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I don't care about Russia.
3 years ago
My Politics and Social views are ideas that I believe work. If something does not work I call it out.
I care about Canadians who had a protest that was actually festive were attacked by a group of state thugs.
If you actually see me in person you would notice I have a tan.
Even after 22 years of night shift I have a tan.
That is the Native American blood in me.
I am starting to realize that non-whites are actually the most racist mother fuckers on the planet.
Do you hate whites?
Go unscrew every light bulb you have for a week then tell me how much you hate white people.
People have been tearing this country apart for a decade are now saying White people have to fight in a war for a country that teaches hatred towards them.
Teaching masculinity is toxic.
Reap what you sow!
If you actually see me in person you would notice I have a tan.
Even after 22 years of night shift I have a tan.
That is the Native American blood in me.
I am starting to realize that non-whites are actually the most racist mother fuckers on the planet.
Do you hate whites?
Go unscrew every light bulb you have for a week then tell me how much you hate white people.
People have been tearing this country apart for a decade are now saying White people have to fight in a war for a country that teaches hatred towards them.
Teaching masculinity is toxic.
Reap what you sow!
guess that shows what kind of priorities you have...
people are getting killed and dying in an unprovoked invasion of the Ukraine and you care more about a bunch of karen truckers who don't wanna wear masks or get a vaccine than you care about people actually losing their homes, getting displaced, dying or getting killed because of an unprovoked and unjust war...
I've watched you turn into a selfish prick over the past few years but this is a new low, even for you
i got some friends in the Ukraine, fellow furries that are here on FA together with you and me and whose well being i now worry for
nevermind all those russians who got themselves arrested for protesting against the war in a brutal suppression of freedom of speech that Putin's russia is infamous for
you should be ashamed of how selfish you are
you're a disgrace
so what other option is there?
Putin isn't going to stop if you ask him nicely and considering how blatantly he lied to the world in the last week, he can't be trusted to honor his word either.
Those Canadians are decent hard working people and don't deserve a black faced communist douche bag like Trudeau.
so don't go around pretending like you actually care about freedom 'cause you don't. you're just using the word "freedom" as an excuse to be selfish at the expense of others.
Suck it up!
what the fuck is wrong with you?
have you no shame?
Call everyone a racist!
you know what?
all the bad shit and hardships that happen in your life?
like constantly living on the edge of poverty, barely scraping by, not being able to fulfill your dream of drawing a comic 'cause you got to slave away for hours just to get your bills paid and survive?
you deserve all of that
but that doesn't mean I support evil.
Parasites get on as many government programs as they can using more claims of disability than anyone can disprove.
it was done with plenty of anesthetic, so I only saw the stump when it was done. Now I have a prosthetic leg. I can hobble around on it quite well. Look at the art I have had done on my page. the pictures there are pretty
I went through twenty years of anxiety and depression. Lived pretty much hand to mouth.
I sympathize with your difficulties but hating decent Canadians is foolish!
Typical right wing chud, go back to drinking and drawing sub par art.
Real people are dying in an entirely predicted and warned 2 years ago would happen event. Remember, people voted for this even if they were ignorant in doing so.
So the real question is, what the fuck is wrong with you? Why didn't you care about the Ukraine, and Afghanistan, or Taiwan? Was Twitter comments really that important to you? These are real people that are and going to die. Have you no shame?
That said the Ukraine needs NLAWs, FIM-92s and UAVs. And a LOT of them. Make the russkies be afraid to fly below 2k and above 2k LOL
THe intel I get from my buddies is glorious. Of course the russkies are pushing, but they too get their shit pushed in. They even completely botched an airborne operation and got shredded to pieces. BADLY.
that being said
i have heard about the Ghost of Kyiv
Brandon really showed his incompetence with the Afghanistan fiasco and now is probably again wondering who did shit in his pants.
yep, there's definitely no denying that you're an american conservative...
You and me are probably the same species of loser I just don’t hate good people.
But yes, I blame the Potato for being utterly incompetent and corrupt. Looks like the idiots shared intel with the chincoms which handed it over to the soviets ( have you seen the T-80Us sporting soviet flags? ) to use against ukraine.
You're goddamn right I am blaming potato and the dumbocrats for having ALL the info that this would happen and still did not help them out with the esentials.
Also who told Trump 3 years ago that the cold war was over and there was no need to waste money for defence? Wasn't that the Germans who leeched on the US for their own defence since the early 90's.
You should kiss some polish shoes for not being as dumbfucked as the germans are.
Europe threw them under the bus. That's a european tradition: to kiss some dictators butt.
I see that you have absolutely no idea about european politics whats not surprising, as conservative americans barely look whats happening outside of their continent and in most cases not even outside of their own borders.
You do know stuff about weapons though, but then again, obviously not enough to realize that a couple of fancy little weapons might have delayed the inevitable for a day at best and actually not even that... do you even know the difference between the military budget of russia and the ukraine?
I agree that the helmet gesture was useless but in the end it wouldn't have made a difference. And people were still hoping for a peaceful solution, as this was the only thing that could have prevented the suffering in the ukraine.
Actually I would LOVE the Polish giving the Germans a little bit of payback for 1939, Germany has been a backstabbing traitor to NATO for years and Schoeder (SPD) is a POS sellout of the highest order.
Don't think they could pull it thru?
https://www.spiegel.de/internationa.....5-39e5790b29b2
150 Soldiers and 12 Boxer armored patrol vehicles? That's the last ditch effort of the once proud Bundeswehr? You gotta be kidding me. Germany deserves ALL it gets.
There will be no peaceful solution, not with a madman like Putin and Xi waiting for his turn. Denying them air superority is crucical, so yes. A "few" weapons would make a HUGE difference. It shows that YOU have NO clue about modern warfare.
