Interesting.. I assume the fandom is mostly gay males but it is ever growing an there are more bi/poly relationships an people around {or so I have noticed}


I've always been into both genders {tho slightly confused as to why I found girls attractive cause raised in a society where lil girls are supposed to like the princes more} but have always known I have the kinda personality to be monogamous when it comes to relationships.
Cause I am SUPER possessive as it is with close friends, I could never share my boo an would feel too guilty if I strayed anyways. So mono is fine for me XD

Tho I did wanna try a few things out before settling with current partner {each-others' first.. in everything} cause when the Deezmo falls for someone, she falls hard hahaha.
Srs head over heels type I am, so picking partner carefully kinda reason why I hadn't really done anything or had a partner till I was close to mid 20's.

Mmm Mmm! :>

and ikr 8S bewbs are just.... awesome! X'D

Wish I could have boobs too but.. hahah my man is enough I just touch his buns.. not the same but it will do xD

*sets up a bewb-wall for you.............then posts Stainless also* X'3

Hnngghh Stainless fills the boobage quota nicely :3

you may like things I have coming up soon then~ ;D




... ... .. less boobage-wall and more Stainless though ^^;

Back from when I was writing songs for you about DevientARTists, to today's corporate desk jockeying, I went from being a heterosexual, homophobic/transphobic bigot, into a bi-sexual poly that seems to have about as many gays and trans as I do any other friend at this point. Sexuality has changed dramatically for me, and I am really glad that I was properly educated, and have a much more broad understanding of other adults and their life style.

I feel had these changes not been made, I would be voting conservative in the states, and chased out of the fandom by now.

wow~! fairly be step in a wholly new direction for you then! :3

Hmm that would be one hell of a hard statistic to figure out XD Guess one way to get a general idea of the numbers would be to check the pages made for the sexuality type though that isn't really solid as not everyone (like myself) are open enough to join them.

Kinda funny I always just assumed I was bisexual as I literally see no difference between the sexes but after a few years after joining FA friend pointed out I'm actually gender blind (Pansexual) which took some time to get used to as I had been accepting the title bisexual for like 22 years or more XD Though now after 11 years of keeping to myself I think I fall more into the Asexuality category heh ^^;

ikr! the label sticks, aye? :3

and yeah?

Yeah with how this have been for me here trying to do the whole getting close thing hasn't been something I have the right to do. Thankfully since I no longer really no anybody on this island its actually pretty easy to just drop off the map for years on end heh.

'have the right to'? :U what gives you that impression?

(and feeling a bit isolated atm?)

It's a long story and probably not something best discussed in the public eye (It's kinda a downer) I can tell ya if you want to know but somehow I think you sooner not lol. Ah actually since it's been this way for so long I am kinda used to always being by myself.

*include it in the note-reply! :D

Straaaaaaaaaaaaaaight!

- and from the great age when furry fandom was 90% straight males!

Very very happy now that I have a 'forever and ever' mate from within the furry fandom itself.

Cheeeee ^_^ awesome to hear~! <3

Pete did our handfasting for us at Furwag last year!

awwwwwh sweet! (3

I'm polysexual, I could possibly be panromantic but I'm not sure properly XD
When I first discovered my queerness I thought I was bisexual, till I realized that I wasn't at all interested in getting into guys pants so i then identified as lesbian for quite a while, but then I ended up finding attraction in people who didn't fit in the man or woman box and I also got a boyfriend, for ages I had no idea what I should call myself until I found the term polysexual c:
Again, I'm not sure on the panromantic part, I've only been in a relationship that suggests so once -shrugs-

Mmm Mm, and with no other comparison, would be hard to tell aye? :3

Yeah, might find out in the future c:

time will tell~!

hmmm...i think that everyone in the fandom has grown a bit and changed from how they were, sure we're off the beaten track but its a fandom that is for the most part full of genuinely nice and creative, people regardless of sexual orentation.

I wish i could say i am some of the above. But for 6 years (and counting TwT) i've been single... Tho', i define myself as Bi-curious and have no problem to speak of my so-called love life, as i had one major story that didn't end quite well. If that may help people to see and avoid my mystakes, why not. I'm very talkative and as long as the other earing party dosen't seem homophobic i can share freely.

I don't know if i could actually be poly-amorous. I tend to be really strongly related to one person and i am kinda jealous. I know because i have that kind of attitude already with my friend crew, that's comming from a lack of confidence surely, but i love to be the one you see, standing out, making jokes, i have a NEED to feel loved. So, i don't know about you, but ... (of course, if you are willing to share and if it's not too much intime as a question) how do you/would you manage to have multiple relationship ? Do you feel simply "in love" and love to see them as much as you can ? To be honest if i imagine myself in your (or any Poly's) situation, i would fear being with one loved and missing the other instead haha ^^''. Because i am a much less "straight" (in the mind, in the mind i meant) person and tend to think over and over any choice, even if it's only about picking bread in the next street's backery.

In term of attraction i am a very fragile thing and i easyly fall for anything or anyone awsome. Awsome looking, awsome speaking, awsome because they are awsome. I guess i am awsomsexual. And you seem awsome :O

Joke aside i really like to talk about that kind of stuff, it's a shame i almost never read a journal haha. Thanks for sharing anyway and sorry if my response is a lil bit confused and uninteresting x)

Not at all uninteresting! ^_^ (and I hear you on the 'confident,or lets just say 'awesome factor'!, being attractive!)

In the current relationship I'm presently (huhrurhrgrhrhh. SO LUCKY. AURGH. ) in, we are a 3-person set up, all live happily in the same house, and whilst my partners aren't romantically, or as much sexually attracted to each other, they are good friends :3 (which is amazing!) I was with one prior to meeting the other for quite some time, and really wasn't looking to expand the relationship when I first (or even shortly after that) it just kinda... happened after a time.
-The friendship grew to mild sexual interest, (which was able to be explored, as the initial relationship is an open one) sharing is caring and loads of communication is always exchanged, nothing over-ventured where its uncomfortable for any party within, which in turn (for me at least, and my other had expressed so to) lead to a deeper want for ongoing emotional and general support. \:3 Which I guess crosses into relationship status.

Mt top priority amid my lovelies is to make them smile and do whatever I can each day to uplift and support them however they want or need, as they do that a zillion times over for me~ (I could never repay the vast well of gratefulness that they instill in me, but i am DANG well gonna try everyday!)

So yeah, massive amount of communication and respect unto everyone involved, and baby-steps in any uncharted endeavor is the key I think :3 (And as far as the mental process of how I interpret poly is 'love can be freely given at anytime to anyone'. There's no limit on that! just like how we share in multiple friends for all kinds of different reasons.
Between my partners n I, our daily-routines take our attention in different directions, but when we do come together its to enjoy each-other company)
..doesn't hurt that neither of us 3 are all that inclined for jealousy either~ (..however, I've always been of a mind that 'if someone else treats you better, you will be more inclined to hang around with them' so it goes without saying that if either ever found someone they were interested in also, I'd be more than open to letting them explore that as I have been allowed :3 heck if they're new interest is sexy, then it'll be a PAAAARTeeeh! X'3)

I'm male and bisexual, but it leans towards hetero.

Sexually, both guys and girls are fine by me, but slightly higher female preference.
Romantically, I'm only really interested in females for a serious relationship.

heheeee, similar to mine~ (its strange that sexytimes can be 'yeah, whateves with which/both/whatever' but romantic inclination leans a different direction stronger, aye? :D)

It took me a while to realize what my sexuality was. My living environment growing up didn't help. Physically i'm attracted to all genders but am only mentally/romantically attracted to guys.

..oh? (very direct in one way prior?)

I'm unsure why though. I've just never felt that spark with any girl before. Maybe i'm just very picky with them, iunno. Like, I can become great friends with them but I just don't feel that romantic attraction for any girl i've encountered.

..then probably not for you! :3 does it bother you?

A little bit but i'm not strung up about it. I'm happy that I know what I like after being so confused until my early 20's.

MmmHmm! the relief of a better understanding can certainly take that weight off the shoulders!

 professorfennec has done statistical analysis of the furry subculture/fandom. And is probably the most accurate 'guess' as to the composition of the subculture as a whole currently.

https://www.youtube.com/user/Profes.....rFennec/videos

Key points:
- 90% of the fandom of 30 or younger.
- >80% white/Caucasian
- ~80-85% male
- ~44% atheist
- 20-25% exclusively heterosexual
- 10-15% exclusively homosexual

Exclusively heterosexual is apparently still the largest group out of the groups surveyed. This sexuality breakdown is based upon the Kinsey scale, which looks at the overall attractiveness to male/female.

Personally, when it comes to sexuality. Very much believe the Kinsey scale is the most accurate representation of human sexuality. 1-6 scale with 1 being exclusively heterosexual and 6 being exclusively homosexual, then that people can and do fluctuate and move along that scale as they go through life/experiences/circumstances. Also there is an 'x' for those who are asexual, as that does happen from time to time.

The excessive labeling for sexuality which is happening online now-a-days dilutes the well and is highly frustrating (personally), as what they are doing is trying to create more and more specific boxes which match their specific set of kinks/attractive likes/etc...

