This helps alittle bit.

So considering the story Kharma is quite hgh level huh?

Kehno listens and lifts up finger. "mr Kharma, Sir... When I summon a creature that could teleport me, wouldn#t that safe me Miules?"
*smart ass grin*

Logically speaking, yes, but that requires A) knowing which creatures can do that and B) convincing it to do so, which it may well not be agreeable to. Summoning something to beat someone up is easy, they usually like doing that anyway; summoning something to be your personal teleport-bitch is another matter altogether :P

Kehno writes it all down "Well. If I treat him fair I doubt he would mind helping me hehe!"

Also; I kinda know a thing or so about Magic. Well, least my character(s) does.

Only one thing missing from the graph. About where is Kharma's glove limit? I'd assume somewhere in the 3-4k range since he could lift some somewhat heavy objects in the last few pages.

The limit of Kharma's gloves, as he determined in his own early experiments, is around 1,000 miules. The mana he was using in the last few pages wasn't going through him, but around him - so he was able to circumvent the glove's trigger point and do things he normally couldn't, until the aetherite gems in the gloves drained it all up anyway.

Makes sense. Great chart and thanks for clearing that up

This chart reminds of something my biology teacher once said, in reference to taking notes on certain topics:

How would you like to go see Star Wars and take notes on it?

Little confusing if you don't catch that the second line flows right to left. I missed the little thing connecting the third and fourth speech balloons, and had to back up to figure out why Kharma's next paragraph wasn't making that much sense.

I see you're using the "No Such Thing As A Free Lunch" rule. I like that. Far as I can tell, not even a god could break that rule. Even with infinite power, you've still got to spend energy to make things happen. Why should magic users get to break a rule that no deity could?

Indeed! If it was possible to do anything with magic, what's to stop some psycho with magical powers pulling a comet down and wiping out all life on earth? Nothing except a badly written plot hook, that's what.

Or some kid with a giant sword, if the Final Fantasy series is to be believed. =P

The power of love and friendship conquer all!!!

http://missmab.com/Comics/Vol_431.php

*snrk* I love that comic. X3

But in all seriousness, are you trying to confirm what I say, or do you disagree? I'm gonna need more to go on than a link to a DMFA strip. =P Not that I want to start an argument, mind. I'm just curious why you posted it.

I'm going to put it this way...there's an old saying "Think, and it is." If you think you can...there's a way it can be done. To say something 'can't' or 'doesn't work', to me, makes me want to go somewhere to learn how to break the rules of can and cannot. Whether gods and such can or cannot all depends on the story or legend, and even if they can't, then we should raise the bar and do what they can't.

Just my feelings.

*shrugs* I don't wish to trample anyone's feelings, and your sentiment is one I applaud. This is just a law I've observed that seems to hold true even for my own God, Jesus, who's supposed to be omnipotent. Yet it seems to me that even God has to actually expend energy to do anything, especially things like parting the Red Sea or healing people of illness.

It's not that I'm saying this or that thing is impossible to accomplish. I'm just saying you have to pay a price for everything. Both physics and the Bible seem to agree on this point, for you cannot achieve work without expending energy, and even God had to pay a horrible price to redeem mankind. If he could get something for nothing, and he is all powerful, then why would that price be necessary?

I don't want to discourage you from your dreams. Just try to remember that you're not going to achieve them if you don't put some work into it. Even if you just wait for an opportunity, it will do you no good if you don't pounce upon it.

Am I making any sense to you? Or should I reword it another way? ^.^;; I confess, I'm not always sure of my wording. I do love to ramble a bit.

I understand.

Good. Glad we had this talk.

Awesome and really useful !

Maybe you could add the limit Kharma's gloves settle (unmodified and modified) to be even more specific !

It's certainly... Illuminating hehe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgSGnjOjs4U

I forgot to ask this

If it takes +100,000 or more mana to open a portal to another word or demention what about stabilizing an incoming portal to allow one person to pass how much will that take?

Due to how much mana it takes there's not been a great deal of study into it, but what little is known shows that it's the casting mage or mages expending the mana, and the recieving location doesn't need to do anything more than exist.