wooooow, that's really terrible. I'm sorry to hear that man

So sad this is happening to you (or anyone else), hope your getting it all back soon!

Aaw geezal sorry ta hear that h0rs3... an yeah I've heard at least a couple times of fursuits gettin' lost in baggage... but that eventually they've been recovered... I'll keep m'fingers crossed an hope fer the best fer... an glad that at least ya had fun at the furcon {:)

Haha, if it's detroyed, I prefer not to see it again.
Anyway, After 21 days, the content of the baggage can be refunded up to 1300 €... that's not even half of the whole value.

Unfortunately, the max. amount ( 1300€ ) is defined by an international law, not the airlines. :/

Mince, c'est horrible ça...

Si tu as payé par carte bleue, vérifie l'assurance de ta carte, parfois elle rajoute des sécurités supplémentaires qui pourraient couvrir en partie la perte de tes baggages.

J'espère que tu vas retrouver tes suits, surtout qu'ils sont magnifiques.

Non, j'ai vérifié, je n'ai rien avec ma CB. (Carte VISA tout ce qui est de plus basique) =/

That doesn't seem right especially if you have insurance and it was their fault the stuff didn't arrive.

I agree I think it's dumb that even though it's their fault your stuck without your belongings or get them back them back eventually but not in the same condition that they entered the airline

I've never flown so I can't say that personally have had that problem but I have heard some stories from others most did eventually get their stuff back once they were found

Actually, yes, I'm sure you'll be fine.

Airlines usually take the loss of baggage VERY seriously. At one point my dad lost a baggage that had literally ALL of his clothes plus his laptop charger plus paperwork he CANNOT lose. He reported it to the airlines who looked into it for him. Turns out the luggage had been checked into Amsterdam airport, his connecting airport, and had not been checked onto the next flight. Less than 3 days later, the luggage showed up on his doorstep. Since you have already waited a few days, I'd give them a little while to figure out where your luggage went.

At least these are Scandinavian Airlines. I dunno about Air France, but usually, an airline that consistently loses luggage, with no chance of retrieval? They don't stay in business for long.

Personally, I'd report the missing luggage, with a DETAILED description of its appearance, as well as contents(First for identification, second for confirmation that its ACTUALLY yours...How can you know whats in it if its not yours, right?), and the Airport should do all it can to get the luggage back to you.

After all, lost luggage is bad for airline business, so trust me, they'll get your shit back.

Seriously, I don't know how it is possible to lose a baggage with such a short route.
My route was TXL (Berlin Tegel) -> AMS (Amsterdam Schipol) -> MRS (Marseille Provence), and I have no idea where the baggage was lost. Sunday evening, the guy told me that it missed the connection in AMS, but the day after, I hear that it stayed in TXL and it was on its way to CDG (Paris). Now, They still don't know if the bag is actually in Paris or not...

I don't know, I'll just wait until the end of this week and see what happens, I can't do anything else.

They see a lot of luggage everyday so I'm sure even on a short flight something may go amis

but I agree that it should be taken seriously lost luggage is bad for business for them I do hope they track it down

Delta Airlines, in the US. I dunno if it's just my bizarre luck, or if it's a running theme, but any time and EVERY time I've flown Delta, they lost my luggage. Not one time on Delta did our luggage ever come with us. Too bad that, at the time, they were cheapest and we aren't rich. .. Now we spring for another airline anyway, even if we can't afford it.

Oh wow that fucking sucks hun, this is why we should just get are bags out of the damn plane when we land not sit and wait for this shit on some converbelt

That wouldn't really make much of a difference now would it?
Whether you get your luggage outside, in the potential freezing cold/scorching heat, after sitting on an airplane for anywhere between 30 minutes to over 15+ hours? The last thing 'I' would want to do, is stand outside and wait for EACH INDIVIDUAL luggage for over 200+ people(Who can carry up to two each btw) to get theirs.

And besides, even if you stand outside in the elements waiting for your luggage, it doesn't really make much of a difference if the luggage is not on the flight to begin with. So instead of at least standing inside in an Air conditioned room while having lost my luggage, I'd be standing outside in whatever horrible weather is prevalent at the time, while having lost my luggage.

Honestly? I'll take the conveyor belt system any day.

