<3 i'd love to have furries in real life...^-^ I think I'd really enjoy having a furry partner to spend my time with, and even a close friend once I get a lover.

head in the clouds, you has it.
beastiality, or robobeastiality in this case.
what you don't see in jail is when you are bent, ass up, for Bubba's pleasure, he has put on bunny ears. enjoy furry partner.

cheers!

on the other hand, see the movie Appleseed.

:O Not sexually. I meant a friend I could play with and someone to keep me company. >.< I live out in the boondocks...

One robot + one fursuit + one flesh light = profitable market?

I'd imagine owning one of those in the future will be analogous to having a car or a cell phone today. X3

That would say so many things about our society. XD

Indeed. XD I'm so writing a story about this.

Funny, serious, or erotic?

All three!

I could see it being written any one of the three ways... but to pull off all three in one story? *Bows*

If it were Michael Bay, there'd only be explosions.

Explosions just as big as the disappointment.

But then the disappointment explodes too!

Thanks. X3

that is more likely than through genetics :3 im waiting for the age where its like ghost in the shell, where human minds can be put into machines xD

actually was about to mention that, in all honesty ghost in the shell is the single most accurate depiction of the near future ive seen...i would say we are definitely no more then 5 years away from elective prostetics, maybe a decade on the outside..

the problem is they arent going to be able to just hook a usb cable up to your skull and suck the entirty of your being over into mechanical interface...unless they actually remove your brain and place it into a mechanism, it would basically be the same as cloneing an os and stored data onto a different computer, where it may or may not be properly formatted to run the hardware in its new running environment

so basically, with current limitations of technology, you would at best be able to mirror your self into a mechanical interface, but it would still only be a copy...you would still be you

that would suck imo make a copy of yourself, but not be your actual consiousness x3 (ie you wouldnt be in it ect ect)

i see something like the matrix happening before complete prostetic replacement imo xD

unless your a narcissist and want to yiff your self.........then it would be great, but as i am not...

"...is the single most accurate depiction of the near future ive seen..."

XDDDD

sorry... i really had to laugh. just because that sentence is so funny.

i love ghost in the shell btw, even innocence. s.a.c. was unnecessary.

what i mean is, it shows a certain ammount of truth, technology changes, trends change...people? the world, no, those things are always the same. also it doesnt pretend that in the year 2015 we will be using laser guns and flying around in jet cars...well, i havent seen the series, but the movie rather...

still, its only a vision. although i too think that its a very intelligent perspective, a precice depiction of the future was and will be always impossible. but such advanced robots in the year 2015? hah, i dont think so. still, i dont know the future, nobody does, and thats my point.

the series wasnt that good, just a standart sci fi criminal series, only with the gits cast. the major never fused with the pm in this alternate universe, it plays very often in bright daylight (and the city and its outskirts are very bright and friendly looking, almost nothing is dark or grim) and batou is often the comic relief character... *sighs* its not a bad series, its just a sacrilege to the original movies.

we have robots that move and kinda think, and smart tank wouldn't be all that hard.

the problem is that then we could end up creating the "skynet" situation.

no matter what, a "smart tank" is never going to exist. i just think about the automatic sniper towers from samsung. im not buying anything from that company again for that.

and about thinking robots, i only have seen robots that could only do stuff they have been programmed to do. thinking robots would actually be required to realise a situation and act on their own, by logically connecting different acts and facts together. i think we are far away from that to happen.

Well the other way is the plastic surgery and stem cell growth parts i.e build a huma sized tail with stem cells and attach like a lost limb..

For which the robotics analogue would be cybernetic implants attached like an advanced prosthesis.

They are getting there with this I agree. After all every year it seems you see more and more complex "Life like animal toys" in stores that are nothing more than plush covered robots for kids. What is to say to take them to the next step and make them anthro and such?

Anthro robots = actually doable. I remember a research team in some other country actually creating human-rabbit hybrids for stem cell research. Unfortunately, we all know stem cell study is bad (*rolls eyes*) so they had to destroy the creatures and throw out any ideas of future testing. IF they would have left the chimeras to grow, they really would have been anthro'd rabbits, but yeah... Creating creatures like that won't EVER be possible due to religion saying how wrong it is to play god and to mix-n-mash critters like that. Even if that was debated out and they were made, the whole "what makes up the soul" would come to play and we all know science can't make one of them up =\

Humans in the now transforming into anthropomorphic creatures is not possible either. Again, the playing God thing will come into what's going on, and we'll never get that far into something like that anyways with how the world (especially america) profits from sick people. I mean, giving someone a body they would like to have? People would say the cosmetic surgery we have today should be good enough... Society is still sorta iffy on people changing genders... To change into a whole new figure and be a different species like that? Nope, not gonna happen.

