
Commission for
TRAIN of his characters Lady Liberty (horse/tiger) and Dame Freedom (Tiger/skunk/deer) with my character Aries (Bighorn sheep)
All three characters are quite strong and seem to have a patriotic flare with their costumes so a team-up seemed inevitable. Let's just hope Aries can keep his eyes in his head while working with these two.
Characters are © their respective owners.

All three characters are quite strong and seem to have a patriotic flare with their costumes so a team-up seemed inevitable. Let's just hope Aries can keep his eyes in his head while working with these two.
Characters are © their respective owners.
Category All / All
Species Unspecified / Any
Size 801 x 1000px
File Size 166.6 kB
Well.....http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3041482/ .
Carc isn't a flag-waving American. He is of foreign-birth and raised in the former Confederacy. If anything he'd wave the German flag and the Confederate flag first. He doesn't have much faith in America (like Rorschach didn't have faith in society). However, he's destined to protect America and the rest of the world in due time.
Carc isn't a flag-waving American. He is of foreign-birth and raised in the former Confederacy. If anything he'd wave the German flag and the Confederate flag first. He doesn't have much faith in America (like Rorschach didn't have faith in society). However, he's destined to protect America and the rest of the world in due time.
Carc's initial thought would be "Hurm....not enuff black." then "Let me guess. Fair play. Negotiate. Take down, not take out. Swell....." Carc was raised and lived differently. If Aries, Dame Freedom and Lady Liberty knew a tenth of what Carc has done in what he calls "justice". They'd either, gag, faint, or attempt to arrest him. Lawful good adventurers and superheroes make him itch.
Cuz Carc (as well as I) KNOW people's nature. That's why Carc doesn't wear colors cuz he represents his colors. Of course all three have the opportunity to show Carc otherwise. The only star-spangled antagonist I remember was the 50s Captain America that Steve Englehart revived in the early 70s as a choatic, ultra-right wing, bigoted and most especially hateful nutbar.
Carc is usually in some form of trouble (if you read the series, the line of people that want to deal with Carc is rather lengthy). But Carc has NEVER backed down from anyone. The ONLY time he chose not to fight someone was 'Slide. When 'Slide's "failsafe" kicked in, his internal computer set on kill all unrecognized life-forms. Since Carc has recently de-aged, the computer didn't immediately recognize him. He managed to stay out of 'Slide's way until 'Slide regained consciousness.
Also, it seems our star-spangled trio is all about fair play and such. Carc is more a grim anti-hero who'd be the exact opposite of the trio.
Carc whips out his auto-shotgun and rapid-fires an attacking felon. The trio stare in shock and amazement.
Lady Liberty: You SHOT him!
Carc: Yeah...yer still alive, ain'tcha.
Carc whips out his auto-shotgun and rapid-fires an attacking felon. The trio stare in shock and amazement.
Lady Liberty: You SHOT him!
Carc: Yeah...yer still alive, ain'tcha.
Okay...cards on th' table....(people usually start heading for the exits when I say that)
I've had Carc & 'Slide going for eight years, which was public knowledge in furdom (usually referred to as "Addlesee's cigar-smokin' wolverine and Rich's cyborg cat"). Outside of a team=up with Savage Squirrel, and maybe an occasional cameo or an illustration by someone else. No one, and I MEAN NO one has EVER sacced up, stepped up, stood and delivered an invitation for Carc or 'Slide to appear in a story alongside their superhero or costumed adventurer. As much as I'm The Outsider in furdom, Carc & 'Slide are outsiders among their peers.
I've had Carc & 'Slide going for eight years, which was public knowledge in furdom (usually referred to as "Addlesee's cigar-smokin' wolverine and Rich's cyborg cat"). Outside of a team=up with Savage Squirrel, and maybe an occasional cameo or an illustration by someone else. No one, and I MEAN NO one has EVER sacced up, stepped up, stood and delivered an invitation for Carc or 'Slide to appear in a story alongside their superhero or costumed adventurer. As much as I'm The Outsider in furdom, Carc & 'Slide are outsiders among their peers.
Hurm...I thought we were going to sit down to a couple cups of coffee and I start off with "My name is Steve. I'm 51. I'm a Leo. My favorite color is black. I was born in Berlin, raised in Columbus Georgia. I like drawing, Captain America, cigars, superhero video games, and long-ass road trips. My turn-offs are idjits, bureaucracy and moonbat liberals.
Or something like that.
Or something like that.
Cuz, basically, you waved off your directive of getting better acquainted. I made the attempt ("my door is always open"). You replied about later inviting me to collaborate. Heck. I tried to get the ball rolling with that silly introduction about me. You replied something about living in a "different town". Yeah, wow, we certainly got acquainted. Since getting acquainted seemed out of the question, I felt a collab wouldn't work either. It's cool. I'll make do as I always have, in the spirit of the little red hen.
I waved off my directive?
What's that supposed to mean?
Look, at this time. I got stuff on my plate and I'm prioritizing.
Okay I couldn't see you now.
I live in, D.C. from you living in Georgia. I literally couldn't come and see you.