Oh you know what i mean keeping a constant eye on it as ot go's to the plane and off again so it doesn't get lost, sure im not saying freeze yourself to death to pick something up or give yourself sun stroke but there has to be something better than lots of peoples luggage getting lost due to wrong labeling or system errors

Hi. I don't work for Air France, but I am a Pilot for United an Delta. This is what usually happens to baggage.

Usually when baggage gets lost its in one of two places. Where you left (checked the baggage) or where you arrived (first place the baggage was sent to.)

Sometimes baggage is sent on later flights because of load restrictions on an aircraft or if the bag didn't make it to the plane prior to departure.

Now, the baggage will remain at an airport (departure or arrival) in their lost baggage area. Basically a room, for a certain amount of time.

After that, most airlines have a main, lost baggage wearhouse, that's full of lost baggage. Like, football fields of lost luggage.

It will remain in the warehouse for a while, but will then be auctioned off (like a year later) if no one claims it.

(I hope this helps, an I hope you find your luggage. If your address an number was on the bag an they find it, they should ship it to that address. It may just take a while for standard shipping.)

Thanks for these information, at least it helps me to understand how the airlines are managing lost baggages.

If your luggage ends up in one of these football fields of lost luggage, how is it claimed? I mean, what do you have to do to... have it found and brought to you to claim it, before it's auctioned off?

These massive warehouses aren't something commonly known, so it isn't like you can show up and go 'Hi, I think you have my bags, can I browse your thousands upon thousands of lost bags?'

If the airline lost it, then they don't know where it is, let alone you, how do you claim it?

The wearhouses are more like baggage graveyards in a way. If a bag has no information tied to it, (address or phone number on a tag outside or inside the luggage) it is then sent to these wearhouses after a certain amount of time sitting at an airport.

These wearhouses aren't general knowledge and are locations that the airline will give you. I know United's is in Houston, TX.

Unfortunately, if a bag is sent to one of these wearhouses, it's the airlines way of saying, "We don't know who this belongs to, so we've given up trying to locate the owner." It also stinks, because if the airline tells you to go look for your luggage at one of these wearhouses, that's at your own expense, as far as traveling to the wearhouse, even if it is in a different state/country.

Now, if the airline says hey, we couldn't locate your bag, and it probably has ended up at our wearhouse, there is still hope. As far as tracking your bag, if you go to the wearhouse you'll be able to describe your bag to whoever is on duty and give them a range of dates for when you lost your bag, basically from the day of your flight to the present, they will be able to go through and look at every bag that was brought in during that timeframe.

If your bag however is not in the wearhouse after the airline tells you to go there an you check. Then unfortunately your bag was probably picked up by another passenger and never returned.

(Hope this answers your question)

Well, I'm glad I know about these luggage warehouses then. For most folks it's an 'unknown unknown' .. You don't know that you don't know something. So most folks would not think to ask 'hey, where's your massive luggage warehouse?' since they don't know they exist.

As far as my questions though, it does Kinda answer them, even if it's a disheartening answer.

The 'at your expence' part definitely sucks, especially if it's somewhere very far, which will likely mean flying again, which will risk more lost luggage and high expense just to get your stuff back that they lost in the first place. No doubt they hope to keep it to auction it off for themselves. Profit from almost-theft.

Travel insurance is a good security to have. It's fairly cheap, improves the gap between what an airline will pay for lost luggage and what a fursuit is worth. A number of other benefits... And just Murphy's law, if you have it, you won't need it.

2 Years ago, I was in Florida, and I had a flight from MCO to JFK, then from JFK to CDG (Paris). My flight from MCO was 6 hours late, so I missed my flight to Paris (It wasn't the same company, unfortunately)
I had an insurance, but they fuck'd me, because the "missed flight" insurance was not suitable for a return flight... Sheeiiit.
Now I do not trust the flight insurances anymore.

Oh man, that is some bullshit right there. :(

As unfair as that is when taking our insurances you should always read the terms and conditions to make sure that you are actually getting what you think you are. Insurance companies will do anything to fuck you over.

Trop dur de faire le tout en Anglais.

Y'a 6 ans, quand j'suis parti au Maroc avec Air France, ils ont perdu mon baggage qui contenait entre autre mon PC portable à 1500€ qu'ils m'ont obligé à mettre en soute. 1 semaine avant de savoir où ils étaient rendu (Berlin... Sur un vol Paris Maroc...) Et j'ai du attendre mon retour en France 2 semaines plus tard pour qu'il arrive... au Maroc.

