“Also, I don't know if I am using the right term: Femboy. Some describe them as Crossdressers, cunt-boys, sissy-boys and girly boys. Which is correct in this case?”

“Cuntboy” is used exclusively for men who have a vagina, so that's out.
I don't think anything else has an official definition, but if you want my opinion...

I myself reserve “cross dresser” for someone who is trying to pose as a woman, or dressing as a girl specifically because they're girl clothings, not necessarily because of the fashion. I suppose the superficial deciding factor for me is the inclusion or exclusion of a bra.

I can't help but see “sissy-boy” as a frillier, pink-dress sort of cross dresser.

Just plain “girly boy”, though, that seems more general and more appropriate for boys who just dress sort of girlish and act thusly.

Girlyboy, Femboy and Crossdresser are fine. A Cuntboy is a Male with a Vagina, althuogh personally I don't see the attraction.

I agree with the horsey. He shouldn't be some kinda sexual object, he should just be himself, people should like him for who he is as a person, and not just wanna fuck him silly because of how he looks

I Second this view.

i third that

Yeah. That applies to anyone and everyone, no matter what their gender, race, sexual orientation, etc. People are so much more worthwhile when you get to know every aspect of them.

One might argue that this work has a great deal of relevance to most furs regardless of stripe. We are a community that prides itself on sexual freedom and openness, and many among us have some of the same problems with peer pressure, objectification, and social isolation.

In fact the appeal of this whole series to me is the broad sense of relevance, and the fact that you approach the subject with such thoughtfulness and sensitivity. It really is food for thought.

Horse of course of course :P

the thing is, being openly proud of your body means that you're willing to show it off... in a very sex driven culture this will make some draw the assumption that you must be willing to share your body as well... With the whole effeminate attitude, this puts you a few rungs down on the ladder so people assume you are gonna be getting on your knees for them... Some people, thats how they want it. Some people, they like it that way. the problem is that not everyone's mind is that simple... "a girl in a man's body" is a very deep way of looking at it, and in some cases means a lot more...

Take me... i am effeminate (as if the icon doesn't give that away), and while i adore the sexual presumptions about being girly, the truth is, i wish i were female a little... that desire isn't sexual, its maternal. people around me understand it and accept it (except my parents, but thats ne'er easy in conservative communities...).

The trick to keep the happy trail from derailing easily, is to have people around you that don't see you as a sex object (whether or not you let yourself be one is irrelevent) and people that think you are beautiful and on occasion, totally cute...when people say mean things, dont get angry, dont get sad... people question what they dont understand...ignorance is the cause of fear (yes i just quoted people for those two)... be proud of who you are, and dont you DARE be afraid of anyone who doesn't like you. Be adventurous, not necessarily sexually adventurous, but... an example, i have a skirt and corset that i wanted, but i wasn't sure of my size. I was going to just guess, but my friend said that i should buck up and just ask, so i asked a girl from the store if she could help me find my size. my god it was like seeing a child open the christmas toy they asked santa for...she spent almost half an hour helping me try them on. moral is... You can meet some wonderful people just by opening up a little bit :)

Cute horseboy. Too long but I did read. staying away from that part there.

I love this. People often question me for being a guy or a girl.
When they find out I'm a guy, they call me gay.
*rolls eyes*

I've been slender from birth and I don't really pay much attention to my body.
A lot of people say I'm feminine...I guess I just have a few more
feminine hormones than most guys....and I love it.

I'd like to think that no matter how the public perceives you, it's your choice who you are. If he doesn't want to have sex then he shouldn't, if he's asked to he should keep saying no because he doesn't want to. He is a femboy because that's what makes him comfortable, but if he starts pushing to be a femboy by others standards then it loses it's purpose because he's no longer comfortable with it. You have to be true to yourself and keep yourself happy, so you can be a good influence on others.

Hmm...Well, there's a few issues this really brings up in my opinion. For one, the horse seems to be hauling image as a primary indicator of his identity. This is a mistake. If one uses image as an indicator of identity, then their personal identity will be weak and insecure, because image is fleeting, superfluous, and rated by popular opinion. On top of that, he's comparing what he's trying to bring in as his personal identity to images that other people are using for fetishistic reasons.

If I saw someone actually saying this, I'd assume it's a "bit off more than he could chew" situation. The fact is, when you wear clothes that genderbend, you're immediately doing one thing: you're addressing the presentation of your sex and gender (sex being your default genitalia, gender being superfluous traits applied normally based on sex, but are a cultural phenomenom and not necessarily linked to sex on a natural level.) If you're going to address the presentation of your sex and gender, you need to have thought about thoroughly what it is to be your sex and whatever gender you present. Naturally, people assume you have some interest in the act of sex, and that you would have thought about it. Because they assume you've thought about it, they will project their own expectations on to you, and be confident you're on the same wavelength and then make a move. They will then discover what ideas you really have about intercourse. The usual concept is that if you dress of a specific gender, you expect to be treated like that gender. The problem is that people are not highly creative, and don't think on a conceptual level of what it might be to be treated like a female in bed beyond the fact that the female is most traditionally the receptive partner.