But I would make time online to talk when I have a chance.
So how could I as you assume wave off my directive?
What's that supposed to mean?
Look, at this time. I got stuff on my plate and I'm prioritizing.
Okay I couldn't see you now.
I live in, D.C. from you living in Georgia. I literally couldn't come and see you.
But I would make time online to talk when I have a chance.
So how could I as you assume wave off my directive?
You typed "As they say. Let's get to know each other." (your "directive")
Well, cripes, I'm right here. Get acquainted already. I typed "My door is always open (and I think some know why...PROWL! Where's my friggin' door?!)." I tried to make light of the situation.
Then you came at me with "Once my current commissioned comic is done. I invite your characters to an adventure." You typed that already and had nothing to do with getting acquainted.
I replied "Hurm...I thought we were going to sit down to a couple cups of coffee and I start off with "My name is Steve. I'm 51. I'm a Leo. My favorite color is black. I was born in Berlin, raised in Columbus Georgia. I like drawing, Captain America, cigars, superhero video games, and long-ass road trips. My turn-offs are idjits, bureaucracy and moonbat liberals.
Or something like that." I got the ball rolling to get you back on track. However, you replied "I live in a different town though."
At the time I had NO idea WHAT that meant before it finally dawned on me you meant literally meeting. I NEVER stated literally meeting. We can't get acquainted via typing? That's when I figure "if he doesn't want to get acquainted, no way in blue hell do we need to collab".
I hoped that explained it well enough for you.
Well, cripes, I'm right here. Get acquainted already. I typed "My door is always open (and I think some know why...PROWL! Where's my friggin' door?!)." I tried to make light of the situation.
Then you came at me with "Once my current commissioned comic is done. I invite your characters to an adventure." You typed that already and had nothing to do with getting acquainted.
I replied "Hurm...I thought we were going to sit down to a couple cups of coffee and I start off with "My name is Steve. I'm 51. I'm a Leo. My favorite color is black. I was born in Berlin, raised in Columbus Georgia. I like drawing, Captain America, cigars, superhero video games, and long-ass road trips. My turn-offs are idjits, bureaucracy and moonbat liberals.
Or something like that." I got the ball rolling to get you back on track. However, you replied "I live in a different town though."
At the time I had NO idea WHAT that meant before it finally dawned on me you meant literally meeting. I NEVER stated literally meeting. We can't get acquainted via typing? That's when I figure "if he doesn't want to get acquainted, no way in blue hell do we need to collab".
I hoped that explained it well enough for you.
Well please don't figure that I don't want to get acquainted. Yes I was going to tell you a little about me.
But at the time, I couldn't reply because I grabbed in other directions. My mother needed my help on some stuff.
I wasn't blowing you off when I said "Once my current commissioned comic was done. I invite your characters to an adventure" Now that was a misunderstanding.
Look I apologize, and yes I literally thought that you wanted meet me.
My name is Jawara, I'm 37, I like all kind of colors. Born in New York, lived most of my life in D.C. and Maryland. I have a lot of likes and dislikes. My turn-offs are Conservatives, the Confederate Flag, cigarettes, cigars, bureaucracy, simple minded idiots, unnecessary complexity, people being forever bitter, people forever holding a grudge against someone or something, and so much negativity.
I do like Captain America(Steve Rogers), U.S. Navy(I served), New York, Traveling, good music, and a lot other good things in life.
But at the time, I couldn't reply because I grabbed in other directions. My mother needed my help on some stuff.
I wasn't blowing you off when I said "Once my current commissioned comic was done. I invite your characters to an adventure" Now that was a misunderstanding.
Look I apologize, and yes I literally thought that you wanted meet me.
My name is Jawara, I'm 37, I like all kind of colors. Born in New York, lived most of my life in D.C. and Maryland. I have a lot of likes and dislikes. My turn-offs are Conservatives, the Confederate Flag, cigarettes, cigars, bureaucracy, simple minded idiots, unnecessary complexity, people being forever bitter, people forever holding a grudge against someone or something, and so much negativity.
I do like Captain America(Steve Rogers), U.S. Navy(I served), New York, Traveling, good music, and a lot other good things in life.
Heh...yer gonna HATE me then, since I probably represent most of your turn-offs. That's cool cuz like a hybrid car I roll with friendship or hatred as a fuel. I'm conservative, regard the Confederate flag as "The Standard" (but I'm regarding the heritage, not the slavery issue), smoke cigars and a pipe, and there's nothing wrong with being bitter, calloused, cold, dark, grim, hard, jaded, judgmental, realistic and serious or holding an eternal grudge when it's earned. I'm merely a product of my environment and experiences.
I do appreciate your service to our country (hand salute) and happy you're a fellow Cap fan.
If you think you can get along with this old sod despite all his turn-offs, then we'll give it a try.
I do appreciate your service to our country (hand salute) and happy you're a fellow Cap fan.
If you think you can get along with this old sod despite all his turn-offs, then we'll give it a try.
Hokay..after much reflection (especially after what happened last night), I'm going to decline on the idea of a collab. In previous collabs (with the exception of
eggplantman and
karno), other collabs have met with disaster and I'm beyond tired of yet another potential disaster.