Harcèle les, dit leur bien que tu as dans la valise des objets dont la valeur s'élève à plus de 3000€ et que tu es en ton droit de réclamer des dédommagements si ils ne remettent pas la main sur tes bagages.

Ah, mais au moins ils savaient où le bagage se trouvait, ce qui n'a pas l'air d'être le cas ici présent, c'est bien ça qui m'inquiète le plus. S'ils me disent qu'ils l'ont trouvé, et qu'il faudra quelques jours pour le recevoir, ok, j'attendrai, mais là ils sont pas en mesure de me confirmer s'ils l'ont vraiment retrouvé et où il est. Bref, on verra.

Pour ça, met leur un coup de pression, tu verras miraculeusement ils vont le retrouver quelque part...

Haha, Ruinair a essayé de me faire envoyer mon laptop en soute quand ils ont décrété que les compartiments à bagages cabine étaient pleins sur un vol où j'embarquais parmi les derniers passagers. Comme cela se passait sur le tarmac au pied de l'avion et que Ruinair est toujours à la bourre, j'ai calmement dit au type que je voulais bien à condition qu'il me signe un papier à son nom dans lequel il engageait sa responsabilité en cas de dommages à mon ordi portable. Et là, après m'avoir menacé, il s'est finalement mis à râler et puis il a ôté le scellé qu'il avait mis sur le bagage pour que je puisse récupérer mon laptop et le prendre en cabine.

Remind them everyday that you exist.

Like my mom always said about companies. "If you bitch at them enough, they get shit done or give you something you'll agree to."

La tuile. Courage ><

hope you get them back!

Man... I hope you get your stuff back.

Hey no idea if this will ease your loss or not but just in case I literally threw out 2900$ a week ago :'D Money well burned...Q_Q So yeah maybe it helps that there are others too losing money xD

Keep on them, hun! They eventually bring the stuff back, as you'd be shocked how far this crap travels :P They automatically insure this as well, so they'll owe you big bucks if it is well and truly lost - which it isn't. I guarantee it is sitting in some room in the airport. Ask for a supervisor, give the flight details, and don't let up no matter what BS they give you.

Good luck!

I hope you get your stuff back, seldom has a complaint been more justified than this. That sucks.

Only about 2% of luggage is ever irrecoverably lost.

Extra checked bags are a huge headache to any airline. Only so many bags and of so much weight can be loaded onto the aircraft depending on it's volume, passenger load, and fuel load. This is one of the reasons that airlines charge for checked bags now and not just for the extra revenue instead of raising ticket prices. By making an incentive for their passengers to carry on instead of checking bags it frees up a ton of capacity for those that want to check bags.

Extra bags when there is no longer enough capacity depending on aircraft load will be loaded onto another aircraft which will ultimately make it's way to the ticket holder's final destination. But sometimes these have to be offloaded at some point along the way due to weight or capacity and held. So as you can see tracking all this is quite the burden. So unless someone walked off with your bags at the carousel it's very highly likely to show up.

Assuming 100-200 passengers per flight and everyone has one piece of luggage that's 2-4 pieces irrecoverably lost on every flight.

I meant 2% of 'lost luggage'

There's also the possibility of it being put on the wrong bird and sent off to Timbuktu without anyone being the wiser. (Seriously, why is it always Timbuktu? Who started that cliche?)

If they only search the places it should be, that's a lot more potential for loss, and so far the only insider that's posted so far suggests the look in the places it should be. Where you left, and where you arrived. Even assuming your bags got put on another flight, that had to make a connection, and they include that connection in their search, that still doesn't account for all the potentially dozens of other airports it might have ended up if some handler simply tossed it on the wrong jet. It'd end up sitting in 'lost baggage' at that unknown airport, with no know knowing it's there to look for it or claim it, until it end sup in one of those huge warehouses of lost luggage mentioned by the insider above, and then auctioned off.

....Travel sucks. :-\ I drive.

Informative. I've only flown about four times in my life, and that part was a bit of a mystery to me.

I haven't had the experience but, trust me, England has some of the WORST airports you can have. Baggage is lobbed about without a care, regardless of content, cos the workers don't give a shit. Not to mention a few years back one of our airlines lost over 1000 bags in one day.