There's also various ways to dress feminine. The important thing of the concept of why you're dressing effeminately. Is it social pressure because your sex is female? Is it defiance of social mores and stereotypes? Is it the way described here, where it's a celebration of sexuality and youth, and an attempt to show off the body? Here's one thing about showing off and celebrating one's body: The people who appreciate it will want to celebrate one's body with that person. The description of what's being done is patently sexual. It's a display, like a peacock. Anyone can try to say it's not, but to consciously dress up in tight clothes with the specific intent to show off the body is a sexual display. There is little other point to show off the body than expect appreciation or comment, and if you dress to display sexual parts (either literally by exposing or just by giving them prominence) then those comments most likely are going to be sexual (especially if you're in a sexual area, like a nightclub). There are many ways to still dress effeminately without it having to be sexual or 'executive' style wear. If one was assuming that was the only way to dress as a feminine boy, then they are just as guilty of their own stereotyping as anyone else. In the opposite direction, you can also celebrate youth and sexuality without dressing effeminately if those were one's only desires. Socially for males there will be a small amount of feeling less masculine anyway, because to dress for display is to betray the concept that the masculine gender is the one that does the looking, and is not the one who is looked at, though this is changing heavily currently.

It is also unfair and selfish to try to celebrate one's own sexuality without celebrating the sexuality of others either, even in the face of stereotyped repetition. This doesn't mean that anyone who crossdresses in a flamboyant, sexual manner has to be receptive to all flirting (especially if it's not their sexual orientation), but they don't need to feel put off by it. The fact is, if someone hits on a person based on their "type", in this case it being a femboy, it's a sense of acceptance and encouragement of that type. It may not be from a desired candidate for a relationship, but at least it's some positive recognition encouraging a relationship. The quest for an intimate relationship, after all, is not a quest for popularity. It's like if a straight woman hits on a flamboyant, gay male (not necessarily a femboy), it's an acknowledgement that there is a desire for straight males to act like him, and his openness of both behavior and sexuality provides an example it's acceptable. If a gay male hits on a feminine, straight man, it is from a desire to see more feminine gay males, and the straight male's openness and behavior provides a social example that it's acceptable as well. It is not this specifically literal, but this is the subconscious, social interaction that is occurring.

The final fact is crossdressing, or behaving in a manner opposite the traditional ascribed social roles for one's sex, is still uncommon. That's changing, but slowly. While sexual stereotypes and objectification should not exist, they do, and that won't change without individuals who continuously have the bravery to challenge them and move them forward in the face of having to constantly explain themselves to new folks. People do not expect the attitude of, "I am a male who, while not entirely female, will not be restricted by the stereotypical expectations of being a male. I feel they hold back what I can offer, and limit the depth of my interactions and expressions both publicly and sexually." If a male does not have the strength to say that, maintain that, find the ways to best build and display that, and deal with the misinterpretations as he moves along, he has no business saying femininity is actually part of his identity. Just as the horse in the picture questions, he can act like a fetish object, he can take on his own identity and deal with being an individual, or he can stop being effeminate altogether. The usual strength to being an individual, however, comes from no longer being able to withstand the social pressure of being something you hate.

I absolutely love it when you do pieces like this and I am glad to see you return to those very pieces that cause people to question what their values are and challenge perceptions, and in such a way as to endear a character to the furry public, if even an anonymous one never to return to art again.

Your gender questioning pieces always hold a special place in my heart as I am transgender, and even amongst my community there seems to be this feeling that most crossdressers are only in it for fetish or shock value, even though it is highly likely that for many, the desire goes to a deeper spiritual level, but is different than the transmale or transfemale trying to outwardly become that which they picture themselves. Or there is the assumption these people are transgender themselves, even though that is not always the case. It makes it very hard for intersexuals and androgenous people to live in a world where you are almost forced to pick male or female, and I am not surprised it can be hard for the effeminate man as well.

I wouldn't mind seeing you tackle the cuntboy (male body with a vag: also sometimes a female to male pre-op transsexual, those these people prefer to be treated like normal men)/ herm (not the oversexualized hyper body parts but rather the normal sized herm) and maleherm (herm minus tits) genders as well. Most pictures involving these are oversexualized to the point most people don't consider it another type of gender, but rather a simple fetish, despite the fact there are people who either have this as a birth defect or people similar to transgenders, who identify along the border of male and female, but neither one or the other. Yet time and again, even in psychologists offices the feeling of being a herm or desire to be one is treated as a simple fetish.