Hokay...that's better.
I dunno how you could've been "confident" a collab would've worked when I raised so many "flags" in your "turn-offs". Also, it's not like you've thought for months "Gee....I wonder how a Carc/Ranger team-up would fly?"
True. We do move on, albeit in separate directions. You'll do fine. I'll plod through as I always have.
I dunno how you could've been "confident" a collab would've worked when I raised so many "flags" in your "turn-offs". Also, it's not like you've thought for months "Gee....I wonder how a Carc/Ranger team-up would fly?"
True. We do move on, albeit in separate directions. You'll do fine. I'll plod through as I always have.
Yep. I've been reading a bit of your conversation with train. I can see how Carc and Aries are quite different in many ways but I think I could still see them as getting along. Aries is a good team player and while he is not an anti-hero and almost a nice guy to a fault he can become ruthless when people he cares about are endangered.
Carc is also a bounty-hunter first, am I right? So his casework is a bit different. Carc is always going after really nasty guys while Aries is a superhero first and just as likely to be called to help with a disaster such as a collapsed bridge or a fire as he is a supervillain.
Aries' costume is much more "Silver age" style. Not so much practical as trying to make an statement. Many of Train's characters are similar.
Carc is also a bounty-hunter first, am I right? So his casework is a bit different. Carc is always going after really nasty guys while Aries is a superhero first and just as likely to be called to help with a disaster such as a collapsed bridge or a fire as he is a supervillain.
Aries' costume is much more "Silver age" style. Not so much practical as trying to make an statement. Many of Train's characters are similar.
Carc is primarily a bounty-hunter as it's his income, but he's also the leader of the superhero team that's supposed to save the world. Also, a fair percentage of those after him are supervillains and superheroes (he IS controversial and has accumulated a LOT of baggage through the decades).
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3041482/ has the best description of Carc.
Despite having some abilities, Carc would NEVER consider himself a "superhero". Carc could NEVER wear spandex or bright colors (except for the upcoming story where he takes on the Opposition in a rather nightmarish set of civvies). He's also difficult to get along with. He prefers to work alone, or with a TRUSTED friend. He does things HIS way and he LOVES to be large and in charge. Although he appears and acts like a brutal cigar-smoking wolverine, he's always finding weaknesses to exploit and thinks like Batman (in the scene I'm working on now where Carc squares off against Devlin, it would've been easy for Carc to start a brawl, but he defuses the situation by relieving Devlin of his breathing apparatus and returns it to him in a gesture of truce).
Hokay, your turn.
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3041482/ has the best description of Carc.
Despite having some abilities, Carc would NEVER consider himself a "superhero". Carc could NEVER wear spandex or bright colors (except for the upcoming story where he takes on the Opposition in a rather nightmarish set of civvies). He's also difficult to get along with. He prefers to work alone, or with a TRUSTED friend. He does things HIS way and he LOVES to be large and in charge. Although he appears and acts like a brutal cigar-smoking wolverine, he's always finding weaknesses to exploit and thinks like Batman (in the scene I'm working on now where Carc squares off against Devlin, it would've been easy for Carc to start a brawl, but he defuses the situation by relieving Devlin of his breathing apparatus and returns it to him in a gesture of truce).
Hokay, your turn.
Exactly. Carc is a superhero but never thought of himself as one nor tries to act like one. Carc plays to win and uses his own set of rules which is perfect for his character as it has always worked in the past. He trusts only himself and his abilities having seen the way the world often works.
Aries was given the job of being a superhero and is trying to look and act the part as best he understands it. He is a bit naive and trusting and that is his biggest weakness. Aries could be easily duped by a pretty face or a clever ruse.
Aries was given the job of being a superhero and is trying to look and act the part as best he understands it. He is a bit naive and trusting and that is his biggest weakness. Aries could be easily duped by a pretty face or a clever ruse.
There are less than a handful of people Carc trusts. He trusts 'Slide and Sierra. In time he'll trust most of his "teammates". Considering the multitude of times Carc's been betrayed, it's no wonder.
Carc likes Aries because Aries used to be a "worker" (wrestler). Of course, Carc thinks Aries hasn't dwelled in darkness. There's a difference between a brawl and going after a supervillain who's the equivalent of the Red Skull. Carc doesn't need Aries trying to prevent him from killing someone in a firefight.
Carc likes Aries because Aries used to be a "worker" (wrestler). Of course, Carc thinks Aries hasn't dwelled in darkness. There's a difference between a brawl and going after a supervillain who's the equivalent of the Red Skull. Carc doesn't need Aries trying to prevent him from killing someone in a firefight.
Tough to call. I'd say Lady Liberty is overall more powerful than Aries just because she has most of his powers plus a bunch more plus weapons and training.I can't remember Dame Freedom's very well.
Aries is the strongest of the Zodiac team and only the Crabbot of Cancer's is tougher though he is a close second.
Aries is the strongest of the Zodiac team and only the Crabbot of Cancer's is tougher though he is a close second.
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