But, there is no need for that. Those are descriptors for the primary identifier of homo/hetero/bi sexual. Once you have that primary identifier, then you can go further into it and say (for a hypothetical example): "Well, I only really am sexually aroused by people with a good personality and people I know, that is a pretty big thing for me, and I kinda prefer tomboys and girly men. More of a dominant, and like my partner to be submissive. And, right now, am tending to favour men over girls, but could easily go for a girl if they have a good personality." Or something like that.

You see, that description, those secondary descriptive terms after the primary identifier allow for further understanding of the complexity of the sexuality and personal arousal factors. Each one of those points doesn't need to 'be a sexuality' as is what appears to be happening now-a-days.

Anyway, rant over. :3
Hopefully some of the stats and thoughts were at least interesting to you.

Hrm! That's a whole lotta 'not 20-25%'! 8S
-and perhaps! but maybe also the greater our language for for a given parameter, the more of a direct understanding we will garner (or can interpret) from said topic. :3

For example, 'ultramarine' and 'cyan' are both shades of Blue, but they are entirely separate and their own thing to those whom have a need to know colours, and I would describe each as such to discern the difference in most cases. :3

Well, yes, the more direct the language possible the more understanding that can be gathered. But, as previously mentioned, we do have language already, and we can describe things pretty well using it.

But, using the colour example you provided, all of those are a part of 'blue'. So if going up to a non-artist, it is easiest and best to describe "Yes I used a blue palate for this art." And it will make sense to them. For someone well versed then, yeah, you can go into more detail, but it is usually best to start out with 'blue'. Unfortunately there are those who go up to non-artists and say "CYAN CYAN THAT IS CYAN! Can't you see!? You are oppressing me due to not recognising the specific exactness that I am!" Which is frustrating, and makes pretty much no sense other than to try and feel more oppressed... yeah.

Although! Human sexuality is fascinating and interesting, have read many scientific articles on it, and looked into many studies relating to it. As it truly is expansive and fascinating.

As a result. You remember the Kinsey scale previously mentioned? Well, humans are mutable on that scale, the largest of the scales of sexuality.

So when people try to put themselves and others into smaller and smaller boxes, getting more and more specific as to their particular tastes and specific sexuality/likes/wants/needs, they are hugely pigeon-holing themselves. They are trying to describe what is some of the most mutable aspects of their personality. Rather than accepting themselves as the unique and interesting organic beings that they are. They are trying to pin down what they are right then and there, rather than experiencing life and living it.

Again going back to the colours. Talking sexuality as a colour would be like painting a picture with mood ring type paint. Paint that can and does change over time due to environmental factors and time. So, sure, right now it may be cyan, which is a blue, but in a while it may be a teal, or even heading more into the green. Why try and pin down the specifics while having to continually over-analyse who/what you are, rather than just being who/what you are?

That is probably the part am frustrated with. Folks trying to put others and themselves in super specific boxes. Not allowing themselves to grow and change, constantly trying to fit the boxes they took so long to find. Not realising that sexuality is actually a mutable thing, that is normal to be mutable and normal to change.

Oh goodness I couldn't agree more!
..actually one of the main contributing factors in why I, personally, feel that monogamy is quite an outdated concept nowa'days. (I understand the reasoning for its origin, and can fully accept that being the reasons for it being the largest and safest normative, thus why it bleeds on today as the 'loose main ideal', but through the life I've experienced myself and what I have seen of many others.. we're just not geared for it) \:S
And, of course, there are exceptions to the rule! Its amazing we live in a day and age where so much diversity is recognized, accepted (or heavily getting there) and can be fulfilled upon, even if your preferences are quite specific

I'm of a mind that 'using a term/language for things correctly, and enlightening those who care to ask along the way' is still the best we can do for anyone/each-other. :3
Just because someone does not yet know exactly what Cyan is, (themselves, or what it can mean for others) going on the then give them a broader understanding in "Cyan is a kind of blue that is quite a bit lighter and leaning more towards the green-ish side of things. This *points out an example* is Cyan, spelt c-y-a-n. Its also the 'C' in CMYK colour-formating for printing! the other being Magenta Yellow and Black, etcetetcetc colour-theory/more-interesting-stuff-ect!" (as this may well just vest a deeper interest in the first topic at hand also, and only serve to perpetuate the outward flow of knowledge and understanding.) :>

-So, in effect, learning being the best thing anyone can do for themselves can CERTAINLY be helped along with a generous offer of teaching, even what might be mundane stuff to you! because if people are asking, or even listening in at all, its possibly means their open to expanding :3

I'm straight, and been mono-amorous for a long while, but a little over a year ago I realized I'm more for polyamory. I believe in there being no limit to the bounds of love and "how many" or "how much" you can love others. As long as you can love each person to the fullest, there's nothing wrong with it, right?

I dunno if it's just me or what, but I confess I actually kinda love -everyone-... Obviously in different ways; some more romantically than others, some more sexually and some more platonically, but really! And I dunno, it doesn't feel right to confine myself to one person when I believe in loving many. The same applies to whoever I'm with, of course--I'm not against it if they wanna see other people, too! I think probably one of the most important things about polyamory is how those in a polyamorous relationship can have all of their emotional (And sexual) needs met more easily and with less stress on the partner(s) than in a monoamorous relationship.

I think I kinda went off on a tangent there, what was the original question again? xD

TOTALLY. GET YOU. (100%!)

because I (feel, at least) can be horribly demanding for sexy-times attention. 8C curse a high drive! (It's all well n good in theory, and friends/society will lead you to believe that being a ravenous lover always eager is inherently 'a good thing'. but honestly a lot of the time you can end up frustrated. a LOT. and oft times its got less to do with someone letting you down as literally you are pressing the pellet-button so much it runs dry for a bit sometimes <__>; )

So yeah! having a broader spectrum of interests and needs that can create a setting that interests cross-over more frequently is AMAZING!

Guuuh, I know that feeling too well. I can relate. @_@ My sex drive is just way too high. It seems like it's difficult to nearly impossible for most peeps to keep up in a one-on-one relationship. It can be really frustrating! Even more when you're self-conscious of how demanding you are (like in my case) where you might be afraid to try initiating sexytimes too often because you're afraid it might get annoying... .-.;

But yeah, the way I look at it is almost like having a specific circle of friends. I mean, obviously in that case they'd be more than just friends, but the idea is the same! A handful of people you really care dearly for and who mean the world to you. I think it's a wonderful thing when people are able to realize such a relationship. ^_^ Rock on, yo!

good gad, it's like your reading the text-prompt inside my brain~! \:D
-GAH. YES. IKR then you might start doubting your attractiveness/which in turn brings up negative stigma on feeling attracted and initiating <___>; plergh!

And absolutely! Friends are all friends (*BEST PLACE FOR ANY KIND OF ANYTHING BTW!) and there is a level of depth that you both are able swim down to together


*because........ who the heck ventures out into the world 'looking for a partner (sexual or emotional) BEFORE that first step/you like or even know them at all yet? 8/

Yeeaah I just don't get that mentality. xD There's nothing wrong with flirting, of course, but why on earth would people try to date peeps that they don't even know yet? Like... t that point, all you have to go by is physical appearance. They could be the worst person ever under those good looks! At least if you're friends first, you'll know if you like that person well enough to date them right out.

People are so confusing... xD

yupyupYUP. all of that X'3

and COMPLETELY ^_^/ flirting is good, nah GREAT.
I mean, even as a social construct!
retaining the idea that it doesn't necessarily have to 'go all the way' just to participate and its SUCH a good tense-easer, bond-builder! \|'3 ..and fun!

Dang straight! xD
Glad to hear we're so much in agreement on this stuff! I think we'll get along great, bwahaha.

ONWARD..! TO FRANDSHIP!! X3 *tootoooot/pulling out of the harbor, waves crashing upon its mighty bow*

*takes to the crow's nest* "ARR" Mighty vessel has set sail!

..now all we needs a treasure map to all the BOOTY! >83

Yissss 8D
ALL OF THE BOOTY.
ALL OF IT/THEM.
EVER!

IT-THEM AllllllLLLLLLLLLL X'33

...gad... but seriously. :U BOOTY. amiright?

Bwahaha! Yas. :'3 Booty is fantastic~
And hips... And TUMMEHS... x3

AURGH. YESS 8<

all these things! :U (.........you sure your not secretly me when I might be getting up in the middle of the night to sleep-posting)

HMMM. o3o
I could beeeee :D
I COULD ALSO BE THE SPIRIT OF YOUR MILLENIUM PUZZLE
But idk
It does seem we both have similar tastes though! Yaaas

.....gotta test the theory!

-Fave Icecream flavour?
-Fave Fruit?
-Fave colour(s)?

Fave Icecream flavor: Mint chocolate! Followed by vanilla-anything swirl.
Fave Fruit: ...I have to pick? ;A; I love them aaalll... Umm pineapple I guess!
Fave Colors: HMM. I don't think I could pick one, I love so many of them. xD Green is my theme color, purple is another good one, -so many- shades of blue, silver, gold, pink... afsdljl

8U ...........I THINK YOU ARE ME SECRETLY.


WOW.


THAT IS SCARY/CO-INCIDENTAL..!




cant..... cant quite believe your answers actually~~! \8S

WE ARE GLORIOUS~
WE ARE LEGION~
/dons shades/
Aw yissssss.

