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Nishidor pulls up my sixth persona from the nail in the ground
Kamui and Nishidor were both looking for her, for the same reason
And that's because the three of them are related (to be explained in detail in the next part)
Feel free to ignore the long story I have:
Almost five years ago is when I started heavily playing as my persona, Kamui. NailGunGirl, the female I ran into, I guess she was what you could call a troll. (This was all on a website, I know it's silly.) So being the preachy, uptight teenager I was, I just wanted to make her miserable and fight with her all I could to get her to stop ruining the place that I loved.
I think in the end it made me worse than a troll because I was acting at my worst trying to get rid of her. Though, I really learned a lot from her, and found that she really just wanted a place where she could say whatever she wanted, and be herself around others there.
That just made me realize what a crappy thing I was doing - I wasn't alone in disliking her (I think she made over 100 accounts from being banned all the time,) but I think her cause was more noble than my own.
Eventually she just kinda stopped showing up, and I disappeared a bit from there too. A couple years after her disappearance, I created NailGunGod, who was designed to look like the same avatar she used to carry. I made it for the sake of my memory of her, the history she left behind, and the impression she had on me.
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Nishidor pulls up my sixth persona from the nail in the ground
Kamui and Nishidor were both looking for her, for the same reason
And that's because the three of them are related (to be explained in detail in the next part)
Feel free to ignore the long story I have:
Almost five years ago is when I started heavily playing as my persona, Kamui. NailGunGirl, the female I ran into, I guess she was what you could call a troll. (This was all on a website, I know it's silly.) So being the preachy, uptight teenager I was, I just wanted to make her miserable and fight with her all I could to get her to stop ruining the place that I loved.
I think in the end it made me worse than a troll because I was acting at my worst trying to get rid of her. Though, I really learned a lot from her, and found that she really just wanted a place where she could say whatever she wanted, and be herself around others there.
That just made me realize what a crappy thing I was doing - I wasn't alone in disliking her (I think she made over 100 accounts from being banned all the time,) but I think her cause was more noble than my own.
Eventually she just kinda stopped showing up, and I disappeared a bit from there too. A couple years after her disappearance, I created NailGunGod, who was designed to look like the same avatar she used to carry. I made it for the sake of my memory of her, the history she left behind, and the impression she had on me.
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I've been watching these, too. Interesting, even though I don't understand some of the deep significance it must have for you -- it's as it would be for anyone who's RPed extensively. I have my own little collection of memories regarding my main Psychedelic Av in the Napping Cat's Dream. If I were to put up stuff about him here, it'd make just as much sense.
Good stuff you're doing here, in any case. :)
Good stuff you're doing here, in any case. :)
It's really cool how the different sides of you/your past intermingle the way they do (at least that's what i'm gleening from these).
Also, it's good you learned from her but she wasn't necessarily noble. Finding a place where you can be yourself is something to pursue but you gotta earn the respect and trust of the people there before you can do that (if they're not accepting of you at first) and it sounds like she was just trying to wing it the whole time :c
Also, it's good you learned from her but she wasn't necessarily noble. Finding a place where you can be yourself is something to pursue but you gotta earn the respect and trust of the people there before you can do that (if they're not accepting of you at first) and it sounds like she was just trying to wing it the whole time :c
Hehe, I'm glad they can interact with each other like this, and maybe I can help all these different sides rest a bit easier when I finish. :3
I don't think I'm really the best judge for it, you're right - she wasn't respectful or anything like that, and that's why I didn't like her. She was really rude and immature... I'm sure there was a much better way she could have gotten her point across if that's really how she felt.
I don't think I'm really the best judge for it, you're right - she wasn't respectful or anything like that, and that's why I didn't like her. She was really rude and immature... I'm sure there was a much better way she could have gotten her point across if that's really how she felt.
Hehe, well during that time, there wasn't much offline that I was really passionate about, or any dramatic relationships I had with others, so this is what effected me instead. :B Whether it's online or offline, you can still learn a lot from your interactions. (:
Aww, that little story about NailGunGirl is pretty touching. Even if she was a troll, it's not like all trolls are horrible- and the fact that you give her a bit of a homage in character-form would probably mean a lot to her if she saw it.
... But damn, man. Your comics are still made of win.
... But damn, man. Your comics are still made of win.
Hehe, I don't think she'd even remember just one person that used to fight with her years ago.. and she's probably just think I'm an extreme version of one of her little fan boys if she did find out. 8D There's still a little more to my story with her, but I won't get to write about the end of that for... about 3 more comics. :3
Thanks for the encouragement despite how confusing it all is! It makes me happy. (:
Thanks for the encouragement despite how confusing it all is! It makes me happy. (:
Aww, don't mention it, Oxxy. :3 I love your art and such- and the comics are great, if a little confusing. I'm sure there's some pretty good symbolism going on there, too- stuff I probably wouldn't get if I wasn't there- but it all comes together so nicely. X3
Keep on, man. You rock. <3
Keep on, man. You rock. <3
Kazootles! Just when I thought the story couldn't get any deeper, it does! Huzzah!
Nail Gun Girl is a most unique character indeed. I remember, back when webbing was young, all the unique sites you could get onto to meet people. I personally didn't do a whole lot, but I know the late 90's brought us a lot of intro, social networking where people first started learning how to interact through this whole new medium. Some were able to do it well, while others used it as a way to vent out angst toward, who they deemed, faceless people. Ironic how, today, we are finding such social networking to be causing modern teens to do terrible things to themselves and others just for some attention on MySpace or YouTube.
On a more personal note, your Nail Gun Girl brings up a wound of my own. As most know, I grew up a sore thumb amongst "normal" kids. Then, I made the terrible mistake of joining with some other kids in teasing a guy who had a bit of a speech impedement. I feel I did it because I wanted to be on the other side for a change, but man was a monster for allowing myself to be like that.
Over time, I have attoned for this mistake and have become close friends with the guy who I once partook in teasing. However, on an odd note, the wound of knowing I purposely treated him so poorly still haunts me today. I don't know if I will ever be able to feel 100% good about myself for how I 180'ed the situation. However, I try to constantly, through my actions, let him know that I have not forgotten and how truly sorry I was for being such a jerk back when I was in Middle School.
Nail Gun Girl is a most unique character indeed. I remember, back when webbing was young, all the unique sites you could get onto to meet people. I personally didn't do a whole lot, but I know the late 90's brought us a lot of intro, social networking where people first started learning how to interact through this whole new medium. Some were able to do it well, while others used it as a way to vent out angst toward, who they deemed, faceless people. Ironic how, today, we are finding such social networking to be causing modern teens to do terrible things to themselves and others just for some attention on MySpace or YouTube.
