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This is the final piece for which I did the B/W pencil drawing of the WA2000 for. It is from the my Long Torso era but I still like it. It was the first time I attempted camo in a piece and overall I'm happy with it. Even though these camos probably never saw a day in the field! Too clean looking. Also I was very happy with folds in the shirt. The one thing that amazed while doing the research for this piece was how big WA2000 were! They weren't overly long rifles, but visually they were very tall. This helps give them their massive, solid appearance.
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Well, thats a Sniper gun, so you do not have any CQB with that thing. Also, wehn you use it everyday, you wont have any probs with a Bullpup rifle, its old fhasion thinking that the Bullpup is a bad idea. Ask the Brits, Austrians, South Africans and several other nations who use bullpup style rifles.
Its more compact because the barrel is the whole gun where as western guns are half barrel half stock, plus, the L85, Famas, and AUG are some of the most highly respected weapons in the field FAR more reliable than the American counterpart. UMP's make me die a little inside because they are caseless rounds they don't pierce ANYTHING.
Now the m-82 or the m-107 THOSE things make me a very happy Jennec
Now the m-82 or the m-107 THOSE things make me a very happy Jennec
I didn't say the bullpup was a bad idea *giggles* Like you said, for distance weapons, it's excellent, because you can keep a compact design and still have accuracy. In military applications however, the everyday grunt needs a weapon that can be accurate at a distance but is versatile enough to clear a building. The M4A1 is pretty much ideal for that kind of warfare. Snipers have a mystique about them, but in the real world, there are very few people dedicated to killing at extreme ranges.
The reloads on the bullpup rifles is also kind of clumsy, and a few of those British guys have admitted that they liked my M16 better ... I am most definitely not saying that the M16 and M4 is superior, because it has quite a few drawbacks too ... the only weapon I know of where it can be 20% humidity and the barrel rusts inside and out, plus I think we'd be better off with a .30 caliber round than the .223.
Bullpups have their place, and in the hands of someone who knows how to use them they're wonderful weapons. In the hands of casual shooters they're welcome and fun diversions, but in street to street, building to building warfare, I'll take my tactical weapons over a long rifle any day.
The reloads on the bullpup rifles is also kind of clumsy, and a few of those British guys have admitted that they liked my M16 better ... I am most definitely not saying that the M16 and M4 is superior, because it has quite a few drawbacks too ... the only weapon I know of where it can be 20% humidity and the barrel rusts inside and out, plus I think we'd be better off with a .30 caliber round than the .223.
Bullpups have their place, and in the hands of someone who knows how to use them they're wonderful weapons. In the hands of casual shooters they're welcome and fun diversions, but in street to street, building to building warfare, I'll take my tactical weapons over a long rifle any day.
Ya know, your M4A1 will sooner or later be replaced by the HK416. The Spec-ops guys already buyed them with thier own funds. Anyway, thing is, that die hard traditonalists that run the army will never love a bullpup rifle, even if its shorter and more compact, wihch is exactly what you need in CQB style warfare.
But its all am atter of taste. That the SA80 isnt a fav weapon among the brits is due to the fact the first weapons had real problems, they where utter garbadge. They needed over 20 years to fix that, but they had to buy HK first to let them re-work the weapon completly.
It dosent really matter if you have a convetional rifle or a bullpup, wehn your soldier isnt poreply trained, it wont work, its that simple. Expect your weapon is an AK, but thats another story.
But its all am atter of taste. That the SA80 isnt a fav weapon among the brits is due to the fact the first weapons had real problems, they where utter garbadge. They needed over 20 years to fix that, but they had to buy HK first to let them re-work the weapon completly.
It dosent really matter if you have a convetional rifle or a bullpup, wehn your soldier isnt poreply trained, it wont work, its that simple. Expect your weapon is an AK, but thats another story.
Two questions ... how many Green Berets do you know, and when's the last time you had to reload in CQC?
Worming your arm around so you can get to your magazine is never a good thing when you're fighting in a tight space. The present Bullpup rifles will never replace the tactical weapons used by spec-ops, as you put it, or infantry.
By the way, the military leaning towards a receiver for the M16 and M4 that is designed liek the AK receiver. Essentially combining the reliability of the Kalashnikov receiver and the accuracy of the M16. That's going to be the next gen infantry rifle, not the HK, not the M8, not any of the European designs.
Worming your arm around so you can get to your magazine is never a good thing when you're fighting in a tight space. The present Bullpup rifles will never replace the tactical weapons used by spec-ops, as you put it, or infantry.
By the way, the military leaning towards a receiver for the M16 and M4 that is designed liek the AK receiver. Essentially combining the reliability of the Kalashnikov receiver and the accuracy of the M16. That's going to be the next gen infantry rifle, not the HK, not the M8, not any of the European designs.
There was an article in the Army times about that as well as some other newspapers that said the Delta Force and SEALs buyewd HK416 with thier own funds. AK upper recivers on M16 rifles? In what Gummiebear world are you living in? I never heard anything like this and I dont think it will ever happen.
Dude, you're obvious not military, you're just some know it all that no one likes at the gun shows. I'm not going to waste any more effort on you, because you're not worth it, and the poster of the image doesn't deserve to have the comments cluttered up like this.