Simply put, never trust an airline. It's why I'm only ever gonna have carry-ons. My bag, my problem, no lazy arse bag handler. I can't recall if we also lost several discs containing detailed information about over 600,000 people in an airport, but I think that was a government worker leaving them in a park or a subway, I don't think it was plane related.

So, yeah, never trust English airliners. They're seriously bad at their jobs. XD

What do you do if you have to bring more with you than your carry on? Like if you're going transoceanic for a month or whatever? Or just have really big stuff you need or wanna bring with you, like a fursuit?

I'm hoping that never occurs. XD A carry-on requires less trust in the airliner, less messing around with items and generally I can live out of a shoebox. :P But mostly the trust thing, this country is a stickler for punishing those who trust.

If I was heading somewhere like my partner's house or somewhere within that area, I'd just post my items ahead of time (as that's more, though still not entirely, reliable than airliners). If it was somewhere like Austin, Texas... Well, my time there would be like a survival course. XD

0mfg thats awful, I hope they show up unharmed or something comes up.

It would be nice to know if they actually found it or not, at least. Right now, I have no idea.

Hang in there. Thats a BEAUTIFUL horse suit, I would be gutted if anything like that happened to any of my suits. Got my finger crossed for you hoping good luck comes along. Keep calling, be persistent as hell.
My horse suit will be done this fall

Holy shit I hope you didin't lose them! That's horrible.

Something similar happened to a coworker. His luggage didn't leave the airport in America (Flying back to Europe) and he waited around 6-8 days before it was delivered back to him.

It's understandable for a flight from/to another continent, but in my case, the flights were only in Europe, it shouldn't take so much time.

Dang. Well hope you get your stuff back.

D: o noes

wait. what? you were at the ef? damit why didn´t i know that???

Holy shit that's terrible. I hope they show up :\

ça c'est la merde. Je touche du bois pour toi poney, et j’espère que tu retrouvera tes valises asap :/ ça me motive encore plus à aller à l'ef en voiture dans le future.

Ah oui, la voiture, c'est long, c'est chiant et fatiguant, mais au moins ça évite ce genre de conneries ! (A moins de se faire voler la voiture, Haha)

ça serait la merde en effet de se faire piquer la caisse xD

That's really shitty...

I've had two experiences like this, one from Us-Us, my bag didn't arrive, but they mailed it me the next day :/

The other was from Germany-Us, one 1 of my 2 bags arrived, the other took only 24 hours to arrive, and I picked it up shortly after.....

But already over a week with no sign, and with that much in your bag.... I really hope you do get your bag back soon, and everything's intact....

Aw man. I hope you get them back :(

That sucks! I hope you get your suits back.

Suiter's worst nightmare. I'm really hoping you get you luggage back asap and unharmed. This is just absolutely unacceptable, and yet all you can do really, is wait. I have no words.

If you are traveling with really expensive luggage, and will not be carrying it with you, A trick that's used by musicians, sound engineers and many film industry people is to pack a gun, usually bb or flare gun, into the bag with it, You will probably want to find something else that's treated similarly when flying internationally, You have to bring it in and declare it, And it will be handled differently from other checked bags. The staff at the airport is not allowed to open it while it's in transit, And the airline wouldn't be caught dead just losing a bag with a gun in it. So that's what a lot of guys traveling with expensive gear do to ensure it will be at their arrival destination. I've never done it myself, But I don't travel ith checked bags unless I have to, And then it's only clothes, But it could be a good thing to look into for future travel.

Try that in AMerica, you could end up arrested for bein' a TUR'RIST!! ... Or just have your bag opened, the controlled item taken out, 'confiscated' (read: legally stolen), then your bag treated like any other anyway. Assuming you're not detained or whatever.

Iunno, spoofing controlled cargo seems to be more trouble than it's worth, at least as far as the US is concerned. Maybe a non-weapon variant?

If it's not declared or secured yes. But when you travel with something like a flare gun, You do have to declare it with the TSA and they are not allowed to open it after it's been handled and handed over. I've worked with a lot of touring bands and sound engineers in my field who have used this method of transporting expensive gear for years.

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/transpor.....and-ammunition

Ouch that is quite the investment that you just lost thanks to them. -.-

This sucks.

if they lost it you are entitled to compensation for your goods

listen When it comes to luggage you never know with Airlines
I was going to Spain from Germany and I heard a story that on the same route one of the passangers had their luggage checked in ... Brazil.