Great minds think alike, they say. xD

ALSO I SAW THAT ;u; FAVING MY GUY HMNGH THANK YOU! <3

X'S youdidwhutNOOO..! nothing! >XD

and HURGH. YESS >'3 TEAM AWESOME *highfivetrandsformintoFINALFORM* mega GIGA ultra CARN'EYZ ACTUVATE!!

I like ladies.

Kraden can touch my back forever though. SORRY, YOU WERE OUTCLASSED THE MOMENT HE TOOK OVER AND OH GOD HE MELTS ME

Also you know I'm a boring sod xD

VANILLA AS HULL X'3
....but eyh! mah Favu Flavu of icecream! ....(next to choc-mint of course |3 )

-AND NO OFFENSE TAKEN. THAT MAN HAS MAAAAGIK HANDS :U

HELL YEAH YOU LIKE BROWN.. and green... people...

uh...

DELICIOUS.

I'm straight.

Straight but "demisexual" I guess.

MmmMmm! (think I have a slight tendency for demiromance too actually) like.....you have a friend, and their awesome! ..but you never noticed that suddenly they were hott AS o_o

Right? Yeah, I know that feeling. It's usually they don't feel the same way back though. Sigh.

find its the opposite for me actually..
-like one of those 'things that makes them appear more attractive than before' might be a slight gauge of their own attraction to me. (which typically works out well, or is an easier slope in anyways :S)

I'm bisexual. I am however heterosexually married, and I think I've always had a lean towards hetero. I do find women sexually attractive and have been in same-sex relationships. I have been sexually active with both genders.

That said, in my marriage my husband DOES know of my sexual orientation and it has no effect on our marriage. When you marry someone, you can still be attracted to others but that ring on your finger (generally) means those fantasies stay in your head. Now, some people opt for open marriages/relationships where they continue to be committed to each other but seek other gratifications with other people. I have been in an open relationship and it was not for me. I was young and eager and curious but know now it's not for me AT ALL. I am so happy with my marriage and I don't miss a single thing about dating, being single, etc. I am so co-dependent on my S.O. that marriage is the best thing ever. I am so lucky to have such an understanding, patient, loving, and all-over amazing husband, and I wouldn't change a thing in my love-life because I ended up with him

Yay~! :D awesome to hear!

I don't know quite honestly. It is not one of those things that I have time to really mentally contemplate.

..no time like the present! :D

No time in the present.

PRESENTS! :D woo!

Hehe

if we're being super literal.. grey-homosexual/demisexual, panromantic, polyamorous. but while ive been attracted to women in the past i 100% cannot see myself actually being in a relationship with someone female or even female-presenting so i usually just say gay across the board + grey-asexual/demisexual. and i dont realistically believe id ever be in a poly relationship myself either, but i DO have the 'emotional set-up' for it even if i wouldnt go for it probably.

as to be expected i always somewhat knew i was gay, being asexual was always an obvious thing even if i didnt learn the term for it until i was 18ish. pan and demi i learned from tumblr, though i didnt really 'get' demi until last year and then it was like "oh yeah thats right". poly i learned off of FA and i always liked the idea of it in theory, but ive learned now i think i actually am

so the only thing i really learned of because of the fandom was poly, and i wouldnt say any of it affects my experience in the fandom or anything. im getting kinda tired of adult art but its not because im asexual, its because im just.. kinda tired of the adult art the fandom has to offer if that makes sense lmao

i hope i answered this right dhnjrbluh

haven't heard the term 'grey-homosexual' yet, what are the specifics on that btw? :>

-N yeah~ ^^-; there is a lot because I guess people like sexy things? (..specially if that aspect is left wanting lightly, any stimulation 'will do' but multiply this by a zillion lonely n sexually frustrated furries :S )
I like clean/other stuff also ^^-;

its just an easier/shorter way of saying grey-asexual + homosexual! with grey-asexual being like the middle ground between asexual and not-asexual.

and yup! like im totally cool with it, im all for sexual expression and junk as long as everyone involved is fine with it. but yeah, its just.. everywhere lmao. it starts to run together. feel like one can do more with clean art since youre not stuck with 'requirements' in it.

oh GODD yeah..! 8D
Artwork, I feel, is all about expression of all sorts (whether that be 'gad want squishey wubbles' or 'I am in awe of') ^^; so yeah~~ just another reason why I really love the DeviantART website (....and for the life of me can't fathom the small pet-hate that a lot of FA users feel for it) \|S

sexual orientation: HORNY (like a month ago I was meh but apparently spring is mating season lolll)
romantic orientation: kind of split between cute sweet nerdy girly girls and tough feisty tomboy girls. and like 99% monogamous, I'm not opposed to the occasion something sexual with someone else in the right case o,o

The only thing getting deeper into the furpile has done is um fetish wise. kobolds and fembois and bondage, oh my!

Other interesting things I've experienced? Not enough ;D

heh! ^^; weeelp I'm sure with that kinda enthusiastic attitude, it'll come! X'3

Heheh, you said "come" x3~

Oh, a lot of people say like "furries are all gay guys", from what I've seen it seems like most of the artists are female. but that may just be my experience since I have several female artist friends lol. Also, even in Texas there are lots of gay guys out in the furry, and not just in the big city. Tho most furries out here in the country are lurkers, I was shocked when someone finally had an actual furmeet :o

Mm! XS (n hurr!)

but yeah~! :D its funny seeing the 'general idea consensus/VS/actuality!' :3

If I'm to go by the Kinsey Scale, I'm straight with a few rare gay tendencies. In layman's terms, 99% of the time I'm into women, I'll only pursue women, I'm dating a woman, but the remaining 1% I'll be attracted to males under very specific circumstances.

MmmMmm! ^_^

I'm going to be one of the boring ones in that I've always been a heterosexual male who likes women and hasn't ever thought of myself romantic or sexual with a man. I will say this though, my appreciation and acceptance for non-hetro relationships and beyond male/female gender roles has increased over the years. I was never bigoted towards anyone of orientation not mine, but I was also very ignorant of just how many types of romance/orientations are out.

In regards to art and content whereas I'd have stuck with pure female only or hetro stuff several years ago I can appreciate well done gay or trans type things if the mood grabs me besides my usual and never feel it diminishes my own orientation or question that I'm 'repressing' myself. I know if faced in a real-life situation I'd stay flaccid at being intimate with a man, but it wouldn't disgust me, and if the opportunity came like say a threesome with another man and I with a woman, I'd gladly work with the other man to please our partner without needing to compete or feel 'gay' if any of our stuff touched. (truth be told if a girl ever wanted a double-vag treatment I'd be down. I'm confident enough that 'dicks touching' doesn't mean gay, hell probably add stimulation if anything).


As for relationships so while I am mostly on the monogamy train I'm open to exploring other things if the opportunity arose, and everyone was in the clear and know-how.

So I guess I'm vanilla straight confirmed but open-minded to things.

..Not at all something that graded down either~! :D (actually quite like how confident and open and comfortable you are with all things outside!) .....that whole thing where exposure will 'turn' a person..............XS whuuuttutututueven?

-and honestly? I think that's just the way it kinda works. :U With my current set-up, it wasn't as though I was looking for or left wanting beforehand, the opportunity arouse, maturity was retained by all and feels snuck in enough to facilitate~ (and GUDDANG am I ever so VERY fulfilled and happy for any of the extra effort that went in!) WELL WORTH it!



...I also just love how completely straight-forward and geneuine the term 'double-vag treatment' was said in that comment |D (This amuses kitteh~!) XS

Years and wisdom really do help mature a person and honestly despite how toxic it can be the internet has done wonders to expand my mind.

ooonly too true ~_~;

If you think about it, this relates to the question about why we're furries.

If you ask a bit, a lot of furries are or have been outsiders in one way or another, like being different, thinking differently or simply very bad luck at some point during life. By being an outsider, it's often more difficult to relate to other people. But as we're the social animal we are, we need something to relate to! This can be a great paradox for people who struggle with relating to other people. Anthropomorphism is one powerfull way of making just about anything relatable, and for many a way out of this paradox.

According to this theory, the more likely someone is to be "different" in their society, the more likely they are to find the Furry Fandom appealing. This might explain the numbers, if they actually differ signifficantly from the general population though!

True, true~
though I think there are oddities that may happen upon the idea and never really feel drawn to it also (though these will never be recorded anywhere) its strnage and amazing that something as simple as 'fictional talking animal people' can comprehensively cover and spark the interest and pull for socializing for such a large number of people :3

I'm happily straight ^_^ While I do admit I have seen a bit of artwork here and there with some handsome males, they simply don't do it for me in a way that a pretty lady does.

Those curves...

and no shame in! :D
(..I'm not sure that anyone can help or 'change' their natural inclinations) though I'm sure that a lot can be learned to better express and define (and sometimes deny and surpress) so

For me, I'm as straight as an arrow. Throughout my life, I've never had any leanings towards my own sex, despite being raised by family members who were very much against gays and lesbians cause some stupid ancient book told them it was wrong...
But even after I greatly loosened the chains of religion around me, I still felt no urging towards the same sex.
That having been said though, I harbored no resentment towards those that did feel that way...

However...a paradox emerged for me when I became aware of the furrydom...

While I have no sexual attractions towards my own sex, what I soon realized was I had no sexual attraction towards gay humans.
I found to my surprise that a fair amount of gay furry porn could be quite arousing, sometimes even more so than the straight porn. It's something I've been trying to grapple with as to whether or not this makes me a hypocrite.