You're poor grasp of English is proof enough for most that you're not, never have been or never will be in any special forces branch. Have fun making yourself look like an idiot while you boost your own ego
You're poor grasp of English is proof enough for most that you're not, never have been or never will be in any special forces branch. Have fun making yourself look like an idiot while you boost your own ego
Well, I´m german, so excuse my english. Well, you also have not given a proof to me that you ever served in any military branch yourself, nor any Special Operation Force. I know what I know and dont need to justify anything I say or do.
Also, the avatar is General Carrington from the comic XIII, wihch I´m a fan of. I used Bond avatars a whole time and though I need a change. If you think it makes me a poser to be a fan of a comic figure, then go ahead, thats all fine by me.
As soon as you provide me with the info about the "AK upper and M16 lower" thing then I belive you, but ignoring the fact that the Army Times has published an article about the purchase of HK416 by Delta and SEALs isnt making you anymore belivable then I am.
Also, the avatar is General Carrington from the comic XIII, wihch I´m a fan of. I used Bond avatars a whole time and though I need a change. If you think it makes me a poser to be a fan of a comic figure, then go ahead, thats all fine by me.
As soon as you provide me with the info about the "AK upper and M16 lower" thing then I belive you, but ignoring the fact that the Army Times has published an article about the purchase of HK416 by Delta and SEALs isnt making you anymore belivable then I am.
Ah. Very interesting, I guess my impressions were formed from examining photos of soldiers in wartime field conditions where I guess laundry consists of pounding it on a rock. It would make sense though that the bases should have good laundry facilities since thousands of men and women running around and doing messy works they are going to generate tons of dirty clothes! Thanks for the feedback
*giggles* no problem ^.^ ... Though the end of the old style and the new digital uniforms pretty much killed that industry. Very few of the dedicated dry cleaning shops are left. Around Bragg, a lot of the shops have tailor businesses too, so most of them stayed afloat ... but there's an upside, no more shining boots! Yay! ^.^
Heh, ya know, I dont think the ACU wont survive that long. I think the ACU and all those other branch specefic uniforms are a waste of cash. Its One US Armed force, so they should all get the same uniform that works best. I find it silly that the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines all have thier own pattern now, wehn they all could use one uniform for all branches.
Tradition man, as you said earlier, the US Military is deep with it. And I believe you will find is true of the military of any nation. Besides being able to tell a Marine from a Soldier at a distance can be handy. I don't think that Naval needs have enough in common with the Army, Marines, or even the Air Force, to justify their using the same uniform. And I personally like the new Army camos, the patches are very handily placed for rank identification... That would be a cool thing to be emphasized in one of baron's pics. And yay for no boot shining!
Well, its the pattern, its not really "universial" at all. Back in the 80s, everyone wore BDUs and hell, did you saw the Navy and Air Force uniforms? They look like from some sci-fo movie or a privat military of some South American country or something.
They should have simply adopted MARPAT for all branches and be done with it. Hell, show me a Western Nation that gives thier armed bracnhes diffrent combat uniforms. Germany dont has that, the Brits and French dont have that, you name it. Stange enough, all thier uniforms work pretty well and no one complained that the wear the same dress.
They should have simply adopted MARPAT for all branches and be done with it. Hell, show me a Western Nation that gives thier armed bracnhes diffrent combat uniforms. Germany dont has that, the Brits and French dont have that, you name it. Stange enough, all thier uniforms work pretty well and no one complained that the wear the same dress.
Well, I simply ask you, who the hell needs camo in a Office anyway? Also, you have unit taps and whatnot on your uniform that reads ARmy, Navy, Marines and Airforce. Also, simple id for Troops: Army always wears patches, Marines dont wear any patches at all, same with the Navy and the Air Force wears patches on on the breats.
That was the basic way to id troops back in the Woodland BDU days. Also, the argument is simple: its ONE NATION Armed Force, so they can all wear the same stuff, then they need to work together anyway. The diffrent uniforms will only fule the rivality between the branches instead of working together. Also, its a waste of Tax money that could have been better spend.
But ya know, as a german, I dont worry about that, then our guys wear Felcktarn and in the desert Tropentarn and I can tell right away from the shoulder taps and the insigina if that Soldier is from the Heer, Luftwaffe or Marine.
Also, in the filed, I dont think you really need to ID the diffrent branches, its enough wehn you can ID freind from foe. You can always PM me with that topic, ya know, so we dont need to discuss this via comments. :)
That was the basic way to id troops back in the Woodland BDU days. Also, the argument is simple: its ONE NATION Armed Force, so they can all wear the same stuff, then they need to work together anyway. The diffrent uniforms will only fule the rivality between the branches instead of working together. Also, its a waste of Tax money that could have been better spend.
But ya know, as a german, I dont worry about that, then our guys wear Felcktarn and in the desert Tropentarn and I can tell right away from the shoulder taps and the insigina if that Soldier is from the Heer, Luftwaffe or Marine.
Also, in the filed, I dont think you really need to ID the diffrent branches, its enough wehn you can ID freind from foe. You can always PM me with that topic, ya know, so we dont need to discuss this via comments. :)
The pants are sweew, but I love how you gave the feel of woodgrain in the stock. I'd love to see you one day try to tackle (if you've done it I just haven't seen it) a really used gun, mainly the stock. All the guns I have ara quite old and used and the most intresting thing about them is the stocks, the ware marks and the carvings and what not. I'm sure you'd make it amazing looking.
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