Maybe they thought the suits were dead animals.
Anyhow I hope they are delivered safe soon.

It is very, very rare that baggage is ever actually 'lost'. I can almost guarantee that it will show back up in a 10-14 days maximum.

I hope so.

Air France is shit! They always lose people's bags.

Actually, KLM could be responsible too. Only the last flight was Air France, the first one was with KLM. Anyway, it doesn't really matter since both airlines are from the same group.

Life advice from a man with no life. Never travel because someone somewhere won't care that they fucked you over.

Is there something like a GPS tracker for suitcases?

Yes.

good to know

Yes, and I will probably add one if I see my suitcase again.

Im not sure whats worse. Knowing your bags didnt make it, or just getting part of the bag instead of the full thing like what happened to Doryuu. I hope you get your suits back.

Ugh that's so awful wtf

*hug* Best of luck.

Shit dude, hope you get it all sorted out.

Putain, alors ça me dégoute tellement pour toi =(

Stormy avait eu le même genre de problème mais il a pu récupérer ses fursuits peu de temps avant l'EF. Je te conseil donc de lui en parler au cas ou.
J’espère sincèrement que tu vas récupérer tes fursuits sans qu'elles aient eu de dommage ou autre.

That's absolutely terrible. I hope they manage to find it and get it back to you...

Well that sucks chode, I hope they turn up for you

Air France lost one of my travel group's bags on the way to EF actually. He got it back a week later but y'know, that's not ideal considering all his shit was in that case. Best of luck to ya.

I travel with A.F or KLM most of the time, and no problems with them until now. I had no baggage issues even when I travelled to America or Asia, but Berlin is probably too much for them, lol.

Sucks very much, did you have contact information tags on your baggage?

There was a little tag with my Full name and phone number on it.

Although the occurrence sucks, and it's a big hassle to deal with, there are a number of well-established Options you might pursue.

1. Most personal insurance policies offer some kind of coverage for your belongings in transit. A home-owners', or renters' policy should cover it. You may have to provide proof of ownership since these are high-dollar items, and some providers require "riders" on big-ticket items, so there could be a sticking point if your insurance company wants a rider and you have not filed one PRIOR to loss. But there are many ways to negotiate around things like this. Your adjuster will make that determination.

2. Most credit card companies offer some kind of travel insurance for lost luggage and such, if you book the ticket on that card. Check the benefits for your card.

3. Airlines are fairly good about finding lost luggage, even if it takes a while. Heaven knows I have travelled enough and lost more than a few bags, but they have always showed up eventually, and they are USUALLY complete with contents. Always write your contact info inside the luggage container itself, as well as on the various items inside it. The primary reason luggage gets lost is that there is no contact info in it. Do not rely on tags or things attached to the bag, they get ripped off.... also writing outside gets scratched off or damaged, including the airline destination tags! That is possibly why your bag got lost, the sticky tag got ripped off. Someone might have taped it back on, or possibly it got stuck to another bag. Bag sorting is almost completely automated, it is also possible that your bag was close to another one and when it went thru the sorting machine, and was routed incorrectly. I've also seen one where the sticky tag ripped off one bag and stuck to another, causing that bag to get mis-routed, and the original bag went to the lost luggage office. There is actually a lost luggage office with people who do nothing but search for contact info inside luggage.

4. Most airlines have a lost-luggage compensation policy. It will not cover the full cost of everything, especially things like fursuits. But before you can make a claim for this, you have to let them do their investigation. It could be up to 30 days before they declare the luggage completely lost.

5. As frustrating as it is, be sure you are calm and polite with the airline people. Lost luggage people get screamed at all day long, it's an incredibly frustrating job. Most of them have gotten so numb to it that they just don't care about anything. When you walk up to the counter and calmly express your desire to find your luggage, and let them do their jobs, well, they are usually surprised and happy to work with you.

Hope that helps.

oh no D:
I really hope it solves itself >-<

I'm sorry to hear about that, I hope you get your luggage back soon

This is the main reason I have never been to a convention that I could not travel to by car. I am so paranoid of the airline losing or damaging my fursuit. I hope it all works out for you and you get them back before too long!