I don't feel like I'm a hypocrite though...just as how some people are attracted to blacks, but not orientals or vice-versa, the same logic could be applied here...I have no attraction towards gay human males, but get aroused by gay furry, scalie, marine, etc. males

But I don't know Carn....'does' having a sexual interests toward gay furry males, but not gay human males make one a hypocrite?

I don't think so~ :>
-There may just be a lack of experience (and interest there-in) with a real-world setting as the opportunity presents itself less without taking the extra effort to make it so. (and if the interest isn't there, the appeal to push through just isn't there) where as online the raw stimulus is bare-front facing, and presented in what is often and artistically exaggerated and enticing 'glamorous' fashion.

I have a friend whom was very on-par with this kinda of in on the fandom also (and for a while was contemplating his own sexual attraction to other people in general, in favour of the more fantastical, almost exclusively for a while there I think?) but that's a very good example demi-sexuality (in which one only feels attracted once there is more of a vested friendship or interest in someone more than base aesthetic appeal)

but chya, he grew to gain some experience and though still retains that fondness for the fictional also, his palette has expanded more for real-world tastes and settings as well now :3

Currently somewhere between Bi and Pan, so it's safest to assume Poly.

Romantic and sexual do conflict a bit, because romantically all genders are welcome to me - it's more about the person really - but sexually it's... a bit complicated to get out of the M-F comfort zone - when dealing with trans, obviously - but it's still game anyway. Yes I did go with F, M and Trans. Also, I should note that my interest fluctuates a lot, on whether i'm more into gals or guys and such.

And my feel about it... freedom. I absolutely love being this open in this sense, the bummer is the judgement i get constantly for my way of being. Put that together with my tendency to take nudity, sex and etc naturally and bam! have people being wary of me, even though i'm harmless. Really. Now, my sexuality defines me as that is yet another thing that i'm open, varied, multiple and... neutral even. It just adds up.
About the fandom... the fandom helped me a lot in showing me that i wasn't straight and all, plus that all genders are nice. Put that together with my furiends letting out the fag in me :v

Fun fact: I've heard that I do some stuff that neither straighties nor gays do, which makes some find me more interesting and others just weirder.

like more convoluted kink-stuff do you mean?

and yeah? :U can't say I've ever experienced too much negative treatment at the hands of my orientation (yet luckily!) I mean, there will be those who stop and take another look at a girl walking down the street holding the hands of two guys and laughing/talking/occasional peck-kiss, but that's to be expected because its a little off that beaten path. (& a couple of friends might have said nothing but had a mildly confused expression a few times in the beginning also, but to those who care to ask its all explained :3)

-I'm actually quite grateful that one partners family all seem to be quite accepting, embracing there'of in fact ^^;

And interesting!
I put myself down as 'bisexual' as i have yet to experience attraction to anything else outside of those parameters, though not opposed to the idea that it could happen :3 (like, wouldn't deny attraction 'just because' if the time and place were to present itself... I don't think!)

like... i'm an oral fan, and i've heard that most straight guys don't enjoy doing oral on gals ._. whaaaaat?? add that with me often acting as if genderfluid sometimes, transcending M-F barriers and such. you could say that kink-stuff included~ comes with being open to new possibilities
(when i was little i used to wonder "what if i was a girl" and then "what if i could shapeshift between M and F" - guess it was a warning of what to come heh)

The judgement comes mostly from the customs of where i live, Brazil, where Catholicism really rules people's minds. Recently even an "Evangelical Army" showed up, and in their agenda, are spank gays to death. yeah. The state doesn't does much because the church has heavy influence there, therefore very few gay rights were approved, for instance. sounds like medieval times... i plan to leave as soon as i can. people here are too religious, in the extreme meaning of it. it's not as bad as some countries in Africa, but... once a dad and his son were spanked to death because they hugged each other and were confused for a gay couple. and such things are sorta often.

Half of my family tries to be open-minded, and the other half is very religious, but luckily not extremely so. I often say i'm Bi because people have a hard time understanding more than that - sometimes even Bi itself. The attraction for trans you talked about... it's funny because in general i'm simply "open for business", kinda independently of my own physical preferences. sounds like Pan, but i dont agree with some of the descriptions given to it, that they fit me.

oh OOOH. YES (D Oral-sex is GREAT!! (both flavours!)
-I CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY ANYONE EVER ISN'T ALL ABOUT THAT..! o~o; someone you (hopefully!) like is letting you kiss their MOST INTIMATE NICE-PLACE.
THAT'S AMAZING. WTF

And yeaaaahhh~~ :S I get a bit' of that 'male brain' tendencies now and again (like, though I'm female, the thought and practice of penetrating another is just huhurrghhhh awesome~)

-Also.... 6____9; that is absolutely nuts btw~~ 'spanked to death'....? holy whut~~?

n sorry to hear~! :S sounds like sit-com kinda setting-family ^^-;

I'm asexual :|
i don't really disclose it cos noone cares, its really not something to be constantly broadcasting

as someone said to me "straight people think you're gay and gay people think you're straight" but the answer is really none, no sexual preference at all.
sure i can handle and appreciate tasteful nudity but sex i'm all like eeeeewwwwww, not something i can do myself. though i do find boobs to be awesome XXD
though funny thing is that I like people for their personality XXD

lol, NATURES air-bags! X'3

And yay! :D (tis why asking! ^_^/) n hey, if it all works out for you/your happy, what else matters? :D
-Do you think that second aspect is a romantic-attraction playing in? *or more a heightened sense for friendships, perhaps, in the absence of finding sexual-attraction appealing?

Like I guess i've met a few people where we just connect and just have a similar train of thought on fun, just random discussions, just you know it just ticks between me and that person. and it sorta develops into a sort of 'bromance' type style relationship, purely platonic.
So yea, friendship comes on but it takes a while to get some sort of initial connection since we're all shy and nervous for first meeting of anyone, but after a while of talking sometimes its a hit or miss with personalities.

fair 'nough :3

and heck YEAH for Bromance! X'3

I'm kindof boring as far as this place goes, I'm straight in both romantic and sexual terms.

As for changing over the years? Not really either, just the type of females i like changed i guess, probably comes with maturity/work. Takes a special kind of crazy to date someone with my job -shrugs-

I'll bet! (you have a special someone atm?) :3

Currently no, last relationship ended rather... abruptly so I'm not really looking. That and I'm about to go into some rather intensive training for the unit I'll be going to so I don't want to put someone else through stress of not being able to know whats going on for upwards of two months :\
That and my job can demand much of my time and attention which can strain relationships badly so I'm cautious about entering a new relationship -shrugs- X3

MmmmMmmmm~ makes sense.. That hard to live with atm?

Not so much hard (at least for me) but a royal pain in the ass at times. Currently my life is class/work, pt, eat and sleep so finding time to maintain a healthy relationship with someone is a pain. Also finding someone who understands what entails being in a relationship with someone whom is enlisted is difficult I've discovered :F

I'll bet! hope it gets easier for you soon! :3 (is the job at hand fulfilling enough for the moment at least?)

It will eventually, once things get settled in more (might take a few years but it'll happen). As for my job it is definitely fulfilling, so far I've enjoyed my time in the Corps so I'm happy for the most part (can't help but miss having someone to hug/cuddle/ect sometimes :P )

DAKIMAKURAAA!!!! *koff jk! X'3

but yeah, I'll bet! how much time do you get to spend off base atm?

Any time after 4:30 pm during the weekdays and weekends, provided that you're back by 8:00ish and have a buddy with you. Don't really get to take leave cause I'm at a schoolhouse currently but that's fine with me heh. Usually manage to get out if here every couple of weeks.

..and not much population/stuff around your escaping-area?
(have a friend who was in the Navy @ one point, so understand the intensity of being grounded in one spot)

Yeah the local town is pretty small and doesn't have much, the nearest "big" city is about an hour and a half drive away. By all means neccesary its not that long of a drive, but I don't have a car so I don't get out much :\

ahh yeah.. makes it difficult~

I'm definitely straight. I've never felt any kind of sexual or romantic attraction to my own sex, and despite the constant insistence from others in the fandom since I began socializing within it that "Oh, that'll change", I'm still about where I was in regard to my sexuality. I just like women too damn much. :v

That being said, I certainly don't have a problem with other sexualities. I hang out pretty often with my gay friends, we greet each other with hugs, sometimes we'll chill out five to a couch, closer than one would typically thing comfortable. It's whatever, I'm comfortable enough in my sexuality that it doesn't bother me, but they know not to try messing around with me, 'cause I'm not all about that.

I understand polyamory, and I can understand the appeal behind it, but I'm a very focused person when I'm involved in a relationship - I honestly can't even imagine trying to divide my romantic attention between two or more people. One person is all that I want or need, romantically, or even sexually.

Mmm~! ^^-;

It's strange how sometimes people can feel such strong urge to 'convert' others \:S never understood it myself! (....unless of course they like you and currently your orientation doesn't suit facilitating that, but that'd be about the only reason I can fathom the want to :S *ectect, of course in that circumstance, they should be taking into account your feelings/etcect/fineprint/etc)

but chya! it's not for everyone! :3 and nothing wrong with having differences! (..kinda what makes the world interesting, aye? :D )

Happy to hear that you were able to take that journey and that you enjoyed it. From the comments it looks like a lot of people took a second look at themselves at some point, fandom or not.