Wow...
I have no idea how the idea of Poland attacking Germany suddenly got into your head, nor do I understand how the sight of russian tanks in any non-russian town today could bring any decent person joy, but yeah, this just proves my point in one of my earlier posts: Your mindset is absolutely alien to normal people.
I seriously hope for your own sake that it was just some sort of bad joke, because wishing war and destruction to any innocents is definitely something a psychiatrist should look into...
I'm out of this discussion, you won.
A few more weapons would have made a difference and would have kept the countless enemy soldiers out of the country. Because I guess Putin would have probably no weapons to counter this...
A little bit late but at least HE did realize that there is no peaceful solution. I guess I was not so wrong after all, eh?
Now give them the means for effective counterartillery, battlefield observation and secure communication share all the information gathered by the Rivet Joints flying around there and the russians will have a BAD day.
Bunch of good UAVs would be great too, the turks did give azeris some which they used to spank the russians and rmenians pretty good with.
if you truly believe however that the invasion could have been prevented with just a few more weapons, then you are incredibly naive because a few weapons wouldn't have changed the numerical advantage of russian troops or changed the massive destruction of crucial military equipment in the surprise night attack that the russians opened with.
probably the only thing that could have prevented this would have been a NATO presence since attacking one NATO members would result in attack all NATO members, however the Ukraine is not a NATO member. which is probably why Putin is being so brazen in his attack.
nevermind the whole thing of Putin essentially faking a willingness for a diplomatic solution and pretty much deceiving everybody with it...
you seem to be so focused on your own personal vendetta that you seem to either forget or ignore a lot of things. i don't know why you're taking this so personal.
I do not believe you when you say that you care about the suffering of the Ukrainian people because you made it quite clear that you are more interested in blaming your personal enemies like Biden, the Democrats and everyone else than the actual root of the problem.
I won't waste more of my time on you.
And to be fair; The truckers didn't seem vioent, sure you can say their disagreement on the mandates was silly, but at least they were peaceful. When you have people go out of there way to just beat them, freeze there accounts and arrest anyone for the crime of simply agreeing with them..and then turn around and talk about freedom, that's the weird part about all of this.
Yes I'm sure Russia is going to HURT from not sanctioning those! xD
They're holding back a bit on some of the banking and oil sanctions as well because Europe is still dependent on Russian oil and they need to transition to other sources. A certain amount of this whole thing is likely about oil too, because the US stands to make money by supplying natural gas in particular. Biden was also recently communicating with Qatar in an effort to fortify Europe's oil supply from there.
To further complicate this, oil prices have been driven up,which is to Russia's advantage.
And, as usual, any sanctions are much more likely to hurt everyone at the bottom, including us, than the people at the top.
I haven't heard any discussion of salt, but I would suspect that that's small potatoes compared to oil, banking, etc.
And don't make the mistake of attributing every move made by the government to Biden. He's just one piece of it. A lot of it is various advisors as well as ongoing policies and ways of dealing with things.
Yes, umm... you do understand that Biden has effectively failed to uphold our end of the bargain with the Ukraine as (we will defend you if you dismantle your nuclear weapons) and now we aren't. He didn't follow the deals made in Afghanistan either. Taiwan is next.
The real danger is how this is encouraging a nuclear arms race because, "Well if the west isn't going to help us" or "the US isn't going to help us." You do understand that right?
This puts the idea of worrying about an arms race on the back burner at the moment. We should have been working towards total denuclearization a long time ago, including the decommissioning of all nuclear power plants, which are also a particular hazard in the current war.
And the US is the one who hasn't been willing to renew or make new nuclear arms deals in the last few years, as well as having embarked on a multi-trillion dollar program to upgrade and expand our nuclear arsenal.
And that's not even to mention Trump's ridiculous "Space Force", which the current administration seems to be perfectly happy to carry forward, which has plans to put nukes in space. -Talk about encouraging an insane arms race!
Odd reasoning for putting the threat of Nuclear war on the back burner. We already have them, we aren't the ones that would race for them. o_O any country threatened would certainly be encouraged, and I'm not talking about just the ones directly mentioned earlier in our conversation. O_o
WW2 Era Nuclear Power plants for sure, they were designed to produce weapons, lol. Nuclear Power itself is not nearly as dirty as people think in modern times but that's a different conversation.
The US was unwilling, you don't remember when the Obama Administration gave Russia all that Plutonium? Sounds like a deal to me. :D honestly though, it's a good dream to get rid of Nuclear weapons. Tell that countries other than the US but HEY!
Getting rid of all the nuclear warheads in trade for protection from the West worked out great for the Ukraine!
Wait you are against Space Force? why? o_O You have any idea what's going on with Satellites of war, or their potential?? You're against Nuclear Weapons but not Satellite weapons... o_O
Sorry, we're starting to jump onto too many topics and I honestly don't have the time to explain everything on them all. We'll just have to agree to disagree on our assessments of the situation. ^_^ It's been nice having a calm, adult conversation with someone though! *Hugs*
Feel free to take the last word in it. :)
And I meant that due to the current conflict and the immediate risk of war that nuclear conflict takes precedence over the ongoing or potential arms race.
Nuclear power is becoming ever more obsolete. The cost of planning, building, maintaining, and running nuclear plants is far beyond the costs of green alternatives at this point, and that doesn't even take into account their inherent risks, as well as the expense and environmental hazards of the mining, refining, and transport of the uranium and the containment, storage and disposal of the waste.
I think it's worth continued study of the potential use of fission and fusion energy, but we're a LONG way off from it really being safe and economical on any practical scale.
See my comment below regarding Space Force.
As far as I know there aren't any real war satellites yet, and it's in the best interest of China, Russia, and the US, as well as everyone else on our precious tiny blue orb to allow them to ever become a reality.