On a more personal note, your Nail Gun Girl brings up a wound of my own. As most know, I grew up a sore thumb amongst "normal" kids. Then, I made the terrible mistake of joining with some other kids in teasing a guy who had a bit of a speech impedement. I feel I did it because I wanted to be on the other side for a change, but man was a monster for allowing myself to be like that.
Over time, I have attoned for this mistake and have become close friends with the guy who I once partook in teasing. However, on an odd note, the wound of knowing I purposely treated him so poorly still haunts me today. I don't know if I will ever be able to feel 100% good about myself for how I 180'ed the situation. However, I try to constantly, through my actions, let him know that I have not forgotten and how truly sorry I was for being such a jerk back when I was in Middle School.
I think a lot of us have had moments like that where we haven't acted our best - and for all sorts of reasons too. I think yours is understandable though, there's a reason behind everything. (: I'm glad that you were able to become friends with him in the end, but I think I know what you mean about feeling like you totally recovered either. When we find out that we can be terrible, even when we say sorry and make up for it and do what we can, we still live on knowing that we could just do that again and not be aware... or maybe just feel bad about being susceptible to it the first time. I guess finding out we all have faults, maybe ones that are larger than we thought, is just part of growing up. I think it's honorable of you to try to right your wrongs and acknowledge what you've done though. There are still plenty of adults that don't exactly do that themselves. :3
Agreed. And, for those adults who can't, it all comes down to either being too proud to do so, or feeling that too much time has passed to repair the damages. This latter point is quite interesting, as you find out, when someone does step up to re-initiate relations, all parties felt the same about feeling it was too late to apologize and, therefore, were clueless on how to properly do it without fearing further hurt, or just making things worse.
Another issue, that I feel is worth noting here, is how making up with people has become even harder since the advent of e-mail and text messaging. For instance, my wife recently got into a scuffle with one of her friends. It was the friends' fault and, eventually, the friend sent a card in the mail to start the olive branch process. However, when I asked my wife if she'd call her to acknowledge it, she opted to "Text" instead. Along these lines, I have heard of other situations where people are becomming too cowardly to solve their matters via anything that isn't text based. This is unfortunate, because, as you may agree, there's something a voice can do that letters on a screen cannot. That thing is show "inflection." Voice-to-voice or face-to-face communication also allows for instant questioning of what a phrase, or gesture, means so that those involved don't have time to over-react and make things worse that have no need to be made worse in the first place.
Another issue, that I feel is worth noting here, is how making up with people has become even harder since the advent of e-mail and text messaging. For instance, my wife recently got into a scuffle with one of her friends. It was the friends' fault and, eventually, the friend sent a card in the mail to start the olive branch process. However, when I asked my wife if she'd call her to acknowledge it, she opted to "Text" instead. Along these lines, I have heard of other situations where people are becomming too cowardly to solve their matters via anything that isn't text based. This is unfortunate, because, as you may agree, there's something a voice can do that letters on a screen cannot. That thing is show "inflection." Voice-to-voice or face-to-face communication also allows for instant questioning of what a phrase, or gesture, means so that those involved don't have time to over-react and make things worse that have no need to be made worse in the first place.
Hehe, there's so much worry that goes with problems people have, and trying to make them right. And all while we think about what to do about it, it takes away more time, which makes it harder to get back to whatever's passed. Whether it's online or offline, that part's always there. :B
Oh yeah! I think it's likely that even more people fight because of e-mail and other digital things, and don't have to make up with each other as much since they can avoid the other with a lot more ease. Luckily, I think this generation is getting a little better at knowing that it's better to be direct with important matters, but regardless of the time, when people want to avoid problems and conflict, they'll cling to whatever they can to do so - and that's much easier for those people today. I'm glad that even in those cases where I've heard people trying to break up or fight over things like that, at least one person won't accept it that way and will push to make it happen in person. (It seems a little harsh, but I guess when it comes to relationships with friends or more, it shows that it means too much to one of them if they'd rather have it face to face.)
I hope it won't become a terrible habit, I think I mentioned it before - the more time we have to deal with these things, the more our etiquette can improve! :3 At least that's one bright side to it. 8D
Oh yeah! I think it's likely that even more people fight because of e-mail and other digital things, and don't have to make up with each other as much since they can avoid the other with a lot more ease. Luckily, I think this generation is getting a little better at knowing that it's better to be direct with important matters, but regardless of the time, when people want to avoid problems and conflict, they'll cling to whatever they can to do so - and that's much easier for those people today. I'm glad that even in those cases where I've heard people trying to break up or fight over things like that, at least one person won't accept it that way and will push to make it happen in person. (It seems a little harsh, but I guess when it comes to relationships with friends or more, it shows that it means too much to one of them if they'd rather have it face to face.)
I hope it won't become a terrible habit, I think I mentioned it before - the more time we have to deal with these things, the more our etiquette can improve! :3 At least that's one bright side to it. 8D
You have a good point there. Time will, hopefully, allow people to learn a level of etiquette that will not only make online conversations more plausible, but also less likely to make headline news for how some poor teenager got randomly hazed via a MySpace page to the point they want to end their lives. I tell you, it's unbelievable how powerful a WORD can be. Though, as a writer, I would be the last one to ever say that words can't evoke emotions and touch the soul in ways similar to, or greater than, the spoken language.
On another note, which I'm surprised I can keep going on this, is how talking this way eliminates so many degrees of prejudice. Speaking like this undeniably proves how racism and prejudice is, for the most part, a superficial stigma.
To paint a picture, my blindness has ALWAYS been blazing obvious. Heck, my left eye hasn't worked since I was five years old and it is so out-of-whack that it has no natural color in it. For that reason, people who first meet me as a person would be treated to a "What the..." as they wonder why I have one brown eye and one cloudy, blue one. They would then notice a number of aspects I've come to know as "blindisms" that I've developed and do without even realizing I do them. These include not acknowledging facial cues, because I can't see them, and how I hunch over from how, until recent years, I always leaned over to do EVERYTHING so I didn't trip over anything. These obvious abnromalities earned me LOADS of teasing and alienation. However, as life is kind enough to do, there were those who took the opportunity to get to know me as a person and, surprise, found out I wasn't just a dumb, blind guy. Go figure, eh?
Another fun aspect in regard to social, super-ficial alienation is how those who fall in this category often become a part of the wonderful world of "geekdom" or develop unique, psychological abnormalities that can only be appreciated by a small group of people. I fall 110% under this description.
