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Forelimbs - by ecmajor

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     Posted: 2 years ago
     Category: digitalart
     Theme: Tutorials
     Species: Unspecific/any
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     Comments: 42
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anatomy leg foreleg

I sometimes see people who aren't accustomed to drawing the structure of ungulate legs make them bend the way that canine legs and such do, so i sketched this up. It could have been done better, but ah well. I hope it is helpful.

Hooved animals are literally walking on the tips of their 'fingers' (hooves are basically fingernails!) whereas pawed animals walk on their entire fingers. The bones between joints 2 and 3 in my diagram are equivalent to our metacarpals, or the long bones in the back of our hand. While people might refer to joint 2 on a horse as his 'knee' it equates to his wrist, in terms of relative anatomy.
Yeah, dunno how to describe it better than that, but i think that's fairly clear. XD

EDIT: Oops, i meant to put this in scraps! There.

User comments

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

you have no idea how much this helps :3

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Oh, this is awesome. +faving into infinity.

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

:o it makes sense now! thanks for doing this! *faves* lifesaver!

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Thanks for this! This'll be helpful~

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Thank you for posting this.
I have actually had this conversation with people, or how the joins even line up with human arms and legs.

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Yeah, we all have the same stuff, it's just arranged a little differently :3

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Ah yes.... All those people who talk of dog's legs like they have "reverse joint" knees...

I even remember animorphs talking about during the transformation to a wolf, having a sickening noise as the knee reversed direction.

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

They actually did that trick visually in the dreadful-even-by-werewolf-film-standards An American Werewolf in Paris. That's only one reason of many to hate the movie with a fiery vengeance.

( No Subject ) Posted: a year ago

God I've always hated that. As much as I still love the animorphs books it always pissed me off, because even as a seven year old I could tell that the knee was the same as a person knee and that the hock was an ankle joint. I don't unterstand how people can't understand comparative anatomy. Or homologous body parts for that matter.

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

This is super helpful I bet for a lot of people! Anatomy drawings are one of my favorite things out there, including skeletal structure, muscle and nervous system. ESPECIALLY those of horses. There is very little more facinating than a good horse anatomy book to read through occasionally.

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Given my problems with drawing unguligrade legs, I am saving this to my reference folder. 83

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

This certainly helps clarify a few things for me. When studying the evolution of animals, this is an important concept that comes up in how mammals of all types have similar parts that are in different configurations.

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Awesome avatar EC, and yes this is deff needed.

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Hey this is awesome! Very easy to understand. Thank you. :>

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Good understanding, but the canine anatomy is more stable than you have shown here, by how the weight is distributed. The wrist joint tends to stick out slightly, rather than dip to the top of of the toes like you have drawn here, and they put their weight on their entire pads, not their toes like hoofers. Their legs don't stand so straight as that of an ungulate, or feline even. :) Next time you should make a bigger example, just because it's nice to see another artist's understanding of how feral anatomy is.. and yes, I know you said it was quick, I thought I'd just say what I was interested in seeing. c: Awesome, I think I might do this same thing just so I can have others show me what's off about my understanding of anatomy as well.

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Thanks EC! This will help me out a bundle :D

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

THANK YOU!

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

I just tried puting my arms like a horses. it was very weird.

and this is very useful

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

^_^ Thanks Major!

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

omg awesome *favs*

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Very helpful, thank you! :3

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Wow, thanks. :) I can surely put this ref to good use.

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Any chance you could help me with drawing dinosaur legs/feet? That's something I have real trouble with.

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Not really my area of expertise, sorry :P I've never drawn a dinosaur.

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

chrissawyer should be able to help.

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Interesting... though it'll be years before I'll be able to put this to use.
Being a dense and very slow learner never really worked in my favor. xD

Faving to keep track of it. Somehow.

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Aww, the beauty of structure. Makes you believe in God.

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

This is quite helpful, thanks! :)

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

VERY helpful. Thank you! <3

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Excellent post! Although I finally worked out how to do digitagrade legs, hands and arms is still a bit tricky.

paws especially. OYI!

- Shado

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Yep, people like me))

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Did you know that elephants are also digigrade? They are NOT plantigrade like most people think! That's just a big pad of fatty tissue for their heel/wrist to rest on.

The more you know!

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Er, elephants are unguligrade, not digigrade. Bloodhound just woke up.

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

I learned that from my Elephants issue of Zoobooks as a kid. =D

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

When I did this sketch here: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1964155/ I very much started thinking about ungulate anatomy.

The basic end result is realizing that ungulates actually have ENORMOUS feet, if by feet you mean the same bones analogous to a human's. For this reason, I've tried to ask commissioners drawing Mela to give him slightly more drawn out and longer hands than the same proportions of a human's.

Excellent work here, I'm sure it will help people out.

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Good work! I am sure people will find it useful!

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

If you want to see someone who makes study of anatomy central to his art, look at Scale's page here. :)

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Very helpful. Thank you!

I had to go back and check your commission, I still don't know if I got the joints right, guh.

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Nice! Perhaps more useful in a larger context, however: a lot of the errors I see involving horse/unguligrade legs seem to involve the placement/angle of the shoulder and hip joints, not the lower legs so much. That one took me an embarrassingly long time to figure out, I'm sorry to say.

Wonder if it's worth contriving something similar for avian leg joints. BIRDS HAVE KNEES, IT'S TRUE. :>

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Holy crap. o_o

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Haha me and my roommate were just discussing this as I went on a tirade of how ungulates both freak me out and yet completely fascinate me simply because they literately walk on their toenails, the very tips of their fingers/toes, using their knuckles as a joint to move and propel themselves. As apposed to even their palms or soles, then knuckles/fingers for grip. Especially friggin' Equidae having only one toe per 'had/foot' so to speak to balance themselves on.

Either way, it's a good reminder to people who have trouble recalling how their legs bend and function and exactly where the joints lie. 10/10

( No Subject ) Posted: 2 years ago

Every reference I can get is helpful. Like the examples you have side-by-side for comparison. Been drawing off and on for a long time and have yet to achieve consistency in anatomy. This one is now in my list of references. Thanx very muchly for sharing.^^

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