Even the concept of "fetish" itself can be addressed. Many people have fetishes, but they aren't necessarily sexual ones. Yet these people are treated as perverts, or expected to want sex, or even seen as lesser beings simply because they are into something other people aren't, that is usually associated with sexual play.

's great to see the final product ^^ the shading in the picture gives it a lot of depth especially the creases in the bedsheets: I like too how the unsure look in the character lends itself to their thoughts in the blog. It's also a little ironic that he has dull green sheets with the conflicting pink wall (it really suggests that he's trying to come to terms with things too). The layout as a Facebook type thingy works well too ^^

You've got across a lot of stuff in such a short amount of text and i think it gets the things we discussed across well (and much more) I'm glad to be able to help you out a little with that ^^!

With all that text there are usually a bunch of things people miss in the bulk but you've really got it down well ^^ there are two plurals that maybe shouldn't be there (first paragraph "Treats" and third paragraph "accepts"), a missing apostrophe in the fourth paragraph ("it's") and a little typo in the second paragraph of "feminane". Other that that everything is great!

As others pointed out "cuntboy" is an androgynous type of hermaphrodite (male upper boy and female lower body) but other than that the idea you got across was succinct and works well. The addition of the character saying they are a female in a males body adds a different slant to the regular "I wear girls clothes because some boys like it sometimes" motive and adds more problems when it comes to sexuality and the difference between fandom pressure and psychological intentions.

Well, I just have to say, that it doesnt make a lot of sense for someone to be taking pictures of his erection through his shorts if he doesnt want to be seen as a sexual object. D:

Arnold Schwartzenegger said it best, "Girly Man"

Cute, loved reading this

it can vary. there are "pretty boys" femboys" crossdressers" and the men who truly feel like they should have been born female. some are gay, some are straight. Some guys just happen to be born with more feminine features, others tries to connect to a feminine side on purpose.

It's what i try to do with Zibri.... he's a straight male, but very much feminine, and has a female persona he likes to crossdress as, that he considers his happy side. some guys do that, ... dress in women's clothes for comfort (there's a character in Fruits basket that does that as well, the monkey).

I had a friend in highschool who loved the theater and flowers, and talked like he would sound stereotypically gay, but he was very much straight. And Visa-versa, I've known guys that are gay but dressed, looked and liked "manly" things.

And then I'm a girl that likes boys clothes, giant robots and comic books, and work in a warehouse. But I think its more acceptable for girls to be "tomboys" then for guys to be "femboys"

Stereotyping is bad, I try not to.

Ok i just have one thing to say other than the unyeilding I have for the high quality praise for this pic :D (( Not being sarcastic either I really do like this pic )) But something I thought of makes me laugh constantly whenever I see this pic XD. I'm just gonna out and blurt it XD If he didn't dress like a total slut he'd prolly be more accepted XD It applies to girls AND bois. Don't dress like a toy and people won't think of you as a toy. There are ways of appearing girly without actually wearing skanky clothes XD

That out of the way :P It's a great pic ^w^ Makes me consider doing a pic of my own based on this pic's concept o.o

Crap i hate dyslexia! D: I meant unyeilding praise i have for this high quality pic x.x Sorry for all that get confused v.v

i think this is one ogf the most interesting mediums used so far on FA. A mixture of art, fiction and semi=biographical/experiential looks at life a an socially emerging effeminate teen/adult. You touched on so many issues in so short a peice...which is just awesome. I cant offer much advice from an internal perspective...because while Ive dated femboys...repeatedly ...I am actually pretty 'butch' or tough...so I've never faced any of those problems. I do know enough from intuimate conversations with boyfriends to know that you hit on the very common problems of gender identity, self worth being dangerously tied to feminine looks/attractiveness, and being judged inside and outside the gay community. Its a tough place to be in emotionally...and it creates the kind of person I always find most attractive...strong exterior and a fragile interior...very determined but equally filled with uncertainty...very emotive and expressive.

All in all, this pleases on so many levels. Well done!

this is really charming, thanks for sharing

Aww, that's so cute!

Cuntboy would be the wrong term, since that's associated with an actual sexual organ change. Any of the other terms would generally apply, except you don't really have to look like a girl to crossdress, necessarily. Crossdressing is a practice of feminine boys, not a classification of body and appearance.

I can understand this. I could see how a feminine guy may not necessarily be interested in sex, but rather want to be pretty. However, there is a bit of a particularity in my eyes.
There is the girly guy who dresses up because they enjoy expressing their youth and body. Then there's the girly guy who dresses up to look pretty and attract attention. They're two different categories.