KAZOOTLES! *Cush-Cush* I do believe I "Ham"med this one up a bit too much. Sorry, Ox. ;)
On another note, which I'm surprised I can keep going on this, is how talking this way eliminates so many degrees of prejudice. Speaking like this undeniably proves how racism and prejudice is, for the most part, a superficial stigma.
To paint a picture, my blindness has ALWAYS been blazing obvious. Heck, my left eye hasn't worked since I was five years old and it is so out-of-whack that it has no natural color in it. For that reason, people who first meet me as a person would be treated to a "What the..." as they wonder why I have one brown eye and one cloudy, blue one. They would then notice a number of aspects I've come to know as "blindisms" that I've developed and do without even realizing I do them. These include not acknowledging facial cues, because I can't see them, and how I hunch over from how, until recent years, I always leaned over to do EVERYTHING so I didn't trip over anything. These obvious abnromalities earned me LOADS of teasing and alienation. However, as life is kind enough to do, there were those who took the opportunity to get to know me as a person and, surprise, found out I wasn't just a dumb, blind guy. Go figure, eh?
Another fun aspect in regard to social, super-ficial alienation is how those who fall in this category often become a part of the wonderful world of "geekdom" or develop unique, psychological abnormalities that can only be appreciated by a small group of people. I fall 110% under this description.
KAZOOTLES! *Cush-Cush* I do believe I "Ham"med this one up a bit too much. Sorry, Ox. ;)
Yeah, I thought that was just awful... and the way one of the guys behind it said, "I/People do this all the time" was just an example of the opposite hope, of people learning to do worse things with this over time. I guess people can really forget how what you say online isn't really so different from what it would seem like offline (or at least in cases like this.)
That superficial part too! I'm actually really thankful for that one myself. :3
Ehehe, "blindisms" might not be fun for ya, but at least it sounds like a light-hearted way to put it... like Bushisms! :3 It's neat how you can experience two worlds where this difference in how people might interact with you is pretty noticeable! Like I told ya before, I never would have guessed you had a problem seeing at all if you hadn't mentioned it on here. At least it might make things a little less hectic for ya when you're on here, but I hope it's not too terribly different for ya offline!
Hehe, a difference can really uh, make a difference as to who you are! At least I think those who don't go around in what seems like that big, social flow seem more like my kind of people. :3 Though, even some of my friends I can tell really want to be a part of that big group, and submit themselves to peer pressure or do all sorts of things for acceptance, which is kinda disheartening... but I'm glad some people are fine with being there and maybe even proud of it! :3
Don't worry, I like hearing what ya say! Though I'm sorry if we've commented a lot or too much and it takes a lot of time the past few days... I'll enjoy it at any rate it comes. (:
That superficial part too! I'm actually really thankful for that one myself. :3
Ehehe, "blindisms" might not be fun for ya, but at least it sounds like a light-hearted way to put it... like Bushisms! :3 It's neat how you can experience two worlds where this difference in how people might interact with you is pretty noticeable! Like I told ya before, I never would have guessed you had a problem seeing at all if you hadn't mentioned it on here. At least it might make things a little less hectic for ya when you're on here, but I hope it's not too terribly different for ya offline!
Hehe, a difference can really uh, make a difference as to who you are! At least I think those who don't go around in what seems like that big, social flow seem more like my kind of people. :3 Though, even some of my friends I can tell really want to be a part of that big group, and submit themselves to peer pressure or do all sorts of things for acceptance, which is kinda disheartening... but I'm glad some people are fine with being there and maybe even proud of it! :3
Don't worry, I like hearing what ya say! Though I'm sorry if we've commented a lot or too much and it takes a lot of time the past few days... I'll enjoy it at any rate it comes. (:
Oh, no. I have no problems with the comment ratio. The fact we are able to have such exchanges is great for me in the sense that...
1: I have someone to talk to
2: It keeps my mind sharp for when my condition allows me to go job hunting again.
Your thinking and artistic form are very intriguing to me. I'm even more intrigued about how open you are to open discussions that relate, or I hope relate, to the actual material.
Something I have noticed lately that I am sad I didn't remark on earlier is how it would appear your comments are getting less "???" and are becomming more laden with remarks of interest. I do see you still getting those who are confused, but everyone is not going to understand the ideas of everybody. It would be like me expecting everyone on Earth to like my writing. It's just not possible. However, if you can positively touch even a few people, you know you've got something. Honestly, I feel your "Circle" comics have done well for you in that way. Would you agree?
1: I have someone to talk to
2: It keeps my mind sharp for when my condition allows me to go job hunting again.
Your thinking and artistic form are very intriguing to me. I'm even more intrigued about how open you are to open discussions that relate, or I hope relate, to the actual material.
Something I have noticed lately that I am sad I didn't remark on earlier is how it would appear your comments are getting less "???" and are becomming more laden with remarks of interest. I do see you still getting those who are confused, but everyone is not going to understand the ideas of everybody. It would be like me expecting everyone on Earth to like my writing. It's just not possible. However, if you can positively touch even a few people, you know you've got something. Honestly, I feel your "Circle" comics have done well for you in that way. Would you agree?
Hehe, I like having someone to talk to too! :3
...And it gives me something to do while I continue not job hunting! Ehehe. 8D
I noticed that as well! Well, at least until this one where i was told a lot that others didn't understand. As much as it breaks my heart a little, I'm still happy that people let me know, instead of me making these and hearing nothing about them. (: I think especially with something like this it's no wonder others are lost and confused, but even before I made this my stuff's been confusing to others. 8D Even if it does get me down, I wanted to keep doing it for myself, and your comments really helped me keep moving through it too! You still tried to pick up ideas from my work and make use of em, and I even had a lot of fun sharing more ideas in response! I really appreciated that... and all the other nice things people said along the way!
I guess I could have just said, "I agree." Ehehe! :D
...And it gives me something to do while I continue not job hunting! Ehehe. 8D
I noticed that as well! Well, at least until this one where i was told a lot that others didn't understand. As much as it breaks my heart a little, I'm still happy that people let me know, instead of me making these and hearing nothing about them. (: I think especially with something like this it's no wonder others are lost and confused, but even before I made this my stuff's been confusing to others. 8D Even if it does get me down, I wanted to keep doing it for myself, and your comments really helped me keep moving through it too! You still tried to pick up ideas from my work and make use of em, and I even had a lot of fun sharing more ideas in response! I really appreciated that... and all the other nice things people said along the way!