It took awhile for me to come to terms with it, but being exposed to loads of great people in the fandom and developing some of the deepest friendships of my life has made me more comfortable admitting that I'm bi. Honestly, listening to other people's stories probably gave me a better understanding of romance and its nuances than most textbook education or parental advice could've. It also helps to have a place where I can freely discuss that sorta thing with others, which for some reason furries really don't seem to have a problem with in casual conversation.

Being single, I'm still on the fence about personal feelings on romance, apart from open and willing to experiment, so I'm curious to hear what others have to say.

ikr~?? ^^-; furries are great!
-that.. 'odd' and sometimes overbaring friend, but SUPER genuine more often than not X'3 (..... .... .. .whether that be for better or worse also <3)

And yay! :D
Every bit of information is useful!

Complicated has been my marker point.

Pre-fandom, it was easy to say I was straight. No more necessary than basic figuring, I don't find guys attractive, I do find girls attractive, simple.

In the fandom though I have found that I can be close for people, and that closeness blurs lines in sexuality. The part as to who is attractive is still there, but if I get caught in the moment I find myself being close to guys as well.

yeah? :D (demisexuality perhaps?)

Had to look that word up, in a way... maybe. Not sure.

Long answer:

Demisexual doesn't seem to be right as my attraction does still hit for girls. Now that in its own right is a bit odd as I do know I want to get to know a girl by personality before anything. I can't do one night stands. Had one once, and kind of messed me up. I get attached way too easily.

For me, physical contact is something I need. Not sexual based necessarily, just need to be close to people (all too rare honestly.) But when it has happened, I do find myself lost in the moment and that's when sexuality blurs. Another is admittedly my being a submissive, if the right kind of person takes command I fall to it. You have no idea how the logical side of my brain absolutely rails against that but I'm also getting recent heavy lessons on how emotional ignores all logic (Like falling hard in love with a person who I knew wouldn't be able to return the level of emotion and would like me to find someone that can.) One of those problems is if I get a pause in the heat of the moment feelings where my logic can catch back up, I have a bit of a mild freak out so the "don't question it, just go with it" doesn't so much work for me. Alas, my finding available straight girls out there has been nigh impossible, so understanding if that same reaction is there, I haven't been able to find out.

Hrrnmm, completely~ (the more complex the needs we need met, the narrower the draw-pool is) but that is why the internet is such a GLORIOUS place to socialize and meet such broad spectrum! :3
-which in turn (hopefully!) leads to a want for IRL meeting/expanding and then perhaps more from there (if the opportunity and shared-interest presents itself) :3

Aye, the net is a good thing for that. I will admit even with it, it is difficult as I am such a touch oriented person so distance is rough, combined with not knowing really who I am looking for and a low self esteem, I tend to not do much in the relationship realm. ^^;; I mean I've not been on a date since at least 4 years…

A lot of that I'm still working through but there are some mindset things I might have to go against myself… if I can figure out the how ^^;;

Can always try new things/new approaches in baby steps :3 (never have to jump in the deep-end ever!) just to see how things work out differently!

Heh, well one of the big changes for me is being more forward on approaching. I'm a 6 foot tall male who's heavily built, but would rather be asked out, but society norms pretty much says that's just not going to happen.

..then again, who wouldn't wanna be on the receiving 'safer' end? \:S
-This is not to say its out of the realms of possibility, but if your ever in a position where you are left wanting for something, yeah, taking the initiative may be the only logical next step :P

I am bound to a dead woman; whom I cannot seem to let go.

ohwow! what happened? (you ok?)

I'll try to make a short version: grew up with a girl, known her since kindergarten. We knew we were going to get married since the 6th grade. Got even closer as our friends seemed to die off left and right. Then she and her family were killed by a drunk driver several years ago. And as much as I don't want to spend this life alone I can't see how its fair to ask another female to love me when I still love another woman. If I could ever be lucky enough to find a woman to love me. So far my luck isn't that spectacular. Due to the way the economy and politics work; I've been relocated and am now working in the city she was killed in; the year we were supposed to get married. Luck just doesn't exist.

Roundabout way of answering your question, but yes, I'm hetero. Unfortunately single, straight women are already a rare demographic.

oh my good gravy! D:/ I am so sorry to hear of such compounded misfortune.
(Truly is quite a sad story, and the same year? ........ that's just cosmic crazyness)

I hope you can find love and support again, even if you never fully let go (..nor do I personally think it necessary to do so honestly) of that other whom was dear to you. But indeed that is quite a unique emotional situation.

-You holding up ok at present?

I'm still here; not much else I can say.

There is a lot to be said for surviving~ \:3

May all things head on upward from here for you d00d~!

I would say I'm bi, but tilting towards females here

yeah? :D in both senses?

I don't actually know my romantic one. I know I'm in a relationship tho

And that all lovely/awesome? :D

Indeed. Kinda hard tho. My mate is currently living in Australia, making it hard for us to meet xwx

Nooooooes~! (and you are situated innnnn *flips page to the postage thingie made up the other day* Norway wasn't it) guuuh, bummer!
-Which state they live in? :3 I'm current;y within Melbourne Victoria! *do they 'convention-it-up at all? :3 mighta met them aready??

I think she lives a bit north of Melbourne. 100 km and goes to a university there. She hasn't gone to any conventions yet, but she wants to.

oh kule! same city even ^^-; she should~! Convince her (...and COME YOURSELF! 8D) to FurDU!

I can barely afford living at the moment, and I need a new PC. I doubt I can make it, even if I chose to set up a GoFundMe thingy <w<

:C bleern and double bummer.. (woulda' been nice to meet chya!)

one year! X'3

I'll see. Need to get a proper job first XD
If I get a proper job might I come next year.

There's also skype calls too, just for chatting and shenanigans

w00! :D and totally~! shall look forward to it!
(just packed up your commission today, will dunk in the post after the weekend!)

It's just to poke me on Skype. I'm a very chatty person <w<

And yays!

well this is an interesting hot topic!

but you know honestly I would consider myself bicurious/hetro and mostly being on this site it not only opened up my views, but it helped me devle into a bit more of my kinky side I have notoriously kept hidden... have a bit of a thing for bondage

but besides that had came across a friendly face who is very opened and relaxed about talking about kink and sexuality we started to connect a bit more and happily are together

will still say I like females as well but am very happy with how things are ^w^

great to hear! ^____^/

-Is nice to find others that are willing and into similar interests yeah? :3 *specially when you can explore it together~!

The topic of sexual and romantic orientation is an intriguing one. A topic I have discussed countless times with a close friend and always ends with some along the lines of “forget the labels, as long as people are happy with whatever situation they are in and no one is hurt it's all good”. Let's face it labels can be tricky to keep track of and sometimes we don't even realise a name for something exists.

Focusing on myself though and this should be interesting with me never having anyone I'd list as a partner. I know I'm definitely bisexual, whether I lean towards one gender more than the other I assume would come down to the person's personality.
An assumption I base on behaviour with close friends. I tend to take on what you could label the masculine role around girls, while with guys I may become more emotionally submissive if that makes sense.
I am a tomboy and I'm used to having my own space and time to myself, I think that when I do find someone whatever relationship we have would possibly be an almost friends with benefits style thing, but with more cuddling and a little romance.

Ohyeah~! :3 its a good way!

and yup |3 makes sense to me as a great way 'round to go!

I guess you could call me straight at heart. I couldn't imagine marrying anyone who wasn't a woman, and I mean one from birth onward. I'm not sure I could have a relationship with a transsexual individual as it kinda weirds me out. I would not be an ideal partner for them, and I'm sorry that I could not give such an individual the love they are looking for, or perhaps not in the way they like. Even being friends might be difficult, especially given my upbringing and the beliefs I hold. I tend to keep from talking about them 'cause I'm afraid furries will kick me out or something.

As for physical and/or sexual attraction, I blame porn. Furry porn. Used to be all I'd fantasize about is men and women getting it on. Not sure if I had any lesbian fantasies, but if I did, there was probably guys involved later. I didn't even know what being homosexual was until maybe jr. high school (like 7th to 9th grade) when my parents told me about it. My first image was of two guys rubbing their dicks together and I remember feeling disgusted by it now. Hell, I couldn't even look at gay porn with real humans in it 'cause it turned me off. Furry porn though? Most gay furry porn didn't turn me off. I'm not sure why. Maybe because it wasn't humans so I didn't have the instinctual reaction of repulsion. It was more of a "meh" feeling. After a while, though, even the gay art started turning me on. Today, I could probably look at real guys doing it in a video and it'd be a turn on. I just have a preference for furries doing it, perhaps due to the exotic nature of human/animal hybrids. And I do know my first online sexual RP (cybersex, tiny sex, whatever you wanna call it) was with another guy... which kinda tore me up later, and I admitted to my parents. Dunno what happened to him; hope he's okay. We lost touch.