You mention in the blog that he considers himself a "guy in a girl's body." There's been quite a different aesthetic in the way I've seen transgender people present themselves. There's two sides to this one, too: some of them are very sexual and interested in attracting attention and wear clothing to make themselves look attractive--and those that AREN'T interested in appealing as a "slutty" type don't hesitate to display their body in a femenine way but do so in a far more tasteful fashion. From this, people that speak to them don't have to look twice to understand the seriousness of their decision to express their identity.

It doesn't mean one side is more or less serious than the other. It just means that if you dress in a certain way you will attract a certain crowd, and you need to know how your appearance will affect your audience. If a girl dresses like a slut, she's going to get catcalls. She knows this, so she wears long skirts, pants and modest blouses instead. She's still womanly or girly if she chooses to be, but she doesn't need to show off her panties under the hem of a very short skirt to do it. It's like you're wearing a uniform: people recognize the symbols, and you using them is going to cause them to expect certain things of you.

Example: I take my identity very seriously. My sexuality demands to be expressed and I take great care of detailing it in my art. But I'm QUITE sexual. So I have no problem with wearing short skirts and flaunting hints of underwear, of having big thighs and showing off my belly.
It's really up to the individual to understand how to face society to get the results he or she wants. You can't expect the world to change, and even the fandom is a long shot. Best learn to be very up-front about not wanting that sexual attention.

Awesome. Alexei is one femboy I can take seriously.

As I stated in the DeviantArt submission, this speaks to me. The comments also clarify a little bit of fog that is still in my mind.

I feel more comfortable now about wanting to dress more effeminately. ModernFelvet's comment also helped me with the conflicting ideas that went through my mind.

I'm 19 years old, straight, live in central Alabama, am a christian, and have loving conservative parents. Yet, I feel so secure with my sexuality and also my spirituality to where I can dress in tighter clothes or even girl clothes and not feel bad about my choice. I feel comfortable in both normal "masculine" clothing and "femboy" clothing. My personality is that more of a female's, rather than a male's. I can take an interest from the beauty of nature to the awesomness of metal music.

It's also good to have friends who don't judge you for how you look or how you act. I've got a younger friend who is like a little brother to me. We discussed stuff about being femboyish and crossdressing. He too is straight and he would like to crossdress.

One of the reasons I like the furry community is because of the openness. It's nice to be able to draw and write and not be criticized for your views or depictions.

When I first saw this, I just wanted to paw to it. Because of the unique design, I took the time to read the text, and by the end I felt very moved. I think you were able to discuss a lot of the issues prevalent in many sex-related cultures; it's nice to see someone so openly talking about them.

Hope you keep doing what you're doing!

agreed

he's adorable, but I can see how tragic that lifestyle can be. if i had any advise, i would probably say "be who you want to be, as long as you are happy, if you are truly happy with yourself and don't worry about what others have to say, you'll never be alone in your endeavors"

i wont say i'm a expert on the subject, cause i'm not, i really don't know much about it. I personally like being called a femboi . I really don't think there is a proper name per se, just what one choses to be called.i agree with the horse. one shouldn't be automatically viewed as a sex object just because they are feminine.

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That's amazing! :D He should just be who he is, and those who can see the person he truly is will like him for who he is. I hope he finds a mate someday, someone who will love him not only for the fact that he's super cute, but also for his heart as well. I would, for sure.

mmmm I like horses c:
Do you yiff rp?

Awwww it's alright to be a fem boy,i understand and care about their feelings...cuz i myself is Bisexual
PS:You look very cute ^^

First off, I am fairly well aware of the whole sexual side of the femboy thing, being a gay male, who is attracted to femboys. However, I don't like to think that they should be considered sexual objects any more than the next person. Knowing a few femboys myself, I can say they have a range from actually being rather effeminate, to being not at all effeminate, but like to crossdress, and still consider themselves femboys. An old EX of mine was a bit of a wanna-be femboy. Wasn't feminine at all or anything, but he wished he was born a girl and such. However, I did end up leaving him, one main reason being that he was extremely sexual. To the point of treating me like a piece of meat. -_- I'll be honest here. I'm a guy, and rather dirty-minded. However, the real reason that I like femboys so much is that they have a connection with themselves that a lot of people just don't have, and they are willing to accept and display their true self despite the unwritten laws of society. Plus, I like the cute qualities they display, and they just seem to be pleasant to be around. As a generality of course. Outside of that, I find that the people that are outside the societal norms are the sort of company I like to keep, anyways, and that means that femboys, of course, fit that bill perfectly.
I would like to commend all the research the creator did here, and I personally really like the way he presented the reality of the way femboys are viewed, and how they really are. I feel that it was very creative, and very well written. And for that, I'm more than willing to drop the fact that I noticed a few spelling errors here and there.
Overall, a very nice job at presenting the topic. I liked this very much.

Poor kid.