"Real life furries" will only be robots in suits. We won't ever think about robots evolving into their own sentient being. I mean, look at every movie that has robots like that... By the time robots become that advanced and we realize they will inherit the world once we're gone, it'll be too late (unless things pan out like A.I.: Artificial Intelligence).

another chunk of proof is christianity is holding us back and we should put out its flames before they send us back to the stone age

Putting aside the fact humanity would rather ignore finding cures for cancer and would rather work on various birth controls (for christ sakes, it prevents pregnancy, BE HAPPY WITH THAT!!!) or the many boner pills instead... Yeah, religion is a MAJOR anchor. But what can you do? Christianity is EVERYWHERE and is the loudest when it comes to when things are against "god" or not. *sighs* You'd think religion, a spiritual belief system designed to help guid people and feel they will be rewarded when they are good to other people, would not have such a strong hold on the government and scientific research... You know, as they just DO NOT GO WELL TOGETHER. But alas, that's how it is... Jesus is all and we all must wonder what HE would do. Also, it's important to NOT think of what he he would really do or all the cool peaceful things that he preached in =B

At any rate, though it won't be happening, but if it does, I hope Mystic Mayan Jesus takes out the Christian folk before blowing up the world.

"IF they would have left the chimeras to grow, they really would have been anthro'd rabbits, but yeah..."

Not so. The DNA was entirely human, but the cells were from rabbits. Replace the DNA in a cell and (for the most part) it becomes that of whatever the DNA is for. There would be some differences such as the mitochondria lineage from rabbits still, but in most respects it would act and grow as a normal human cell. The media (or religion, whatever) misrepresented what the actual science behind what was being done was going to actually do. They called the cells animal-human hybrid cells which is technically correct, but it would not have resulted in anthro-rabbits or a freak of nature.

Ahhh, I see... It sounded to me like they were perfect hybrid creatures... Still retarded that religion had to get in the way and ruin the research that was going on =C

That came to mind when I watched Surrogates. They showed two people near the beginning of the movie using heavily modified surrogates. They were still mostly human looking, but had extra eyes and purple skin and stuff. But it wouldn't be long after that you'd see fur and such.

Wouldn't the point of having furries would be to have them have beating hearts? Not hearts of cold and steel D:<

You're right Sore. Nothing can replace Flesh and heart... maybe... if you're controlling that "steel" as a fursuit

...I thought for realistic animatronics :3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtfMIiinJso

Can you imagine the amount of lubrication I'd need to fill my robo-furry with? Why not find a living furry who can go to teh bathroom, and who can wipe herself, etc? >.>

Senseless robots with "pre programmed acts" can't replace thinking and sentient beings (...or partners etc) who has hearts. So anthros should be with beating hearts and with their own wills for life :P
I can imagize robots as "fursuit" and only for fun and entertainment without consciousness.

<.n.< >.n.> <.n.< *cough* SURROGATES! *cough* :P

I saw that movie(I can't believe a movie with Bruce Willis in it actually sucked! D=). While the idea of that is somewhat cool, the cool part is mostly for, say, military benefit. A robot being for civilian use, at the most, would be used for heavy manual labor like a construction vehicle. I'd still prefer genetics due to realism, but if what they say about genetic coding being impossible, I wouldn't be too opposed to the idea of robot furries.

As long as 90% of the world doesn't end up wearing a robot suit because they're a gullible fad chaser, I think it'd be a fun idea to test out, at the least.

While the robot idea would be a wonderful stopping point for the squeemish "GENETICS IS BAD" crowd, I'd honestly prefer it if humanity could get into stem cell research. And suprisingly, from that I've seen, the reason they're putting a halt to it is because it requires the destruction of an embryo. *SUPPOSEDLY* they've found a way to produce stem cells from human skin, though. Might get over that hurdle.

They've found ways of producing stem cells from almost every tissue in the body :P

Not all embryonic stemcell research has stopped. Just in The US, it can be only done from two viable cloned strains, in the US. So its highly restricted and slowed .

Somatic stem cell research is a less ethically turbulent venue. I do recall reading an article about that research. The term used for a cell reverting to a stem cell is called cell plasticity. Its an exciting field to be sure. I do think however that embryonic stemcell research would accelerate the process by which we find the underlying mechanisms to cell programming. Once that was discovered Embryonic research would be minimized.

As for RL furries I don't see this happening ever with genetics. We as a human race have to many other problems to deal with honestly. Think about it humans cant get along on there own, anthropomorphic animals would just create another group to be feared and brutilized. Once humans can get along and all cultures find common ground, I think it might be doable.