I guess I could have just said, "I agree." Ehehe! :D
Ack! Job hunting! I can hardly wait to do that again. Then again, I know so many tricks-of-the-trade that, when I do, I plan on annoying so many people until they hire me. My first, full-time job out of college took me SIX MONTHS to get. I will not wait that long for such satisfaction. Nope, nope, nope!
If you don't mind me asking, how is your search going? I am not only a Masters in Business, but my last employer was an employment, recruiting firm. I learned LOTS of tricks about how to design resumes and how to coach people on job interviews. If you should have any questions, or frustrations, please feel free to run them by me. I'd be glad to put my background in the field to work for you. Especially since, as I learned first hand, college's aren't exactly "direct" about providing the right advice about procuring post collegiate employment.
If you don't mind me asking, how is your search going? I am not only a Masters in Business, but my last employer was an employment, recruiting firm. I learned LOTS of tricks about how to design resumes and how to coach people on job interviews. If you should have any questions, or frustrations, please feel free to run them by me. I'd be glad to put my background in the field to work for you. Especially since, as I learned first hand, college's aren't exactly "direct" about providing the right advice about procuring post collegiate employment.
That made me laugh. :D You must know a lot about getting work if you can annoy people and still get the job. :3 And I hope you're able to do it in less than 6 months too! Even if things aren't so good economically, I'd like to think there's still plenty of stuff for us all to do!
Ehehe, when I said "not job hunting" that's really what I meant! I moved from my old town and job half a year ago and only applied to two places since then. I'm still in college, so these were just at local stores instead of finding something career-based. :B For some reason I don't think I'm surprised hearing that there's a bit of a gap after college, I've had some lecturers mention the same difficulty. Hehe, I'm glad to know I know someone that's already gone through that though, and thank you for offering help for it too! Hehe. :3
Ehehe, when I said "not job hunting" that's really what I meant! I moved from my old town and job half a year ago and only applied to two places since then. I'm still in college, so these were just at local stores instead of finding something career-based. :B For some reason I don't think I'm surprised hearing that there's a bit of a gap after college, I've had some lecturers mention the same difficulty. Hehe, I'm glad to know I know someone that's already gone through that though, and thank you for offering help for it too! Hehe. :3
Anytime, Ox. Actually, I envy you, or anyone for that matter, who is in college now. With the way jobs and economy are, you couldn't ask for a better time to sit in the Ivory Tower and learn all you can. Heck, depending on how much you have left, the pursuit of a graduate degree would be an uber good move for anyone set to graduate within the next year. :)
Since you are still attending, I must ask if ANY of your lecturers have ever told you about your campus' "Career Service Center?" Almost every college has one and, frankly, they are the most under used and under appreciated buildings on campus. Fortunately for me, I caught on to it the semester before I graduated with my MBA. It's amazing what you can learn from reviewing sample resumes and going through a "mock interview." If you are set to graduate soon, I highly advise annoying these people as often as you can to get some direct feedback on your in-person, interviewing technique. Also, if you are uncertain of where to go in your field, they also offer fun and exciting personality inventories you can partake in that help you, through a series of questions, uncover a bit more about you and what you like. Big surprise for me, I'm an extrovert who excels at working in group / team settings.
If I could be so daring, what field of study are you delving into? Also, as a fun side-question, is this a field you chose because you were interested in it, or because someone told you it was the only way to go based on economic / future prospects?
Since you are still attending, I must ask if ANY of your lecturers have ever told you about your campus' "Career Service Center?" Almost every college has one and, frankly, they are the most under used and under appreciated buildings on campus. Fortunately for me, I caught on to it the semester before I graduated with my MBA. It's amazing what you can learn from reviewing sample resumes and going through a "mock interview." If you are set to graduate soon, I highly advise annoying these people as often as you can to get some direct feedback on your in-person, interviewing technique. Also, if you are uncertain of where to go in your field, they also offer fun and exciting personality inventories you can partake in that help you, through a series of questions, uncover a bit more about you and what you like. Big surprise for me, I'm an extrovert who excels at working in group / team settings.
If I could be so daring, what field of study are you delving into? Also, as a fun side-question, is this a field you chose because you were interested in it, or because someone told you it was the only way to go based on economic / future prospects?
Ehehe, yeah yeah! Even if it's a big cost at a bad time - I think it's probably better to be learning than to have finished learning and not being able to work at the moment. (I was gonna room with a guy by my college for convenience, since he's already got his degree and worked for a couple years as a chef, but neither of us have had luck getting a job in the past couple months... so I should be thankful for my position!) I just got my AA degree last year, so I think I have about 3 years until I get my BA. I think it's amazing you have an MA (if I understood that correctly), especially in something like business! Too cool. :D
Oh, I've heard about it, but never been! That's actually a really good idea. :D It reminds me of when I found out about the Student Service Center - where you can get academic advice from teachers about classes and degrees... and I thought that one was under used and under appreciated! So I think Ill be sure to find out more about where ours is, and hopefully even put it to use a couple of times too! That's pretty smart. :D
Hehe, and I took a class kind of like that too! I was able to interview some local people in my related field, and take the MBTI and other personality test, where I think it said I was an Introvert? I guess we might be kinda opposites, because group work is my least favorite, ehehe. 8D
Oh! I like art too much to do anything else. I was an English major for a short time, and I enjoy studying it, but I don't think it's as right for me. I think being a graphic designer is too competitive and maybe a little misunderstood (at least on my half), so I'm trying to find something else. I think I found typography pretty interesting, and my academic advisor said I underestimated all the kinds of jobs they have available in that department. :B I think all through school I've heard that there's always a need for artists in one way or another, so I guess it's not something I'm worried about there being no need for later on. (:
Oh, I've heard about it, but never been! That's actually a really good idea. :D It reminds me of when I found out about the Student Service Center - where you can get academic advice from teachers about classes and degrees... and I thought that one was under used and under appreciated! So I think Ill be sure to find out more about where ours is, and hopefully even put it to use a couple of times too! That's pretty smart. :D
Hehe, and I took a class kind of like that too! I was able to interview some local people in my related field, and take the MBTI and other personality test, where I think it said I was an Introvert? I guess we might be kinda opposites, because group work is my least favorite, ehehe. 8D
Oh! I like art too much to do anything else. I was an English major for a short time, and I enjoy studying it, but I don't think it's as right for me. I think being a graphic designer is too competitive and maybe a little misunderstood (at least on my half), so I'm trying to find something else. I think I found typography pretty interesting, and my academic advisor said I underestimated all the kinds of jobs they have available in that department. :B I think all through school I've heard that there's always a need for artists in one way or another, so I guess it's not something I'm worried about there being no need for later on. (:
*shrug* I guess I should've known you were an art major. Especially based on the fact you not only do your own work on here, but also have a reputation around for quality commissions. *cush-cush*
If I may, I'd like to compliment your decision to pursue the Bachelors Degree. Sure your debt is going to go up, but I can tell you an Associates barely does anything for anyone these days. See, as a recruiter, I worked with a lot of people who had TONS of physical experience who were looking for jobs in their respective, engineering niche. However, I had to actually turn many of them down because of how anal companies have become in regards to education. Honestly, I think the concept is prejudice and horrible. Heck, I had a guy who had 25+ years of automotive experience as a Plant Manager I couldn't help move into a plant startup simply because he didn't have a Bachelors Degree! He had an "Honarary" Bachelors, but not a real one. Ouch!