Sadly even if *found* you only get barely half the price of the lost items back. One way to show your displeasure is to show up at the airport to the airline that lost the stuff and start talking loudly to the folks booking a flight about lost luggage and whatnot. Once customers hear YOU lost stuff, they will either pay you to go away, or lose customers when they hear and see someone lost some expensive items with minimal help or compensation.

Save that though if nothing happens and they get shirty on paying your claim. For now alas its have a coke, smile, and accept that YOU are here and had a great time.

Gaia bless
Pakesh_De
Snoofy old burr

Believe it or not it's fairly easy to lose track of luggage as it's sorted @.@ I mean sure there's all the electronic scanners that reads tags and diverts it to the proper handler port, but there are times where luggage gets "accidentaled" onto the wrong belt or if the ground crew is rushing to try and get a flight out on time, baggage can get left on the cart or thrown onto the wrong flight's cart. There's even times at baggage claim where someone accidentally picks up the wrong bag thinking it's their's, or there's the random asshat who tries to nick bags thinking there's good monitary value in the contents (happens like once in a blue moon, hopefully not the case this time!).

Also it's like what Iber says, as long as you have your contact info on your bag it should be all good.

Ah fuck, that sucks man. My heart goes out to you

Seems to me like *sniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiff* BULLSHIT.

That is the worst! I hope things get cleared up and your suits get back on time. In the meantime I hope you raise hell for that airline!

I actually lost my alptop recently so I can relate to this. It sucks man. I hope they find your baggage. If it wasn't stolen I'm sure something will happen. The company doesn't want a bad reputation afterall, and your personal information was on the bag anwyays. I'm sure it'll show up at some point...unlike my poor laptop ;w;

Holy shit... I wish you luck in getting the suits back

My condolences, that sounds quite stressful

that is some royal bullshit. I hope they come back, or they at least reimburse you for lost luggage.

One my friend had the same problem, from Italy to Berlin, he received the fursuit the last day of Eurofurence.

I hope that you will receive it soon, or at least know something about.

I'm sorry to hear that. Hope the airline could return them to you as soon as possible before anything happens on your luggage. :c
It's happened to me in couple months ago too which I had a content of $2000+. What i did was file a report with the airline agent and took a copy of the report. I got my luggage back after 3 days, contents are all fine but my clean luggage turned into a dusty and dirt covered luggage. Remember to keep your luggage ticket!

Damn, that sucks hope you get your stuff soon

Yeah, never check baggage without some sort of outside insurance (DO NOT get the airline insurance option! They will screw you around so much with so many wrong numbers and holds and fine print that your head will spin). The second you show them it is "FULLY" insured, they pretty much roll out the red carpet handling it.

Or better yet like a fursuiter friend of mine that travels cross country with said fursuit, will ship it to the destination ahead of time insured for 3x what it is worth as a "Wearable Art Piece", says if he ever had one stolen or lost that he'd want enough money back to buy 3 more.

People and employees of airlines steal luggage all the time all over the world every day... This is why they have insurance, and luggage GPS trackers, or electronics anti-theft devices and such for travelers.

From what I have heard, if they don't "find" it within a month, it is gone for good, unless it turns up in some police sting a year down the road, and if there is no serial number or contact information in or on the item itself they would not know who to call, since the first thing the thieves do is get rid of all the tags.

I had a $1400 MSi gaming laptop STOLEN by someone at Delta airlines a few years ago (luckily I had it encrypted but all they'd have to do is get a new harddrive and reinstall the OS so at least no personal information or porn of importance was stolen lol), and when I was a Kid going to Disney World someone stole my checked bag of plushies on United Airlines (which is devastating to a child).

I have family members and friends all with stories of lost bags or even specific things taken out of luggage (always something expensive). Especially now that most airlines and countries don't allow the use of private locks on bags. I say "stolen" because everything else like clothes bags and hygiene cases came back fine... They were all dropped off at the same time so there should be no reason for all but one to make it.

Pretty much everyone I know does their trips by car with expensive fursuits, even cross country Furcon trips, and only takes a plane when they know all their stuff fits in a carry-on or will be properly insured.

If a whole bunch of people's bags are missing from the same flight then it likely means the loader didn't load the plane and that it will show up on the next one, but if just those one or two things went missing it was likely stolen... This happens a lot when it comes to international travelers because you aren't local enough to know the laws or to harass them in person.