"Just in The US, it can be only done from two viable cloned strains, in the US. So its highly restricted and slowed . "

Only the Federal Funded projects. Non-Federally funded projects can use whatever stem cells they want however they are gathered. Granted the Federal Government funds a lot fo projects, but this jsut showed many scientific institutions reasons they should not rely on the Federal Government to fund their projects.

likely happening Easier untill technology improves is gentics.. untill we can like in Ghost in teh shell devlop a "Brain case" that houses teh human brain and interface it to the prostetic body.. it wouldnt be possible. though.. i dont see gentic manipulation happening anytime soon as its an painfull and expensive process to devlop and SO many things can and would go wrong.

Furries in real life wouldn't be as good looking as their artistic counterparts.

You could probably put together a system that would alter sensory inputs to your brain, making everyone look like they're drawn by your favorite artist.

Real life post processing :D

I want cel shade sunglasses X3

We're closer to something like this than most people know. Search YouTube.com for iPhone Augmented Reality to see what I mean.

HA, I hadn't seen this one. An Augmented Reality virtual pet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoZRHLmUKtM

well its been discussed to death on countless other forums - but true

if robots like the ones in I, Robot could be made, then making them anthro would in no way be far off

alternatly, if genetics would be an answer - the 'splicing' like the stuff in Batman future could be an option (if something that simple could be done)

Yes! Splicers from Batman Beyond! Too bad it was made illegal...

still it'd be a fun concept

would make the clothing industry facepalm though - all the dudes who'd splice up a massive horse wang... no pants would ever fit

Also would need holes in da butt for tails, or everyone would have to wear their pants backwards (ref: that Gansta Bugs and Taz shirt).

zipper on both side of the pants! :3

Four legs better than two legs.

"You know what I want to be? An Astronaut. To be able to discover the first new kind of life form...then fuck it. Then everyone would be like 'There he goes... homeboy fucked a martian'".

Cookie to anyone that gets that.

-bang- ow! -bang- ow! -bang- ow! -bang- when's it gonna be my turn? xD

srsly tho, AI isnt that far off, so making stuff look like furries isnt a big deal at all :3

The whole genetics thing is sooooo far off the boat. We haven't even technically mapped the entire human genome yet, there is no way in hell that a genetic option is even going to come up. And even if it were to become a possibility...well, I think that scientists would prolly be more focused on using it to, say, slow the aging process, or something like that instead of something silly like turning people into furries. Now as for robotics, well, really we could already make robotic anthros. Technically we have, if you want to think of things like animatronics. There's not much doubt that it won't be long before we have fairly realistic human robots, the next step after that is creating an AI that is at least human-like, something that can pass something like a turing test under minimal inspection. But we'll never be able to create a near-human AI, imo, just something that pretends. But no one can really guess how long things like these will take. You honestly don't know until it happens. So I guess we just wait and see!

Sounds awesome! Someone should make a robotic anthro ferret!

Or maybe we'll get invaded by martian space vixens, then no one will have to worry about doing any of the work ^^

human + furries in real world = human extinction through being seen as an inferior being

still...better than a nuke taking us all out

kinda pointless if someone wants to be a furrie, right?

I prefer to see anthro characters as art, myths, fantasy, symbolism, roaming freely in each one's imagination, in stories, in comics, or as totem animals. But it's just me.

i dont think the genetic possibilities are realistic at all. i mean, genetics is quite a young science, and everytime i read about it, i mostly read that most parts of our and every genes are not decoded. we still dont know how they can create a living being, and we still dont know how to put together a genome, so it actually works.

at least thats the official version. if there is indeed a way to enhance our health or whatever, there will be big companies all over it. its all about the big profit. or its even worse, thinking about monsanto now.

so the idea with robotics is actually much more promising there. although i personally hope that there will be some sort of matrix aswell. its possible to connect living cells with chips, so it might be possible to create virtual realities someday, that would seem real to us. and then i think it would be only a matter of time for matrix sl or something like that =P with full body avatars.

They've recently created a robot controlled by a human brain cell culture :P

didnt know that, but i heart that there are arm prosthethics, that are controlled by the human brain aswell. that, and helmets, that scan your brainwaves and anable you to control for example the mouse on your desktop just with your thoughts. its still in an early stage though.

Yeah at this one symposium last week they had a helmet where you litterally typed with your mind. Was pretty cool.

yea, now that i think of, i hope such tools will not replace the art of typing, drawing and making music by just thinking about it. it would be a shame when people who actually can use their hands and arms would be suddenly nothing special, because everyone can think up his own music and pictures and so on...

but the people with that skill know how to do the angles much better, most minds can only do so much without training.

unless you have a very detailed photographic imagination.

the technology isnt really out yet and its still in a very early state, so we can only speculate about how it will affect our lifes.

I honestly say to people " I see a day when Ghost In the Shell will be a reality". At SFN I attended a symposium on neuro-prosthetics some interesting reasearch in that field. Including the the promise of a cybernetic eye. :)

you mean one with true picture, not just the dot map one they made a decade ago?

