, I apologize sincerely.

And, of course, even now, I often have doubts of my capability to pull it off, despite knowing very strongly that this is definitely what feels right, and I do think it is part of the highly idealized nature of the art that is to be found. There are, as always, rare exceptions to this rule, but often, even then, those characters are given an idealized body, even if not curvaceous and slim beyond any real-life comparison.

I mean, I can only truly speak for myself, but I'm more than certain that other folks of all descriptions must have similar reactions in response to this high degree of idealization we find in nearly every aspect of the fandom.

So, uhm... Yeah. There's my rant, anyone whom got this far, thank you very much for your time and energy. ^^

Regarding the second half, "taking back" what's yours, I'm male and that's not my fight to fight, so I'll stay out of your way and let you do your thang
(I will say, as an American I'm a big fan of Jimmy Carr and his casual use of 'cunt', and kinda wish non-Brits could be equally casual as it's an elegant word, but I do know how explosive the word is in the US, on par with the N-word)

Regarding the first half, painfully true I must admit, and I've fallen prey to this long ago. I'm not a no-fap purist (quit the opposite unfortunately) but there is a kernel of truth to their contention that heavy consumption of porn distorts your perspective on IRL sexuality, and this is no less true in furry fantasy. I don't know if I EVER saw much "realism" in this community, nor did I expect to. Produced "real" porn idealizes the best of what we want to see within the limits of human capability. Once you remove those restraints, in the furry/drawn realm, the imagination is the limit and that is an endless resource. Infinite ideas that would never be physically possible (unbirth/vore, cumflation, torture with regeneration, the classic "who needs internal organs" x-ray shots, etc) are all entertained in our heads. I've grown accustomed to myriad fantasies thad I either could not or would not try IRL. Still a virgin, I've been that sort of "not interested" person long before I found the furry world but I've also always hoped to change that, and I feel like my involvement here blocks the impetus to TRY to change that.

Just some random rambling musings, thanks for sharing and getting us thinking too...
twat

Saying "cunt" really isnt that big a deal here in Australia :P

Have you heard of a comic called Go Get A Roomie? The start is a bit rocky on it, but the author does go into the talk about sexuality as is and she is a full supporter of equality. It's actually thanks to her that I've had a new look on the subject.

Honey pot is endearing. Especially for someone like me who eats honey plain

You make some very good points here, and I agree with you entirely. Though...if you're looking for a "good" word for one genital or another, I would personally recommend just using that actual name. That's just me, though, and I understand where you're coming from, so I support this rant. :D

Personally I think the "secret" is to be joyful in your own sexuality, regardless of your shape or gender's "popularity" in the eyes of the fashionable public. I think that's a good part of what gets furry fans "in trouble" with the world at large: We still believe in a phrase like "the joy of sex" in a time when the pendulum has swung severely away from that. Much to the degradation of our collective psyche.

And yes: For all the "hot fucks" in the world, there is nothing, NOTHING, to compare with the feeling of waking up snuggled in the arms of someone you love... after you both hat a hot fuck the night before

Agree with all of this.

I actually use twat, cunt, pussy, etc. a lot to mention female genitals, and that's what I associate the words with :P I actually had them as lewd names that people had turned into insults XD

Yis, I think it's unfortunate how worried people have become about looking perfect at every second. Sometimes seeing the' aftermath' of sex in it's imperfection is pretty fun :>

Ah, sex. A wonderful topic.

Let me say, state, that the reality is it has nothing to do with the furry community, atleast, well...