'Course, not all my online sex stuff has been with guys. Maybe "GIRLs" (Guy In Real Life) now and then, but there have been actual women. And this is where things get kinda weird because my response to men isn't the same as women. Guys, I can fool around with 'em a lot, but I really don't see it as anything but playing. I don't want a relationship with a guy, and... I hurt someone because of that. He thought we were an item. I was just fooling around as usual. Probably why I'm hesitant to start again. But I've had online girlfriends, and when I sat down and thought about it, I had a sudden realization: I never cheated on them. Not once. If I did, I don't recall it, and the closest I got involved my then-girlfriend anyway... and my ex, who introduced me to her... who also was with a friend of mine. (You've no idea what a relief it is to me that the AIM chat timed out; I felt very bad and my friend was rather upset with me.)

All this rather reinforces my theory on my sexuality: I started out straight. Furry porn and sexual RP's desensitized me to the point where I could find the male form sexually appealing, but (again likely due to porn) only in certain body types (which many furries don't seem to have). Also, personality is important, and while I'm sure I'm being unfair to them, many of the local furries I've met who have a body type I like seem kinda jerkish, so that's a turn-off. May just be they're giving off vibes like those who used to bully me (just thinking of that now, to be honest) which would explain the turn-off. Only one guy, one furry, ever had both the body type and personality that made a strong attraction possible. I was real tempted to lose my real, physical virginity to him, and for the first time I found the person more attractive than the fursona itself, when it's usually the other way around (guys, if you're round, why do you have beefy fursonas? for that matter, why do I? I'm not that buff!). Caused me quite a bit of distress, but nothing came of it. In any case, we keep in touch, but I fear what might happen if he ever came to live in my city. I hate that two of my firsts (first online sexual experience, first heavy petting) were with guys. I'd like to at least save my first kiss for a woman, and my virginity for my wedding night.

But when you're single and horny, and you get lonely... the night gets very, very cold. I think I've done a lot of the things I regret simply because I don't want to be alone. Even though I believe in the Christian teachings on sex, I find it rather hard to live up to them. Yet I don't think I could let them go. The faith's part of me now. Either I've got to get over my issues with women and get married... or continue living a life I don't like and maybe die alone with little to show for it.

Erf, sorry. That got a little... whatever. But I think you'll find that separating sex from emotion and the soul to be very tricky. Perhaps even blasphemous or an atrocity. We are not merely a collection of parts, a grab-bag of conflicting urges and compulsions. We're people. And what you do, think and feel affects your whole person. If you're going to talk about sex, talk about the heart as well. They are tied together and woe to those who seek to sever that bond. They may find afterward it was a mistake they cannot undo.

So... was that enlightening? Helpful? Total BS? I guess I'll let others decide. I'm not feeling myself tonight, so I've no energy for an argument. Decide for yourself. The truth will be known one day. I hope I will have done the right thing in the end.

Nothing to argue \:3 (your own life/experience is yours to tell/have)

I wonder if you are perhaps a little more (learned overtime, but potentially baseline as well) bisexual than you give yourself credit for.
Now, that doesn't mean you are (or have to be) bi-romantically inclined, and I'm not trying to edge in that idea that mind and body are (or should be) separated either,.. because heck! I believe that there is a strong connection! (for me personally, but also because we are in a sense of one whole that makes up many parts that rely on each-other also, if you really wanna break it down to the cellular level! :3)

I'm surprised to hear of your adventures into (what I'm guessing your religious beliefs would dub more tabboo?) practices, and sorry to hear that has been quite a struggle for you, and potentially others.
Do you feel as though you are a little trapped by this predicament? (and what is the best solution, do you think, to the current conflict in that?)


Also, I think it'd be worth reading this article for interests sake. *Not because I am trying to convince or coerce you otherwise from the standpoint you aim for, but as a story and insight as to the life-experience of another human being. :>
(link is safe btw!) ^_^/

Heh. The words in that link kinda sum up what I believe. "True love waits." Problem is while love may wait, you need to be the one working your butt off to be ready for it. I still have too much in me that makes me an imperfect mate, or even an unsuitable one. I have a woman I'm still sweet on, but I worry that I'm just using her. Hell, even by not talking to her I may be doing that. Easy to set up a woman as some "Unattainable Goal" of sorts, especially if you never talk to her. There are no doubt things within me that prefer being a victim, and are rebelling against recent steps taken to improve my lot in life.

As for being "bisexual", I would argue that we all have at least one situation in which we would be willing to mess around with someone of the same sex/gender. This is without getting into probabilities or the extremes that might be required for some people. Or even whether such "bisexual leanings" are healthy. I do know I'd give up all possible sexual experiences with men if it meant I could just have a group of guys to hang out with on a regular occasion and could trust with my heart. I missed out on that growing up (part of being bullied, sad to say), and I would argue that there's a good chance, in my case at least, that the lack of genuine male affection has screwed me up a little. I think it's very telling that the nights I've been most submissive in my sexual RP's were when I was feeling vulnerable and in need of a strong, male presence to comfort me. And the only thing I could think of at the time was to simply, well, "lift my tail" as it were to a friend. Even got porn out of it, heh, though I won't tell anyone that's me in the picture. Doesn't look like Bandit, so no one knows if I don't tell them.

As for me, I think the best solution is what the Apostle Paul advised: since I can't seem to keep myself out of sexual sin while single, I should get married. Sadly, I'm a little bit of a goof and... not sure what the proper word is as I don't wish to be too cruel to myself. In any case, I'm not that great with women, and my hormones get in the way. And I don't want to default to trading sex for love again. It doesn't really last and I don't wish to abuse the wonderful women who are out there in the world looking for someone to love them. I'd rather be the man she needs so we both can stop spending nights alone in empty beds. Even in the summer time, it gets a little cold.

Erf, reading this article now... yeah, that's what happens when people think sexual purity is somehow the most important thing in Christianity. It's not. I reread Mere Christianity again, and I can tell you sexual sin is the lowest one in priorities. Yeah, it's not good. It has terrible consequences, like an inability to form lasting relationships later on (gee, wonder if that's my problem? =P). But putting people up on a pedestal 'cause they're a virgin? Then treating them different because they're married but not a virgin? That doesn't seem healthy to me. I don't think it's waiting that was the problem in her case so much as how it was handled. *sigh* And as much as I don't wish to be uncharitable to my fellow Christians, I keep hearing the worst things coming from Baptists. I don't know why. I think there may be an infestation of Pride among their members, and that's a severe problem! Pride is the ultimate sin in Christianity. I'd rather you be someone who feels guilt over your sin than proud at how much "better" you are than others. Pride leaves no room for God or real love. And the tricky thing is it doesn't even have to give you good feelings. Convincing yourself that no one could love you, not even God, and focusing only on your self and your wretchedness... well, that could be a form of pride too. No room for God there either, so I wouldn't want the guilt to get that bad either. Just enough that people feel they must make things right somehow.

Finishing that article... I don't agree. I don't believe she's right, as I consider our whole beings belonging to God. But! I would contend that's not what she was taught. She was taught her sexuality belonged to the church, or at least to the one she went to and the society within and around it. This is not right. I can't say I know what should have been done. I have a general idea, a feeling in my soul, but it's past one in the morning for me and I dare not try to write it down for fear of getting it wrong. Something like this needs a precision of words. Perhaps I'll post something tomorrow or Thursday, when I'm more awake. I do know her church got it wrong, and now another soul leaves them, and possibly God as well. Not something you want happening if Christianity is really true.

I think it's best to wait, I really do. However, sex is not a service to the husband. It's meant to be something both people are to enjoy. I know a Baptist, and he's heard this awful, horrible scenario much like this woman's account. I wouldn't doubt she had some "God-fearing ladies" who told her all about sex... or rather, filled her head with their opinions of it. How it was dirty, uncomfortable, and how men "always want it", and thus made it seem bigger than it was. Worse than it was. Then she's left in the room with him after the wedding, and the poor guy had no clue what he was doing... and every lie she ever swallowed comes true. He's seen it happen or is close enough to know it has. And while I don't agree with him on a lot, the fact that I've heard about it from two sources now... and both with Baptist backgrounds... is troubling.

This isn't right. This shouldn't be happening. And no, I don't believe in the fairy tale she was told. Marriage ain't some magical thing that just happens 'cause you do the right things or you got your shit together. The metaphor I've read and agreed with is slamming two people into a submarine and wishing them a wonderful journey. (Consequently, it's a miracle many marriages make it; the occupants tend to drive each other nuts within the first week to month.) It's not something for everyone, no. And it's a lot of work. But something is rotten in the Bible belt, something that is hurting both people and the faith. And I don't truck with that. Not at all.

Thank you for helping me identify brethren in need of my help. I don't know how bad it is, and I'm probably conflating it in many ways. But in any case, it's time to start shooting down lies and the demons who tell them. Even if the only thing at stake is someone's wedding night... well, that's enough for me. Sex should be satisfying for both partners. If it's not, something's wrong. And they should get help.

Although... I think I see the point. Virginity shouldn't be too dear a part of your identity, not unless you have plans to be chaste for life and have no trouble doing that. (From what I know, the Apostle Paul never married and was chaste, but then he probably didn't have my sex drive. =P) Even then, sexual sin is, again, not the worst sin. If anything, it's sort of an "animal sin", something to do with the flesh, and God likes matter anyway. He made sex nice. But Pride? Pride's a sin of the spirit, and it always leads to worse sin down the line. I'll bet you every single dictator and conqueror was guilty of the sin of Pride. And how many of them do you think will bend their knee in respect toward God by their own will? How many will be forced?