And yes, this discussion did mushroom, didn't it? These issues are complicated and interconnected.
And I'm always down for a good civil discussion/argument/catfight! Peace ♡
Uhhh what?
You think? Nuclear energy is the safeist, most clean energy we as Humans have ever developed! but people THINK it isn't....
"As far as I know there aren't any real war satellites yet," lol
wait you're serious about space force.... xD
sorry I think you're trolling me at this point. o_o
Chernobyl and Fukushima are real things. They aren't even cleaned up yet, and the contamination and contaminated material from them will last for thousands of years. We don't even have any good way to deal with the waste, and the expense of dealing with the damage is astronomical. The cost in lives from cancer due to these disasters makes them not worth it in itself.
Working with these highly radioactive isotopes poisons land and destroys lives. Look up Hanford, for instance. Every little bit of this stuff released into the atmosphere adds to the global cancer rate. And it doesn't go away for thousands of years.
And what I said in the previous post about the expense and long term costs of nuclear energy relative to green energy are facts that speak for themselves. That doesn't even count the long lasting environmental damage from the mining of the uranium.
And if we keep using the present reactors we have, you can just bet those won't be the last disasters.
Show me the existing war satellites, please. The last thing we need to do is start a new arms race in space. Do you really think the world needs that kind of threat literally hanging over it? It's just madness. Nothing good can come of that. We have much better things to do with our money. We spend way too much on the "defense" budget as it is. The only people who get anything out of all that crap are the military industrial complex. We seriously need to be spending our treasure on things that help people, not blow them up.
And are you trolling me by accusing me of being a troll...?
Seems to me Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 which (checks calendar) oh right, Biden was VP. How many nations did Russia invade under DT? (checks calendar) Oh right, NONE.
Also, can you cite a source on us upgrading our nuclear weapons by trillions of dollars under the Trump administration? That's how much the democrats have added for COVID relief in the last year. I think the accountants would have noticed the upcharge (or maybe it's just how much Nancy Pelosi buys in ice cream.)
I was talking about Space Force starting under Trump. The upgrade of our nukes started under Obama.
And I don't personally see any connection between who the US president was and when Russia's various meddlings in Ukraine took place. Although we did back a coup against the democratically elected government of Ukraine in 2014. That also happens to be where Putin's weird allusions to Nazis probably come from.
The reason a space branch of the military didn't exist before was because of misguided beliefs that space could somehow be peaceful whilst the First Cold War smoldered down on Earth. But now it would be foolish to believe that either Russia or the illegitimate communist government in Beijing would follow the rules of keeping space de-weaponized. Turns out Star Trek is just a TV show. We might as well keep the edge on our proven enemies.
...and you still haven't cited a source on our "trillion" dollar boost to nuclear weapons expenses.
The treasure and efforts of the US, China, and Russia could all be put to much better use, and it would be in everyone's best interest.
Most of our already bloated and ever growing military budget could be put to much better uses here on Earth and at home.
And I don't need to do your homework for you, the data on our nuke upgrades is commonly available info. And if I recall correctly, the budget for these upgrades is more like two trillion or so, and we all know how government spending tends to go.
Could the reason actually be that we are the ones that don't wish to be held to these agreements?
Need I remind you that our government is the one behind what is by extreme factors the most powerful military in the world, dwarfing that of Russia and China. And that our government has sponsored death, destruction and underhanded political shenanigans beyond what either of those countries could even imagine, let alone anything that either of them have done?
Second sentence is just that.
Third sentence is a good example of whataboutism. I hope the Ukraine gets all the ATGM and MANPADs they need and wreck havoc on the russian army.
That would definitely cause more troubles than an invasion of any country!!
Took you guys almost a month 30.000 dead Iraqis and massive non-combat-zone infrustructure damage just to take Baghdad.
It took Russia not even a whole week to reach Kiev with 130 dead Ukrainians, with a combatant that is far superior to Iraq.
Do you have a proposition for it?
i dunno man, a more realistic approach would be to raise the iron curtain again. close the borders and isolate russia from the rest of the world just like we're doing with North Korea. the UK have already started with this, russian airlines are no longer allowed to enter and operate within UK airspace. I'd say the rest of the western world should follow suit and extend this to russian ships of any kind as well and pretty much everything that is russian. nothing goes in or out. isolate and cut it off from the rest of the world completely.
one thing is for sure: you can't trust a single word the guy says 'cause he lied and deceived the rest of the world and pretty much betrayed every piece of trust that was put into him.
he made it very clear that war and the threat of war are the only languages he understands so total isolation and raising the iron curtain seems the only non-war action possible, at this point.
hell, you saw what he did to his own people when they took to the streets and dared to voice their opinion "no war please"...
You guys are lucky that Poland is between you and the hordes. I would drink a cold coke watching them steamroll all over you and your 6 combat ready Typhoons.
I guess waving a gay flag wasn’t as intimidating as they thought.
I am not saying there is anything wrong with gay people in the service. If you keep projecting weakness of course the enemy will attack.
This whole cultural shift attacking masculinity is certainly going to be noticed by China and Russia.
I will be blunt:
it's incredibly stupid to try and make the argument that rainbow flags and the acceptance of gay people in the military service is responsible for the russian attack on the Ukraine, especially since the ukrainian military isn't as openly supportive of the LGBT as service members as the US military seems to be. to further on try and argue that this could be perceived as a sign of weakness, especially considering that the US military is the most powerful in the world in regards to numbers, logistics, weaponry and technology, is equally stupid.
nevermind the whole nonsense about this somehow being an attack of masculinity which is so incredibly stupid that I won't even entertain it any further.
it wasn't an attack on masculinity when women were allowed to vote, work and serve in the military and its not an attack on masculinity for the same thing to be true to gay and trans people.
you're either incredibly stupid or incredibly insecure about your own masculinity to make such an argument.
if it were up to you, kids wouldn't get taught sex ed, including that gays and trans people exist, until they're 30
all you ever did, all you ever do, is complain.
so yes, i actually do believe that.
just out of curiosity:
have you ever actually talked to a gay or trans person?
why does this offend you so much?
do you have anything that can proof of what you're saying?