The affairs in today's world are hyperfocused on sexuality. All of them. All it takes is 20 minutes around the scum of the earth (read: 70% of the male population) and you'll find out all anyone on a base level thinks about is when they're going to fuck their next bitch, smoke their next blunt, or dodge their next baby's momma looking for child support. The top 1% treat sex like yet another status symbol. It use to be, back in the day, if a man had a mistress, or two, or five, he kept that under his hat and away from the poker table. Now, a man of wealth is expected to display is 'trophies' and talk about it whenever he gets the chance. (and not just the cultures that have kept harems for over 2000 years) Above all, marriages are nose-diving, as everyone expects to 'get lucky' within the first week, where as before you could date a person for six months and not see them naked. I get bagged on for being in a single relationship for 13 years when I mention it amongst my blue collar coworkers, like I'm some kind of freak, or mental retard. The idea of a relationship is foreign not just in furry culture, but in today's society in general. Furries, having been rooted in a sort of off-shoot of fetish garb are basically just a sharpened end to this long, looooong stick of sex-focus/connection-deprivation decline. They're reflective of the state of society, an that reflective bent just magnifies the underlying faults. ... but that's just my read on the facts. It's not to say some furries are un-singleminded in their plumbing of the depths of depravity. I just don't really think they're doing anything too out of the norm for the rest of the fleshies. They just have that certain tinge to them.


As far as the sacred triangle, I think you have to go 'flowery' if you want to re-allocate terms for it. 'Mons' happens to be one of my favorite, referring to the mons pubis, which is actually the area of the groin upon which the labia splits, and where pubic hair sits, so it's actually in-congruent with actual anatomy, but I take liberties with my writer's license on that one. It just sounds good. 'Nethers' is another one, 'inner walls' (the actual vagina in itself), or 'slit' if I'm feeling quick and dirty. I also secretly like the phrase 'camel toe' because it elicits such wonderful imagery and is wildly imaginative. 'Snatch' is one I did not see get brought up... but, like the rest of the words you mentioned are cast in a negative light, snatch is hard and harsh on the tongue. And I think that's kinda the point. A shaft, a spire, a masculine tower, a dick is a sharp, protruding object. It's an object that makes itself known. It brings about its own existence. That's why I think it weathers harsh names like cock, jizz cannon, pussy plunger, etc. The V, on the other hand is soft. It's mysterious. It's usually hidden, and you have to go searching for it. It doesn't typically come to you. (well, today, as I stated above, it kinda does) You have to entice it. It's not weak, no (I actually find the word 'mons' a strong word, but not 'hard') but you need a gentle tongue (HA Ha, double entendre) to speak to it, or of it. I suppose I could rattle off a few more, if you're looking for more palatable phrasings.

You're blaming language for people. Wrong way, sorry. You would deprive us of the shocking, impolite words we need to impress upon the slower-witted the impolite but indispensable truths. You would also deprive us of the shocking, impolite words we need to express our shocking, impolite desires.

Finally, this makes me think of projection: perhaps you feel oppressed in the heavily sexual atmosphere of a porn board (or perhaps you addressed all of furrydom). Hey: I understand. While FA offers a space for sex, a steady diet would itself become a straitjacket, a burden that enervates desire. Taking a break or shifting your focus would help. Or you could make your own positive, OJST-like comic; that would be great. I would love to see it.

Let this topic cool off before reading and commenting.

Interesting thing. I'm not involved alot into the furry community, outside of the arts and RP parts - and those are mostly about going sweaty and big.

So I can't say much about it - but yeah here and there I see a simple, cute picture, and I'm all "dawww, cute". Maybe it's because most people in the furry community are just more "friend with benefits" style of people? Or they don't want to show or display such things in public (DRAMAAAAAAAA!!).

As for the words parts... it's cultural.
Here in France, I never heard any equivalent of "cunt" as an insult. There is insulting word for being a women however. But being called a dick is insulting, too.

And for fancy words for the female sex, I can think of some you may try to introduce?
- The secret garden
- Tierra del Fuego
- bomboniere
- bearded (this one is falling out of use, strangely :D )
- playroom
- raminagrobis (a name at least 400 years old for... heh, cats. And a Rabelais character as well)
- rose
- pearl

I guess you just gonna be poetic and let your imagination give cutes names. People should be able to take a hint.