Here's yet another fun question for you to answer only if you wish. Do you have a portfolio started yet? From those artists I've befriended, I've learned many have proud portfolios of their strongest work they keep around in the event they are in an interviewing situation. Is this still the case? If so, what sort of work do you deem worthy enough to be in your portfolio?
To be fair, if I ever can get up for publication, I have PILES of manuscripts lying around. However, I'm only apt to want to show one off right now and it is the one I just finished before my surgery. Even that one, I am scared to show off as I have yet to get anyone to read it over to let me know that it would be worthy of reaching my target demographic of tweens. I may just go for it anyway, but I hate knowing I'm only gunning through via a, for the most part, egocentric POV.
If I may, I'd like to compliment your decision to pursue the Bachelors Degree. Sure your debt is going to go up, but I can tell you an Associates barely does anything for anyone these days. See, as a recruiter, I worked with a lot of people who had TONS of physical experience who were looking for jobs in their respective, engineering niche. However, I had to actually turn many of them down because of how anal companies have become in regards to education. Honestly, I think the concept is prejudice and horrible. Heck, I had a guy who had 25+ years of automotive experience as a Plant Manager I couldn't help move into a plant startup simply because he didn't have a Bachelors Degree! He had an "Honarary" Bachelors, but not a real one. Ouch!
Here's yet another fun question for you to answer only if you wish. Do you have a portfolio started yet? From those artists I've befriended, I've learned many have proud portfolios of their strongest work they keep around in the event they are in an interviewing situation. Is this still the case? If so, what sort of work do you deem worthy enough to be in your portfolio?
To be fair, if I ever can get up for publication, I have PILES of manuscripts lying around. However, I'm only apt to want to show one off right now and it is the one I just finished before my surgery. Even that one, I am scared to show off as I have yet to get anyone to read it over to let me know that it would be worthy of reaching my target demographic of tweens. I may just go for it anyway, but I hate knowing I'm only gunning through via a, for the most part, egocentric POV.
Hehe, thanks! I think my parents told me that, "College isn't an option" so I definitely wouldn't just stop at an AA. :3 I'm glad to hear that it is really worth it, though it's kind of a shame that people that are good at what they do can get caught up in technicalities. At least in those cases, as tough as it is, it's not always too late to go to college? Sounds like an icky situation though. Ehehe, I haven't heard of an "Honorary" Bachelor Degree though. 8D
Ehehe, I have pictures or saved projects for my portfolio, but I don't have one big one ready to go. :B My school has a class you have to take to prep your portfolio, where they guide you as you make it, and then you submit it to the school to enter their upper-division level. It's supposed to be really stressful and difficult - my brother's wife tried the same thing there and didn't make it. But a lot of art classes make you create a portfolio for them by the end of the semester, of all the work you've made. And I was working on an online one earlier this year, but the book I was following didn't have many affordable web host suggestions for me, so I stopped in the middle. D:
With writing, instead of a portfolio filled with a lot of what you've written, would you just have sample works, or maybe one final piece like what you have? Focusing on one would probably make it a lot more stressful for ya. Tweens? Like teens and twenties? :B That's me! Ehehe, is there a certain time you have set up to send it to your publisher by? I think I'd be happy to read it over. (: Though, I'm at the end of semester for school with final projects and exams, so I don't know if I am able to thoroughly read through very much, but I'm sure I could read some parts for you, or do what tweens do well and skim over parts of it to at least get kind of a taste of it or something, though that might not be very helpful... I think I could at least do a little something, even if it's just like the first chapter or something, I'd like to help you in some way! :3
Ehehe, I have pictures or saved projects for my portfolio, but I don't have one big one ready to go. :B My school has a class you have to take to prep your portfolio, where they guide you as you make it, and then you submit it to the school to enter their upper-division level. It's supposed to be really stressful and difficult - my brother's wife tried the same thing there and didn't make it. But a lot of art classes make you create a portfolio for them by the end of the semester, of all the work you've made. And I was working on an online one earlier this year, but the book I was following didn't have many affordable web host suggestions for me, so I stopped in the middle. D:
With writing, instead of a portfolio filled with a lot of what you've written, would you just have sample works, or maybe one final piece like what you have? Focusing on one would probably make it a lot more stressful for ya. Tweens? Like teens and twenties? :B That's me! Ehehe, is there a certain time you have set up to send it to your publisher by? I think I'd be happy to read it over. (: Though, I'm at the end of semester for school with final projects and exams, so I don't know if I am able to thoroughly read through very much, but I'm sure I could read some parts for you, or do what tweens do well and skim over parts of it to at least get kind of a taste of it or something, though that might not be very helpful... I think I could at least do a little something, even if it's just like the first chapter or something, I'd like to help you in some way! :3
Thanks, Nishi. Honestly, if you would be interested once your finals are over, I would be happy to send you the first chapter to see if it catches your attention enough to want to read on.
From what I've learned, I need to do some unique things to get myself in the eyes of a publisher. First, I have to know my first three chapters are good eye catchers. This is because, obviously, nobody has time to read whole manuscripts a writer would submit. Second, I have to ensure that I can get over my biggest problem and that is writing about "Me." I'm awesome at writing anything else, but I am TERRIBLE at me. To give you an example, when I first did my after MBA job hunt, it would take me 3 to 6 hours to write a COVER LETTER! As you know, cover letters are mere one page descriptions of things that go beyond the resume and provide examples of ability. Eep!