'cause when i googled, the things i found from sources like theguardian and so on made it seem more like kids were given more freedom to explore themselves and who they want to be, which isn't a bad thing.
Which in virginia is one of the very things that was going on during their most recent election. The complaints about these books being shown to third graders is actually one of the things that was being used as 'proof they wanna burn books' during the election to try to hamper their new governor during it.
In that regard my opinion is this: i could understand the books being shown to people even at the age of sixteen. I don't think it should be shown to a kid so young as to not even have had puberty yet.
The problem with googling this stuff at this point is it's already been proven google has a political bias. They don't want things to show up that harm their personal takes. it makes this other stuff hard to find without deeper searching, and this also means groups who show it are often viewed more as 'illegitimate' because of it.
If you want to claim Project Veritas is illegitimate though, they have had multiple people claim as such and each of them has been forced to retract their claims after which. Not to mention that before their political bias started being shown during 2016, people trusted them due to the left-leaning content they were posting.
i got taught sex ed when i was about 11 or 12 and that's fairly standard at least in my part in germany. i think that's a good age to teach these kind of things 'cause teenagers start being sexually active very early. most of them by themselves but some, well... i had a classmate who became a young mother at the age of... 15 or 16, i think it was.
my memory is a bit fuzzy 'cause this was about 20/21 years ago.
Hannah Tubbs is a person in california who proclaims themselves to be transgender. They have even admitted to using being a transgender to escape from any real consequences for it. They gloated about it so blatantly infact that the california law are currently trying to figure out if there's a way to stop them from getting away with what equates to 'public service'. They even laughed at the fact they don't even have to sign up as a sexual predator, even though they admitted to assaulting a ten year old girl.
The fear i have is if the stuff is taught to early, people are going to end up like that person. That person shouldn't represent transgenders, nor should it be a problem people have to deal with.
This is why i'd cautiously put the information higher than around the 11 or 12 age group. I can admit i might be being too cautious at 16, i'm not just sure 11 is a good are to go with though.
Europe gave russia the money to go to war with.
si vis pacem para bellum is a thing. And the arrogant europeans ignored 5000 years of history and now get a hard lession.
How do you like your SIX combat ready Typhoons? Do you regret now that the germans refused to upgrade their military and told Trump to fvk off when re told him to do their part? Told the US to leave europe because they are not wanted anymore? Talked about dissolving NATO? Pepperidge Farm members!
And now you folks come over like little kids crying for Uncle Sam to protect you. GTFO
I hope putler cuts off the gas. That will be fun to watch and another "I TOLD YOU SO, WHY DIDN'T YOU LISTEN" moment.
You made your bed, now lie in it. It just breaks my heart that the poor people of Ukraine are uffering because of this.
This Ukraine situation will make the energy crisis even more prominent, impoverizing the middle class even more, a straight road ahead and victory for Great Reset.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I72.....9Vw&t=908s
I hate what Russia is doing too, but I am not willing to plunge the planet into a nuclear armed WWIII for it.
If you want info go to 4chan.
that being said, I am well aware of the Ghost of Kyiv and other things. the ukrainians are putting up a damn good fight.
It would kind of confirm that 4chan would be correct in the idea it isn't as easy. All around i'd say this little bit of emergency decree by putin is a good sign. It indicates he's not as strong as he is trying to show himself as.
NATO then has to go Article 5 and that's a toe to toe with the roooskies.
And he BADLY lusts after those 3 to bring them back into his little Reich.
I sometimes try to understand the mindset or the priorities of people like Alex and his followers, often thinking "Yeah, well, Americans probably think different about things." but after some posts like this one I can't help but think that their mindset is so alien to me as if they are from a completely different galaxy...
Or is it just that people getting called names is more horrible than people getting killed in an unnecessary war? I mean... everybody needs priorities, right?
I'm not perfect, i got my fair share of flaws with this one apparently being one and if you want to give me shit for that, feel free to do so.
We're all susceptible to it but few will admit to it.
I'm minded of that Lone Ranger joke. "What you mean WE, honky muthafucka?"
"You go to Hell!"
- Bill Cosby, noting what happened when Tonto went alone to town
"Code of Conduct, Section 2.6 Do not engage in malicious content."
Whoever gave you the strike should watch some of those documentaries of child slavery on that continent.
But alas... the truth is against community standards.
If the German public at the time, in regards to the Jewish folks, kept their objectivity instead of nodding as the Nazis pointed the finger at them as why their economy was shit (we all know it was from them losing WW1...hard... coupled with the Spanish Flu plague that also happened during that time and killed off a lot of people) but they were easily swayed and 6 million+ people are now ashes in Germany as a result. We're seeing the same energy from people all over social media saying what to do to "the unvaxxed" and it's eerily similar to what the Germans were nodding in approval of back then. I mean ffs a native woman was trampled by a cop on ahorse at the Ottawa protest and these far-lefty sort were blaming her! I mean wtf... she wasn't rioting, she wasn't there committing arson. She was there supporting what the whole convoy was backing: an end to these absurd mandates in Canada.
That's the hypocrisy there though with these radical sort that irks me. It's all "listen to minorities!" until a minority is saying something they don't approve of.. as though "BIPOCs" are their own personal constituency to use at whim.
Looking back I can't believe I used to be one of those sort.