Anyway, I'll have to try and keep that in mind. Losing my virginity before marriage might be a huge blow to me... but it will not be the end of me. I am still myself. And I will still be myself whether I enter heaven as a virgin or not (and I'm kinda hoping not to =P). So long as I seek God and can enter heaven by his will, what else matters? Hell, I'm not really a virgin in spirit... so should I worry so much if I lose the physical virginity before I'm ready to?

Perhaps. Perhaps not. But whether it's a crippling blow or just another entry on a long list of disappointments... I'll cry. I'll weep. I'll mourn. And then, with time and good friends, and God's healing touch... I'll move on.

But you'll forgive me if I still seek to avoid it. I would like to at least do my best to keep one promise to myself. I just hope I can kill whatever pride the achievement would arouse within me. I need that room in my heart for God, not my selfish nature! They can't both fit. =P

...tired of my sleep-deprived rambling yet? XD

Actually, I find it quite fascinating! \:S (you present a very interesting dichotomy all in one person)

Though I can't help but feel internal struggle in your writing. You sound uncomfortable in your current position in life (as well as a few other minor aspect which might need some clearer introspective focusing in on to dissect what the core any issues, which only then once you have a better understanding of the root can you properly deal with it in such a way that gives proper closure. Only really then can moving on to healing whatever damage has built up, without the same issue becoming a re-percussive cycle in which that never truly gets solved.)

And is not the matter of dispensing with excessive pride simply to just not in the first place? :S
-Rather than hoping to be a certain kind of person, just being that person. In a situation that calls for a wise-mans words, ask yourself 'what would a wise man say', and simply do that~ n_n

In no way was I trying to dissuade you from any goals by the way! You life is in deed your own! :D and d00d, if you ever do not wish to give your virginity(or anything else for that matter!).. then dont! 8S very simple and no need to regret if you ask yourself that small question each time! 'Do I actually want this?' 'Is this doing right by others?'
Your body/life/mind/attention/affections/etc are all yours to give! The best we can hope for in life is to find good enough people/friends that we trust enough to -want- to give such to them, not feel obligated.
-About the only thing I would advise is perhaps to remain genuine unto others. That's just a matter of respect, which I think most are deserving of (as a bare minimum), and 99-times out of 100 will acknowledge and appreciate such.

But yeah, not sure if you had answered the loose questions I has asked last time either(?) which was in a nut-shell;
-Are you happy with your current standing?
-if not, what is your active game-plan? :3

I guess I missed those questions earlier. I was a little tired. Also, sorry if I come off a little defensive. A lot of people have said things that irritate me because they somehow think that no one's asked me that in my entire life. e_e Also because some think that any attraction to men on my part automatically means I'm an idiot and should believe as they do, instead of figuring things out for myself. I've yet to find someone who has a more rational, logical explanation for why things happened the way they did in my life. Until they do, I'm sticking with the one I got, though I thank you for not being one of those people. =P It gets tiring after a while.

As to your questions:

- No.
- Not a whole lot.

The second kinda explains the first, doesn't it?

If conversation is met with hardship, then I can imagine that is more effort, certainly. But, by the same token, if you meet new people in life and they simply 'haven't been brought up to speed' with your inner workings then it is worth taking the slight amount of time to ease them into it. You never know what kind of person they are also going in blind (and who's to say they might not be your next best friend?) \:3 if they approach was smooth, kind and easy, then most people (I've come to know anyways!) have proved themselves to be SUPER amazing!
-But that typically isn't a 1(or even 30)day turn-over ^^; it does indeed take effort.

In conclusion, my findings thus far have found that a heavily generous (be it my time, interest, attention, affection, etc) approach have proved most rewarding, I recommend it to any and everyone!


Have to completely agree with logic being a core mechanic in a lot of how I dictate myself also. (because without that.... what is even a solid grounding to base from?) dont get me wrong, emotions and emotional value are certainly a very real things as well! But a logical look is typically indisputable, and emotions can sway that from a factual truth. (..not always in a bad way either, but more meaning in such a way like; 'a pet rock is still a rock' you can name it, place googly-eyes on it and feel more attachment to it over other rocks, which can be a cute experience/fun for what you make of it. But that still doesn't dispute that it -is a rock- y'know? :S )

Hrrm! and no game plan, aye?
-Wanna take this conversation to notes?

Perhaps notes would be good, yes. I suppose I need to talk to someone about this since I've yet to catch up with my therapist again. *sigh* Avoidance behavior sucks.

I'm sexually and romantically attracted to people regardless of gender and/or sexual expression, which I'm honestly glad about as I'm a transwoman and somewhat genderfluid and it's far too confusing to try and figure out what heterosexual means at this point. I'm somewhat polyamorous, but I'm in a relationship with just one person. I've several people I love and others I've got crushes on, but I'm only involved with one.

I've kinda given up on specific labels at this point because I always seem to have to explain them, so I just jump right to the explanation and save trouble. I like everyone, everyone looks good, I'm willing to have sex regardless of parts, and honestly what I look for in someone is if we can be good friends.

MmmMmm~! (a discussion further up with zelox_quo regarding the 'language' for better explains my view on that, to save to typing it out again)

and YAY for gender-fluidity! ^_^; androgyny is pretty too (always liked that, even when I was a kid, the few times I would see people of that nature its always just super attractive and intriguing :3)
-and IKR? 83 as far as sexytimes/gender goes.. its all just input/output plugs, aye? \:S what does difference does that really make if they person is amazing?

Androgyny is always so pretty! I've always had an appreciation for those who blur the lines between the "normal" ways of looking, it explores the parts of the world we don't normally see and shows how much beauty is out there if you're willing to find it. I'm still mostly closeted so I've not had much chance, but try to look androgynous when I can be myself fully.

That discussion on the language is actually really good. Teaching is important, and the only issue is there will always be those who don't want to learn. But they are a very small portion of people.

And that's exactly it on gender/sexytimes. All that matters is the people involved, not how the parts fit together. Especially since there's a huge market for "adapters" out there.

yays! ^_^/ I used to be more twinky beanpole enough to go either way WAAAAYages ago.. then hips. :I hips and butt n bewbage errywhere XS dangit

..not to mention they aren't worth the time taken to pass on to anyways \|'S (so if they dont want, then it wont be crammed down their throat, they may also be hella missing out, but honestly there are a ZILLION others more deserving/willing whom the teaching will reach instead :S)

And I know right! X'3 'wanna live the hermaphroditic Gryphon/Slug-Taur DREAM? *then we have JUST the suit for you!' X>

Hips. Yes. I've already some hips, but if I ever go on hormones I'm gonna have some serious hips. XD

cheehehe! X'3 yeeeahp! and once you have them THEY AREN'T GOING ANYWHERE FAST! X'>

No. No they're not!

Male/trans, and geyyy. My coarse, manly hands have never felt the supple, soft touch of a woman.

I have touched a lot of dicks though.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

DAT EMOTE. X'3
-Soft Supple Peen @least? :D

and awesome! Is that identify as trans, or have a preference for trans? ^_^

identify as, biologically... it's complex. XD

ah kool! :D have you interest, or already started in the shift over? :3

pm'd you since it's not something i'm entirely open about <:3

Bi-sexual and in a open at times relationship. We only really open up when we are going to be apart for long periods so we don't snap.

ah, makes sense! ^_^

So I just saw this, because I don't really read many journals on FA, and thought I would throw my 2 cents into the arena.

I started out as straight, or believing I was, I really didn't consider relationships till my last year of high school, so about 4/5 years ago now.
I was looking for a girl to take to the school ball, first person I asked was going with someone else, so a friend mentioned he knew a girl who they thought I might like or know, so I took her. We ended up dating for about 4 months, then broke up mutually as she moved elsewhere for university.

Second was long distance with a girl I met prior to my first relationship, we got along well, and enjoyed seeing each other, though long distance wasn't working so broke up (it is a common thing for me).

Almost right after that I had my first romantic/sexual encounter with a guy irl, I had RP'd earlier that year online. We considered dating, but didn't in the end due to him going through hard times, and him not wanting to bring me into that.

Again almost right after that I met a guy that ended up not going well at all, I felt betrayed at the end, etc etc, thats all I will say.

About a month after that I started a long distance relationship, it went well most of the time, we skyped once a week, or tried to, and I often spent the weekend waiting for him, I ended up breaking up with him after a year due to communication, and not feeling right anymore. I had wanted to make the relationship semi open due to distance, but he wasn't comfortable with that, which was a minor factor.

About a month after that, in late March last year, I met my most recent ex, I still like him a lot, but distance. He was a really nice guy, intelligent, though forgetful at time. He was the first I met that was interested in an open relationship, then he met his trans gf, and for a while she and I were kinda unsure about each other, but after about a month, or a bit longer we started liking each other, and it was nice. Then in July I took on a local guy as a bf/pet. That worked well, we all got along, and enjoyed talking to each other on FB, skype etc. Recently I went to see my ex, I stayed with my gf of the time, though while I was staying there we realised that the romantic spark wasn't there so broke up. I then stayed with my ex bf for the next few days, he was nice, loving a caring, though sadly I had to leave, and just recently I realised I couldn't do that, I couldn't go up for a few days once or twice a year, and not see him more than that. So I broke up with him, and he was a fantastic guy, and I wish I didn't have to leave.