Mecha furs ftw~!

I just want to be Robocop, and steal fried chicken from Korean families.

YO I'M ABOUT TO EAT (|| u]

even a furry android would frighten me! XO

This isn't furry.. THIS IS ANDOROZON ( lol Ken Singshow Has the Answer)

Yeah...I have the same worries about Jurassic Park. What happens when roboraptors glitch?

they fall over and burst into flames :P

Ideally yes, but I just see large fuel cells or lithium ion batteries exploding and propelling metal teeth and claws into the tourists.

Raptor bombs! I gotta write that idea down...

So they'd be like walking laptops then :P

Walking laptops...that can open doors. Of course, the Windows versions can probably use escalators and elevators between crashes...

This is very interesting but what about the people who want to be actual furries? not just cyborgs?

They get nothing :D

XD that'll showem. >.> <.<

Also would depend on a purpose as to why they'd exist in the first place. It seems that robotic furries would serve an entertainment or utility purpose someday. I'd always imagined that genetic furries could serve perhaps a military role, assuming the usefulness of boots on the ground won't degrade in futre years. However with the advent of smart weaponry I see this possibility less and less efficient.

Sooooo I suppose the robotic fur idea could possibly prove more plausible. Guess we'll have to wait and see :3

Ah, is it that your thoughts are inspired by the movie "Surrogates"? Currently we don't have good technology that allows technology to connect with nerves over a long time without nerve damage though there are some experimental technologies that might change that having to do with the new superconductors they're talking about, if they can make a super conductive material that looses no energy to heat then it might be possible.

Actually it was inspired by some fanart of 9 that I saw.

I'd love the day that the technology in the movie "Lawnmower Man" is real where you can put on a suit and feel everything that a simulation feels, including a robot.

Apparently you didn't see the films in hygiene class... (Approved by the Space Pope.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtqGTn7PCBw


You also need to see "Electrogonorrhea the noisy killer..."

Making 'anthrodroids' would simplify a lot of the complex code involved in things we take for granted, like keeping balance. The tail is natually an organ of balance in Nature, and for an anthrodroid, the tail, with the weight artificially kept at the tip, would allow the 'droid's center of gravity to be more easily adjusted, and kept low.

oh very interesting owo

poisonally i'd like to stick with fancey dress and make-up

do not give the robots power, of this i warn thee

I'm all for eyes and a tail. I already know where we can tap into the brain for that, just a matter of waiting on the electronics to be advanced enough.

This is SO Surrogates.

Somehow, I don't think a robotic furry body has the same romanticized appeal that being a real anthro does. =/

Some just want the company of an anthro :P

It seems to be a bit ignoble to take the desire to be a furry, which is often closely associated with nature, and pervert it with an industrial heart. While some may be satisfied, I know that I do not want to live in or control the shell of an animal; I want to be an animal.

you would still take what you can get though, right?

I can say for certain I would try it, assuming the process is reversible. If it wasn't, I am not sure if I still would or not.

A naturalized (gene therapy) process I would most certainly accept.

so it's like Chobits with furries? I could go for that.

"OH baby...I'm so close..."
"INITIATING VAGINAL HATCH CLOSE"
"Wait what?! NO! Don't close the Hatch! I'm still insi-"
*SNAP*

priceless.

Robotics would also completely avoid any problems with religious groups who might morally object to genetic engineering whether it's making animals more human or humans more animal.

I'd personally like to be a furry myself, otherwise I am just a shell of sorts.

can we mate with them?

hell japan already has robotic teachers in their classrooms and a robot that can actually mimic emotions on its synth-skin face

Amusing, as over when I went to the second FC (in whatever begotten year that was) I was designing a fursuit. Unfortunately, my mind is usually wrapped around robotics and ways to make things 'more realistic' through creative design. So my first fursuit that I designed was a simulacrum, it was essentially a remotely controlled robot. I got through it far enough to have basic systems design, support structures, and a sketch of the control system.

As technology has improved, I am fairly certain I could create this anthro, and as commented before, I did have the oddest of ideas involving giving it a fleshlight as a joke :) I have NOOO idea how that would translate to the sensation suit properly...

But yes, it is an option, there are those like me that have been dreaming and doodling to try and make it happen... downside? A 2+ Million Dollar fursuit? That probably isn't going to happen, and imagine the horrors of A) Trying to use the elevator, B) battery/power source limitations and C) Field Repairs. Not to mention if the transmit lag was too long, the pressure feedback wouldn't hit right away, and you could accidentally break doors, crush people, etc.

... or maybe I shouldn't design it around aluminum alloys and a hybrid hydraulic/pnuematic system... Yeah. Maybe plastics, electric servos, and hydraulics for main body support only...

I should get out more. >.<