That is great to hear that the college offers classes in how to put together your art portfolio. Does your advisor mention classes like this as "...it will make, or break, you in this major...?" When I pursued my Bachelors in Business, my advisor kept going on-and-on about a class where the core project was to work with EVERYONE in the classroom to develop a business plan to sell our town on why a company should start operations in it. Needless to say, I was scared to death of this one. Especially since I couldn't take it until my Junior year. I passed it, of course, but those classes are real nail biters. Nothing is worse then having your heart tell you that your in the major for you and being told that "if you suck at this class you aren't cut out for it."
With regard to portfoilios, since your art is an intellectual property, what seems to be the going strategy for those in your field to ensure you have a "leg up" on everyone else? I ask because, as you mentioned, online galleries are likely becomming more the norm and, as I worry for my writing, online sources mean posers have the potential to see what you do, copy it, and run with it potentially before you have the chance to do so yourself.
From what I've learned, I need to do some unique things to get myself in the eyes of a publisher. First, I have to know my first three chapters are good eye catchers. This is because, obviously, nobody has time to read whole manuscripts a writer would submit. Second, I have to ensure that I can get over my biggest problem and that is writing about "Me." I'm awesome at writing anything else, but I am TERRIBLE at me. To give you an example, when I first did my after MBA job hunt, it would take me 3 to 6 hours to write a COVER LETTER! As you know, cover letters are mere one page descriptions of things that go beyond the resume and provide examples of ability. Eep!
That is great to hear that the college offers classes in how to put together your art portfolio. Does your advisor mention classes like this as "...it will make, or break, you in this major...?" When I pursued my Bachelors in Business, my advisor kept going on-and-on about a class where the core project was to work with EVERYONE in the classroom to develop a business plan to sell our town on why a company should start operations in it. Needless to say, I was scared to death of this one. Especially since I couldn't take it until my Junior year. I passed it, of course, but those classes are real nail biters. Nothing is worse then having your heart tell you that your in the major for you and being told that "if you suck at this class you aren't cut out for it."
With regard to portfoilios, since your art is an intellectual property, what seems to be the going strategy for those in your field to ensure you have a "leg up" on everyone else? I ask because, as you mentioned, online galleries are likely becomming more the norm and, as I worry for my writing, online sources mean posers have the potential to see what you do, copy it, and run with it potentially before you have the chance to do so yourself.
I’d be happy to! :3 If you’d like, you can send it to me earlier and I’ll probably be able to finish reading before my finals are over.
Ah! That makes sense. (: If a story doesn’t pick up until the middle or end, that’s not going to be so good… A couple years ago, I would have given up on A Tale Of Two Cities for that same reason! :D But onto the other thing, it’s tough to describe yourself – humans are really complex, and trying to simplify your whole being into anything can be a troubling task if you actually think about it. And I think when there’s more pressure on the writing – like advertising yourself for a job, it’s even more difficult to try and simple it down – because you want the reader to get a certain perspective too. :B
Yeah! I think it was a relief to all of us to hear there was a class to help us set up our portfolio. I still don’t exactly understand much about it though. Hehe, that is a lot of pressure! :D I don’t know if I’ve had that happen yet, but eesh, it sounds scary! I’m glad you passed though – I guess it means that was right for ya! :3 I guess we all gotta have some classes that are good at making us sweat like that. :B
I guess I don’t really know that last thing myself! :3 I think the class might be able to cover both the “leg up” part and the online theft or posers part. The only thing I could really guess for myself with the little portfolio experience I’ve had is skill? :3 I remember for my first portfolio, this one student (I’m pretty sure he was high or something during most of our classes, he was just bizarre) stole a lot of pieces from others, and even one of my own. While our teacher was too kind and passive to really do anything about it most of the semester, in the end we found that the piece he tried to turn in was my own – my teachers suggest making your work consistent and recognizable, and it definitely helped in that situation. (:
But even online, I still like to believe that if nothing else, the heart you have in your original work is noticeable enough and can exceed the heart in the work of your copy, and that in most cases, the person copying you won’t be able to keep up with you, so it’d hopefully only be a temporary problem. I guess that’s just my personal feeling though… I’ll have to tell ya what the class actually suggests. :D
Ah! That makes sense. (: If a story doesn’t pick up until the middle or end, that’s not going to be so good… A couple years ago, I would have given up on A Tale Of Two Cities for that same reason! :D But onto the other thing, it’s tough to describe yourself – humans are really complex, and trying to simplify your whole being into anything can be a troubling task if you actually think about it. And I think when there’s more pressure on the writing – like advertising yourself for a job, it’s even more difficult to try and simple it down – because you want the reader to get a certain perspective too. :B
Yeah! I think it was a relief to all of us to hear there was a class to help us set up our portfolio. I still don’t exactly understand much about it though. Hehe, that is a lot of pressure! :D I don’t know if I’ve had that happen yet, but eesh, it sounds scary! I’m glad you passed though – I guess it means that was right for ya! :3 I guess we all gotta have some classes that are good at making us sweat like that. :B
I guess I don’t really know that last thing myself! :3 I think the class might be able to cover both the “leg up” part and the online theft or posers part. The only thing I could really guess for myself with the little portfolio experience I’ve had is skill? :3 I remember for my first portfolio, this one student (I’m pretty sure he was high or something during most of our classes, he was just bizarre) stole a lot of pieces from others, and even one of my own. While our teacher was too kind and passive to really do anything about it most of the semester, in the end we found that the piece he tried to turn in was my own – my teachers suggest making your work consistent and recognizable, and it definitely helped in that situation. (:
But even online, I still like to believe that if nothing else, the heart you have in your original work is noticeable enough and can exceed the heart in the work of your copy, and that in most cases, the person copying you won’t be able to keep up with you, so it’d hopefully only be a temporary problem. I guess that’s just my personal feeling though… I’ll have to tell ya what the class actually suggests. :D
Again, excellent points. Actually, you touched on the one matter that actually allows me to, a degree, trust those who would be considered as "strangers" to review my most precious work. I feel my style is quite distinctive and there really is no way anyone could genuinely copy my stories. Particularly since, no matter what, they all exist within the same universie despite not all taking place during the same time period or same world for that matter. Because of this, as you can guess, I'm a mega fan of cross-over tales. :)
With your art, have any of those closest to you ever mentioned of what makes your work "yours?" As creative folk, I find describing one's own style is next to impossible. However, those who have read mine, tell me my technique sticks out like a sore thumb and that a piece of mine has, as it could be said, its own, built-in watermark.
Personally, if I were to gauge a technique for you, I'd have to place it as being meaningfully whimsical. Your style, to me anyway, makes me believe that structure is one of the last things that matters. Rather, you like to let the work "speak for itself" by going moment-by-moment and seeing how the end result will bring it all together. How to say, a sort of "unchained" technique. This is not to say a clear plot, or concept, doesn't exist. However, if I were to guess, you aren't very anal abou how you get to it.