I'd say to file a claim if you can through whatever means are available to you. Hope things turn out okay, otherwise a life lesson was learned and will likely never happen to you again at the very least.

This sounds like a case of Someone thinking, "Oh hey, this is cool, oops! Guess it is lost now!"

Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. *hugs*

That happened to me here in the USA. My fursuit had to travel several times till it got put on a flight headed my way.

Ooooh yeah..

I was going from Athens to CDG Paris and one of my suitcases had a bunch of small statues I bought in Athens along with a few essentially irreplaceable items and a bunch of my clothing.. and it never arrived. EasyJet pulled this 'you have to pay before you can check that in' and we were close to gate closure time. I paid and got back in time - but they screwed up the routing to the plane.

It never showed up and I never got a cent in compensation.

This is why I *never* check in luggage anymore. But I don't fursuit - so yeah, entirely different situation.

One suggestion? If you're going from Berlin to Paris? Take the train! It's longer - but no luggage hassles (well, not yet - I hear they're talking about making it more difficult).

Bonne chance...

Just to give you some hope, in 500 commercial flights, I've never actually lost any luggage. It's gone missing for various periods of time, but always turned up eventually. The record being my wedding luggage which went on it's own honeymoon for over a MONTH before being found and returned. My fursuit has also gone on a few holidays on its own. Once for just over a week before it was finally returned.
Hope you have the same luck! *hugz hugz*

oh shit dude im sorry to hear that.

It happens to the lot of us. I'm sorry about your bad luck. We've had this sort of problem before.

No where near as bad as here in the USA. Ever since the terrorism panic caused by 9/11, our law enforcement with air-travel is insane.
Both airport workers and law enforcement reserve the right to seize any suitcases and bags and even destroy them regardless of if they check out ok.
It's stupid, but its done for safety reasons if they could check out okay but could still be a threat. No compensation to owners. It's fucking bullshit.

Check with each airline's lost and found. Each airline has a separate one, and your bags may have ended up on a different carousel.

That royally sucks. I certainly hope for your sake that your luggage shows up and the fursuits are undamaged. €1300 is nowhere near enough to replace them, not only monetarily but also because they are both absolutely one of a kind.

Ugh x.x I hope they find everything intact!

Karpour et Henrieke avaient eu le même problème durant leur voyage à FC avec Air France, bagages perdus en arrivant sur le territoire américain, du coup pas de vêtements ni de fursuits pendant toute la convention. Leurs bagages avaient été retrouvés 1 semaine après... Karpour avait souligné que le service commercial d'Air France avait été lamentable et pas vraiment professionnel : / Même chose pour un collègue en revenant de Tunisie avec Air France, sauf que sa valise n'a jamais été retrouvée...

Je suis surpris qu'à l'heure de la totale surveillance on puisse perdre une valise de 20kg dans un aéroport. Comme le suggérais Aoi, je vais surement investir dans un tracker, on n'est jamais à l'abri d'une mauvaise surprise. Dans tous les cas, j'espère sincèrement que tu retrouveras tes fursuits.

Well dude, I know it's hard to do because you're a horse, so hooves and stuff, but you gotta cross your fingers and hope.
Best 'a luck man! :T

I once arrived home (Rome) from Arizona while my baggage was still in England, for some reason. I knew it must have been in London airport, since it was the only other route my luggage could take. Thus I told them that my luggage was in London, and they sent it to me that evening. I had to come back at the airport and retrieve it with the passengers of that other flight.
I remember they made me fill a report with the contents of the luggage, so that I could try and get a refund if they couldn't find me my property.
Other times it doesn't go so well. Sometimes they find the luggage after a month, sometimes they find out it was just stolen and you are never going to have it back. Depends on the case :/

i had that happen to me once.
it took the airline (insert name here) about 4 weeks
so i think it will come back it´ll just take some time
good luck

The same thing happened to me. I had my carry on, i brought 3 bags to move in with my ex but only received 2. The other bag they didnt get and the bag was flown back. So I had to wait the next morning for them to air it back and they drove to the house and delivered it. I had over $2000 in rubber latex gear.

This was from LA Calif to Minnesota Twin Cities AP.

Keep calling and bugging the shit out of them until they get your bag. Sadly though they have a shitty claims and only cover like $2000.

Most people who get their shit lost by the company sue the airport because they dont fully pay for the loss.

