Hold my (root) beer - Solar upgrade to plan/play with ...
3 years ago
General
In previous posts I’ve admitted that while it ‘works’, it leaves a bit to be desired.
So, more batteries and panels coming in to allow for a cloudy day when we get them.
Some limits on the batteries will have me trying to get creative, but that’s half the fun!
More as we get there …
So, more batteries and panels coming in to allow for a cloudy day when we get them.
Some limits on the batteries will have me trying to get creative, but that’s half the fun!
More as we get there …
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There was a reason I stayed away from the 'all in one' systems, most are okay as 'little something is better than nothing', but are limited and can't be expanded. (and even with already having three times the storage I'm adding to mine!)
Your inverter is 6kW continuous, so I imagine that eventually you'll need to upgrade that to support the extra battery power and solar panels you want to add. Do they make larger inverters, or can you daisy chain inverters?
If you divide 6000W into 15360Whs you discover that at full inverter load my battery bank with go from topped off to flat in a mere two and a half hours. Even doubling the battery bank only gives you five hours of runtime at 6000 watts.
Best sun charging to date has been just over a kilowatt hour per panel (16.24 with 16 panels, should be able to expect 24kWhs when I add eight more), which could add another 2.5-4 hours of runtime at 6000 watts (but that would mean the batteries didn't get any of that power.)
Since the current setup is topping off the batteries on most sunny days with power from the panels being 12-15kWhs of juice (and I understand we put about 1.25 times the power in for the power out on these batteries) then my normal (inside) house usage is around 10-12kWhs or averaging a mere 420Whs per hour.
Want to hear a really good joke? I have a gaming machine I use to make my 3D art. If the CPU and GPU are running at full power during a rendering the beast will draw over 440 watts all by itself (yes, I've been using it rather sparingly of late! )
As of recently, I used 15kWh minimum with the AC or heat off because I'm using both my laptop and computer do some crypto mining. If the heat is on (I have a space heater in my room, because the old Dearborn heater is WAY too effective at heating the room), I can use up to 50kWh in a day. AC on, its about 25-30kWh (I have an LG Dual Inverter 18,000 BTU unit for the main part of the house). I haven't seen how much extra it is when using my dryer, since I did that yesterday, and 4/8 is the most current usage on that website.
The solar panel system I would like to have, would be equal to, or slightly over my recent average usage (say around a 8kW system)
Like this here: https://i.imgur.com/sZfWqSf.png
If you want solar for charging batteries to run the house go as much more than a day's worth of power that you can, as one cloudy day can sink you. (Which is why I'm adding batteries to hold enough power for an extra day and the solar panels to mostly recharge the batteries after a cloudy/rainy day. )
(I use https://eth.crazypool.org/ as the pool, and mine with the TRex client)
My computer has an RTX2070, TRex calculates its using 156W to mine. The laptop has a dedicated GTX1060 Max Q video card, which Trex calculates it uses 64W to mine.
Cheapest is $1500, mining Dogecoin, using somewhere around 220 watts, and at 205MH. That being the Goldshell Mini-Doge Pro. That might get you $30-35 a month, with power costs being maybe $16 a month
I went 48 because at 6000 watts the inverter would be drawing 125 amps at 48 and 250 amps at 24. (ignoring loses in the system)
There is a chance my setup might end up as part of a motor-home, in which case I was figuring on running 48 and 12 volt systems. (there being so many 12 volt options out there. )
For lighting I know it's more efficient to run dc lights then using the inverter to step things up then step things back down in the light source...
Depending on the house build that will decide how we heat and cool the place.
Another thing to consider in the AC/DC choice is wire runs and current requirements. On long runs it might be 'cheaper' to convert to AC and then convert or use an AC light/motor then to run heavier wires (both for current and to reduce line loss) to run lower voltage DC lights/motors at the other end.
Something else that can be done is to separate things into two 'banks' home/shop, that way you playing in the shop too long doesn't mean the house runs out of power. And it doesn't have to be done all at once, just have the wiring in place as you build it (this could also give you redundancy if/when something fails - or you have to borrow from the shop power because the house batteries are getting low ... )
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And I'm still sucking off the grid for the A/C compressor and drier - though I will admit the past couple month's electric bills have been a third of what they were last year! (Though it won't last. Last September we averaged 70.6kWhs a day - which averages out to just under 3000Whs per hour. Even doubling my battery storage won't cover half that load! So far my best solar charge day with sixteen panels has been 16.24kWhs, so maxing out my system with 24 panels would still be just a third of the power used.)
Though if things get bad I may have to pick up a couple window units and manage my power differently ("Hey! Kill your A/C so I can run the microwave!" )
Natural gas for heat/hot water/cooking so my winters aren't quite as power hungry, but if the whole grid goes down there won't be any pumps running for gas or water - which will make things 'interesting' ...
I did add eight more panels to bring me up to 5kWs on the roof, and another dozen batteries bringing me up to 30kWhs of storage - still using that 6kW inverter.
Best sun day so far saw the panels give me just over 22kWhs of free power in one day. On the flip side, a couple of cloudy days in a row forced me to switch the main house back to the grid.
I'm thinking of getting a pair of small window A/Cs to cool just the bedrooms (already having a week of 100+F this week in SATX!) in case the mains go down (rolling blackouts already being suggested from our power company), the window units won't be much more of a draw than the central system already is.