With your art, have any of those closest to you ever mentioned of what makes your work "yours?" As creative folk, I find describing one's own style is next to impossible. However, those who have read mine, tell me my technique sticks out like a sore thumb and that a piece of mine has, as it could be said, its own, built-in watermark.
Personally, if I were to gauge a technique for you, I'd have to place it as being meaningfully whimsical. Your style, to me anyway, makes me believe that structure is one of the last things that matters. Rather, you like to let the work "speak for itself" by going moment-by-moment and seeing how the end result will bring it all together. How to say, a sort of "unchained" technique. This is not to say a clear plot, or concept, doesn't exist. However, if I were to guess, you aren't very anal abou how you get to it.
Hehe, if someone took your work in Microsoft Word and found synonyms for each thing you said, or rephrased every sentence, I think when you look at the whole picture, they’d still see your work – the editing might be theirs, but the heart is yours. :3 And I think the whole “personal universe” thing is what makes games like Smash Brothers Brawl so popular. 8D
I definitely have to agree with the near-impossible style-definition thinga-majig. When people describe my work, they’re usually only seeing a certain kind of my work. Like from teachers, they can only judge it off of the work I submit in class. (Like in Ceramics I’m told everything I make is catawampus and has a child-like simplicity to it. ;_;) Or on my art blog, my stuff is usually cute and expressive, or like how you mentioned with my comics, there’s some kind of meaning I’m digging for, even if the way I do it is kinda unorthodox.
I’ve only started reading your work, but I think what you said is just right – it’s built into your writing. And luckily, I think since you’re a writer, it’s easier to have an idea of that because when we talk in comments or when you write journals or story descriptions, that all shows your writing voice too. :3 I actually really like it, because it’s easy me to read and understand! And I wish I could describe it beyond fluid, or sincere and steady… but I at least know your style is more organized than mine, maybe even naturally! I don’t think I can describe things best with words, so maybe style’s more like a voice, where you can only imagine things sounding a certain way depending on who they’re coming from. At least in that case, it’s more about knowing whose is whose, instead of trying to pin it down to adjectives. (:
I definitely have to agree with the near-impossible style-definition thinga-majig. When people describe my work, they’re usually only seeing a certain kind of my work. Like from teachers, they can only judge it off of the work I submit in class. (Like in Ceramics I’m told everything I make is catawampus and has a child-like simplicity to it. ;_;) Or on my art blog, my stuff is usually cute and expressive, or like how you mentioned with my comics, there’s some kind of meaning I’m digging for, even if the way I do it is kinda unorthodox.
I’ve only started reading your work, but I think what you said is just right – it’s built into your writing. And luckily, I think since you’re a writer, it’s easier to have an idea of that because when we talk in comments or when you write journals or story descriptions, that all shows your writing voice too. :3 I actually really like it, because it’s easy me to read and understand! And I wish I could describe it beyond fluid, or sincere and steady… but I at least know your style is more organized than mine, maybe even naturally! I don’t think I can describe things best with words, so maybe style’s more like a voice, where you can only imagine things sounding a certain way depending on who they’re coming from. At least in that case, it’s more about knowing whose is whose, instead of trying to pin it down to adjectives. (:
A wonderful point. Though, you hit the nail-on-the-head on why, I feel, my work can also be annoying, too. My "descriptive" style can have a tendency to either make the story too long, or potentially rob the reader of a good chance to imagine the situation, or characters, the way they want to. It's a flaw that has been pointed out to be me before. However, as far as flaws go, I cannot escape it. This is because, even in real life, I'm over-wordy and descriptive.
Since I'm a writer and you are an artist, I must share my envy of your ability to draw or sculpt what's in your head. It's an amazing gifit to be able to, quite literally, take the 1,000 words that picture is supposed to mean and translate them into that one image that, quite frankly, says it all.
Something else that is fun is how you mentioned your style seems to get noted as being "child-like" in both mediums you noted working in. Mine has a nasty tendancy to be that way, too. For that reason, I have tried to write with an "older" angle, but have failed and felt empty each time I did. Kind of like my characters were saying, "What's wrong with you? That's not how it goes!" It is for this reason I ask if you, based on how people described your work, have ever openly tried to move against the grain? If so, how did it make you feel to try and express yourself when, knowingly, you were pushing for something else instead of letting it come naturally from your mind?
In close of this next section of beastie dialogue, I must pay you one more compliment. That is how, despite the "off" responses you seem to occassionally get on here, you still press on. I've seen people give up over the fact that others who review their stuff "don't get it." In your future job endeavors, I do believe an attitude like this will serve you well because, if I were to guess, you truly enjoy art and what it stands for and what is capable of doing. In short, you are not just another "cookie cutter" art student who is doing this just because you can, but because you really, genuinely like doing it.
Since I'm a writer and you are an artist, I must share my envy of your ability to draw or sculpt what's in your head. It's an amazing gifit to be able to, quite literally, take the 1,000 words that picture is supposed to mean and translate them into that one image that, quite frankly, says it all.
Something else that is fun is how you mentioned your style seems to get noted as being "child-like" in both mediums you noted working in. Mine has a nasty tendancy to be that way, too. For that reason, I have tried to write with an "older" angle, but have failed and felt empty each time I did. Kind of like my characters were saying, "What's wrong with you? That's not how it goes!" It is for this reason I ask if you, based on how people described your work, have ever openly tried to move against the grain? If so, how did it make you feel to try and express yourself when, knowingly, you were pushing for something else instead of letting it come naturally from your mind?
In close of this next section of beastie dialogue, I must pay you one more compliment. That is how, despite the "off" responses you seem to occassionally get on here, you still press on. I've seen people give up over the fact that others who review their stuff "don't get it." In your future job endeavors, I do believe an attitude like this will serve you well because, if I were to guess, you truly enjoy art and what it stands for and what is capable of doing. In short, you are not just another "cookie cutter" art student who is doing this just because you can, but because you really, genuinely like doing it.