If it has a tag then it there somewhere. Maybe call both airports. AirFrance and
the other. Yeah I would do the exact same you are doing hehe.

Call everyday until they resolve and I would make sure they actually do shit about it. And yes i would also sue them if they dont pay for everything thats in there.

I wish you luck and hope you get your bag back so you can sleep better, zura.

Good luck, meow!

I really hope you get your suits! I can't imagine how pissed off I would be in that situation.

Air France?



Man, France needs to man the fuck up a bit and start taking care of business! It's like they stopped giving a shit over there!

I've had the experience of losing a bag forever back in 2009, though I had hardly a fraction of the value you had in there :f

I'm so sorry to hear that... Here's hoping it's found and sent back to you.

Maybe they just wanted to have those lovely fursuits for themselves.

I've travelled a lot in the past, we had our baggage go missing before too. One point we had to wait a week for it, daily calls to them and so forth and it was a huge pain in the ass. Because apparently they had put it on some flight from Stockholm to Madrid and then they had to try and get it back but it got shipped to Egypt... -.-

Airlines are such idiots sometimes.

got my luggage lost once.
never traveled by air with something more than a hand luggage since then, i rather keep my shit with me than to leave it to crap airline luggage management.
so far never needed to travel with something huge to have it sent around by the airline, and if i ever have to stay few days in a foreign country i just buy cheap clothes i can dispose of or donate to charity before going back home.
had a lot of "lost" luggages or plain out opened by airport employees and got shit stolen kind of situations in my family that i don't want to deal with that anymore

Ouch! Hope everything works out

Because I am kind of paranoid, this might happen a Muslim ISIS bomber may wear one of your fur suits to a convention to kill as many people as possible, also any number of weapons could be hidden inside with a fur suit wearer. you might want to inform french police of what your suits look like.

WAT

Because that was another language... I really hope you don't procreate. You might perpetuate the stupid...

also Cocofox is missing since Aug 27 in a Marseillaises airport. His parents state he never got on his flight. I think he is Canadian.Contact Levn an artist here on fa, for more information. For some reason ISIS has been targeting France for its' government's position to not force anyone to abide by french laws.

I am not talking to that Mandajo-biyatch stupid phuck.
I know a style that no one on the west coast has any idea of what it is. I have used it numerous times, I have a video on You Tube showing me standing up to a gang banger attempting to rob me at the gas station I worked at idea of what it is, it does not even have a name. The last guy i used it on I broke his gun right after i moved faster than he could think to link my hand around his revolver. The leader of the 5500 member gang came and asked me what I wanted one year later, I still can ask a favor of him if I want to. The Gang is a Hispanic one called the North Park Gang in North Park area of San Diego. I decided to move instead of ask a favor.
Now I speak from experience of helping to catch 117 criminals while I worked security both undercover in the then murder capital of the world Detroit and now in the new murder capital of the world San Jose California. I am sixty, I can kick ass and take names and i allow my partners to be the top. I will delete this after a day. I am still struggling as an artist trying to paint the way everyone else does but cannot get anything to come out as rich and well done as H0r3e can do.
Sorry for the long post but this jerk pissed me off. IF I were in Europe I would go and find out what the fuck happened to your suits myself, but I don't have a passport so I really can't. still I made a comment that though mean does ring true because vof the latest things happening in France of late.
I meant it as a warning too. I am sorry for this thing happening to you, I do hope it is only lost luggage and your stuff returns to you intact, and that my fears are wrong.

As another possibility your stuff may have gone to a different person at another airport. hopefully you are covered under insurance, or through the airlines insurance.

My father's luggage was lost once on a cross country flight. He got it back ... 6 weeks later and his suitcase was torn to hell, but everything inside was still there. The airline even gave him a $50 voucher to replace his suitcase and a voucher towards the cost of one flight, he didn't tell me how much that was.

wow D: i'm so sorry to hear horse :C hope they retrieved it by now
if not i hope they give a good voucher of the costs of your fursuits and everything else there was inside

TBH most ground crews are so busy that they won't really put much effort into looking for your luggage unless you really push them.
I would suggest call them at least three times a day. If they say it's at CDG, then call the AF counter at CDG three times a day.

That is sad to hear... There are many stories of lost or destroyed luggage & fursuits due to the incompetence & actions of airlines and their handlers.