I would only hope some serious patching up is made in order to deal with this crap.
If anything though, the only reason to fight now would be simply survival.
They have as much crazy in them as the far-right and they are in sheer denial over it. A neo-nazi is at least honest about it. That's the problem when you think too much with your heart and not your head. You lose objectivity and those emotions get the better of you. No doubt you have observed this in so-called Progressives who in reality have become the very antithesis to what a liberal actually is.
I'm on the side of keeping our countries out of yet another war for someone else's security. The harsh reality is Ukraine isn't all that important on the global stage and they are not worth potentially starting WW3 for. It's a territorial dispute, not a genocide.
On the note of the far-left, I agree. I get they're wanting to be concerned for someone else...but they didn't exactly show that when they went out of there way toa ctually demonize an entire demographic over a few really rotten apples. I think they should look at themselves first before they go thinking they're entitled to dictate anyone.
If the situation were reversed we'd no doubt take that is a threat to our security so I can't really blame him for taking action against it. But there isn't currently a coalition of nations against us that have organized in the manner NATO has. The threat has only really been from terrorist cells yet we've invaded over a dozen countries without a UN security council resolution beforehand and without sanctions applied against us for technically violating international law. I'm fairly certain Putin isn't too pleased with the double standard especially when Russia is constantly having sanctions applied to it while we freely violate the law without the same happening to us. However, there's a lot of folks itching to deal "the west" a bloody nose as well as far as this mess is concerned I feel we need to tread very carefully in how this is handled and large part of why I want us uninvolved this time around.
That said though yeah I'm more interested in resolving issues here in our house. The US has been involved in too many of other people's fights since the end of WW2 and obviously we aren't very good at it given the end results. US foreign policy seems to be wildly unpopular outside of the US until they want our military for their defense of course. We pay in blood and money to act as world police when it's not really our place to do so.
It's just interesting how these far-left sort actually share my mindset on this but want us to be involved as long as it's against people they hate, like the Russian government. Their hate of Russia didn't even become a thing until Putin and his administration went against the LGBT community. After that they began doing what Republicans had been doing: painting Russia as some sort of boogeyman out to get ya. Mind you I'm not saying Putin is some saint or anything but it's the fact that these folks really only hate the man because he dared to go against the LGBT. They can't view the situation objectively and this is a problem that plagues extremists like far-left Progressives and actual far-right wingers where it's their way and their way alone. The rest of us are here in the middle of that absurd tug of war because neither side really listens to reason.
They think too much with their hearts, not enough with their minds which leads to the lack of objectivity and a more reactive thought process on the matter. The last thing we need in a situation like this are people with a reactive thought process fanning the flames of war and making an already tense situation worse because in reality they want a conflict with Russia that leads to Putin being ousted or "swinging from a tree" as some on Twitter have actually said. I'm certainly not interested in starting WW3 because Putin isn't a Progressive leader pushing Western values. It's not worth the price we'll all pay for that.
That's more or less my take on the situation there anyway. But to me personally the threat of social justice tyrants having power like we've observed in Canada alone recently is more of an immediate concern. They are the very antithesis of what liberty is, ironically and honestly have no place on lecturing people like Putin on how to behave given the methods that have been employed against those who do not kowtow to their line of thinking 100%. They fail to realize that both the Communists and Nazis/Fascists were one in the same in their methods and that doing the wrong thing for the right reasons is still wrong.
Your right about that.
the People's Convoy will be passing through my state in a few days and i plan to be one of the people on an overpass giving them a hero's salute as they go by, i just hope they aren't driving into a trap once they get to Washington DC
Loosely translated, it can mean you need to focus on your own problems before you blindly help others. Or that The very fact that we can see faults in others that typically reflects ourselves having those very faults. There is in fact, a saying about this, that "it takes one to know one."
Too many think they know whats "best" for everyone around them, while also admitting they are emotional and psychological wreaks.
The left wing on abortion: my body, my choice.
The right wing on abortion: Jail the doctors, ban abortion outright.
The left wing on vaccination: remove the 'antivaxxers" from society. Fuck your feelings, take the jab.
The right wing on vaccination: my body, my choice.
On porn
The left wing: porn is free speech
The right wing: porn is not free speech
Feels like I'm surrounded by authoritarians honestly.
*so long as it's porn i like"
for both sides. I've seen right-wingers claiming porn is free speech for one reason or another, while left-wingers are claming it needs to be banned, and i've seen left-wingers claiming porn is free speech for different reasons, while the right-wingers are claiming it needs to be banned. Porn is one of those "it's okay but only if i like it" hypocrisies
But yeah no you're absolutely right as well that either side will make exceptions for the stuff they like.
If I don't like a certain thing, I don't give it any attention, or (in the case of movies,tv, etc.) my money.
I'm not a fan of censorship either. I may dislike some things that even I find disgusting or in poor taste, but I'd never censor it.
Really that is it, we are learning that a disturbing number of our fellow Americans have some real authoritarian tendencies.
The irony of all this though is the same people affected by this in regards to COVID are the same people who, like me, called out the same vile tactic being by religious zealots to control a population through fear. "Don't do this, you'll go to hell. Don't associate with the unclean... you'll be damned along with them" kind of crap.
Fear is a powerful, powerful weapon and it appears those in the sciences as well as government (regardless of party) can use it just as effectively as those religious zealots have. They all see it as warranted due to some greater good. It's done a great job at fracturing us from one another, that's for sure. But I will not be coerced into taking an action I don't agree with to make someone else feel better. Some people need to accept uncomfortable truths and the harsh realities of the world and learn to cope with them accordingly. As of late this problem has been most prevalent among the left wing from my point of view. I blame in part New Age parenting tactics. It didn't teach them to accept failure or be told no when they needed to be told no. That they would be rewarded for simply existing or doing their job.