I am now in only a relationship with my bf/pet who lives not far from me

So I guess my story is closed straight> closed bi curious >closed gay >polyamourous pansexual > open gay relationship wise, and my sexuality has gone from straight to poly pan, and I do like this. I now realise I don't really care what gender a person is, to an extent, I would love them no matter how they are.

In terms of my gender identity? Thats now mainly male, with the occassional gender fluid moments.

Also holy bananas batman, long post is long

oh wow~! quite the epic-journey you've been on~! :D

n yeah~~ never been one for long distance, never tried it, (dont see much merit in it) ~_~; then again, I'm a very physical person, of whom will make friends easily and plentifully.. so the special people that seem to drift in closer would obviously need the proximity box checked by default :3

yea, I have now completely learned that, after spending a week with my ex's, which was an incredible week and I loved spending time with them, and a bit of time after thinking, I realised I could not keep going on without seeing them often.

I can be romantically in love with any gender identity because I love the brain inside the body. (You smart, funny, I like you.)
Sexually I prefer penis parts. I am willing to *be* sexual with anyone I love in that way.
I am monogamous with polyamorous tendencies. I prefer it to be one-on-one. But I am willing to share. But I must be Alpha Female.
I identify as female. There has never been a question about that, though some people see me as vaguely masculine. I am NOT the femme frilly frou frou type female. I have some difficulty in understanding anyone who identifies as *purely* male or *purely* female because of my abhorrence of archaic gender roles.

MmmMmmmm~!

I am straight, and as far as my observation goes, that doesnt seem to be THAT prominent among furries. I do see more gay people (male) around here, but that might just be my observation. It does seem to me that the demand for such pics seems to be higher than any other one (i see a lot of money being made with it here, which surely is fine by me!). Somewhere i read that due to not being tolerated elsewhere the furry community was a good meeting point for many minorities (afaik gay being the prominent one out of that), leading to it containing more people not being straight, but thats just what i read ^^;
I tolerate every orientation and i can enjoy most pics here for many different things, not only for what sexual orientation is shown.

Mmm Mmm! kinda a 'would mebbe for extremely sexy-furries'? X>

would maybe what? i'm sorry, i didnt get what you meant there x3

'would mebbe <insert what wouldn't typically do> for hawt furries' X3

oh ha! X3 no I don't think you could see it that way. I just love looking at hot well build furries, and when they have fun, I have fun looking at it :D even if they might do sexual non-straight stuff I wouldn't do, I somehow see past that :D

I have that evil gay friend that tries to tell me I have to hate any kinda pic with non-straight action, otherwise that doesn't make me straight anymore, but I see that differently. Hot furries are hot no matter what and whom they might be doing xD surely I prefer the straight pics, but still :D

Have another friends whom also shares this kinda 'flex' for some fictitious stuff :3

You in your position can enjoy all worlds then naturally? :3 or are there things you really dont like looking at?

Hrrnm~ don't really seek out much fettish stuff online specifically actually~ (..I wager my RL is more than exciting enough to satisfy more often than not ^^;)
So nothing super out-there that I can think of off the top of my head~ :S

Can find a chunk of anthropomorphism hawt, and 'animeXAnthro' is kinda cute, but not specifally over -any- nice intimacy/a well expressed erotica images~~ (I'm easily pleased i think)
Comics and some animations are nice |3

Wow, I jokingly thought 'she wouldn't even need any porn-esque images, every fantasy she could experience right at her home!' And it was the truth x3 that made me smile. You just make me smile quite a bit! Thanks for that ^_^

Oh how much I love anthro, too! Oh wait, that means ... "Hey I'm a white anthro dragon!" *rubs on carni* "love me! It says it right there in the comment!" xD~

There are some stunning comics and animations here! ... Guess I have to put that on my life goal list, an adult scene drawn by you, and animated from one of the good guys here on FA . omgggg contain your orgasms ||||33~~

Hurhur XS keep on breaming buddeh! (haven't ever sold adult to date, doubt thats gonna change anytime soon!)

But I digress! (sometimes no-ones home n faptime is a thing) :S think this is trie of everyone though!

[..and will respond to note when not on my phone next]

i guess i will have to earn it then! ... *bows* to your service, my fair lady ;) xD

hope the real sex to fap time rate is actually a good one still :D

most of the time, yup |3 s'aaaallllll goooooud

Hahaahaa, Good luck Bond.
Not saying it's impossible but I've tried asking for 3 years now.
Started asking when I first seen some adult art of her's leaked.

But Sometimes adult art can't be sold or auctioned off as it's something personal too some artists. Welp that's the way with me I assume it's the same with her. Good luck.

Yeah i know, i ask for a long time too :D but i respect that she doesnt want to. I make it more like a running gag now :D

But hope dies last. all it takes is her boys being out of the house for a week for whatever reason and she might be in a position to suddenly like drawing something :P haha

To long didn't read; Bi-sexual, possible interested in poly or some open relationship.
But currently single. *Forever alone LOL.*


When I was (too) young some guys in the furry fandom introduced me to guy on guy stuff.
I highly doubt I would've fallen down that path unless shown. But that happened for better or worse.

Went into lots of male relationships. But Had to hide it for many, many years (Father is a homophobic, racist bible basher.)
Sadly I tried to force myself to be "normal" for him for awhile but eventually gave up. One day got enough guts to admit it to my mother surprisingly enough she was okay with it, Father just gave me a black eye and said never to talk about it again.

I always had a crush on one girl but knew she wasn't interested and it wouldn't ever happen due to already being taken but still I day dreamed. Hahaaha.. ^__^'' Was kinda a little curious about girls but I was too shy to ever attract any.

Fast forward to a few months ago out of no where I love the idea of woman ALOT all the sudden.
Split ways with my ex partner and now looking forward to experimenting. I think I'm Bi but prefer woman...? Hard to tell after only one experience with one. I like the sound of poly Relationships as I'm loyal and understand I could never fully satisfy another. But that's down the track.

So sorry to hear that breaking the news to your father resulted in such a bad reaction \:[ (that's really crap.. do you still live at home with your parents also at this stage?)

And -too- young? (as in you regret the age at which you were exposed or dabbled in?)

Also yay! (was the girl you were crushing on the first experience lass also?) :D or was that just a random happen-stance-one-off?

N yeah! ^_^/ I can vouch for the Poly-openess :3 is a good system (for me anyways, but if peeps can understand/handle it, its rather a god model in general!) dispense with 'ownership' and suddenly the world can get a whole lot easier \|3
Like the idea that anyone person can enjoy different types & levels of friends, who's to say a more intimate variation cannot be implemented also? (then the pressure on any one person to be anothers 'everything' is lifted somewhat also :3 )

But good luck and sounds like an adventure ahead~! :D all open-roads from here on out!

*Yeah My dad's a prick it wasn't unexpected of his disapproval I moved out because he said he wouldn't tolerate any kind of "those" people in his house. But my mother was nice & kind though so good came out of it. (She even drew me up some supportive artwork.)


*I regret the fact I was so darn young (around 15/16.) and the guys I did stuff with was 20-23 (kinda creepy yah know?) But in the end it happened can't change the past and it opened my mind to being with males..

*"was the girl you were crushing on the first experience lass also?"
I wish Hahahaa, But Noope. You should know who I had and have a crush on (Feel free to ask me in a note if you're confused. But don't be surprised.) ^__^''; But No the woman is in a relationship, not interested and happy where she is. In the end I respect that and am happy to be only good friends with them.

I understand what you mean, though poly only interests me if I were to get a male or female partner to make them fully satisfied in every way. Also thanks for being a good friend whom listens and cheers others up. Have a wonderful day. (─‿‿─)/

Think I can guess~ ;3 (..but mighta had multi-crushes! never know! 8D )

and bleeerh ~__~; still just so disappointing more than anything to hear of such outright refusal for tolerance.. :/ (I honestly find it so strange to me how anyone person can get so aggravated over something they need not be entirely any apart of... 6_9; so odd! )

-N mebbe? (I mean, if you regret it, you regret it) but was that an aspect of just the age-difference? or other factors also? (do not have to disclose if you do not wish to and/or can take that to notes/FB chat if you want)

-And yay! :D Best way to be, and COMPLETELY what I strive to uphold in a relationship also! ^_^/ but yeah, in what I was high-lighting before, 'scaling back any one-persons expectation for everything from one person, then when its volunteered its nothing but bonus!' ^u^

*No, I only had/have the one crush on this Caring, Creative, Colorful, Breathtakingly Beautiful and Brilliant girl. ^u^;'
Happy to be friends with them.

AAANYWAYS~!

*Some people are just like that, Can't do nothing but treat hate with love and tolerance.

*Not just the age difference (as I'm perfectly okay with age differences now days) it was just I feel like I wasn't ready for that kind of thing at the time. *plus the guys were major jerks.* :S

Thanks for the chat, if you ever wanna ask anything, vent or chit chat.. No judgements just shout out you know where to find me. :)

All this flattery~! X> yer gonna make my head swell up too big to fit into the kitchen~! XD

-Still odd though! @_@; homosexuality/etc not your thing, -then you don't need to be!- :U no reason to make any/everyone else around's day a misery over it :/
-bleh ~_~ that sux and sorry to hear, no one should ever feel pressured into doing anything they are even half-way unsure of~
-And will/would do~! ^_^