Oh yeah! Writing definitely can have that problem that pictures don’t seem to have. In pictures, all you have to do is look, but in your area, you have to read each word you choose to lay out. I guess that’s a big part of what makes it as delicate as the other arts around. I haven’t noticed that in your work or writing on here, but I don’t think I prefer the way some writers give you a character, but don’t give you any description. (Especially because sometimes, later in the story, some detail about him/her will pop up and it doesn’t match the image that’s been in my head all along.) As much as imagination is important, I’d think there’s a certain amount of detail readers definitely need. :3
Hehe, well I think both our jobs are tough! Trying to take the thoughts we have in mind and fit them in an image or words is really not that easy. It’s really impressive how writers can either use the language so poetically, or make it so thought provoking after so much has already been written. (:
Ah! I know just what you mean! Ehehe, but I can’t think of the time(s) that I did… maybe that means they just weren’t memorable enough. 8D I’d think anytime you tell an artist they have to do something a certain way, it kind of cripples what they can do. I’d think we are all about expression, so not being able to express what we really are can be a big problem, and even if we try to be something we’re not, that probably won’t make it as fun to do either. :3
But I still think trying new ideas and styles, even if it’s not like you’d normally do them, is still a good way to try and improve. Maybe we can still like what we made, or reach an audience we couldn’t get across to before. I think it’s important to at least stay open-minded to ideas, but if it’s just not who you are, it’s a tough act to keep up if you choose to do so. :B
Hehe, even when teachers tell me I’m not supposed to be drawing in class while taking notes, I can’t help it. :x Even when my friends online tell me they don’t understand what I make, I cant’ help but keep going. I think it’s more likely they would understand when I do finish the story than if I just dropped it in the middle. Even if I hear a lot of discouraging things, I think I have more reason (for myself and others) to keep going anyway. I hope that you’ll be able to do the same, even when you feel discouraged! (:
Hehe, well I think both our jobs are tough! Trying to take the thoughts we have in mind and fit them in an image or words is really not that easy. It’s really impressive how writers can either use the language so poetically, or make it so thought provoking after so much has already been written. (:
Ah! I know just what you mean! Ehehe, but I can’t think of the time(s) that I did… maybe that means they just weren’t memorable enough. 8D I’d think anytime you tell an artist they have to do something a certain way, it kind of cripples what they can do. I’d think we are all about expression, so not being able to express what we really are can be a big problem, and even if we try to be something we’re not, that probably won’t make it as fun to do either. :3
But I still think trying new ideas and styles, even if it’s not like you’d normally do them, is still a good way to try and improve. Maybe we can still like what we made, or reach an audience we couldn’t get across to before. I think it’s important to at least stay open-minded to ideas, but if it’s just not who you are, it’s a tough act to keep up if you choose to do so. :B
Hehe, even when teachers tell me I’m not supposed to be drawing in class while taking notes, I can’t help it. :x Even when my friends online tell me they don’t understand what I make, I cant’ help but keep going. I think it’s more likely they would understand when I do finish the story than if I just dropped it in the middle. Even if I hear a lot of discouraging things, I think I have more reason (for myself and others) to keep going anyway. I hope that you’ll be able to do the same, even when you feel discouraged! (:
I read all your conversation with yosh-e-o and I must say, It was a very interesting read, It touched topics I'm related to and other that are also both interesting and useful, the portafolio thing, the mock interviews, the self describing style problem. It also made me do an insight of issues I had , the "being terrible to someone" (that I was to a guy recently because I was not honest with him and to myself. We are ok and friends now), and even made me think more about what I want to pursue with my art.
So, reading your comic brought great movement in my mind, and it was awesome.
I would like to know you more actually! starting from the fact that we are studying the same thing I guess? Graphic design it is.
So, reading your comic brought great movement in my mind, and it was awesome.
I would like to know you more actually! starting from the fact that we are studying the same thing I guess? Graphic design it is.
Ehehe, it was so fun making these comics because him and I got to talk so much and get to know each other more! :3 So even if things got confusing, I'd still have something to look forward too. I went back and read some of our stuff too since you said so! ...But there was so much, I couldn't keep up with it all. 8D I'm glad you could relate and share some of the same feelings too! (:
I'm glad you and that guy are friends again now, and it's neat to know that we're on the same boat! I'll be taking my first computer graphic courses this semester - I thought you seemed a lot older than me! But only about two years, I see. :B We can be study buddies! 8D
I'm glad you and that guy are friends again now, and it's neat to know that we're on the same boat! I'll be taking my first computer graphic courses this semester - I thought you seemed a lot older than me! But only about two years, I see. :B We can be study buddies! 8D
I'm 23 and I have been immature as hell with university, that I failed several classes and i'm in risk of expulsion. I have the chance to stay however, but it depends on the dean of the faculty. I'm thinking positive that they will consider giving me the chance.
I also had an interview today with the producer of an animation studio, that is the field that I want to work at :] . Was a good first contact to the field :)
I also had an interview today with the producer of an animation studio, that is the field that I want to work at :] . Was a good first contact to the field :)
It's okay, I think my dad was on probation from his university because of things like that too. :B But positivity's a good start! :3
And wooo! That's so cool! :3 I'm glad there are still animation places around, and hat someone I know could get into one. Sounds like it went well, that's awesome! :3
And wooo! That's so cool! :3 I'm glad there are still animation places around, and hat someone I know could get into one. Sounds like it went well, that's awesome! :3
Sorry that I'm posting a comment so many years after you've long past finished this, but I'd like to note that I think that stuff that happens online is just as influential as what happens in real life. It pains me when people say "oh, they don't count because they are an online friend." Online friends are just as valid as real friends, and can be just as supportive and loving as what most people call "real" friends. I don't think it's silly for things that happened online to matter.
It's also interesting, how people can remember things that to others, may seem mundane. But such things can have such a big role in one's life. While I haven't been as influenced by an event like that as you have, I do still remember events and people that I knew online nearly 10 years ago, sometimes wondering what they are up to, even the people who have hurt me. I know they have probably moved on though. In life we meet so many people who are influential, but often just lose contact with them. It can be sad.
It's also interesting, how people can remember things that to others, may seem mundane. But such things can have such a big role in one's life. While I haven't been as influenced by an event like that as you have, I do still remember events and people that I knew online nearly 10 years ago, sometimes wondering what they are up to, even the people who have hurt me. I know they have probably moved on though. In life we meet so many people who are influential, but often just lose contact with them. It can be sad.
Hehe, I don't mind late comments at all! 8D Nothin' wrong with checkin' by old work. (: And I totally agree with what you say! I know it's common for people to look down on online stuff or feel embarrassed about it, but I think people now are more aware of how we all have online friends, and people here who mean something to us. And haha, it's cool after bein' online for a long time remembering some of the first friends and people we meet too! Though, even when I have seen them years later, I didn't really have much to talk to them about, sometimes it's just nice seeing someone again even if those sorta awkward moments happen. X3
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