My own mom tried that with my youngest brother. Suffice to say he did not grow up to be a good person because he felt entitled to whatever he wanted. If he didn't get his way he was 'living a bad life' and lashed out accordingly. Dude is a master at manipulation, probably why he became a car salesman.
This is the real truth behind an old philospher's statement about slavery. If i remember right, it was plato, who stated there were two types of man(humanity) on the planet, one who wished to rule and those who wished to be ruled (usually used as a justification for slavery by most).
If we look at religion though, a religious doctrine rules a person's actions, if they choose to let it. Some people are just fine without a religious doctrine. This lines up with the idea that some people want to be ruled, and some want to rule.
To be clear though, i don't think "religion in the answer". It's more just a section that only religion is ever used to fix, the answer would be to recognize it and try to fix it with a more beneficial methodology that isn't as easy to corrupt.
It's not a coincidence that as religion started to get attacked more fervently (most religions, not singling a singular one out) in the USSR, in Germany, in China, in Canada, in America, that more authoritarians started to show up.
HOWEVER just as the KKK, ISIS, Al-Qaeda, corrupted priests, etc have done; religIon has been misued as a weapon or tool by some to justify genocide, hatred, and other things. In a lot of these cases, it isn't the religion itself, but the people who seek to abuse it for their own gain.
This I think led to the general viewpoint about religion being seemingly unnesscecary, and for those growing up under uptight parents who practiced these religions anger at said religion as opposed to the ones who simply used it to do them harm.
Now this brings us to today, I honestly figured science couldn't be used in this same manner, because it's supposed to be concrete and give the facts. However sense w elive in a world of information overload, and in an era such as this, even science can be weaponized to justify heinous actions.
It's actually necissary for new things to flourish. An institution becoming corrupt can be cause for disappointment, but i would view it as an opportunity for a new institution to be born, fresh without the corruption, and eventually it will be replaced with a new one.
Religion is weirdly fitting to show us how to stave off the corruption (while itself currently being diseased with the same corruption). Multiple times throughout history, religions have been shown to be corrupt, then they go through a reformation period, where ideals within the religion shift and change. After which, for a time it's no longer corrupt and usually grows in popularity.
Science is currently corrupt, not because it's not doing it's job, but instead because the corrupt within it have tried to turn it into a religion, the weaponization itself is proof of the corruption and same as has happened multiple times, after hardships are caused by it eventually people will preen the rotting parts away and renew science.
They're ostracized, blackballed or otherwise chastised. That's not how the scientific method works.
This article sums it up nicely ( https://www.spectator.co.uk/article.....the-scientists ) as noted in there by the fact the vast majority of those in STEM tend to be left wing and conveniently the peer review process almost always tilts their way which suggests to me confirmation bias is a very real problem here due to the fact so many of them in the field are ideologically driven.
I really hope we can pull this cancer out of STEM sooner rather than later because there are decisions being made by these people that are causing very realm harm to people and all so they can use science to white knight. It's just creepy how similar it is to the corruption within religion that seeks to impose their will onto "non-believers"
Ask yourself why does this asshole get to decide “The Great Reset!?”
I mean hell even I think Trudeau kinda of acted like a dictator to an extent. If the truckers were bruning down buisnesses or looting or the shit that happened in portland, sure I'd get it, but even then. just yeesh.
What I found even worse is, even after pulling that move, he had to go on and talk about preserving freedom and democracy, like...really? after what he just did? I honestly don't think he has any room to talk.
As for Alex's point; He's basically saying some white folks who aren't racist have been outright accused of racism for the crime of simply having different opinion different issues. Or even something as minimal as being white themselves which is honestly as awful as the shit black folks went through in the 50s and 60s.
So after that I wouldn't blame those who feel like that.
Honestly the crazies on the left give me the same vibes that the right wing crazies did years ago.
There's no denying that white people, in the US especially, treated non-whites as complete trash. I know. My grandfather was black and chased down by the KKK while he, my mom and grandma were living in Texas. He was a member of the US air force and died as a trucker. So yeah I've heard about the experiences yet he married a white woman form England. Go figure. He was quite clear that the problem wasn't all white folks. He didn't let the bad ones jade him into hating all whites or seeing all whites as oppressors the way ANTIFA/BLM folks tend to do. What's also interesting is they're labeling anyone to the left of Karl Marx as a Nazi.
The right wingers as early as back as the early 2000's were pretty crazy but somewhere around 2008-2009 when social media became mainstream it's like a good portion of the left just took the bullet train to crazytown. I was on that train up until late 2016 even as an early critic of Trump the hypocrisy of the Progressives was becoming more and more apparent not to mention their thirst for power. The right had lost the culture war so the left appeared to be drunk from the power of recent victories.
I'll straight up tell you I'm not a fan of ANTIFA or BLM. I literally have to conceal carry a weapon anytime I'm having to work in Minneapolis because of the very real damage those groups have done. However, the right to peacefully protest definitely needs to be protected even for my opposition. That's what makes us different from places like Russia where that right is not guaranteed.
Definitely no longer guaranteed in Canada if you aren't marching for Progressive causes. They'll just call it an emergency and bring out the militarized police while the far-lefties loot and burn down buildings and they call it "mostly peaceful" protests and dismiss the riots as "frustration." I don't think these Progressive sort realize that they've become the very extremists they profess to be against. Well no.. they kinda do, they're just ok with it cuz to them it's for a good cause.
That's why many of us out there who are more classically liberal don't back them much these days. History has taught us the importance of free speech, even for those of whom we vehemently disagree with.
I've always been and still am; that the child does not own the sins of the parent. If that was the case, EVERY race should be damned as far back as when the first human killed another.
I also don't believe in the ideology of holding an entire group responsible for another, the same unfortunate issue that alot of the far left folks are using.
There may come a time when those folks will have to face the crap they did, and just as it would be today, the ones who didn't go out of there way to be "revenge racist" will always innocent as they have done no wrong, vs the ones who have, when it is there turn to answer for their sins.
I would only hope, that there are cooler heads that be harsh enough to make them not repeat their nastiness, but not too harsh that the cycle starts over again.
Maybe she should have complied~
Oh right. Those were "mostly peaceful." Forgot about that.
Their report states that more than 2,400 locations reported peaceful protests, while fewer than 220 reported “violent demonstrations.” The authors define violent demonstrations as including “acts targeting other individuals, property, businesses, other rioting groups or armed actors.” Their definition includes anything from “fighting back against police” to vandalism, property destruction looting, road-blocking using barricades, burning tires or other materials. In cities where protests did turn violent—these demonstrations are “largely confined to specific blocks,” the report says.
https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/de.....r-summer-2020/
we both know that you never bothered to do some actual research about this because you don't care about the truth or the reality.
lol
I'd say its funny but its just sad XD
Their report states that more than 2,400 locations reported peaceful protests, while fewer than 220 reported “violent demonstrations.” The authors define violent demonstrations as including “acts targeting other individuals, property, businesses, other rioting groups or armed actors.” Their definition includes anything from “fighting back against police” to vandalism, property destruction looting, road-blocking using barricades, burning tires or other materials. In cities where protests did turn violent—these demonstrations are “largely confined to specific blocks,” the report says.
https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/de.....r-summer-2020/
But a woman??!!
Seriously!??
The lady who was shot was actually next to a armed cop and he didn’t see her as a threat.
I am seeing a lot of violence done to women and I suspect there is some real hatred in some men.
i am awe at the mental gymnastics you're doing to justify the dead woman's actions and I'm honestly curious if you'd try to argue the same way the next time someone gets shot for trying to break into a military base...
there's this thing called "Suicide Bombing" and you might wanna look that up... you'd be surprised how easy it is to conceal a weapon from a knife to a gun to a bomb.
and you know what?
that's perfectly legal.
'cause everyone has the right to defend their property
the mental gymnastics you're doing on a daily basis to twist the real world into the deluded fantasy that you want it to be never fail to amaze me. XD
...spoken like a true Marxist.
But then again you favor a protest out of partisan politics, no matter if it kills dozens of innocents and burns whole neighborhoods--mostly black--to the ground (220 violent protests by your own source. I actually read it.) And if we factor in the repercussions of the Defund the Police movement (possibly the dumbest political cause of the 21st century,) the true death count of the BLM movement is in the thousands.
But they're not the domestic terrorists. Those angry grandmas armed with selfie sticks in the capital, THOSE were the real criminals.
And following your logic, the habitual criminal and abusive drug addict George Floyd was killed by a police officer just doing his job.
out of curiosity, would you argue the same way if the person that got shot wore a Biden hat instead of a Trump hat?
also
if you'd like to have a debate about the differences between the shooting of a trespasser actively committing breaking&entering and the accidental manslaughter through suffocation of an arrested criminal, we can have that debate too. I can be quite civil and I'll be that way if you are.
Leftists lie. As Douglas Murray said...there's nothing to join because it doesn't work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwoO45cSlN4
that shows that the capitol hill protesters were not peaceful and, in fact, fought against police, trespassed, were breaking and entering, conducted vandalism and even arson to some degree.
you are not fooling anyone Alex.
No you don’t know what is going on in my country.
but i do know the difference between paranoid conspiracy theories and actual documented facts and evidence.
Said some icy bitch.
And again, the facts of the matter: one white conservative woman dies at the hands of a cop and it's justified to you.
A black man with a history of violence is killed by a cop and it's indicative of mass racism across the entire country and furthermore justified the deaths of dozens and the burning of cities. (By the way, look up how many unarmed black men have been killed by cops in the last decade compared to other races.)
Do you see how this out of proportion? If it is in sync with a cause you believe in, it's okay--recall VP Harris actively encouraging the riots to continue in 2020. But if you disagree with it, you're an "insurrectionist," a "terrorist."
This is like the California recall election when the LA Times called Larry Elder (a black man) "the new blackface of white supremacy." Is it okay to call an American black either of these things? But because he dares to have an "R" next to his name, the Left can say whatever, do whatever they want to him.
that being said, you seem to either conveniently forget or ignore the simple fact that the woman that got shot was:
1.) trespassing on government property
2.) part of a large mob engaged in fighting police and security forces.
3.) actively breaking and entering into a prohibited area
4.) refused police instructions to seize and desist.
considering all of these factors, along with what went on during the riot, the killing was justified. and in case you need a reminder of the protestors breaking into the capitol and fighting police forces, video evidence of this is plenty and easy to come by in less than one minute on YouTube like this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwoO45cSlN4
as for George Floyd killing, you seem to also conveniently forget or ignore the fact that when he died, he was on the floor with his hands handcuffed behind his back and a police officer on top of him. at this point he was no longer a lethal threat and while the use of a tazer would have been justified, the use of lethal was not. which is why the police officer responsible, Derek Chauvin, is no longer a police officer and is now serving 22 years in prison.
I can see that your arguments are based on your feelings and emotions which are influencing your judgement. I would recommend that you stop arguing on your emotions and take a closer look at the hard evidence that was collected and presented.
Stop sucking up to corporations!!
which by the way, is an extremely weak counter argument which hurts your credibility at best and at worst makes you look like a crazy person.
its very obvious and very pathetic.
I watch the demons of this world and you defend them by denying they exists and attack me.
If you don't want to attack the powers that be that is fine. But for fucks sake don't root for them!
that is why I attack you
you aren't even willing to have a conversation anymore. you aren't open to hear opinions that differ from yours. you aren't willing to change your mind on something you've already decided on, no matter how much evidence is presented to you. and finally, you label everything that doesn't fit into your view of the world as "propaganda".
I know being wrong is not pleasant and it takes courage to admit of being wrong.
I've been wrong before and for all my faults, at the very least I have enough courage that I can admit when I'm wrong and move on from there.
you don't. you never do.
that is why i attack you.
you're not willing to have a conversation, you're not willing to engage with me in any way shape or form, you aren't even willing to extend me an olive branch of some kind.
and you're surprised that I frequently disagree with you and have done so for the past 3 to 4 years?
that's what my generation was taught.
the vast, overwhelming majority of all the stuff I disagree with you on has nothing to do with this "sucking up to corporations" nonsense. its just an excuse you use to not engage in a conversation with people you disagree with.
Some white men apprantly don't feel motivated nore care enough to fight for a country that went to great lengths to demonize them (referring to the ones that don't generally carry those viewpoints.) And basically pointing out that some folks who aren't white basically were acting quite vicious towards em.
Think back like the 1950's and 60's level of vitrial, only the roles are switched and blade by a different generation of people.
Simple; they wanted to make right wingers look bad so they got a mix of actors and gullible conservatives to annoy the fuck out of everyone for 3 weeks. Look at the polls; they show the vast majority of Canadians disliked the convoy. Coincidence?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAVM4wGv6mE
And now, the truckers are gonna make the righties look bad in other countries. Lefty psyop, had to be, that convoy.
But to paraphrase, I don't want America to get into another war. It's not our land. Ukraine belongs to the Ukrainians. And seeing the Afghan withdrawal last year, we clearly don't have the mental acuity in our leadership to handle even a simple task these days, let alone defend a European nation from one of the largest armies on Earth. Would I ask a friend to potentially die for Putin's ambitions? Not in the slightest.
And you got to love how American democrats, Justin Trudeau, and Putin use the exact same rhetoric to refer to their enemies: if they disagree with you, then their Nazis. It's almost like they read from the same playbook (which we know they do.) Actually, my real question is how did some of those Canadian trucker white supremacist sneak across the Atlantic Ocean over the weekend and occupied the Ukraine government?
Regardless, I once thought the movie Red Dawn was a decent flick (the one from the 80's, not the shitty reboot.) Now I realize that it's actually a documentary.
Looking at our history of war it, to me anyway, seems we aren't very good at nation building and I think our wars since WW2 have caused more problems than they resolved. But man have we been in so many of them. We practically have a military base within striking distance of most countries on the planet. I feel we need to scale that back by a fair bit and focus on ourselves. Not to the point of isolation of course but definitely militarily and reevaluating our foreign policies.
Things became evident for us in the U.S. when Trump exposed these idiots to everyone, you just had to have an opened mind & be intelligent enough to actually "see" instead of just "look". This was evident in 2020 & will become more evident with "The People's Convoy" here in the States (inspired by the Canadian Truckers). The truckers will once again expose the corruption of these oligarchs & remind them that they're "elected officials", not our "leaders". That's why the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution starts with "We The People".
Now, staying on topic with what you're saying about "white people"... how many white men & boys died fighting in the Civil War, and yes I know blacks fought & died in the Civil War too, for the freedom of slaves? Every race, as far back as the start of the Gregorian calendar & even further (I'm sure), has had slavery yet somehow "whites" end up being the only ones that did it. Wrong.
Children aren't born racist, racism is taught. The proof is in the "Adults" in our schools pushing "CRT" & shit like that. All you have to do is open your mind & listen. It's in the news, it's in the books the schools are pushing now. Just listen to what some of the news outlets say when they talk about something supposedly racist.
I think Tom Macdonald says it well in his song "America", and he's Canadian:
Original Video: https://youtu.be/RV7oI_Z68Pk
Song with lyrics: https://youtu.be/MZIMXEQiBKM
https://youtu.be/fCMwlorNEZk
I just wanted to add in the comment about how they were up in arms about Putin's police going in and arresting peaceful protestors and the very same people who objected to the Ottawa protests are now crying foul.
One comment in this journal had noted that it was non stop honking for 3 days and blocked traffic and that how would they like it if the role was reversed. I mean I live near Minneapolis and I do work in Minneapolis. Considering the rioting and blatant arson I had to deal with and the very real violence BLM and Antifa were engaged in all with a sitting congresswoman encouraging it... yeah I think I'd be ok if Antifa/BLM just rode in with trucks and were annoying compared to what they did to Minneapolis.
Simply put I have more in common with a trucker who enjoys bbq, bouncy castles for their kids and hot tubs on the sidewalk than I do with angry white people who virtue signal for non-whites day in and day out destroying property and attacking anyone they deem a Nazi... which is basically anyone who doesn't think 100% like them. If Antifa/BLM actually protested like these truckers did I'd be ok with it given the alternatives.
Suck up to power somewhere else!
I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy. From the conspiracy theories to the support of authorities to listening to corporate media (BTW, it's *all* corporate media, even your favorite youtuber potatoes are whores) you've flip-flopped. Every. single. thing. you have been saying today was something you denied or reversed yesteryear; especially the part where authorities and corporate media were actively going after 'liberal' protesters and crushing them.
The astro-turfed Truckers are just tools, easily used, and paid for by corporate powers.
But I thank you for your candor. The vast-majority of Putin-loving tools have been silent on Ukraine and Russia. I've been curious how the Alt-right handles the mental whiplash. You made it clear; the neo-fascists just pretend Ukraine and Russian war crimes aren't happening. Not worth hearing about.