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My problem with A.I. art.
3 years ago
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I can't help it if people steal my work through AI. Art theft is just something that comes when you put your art on the internet. Besides, my art is hardly worth stealing to begin with. However, what really irks me is when AI art floods my news feed and it just ruins my browsing experience. Usually when I browse through DeviantArt. When I see a cool artwork I want to Follow the actual artist who made it. Not some thief who punched in some keywords.
Often times I feel bamboozled when I see an artwork that seems cool but when I look up the gallery it turns out there's like 15 variations of the same piece with a similar color scheme. Knowing that the elements were most likely used without the artists' consent just ruins the experience for me. Part of my enjoyment of browsing art is knowing that an actual PERSON labored time and skill into drawing/photographing/composing that piece. There was actual skill involved which often takes years to perfect. Punching in keywords does not an artist make. The only "artist" here is the programmer who made the generator.
So what I hate about AI art is the fact that I now have to vet every artist that I see before giving them a Follow/Favorite. It's such a chore which sometimes ends in disappointment. Before AI was a thing, I can simply give them a Follow/Favorite via the nearest button. I can no longer do that because I can't in good conscience follow a person who steals art from other artists. And so now I need to open their gallery first and assess whether there is any indication of an AI being involved. Usually sudden changes of art style within a single art piece or multiple art pieces in the gallery with the same layout/color scheme/theme (e.g.: 10 submissions of an anthro tiger in a SWAT suit with a techno color scheme from roughly the same angle with roughly the same pose, uploaded at roughly the same time). A lovely past time is now a sleuth chore.
I can't help if my work is drowned by other AI "artists". My work has always been a mere drop in a vast ocean of artworks made by artists more talented than I anyway. But my enjoyment of browsing other people's artwork is now ruined and that's where I feel discomforted on a daily basis :(
Often times I feel bamboozled when I see an artwork that seems cool but when I look up the gallery it turns out there's like 15 variations of the same piece with a similar color scheme. Knowing that the elements were most likely used without the artists' consent just ruins the experience for me. Part of my enjoyment of browsing art is knowing that an actual PERSON labored time and skill into drawing/photographing/composing that piece. There was actual skill involved which often takes years to perfect. Punching in keywords does not an artist make. The only "artist" here is the programmer who made the generator.
So what I hate about AI art is the fact that I now have to vet every artist that I see before giving them a Follow/Favorite. It's such a chore which sometimes ends in disappointment. Before AI was a thing, I can simply give them a Follow/Favorite via the nearest button. I can no longer do that because I can't in good conscience follow a person who steals art from other artists. And so now I need to open their gallery first and assess whether there is any indication of an AI being involved. Usually sudden changes of art style within a single art piece or multiple art pieces in the gallery with the same layout/color scheme/theme (e.g.: 10 submissions of an anthro tiger in a SWAT suit with a techno color scheme from roughly the same angle with roughly the same pose, uploaded at roughly the same time). A lovely past time is now a sleuth chore.
I can't help if my work is drowned by other AI "artists". My work has always been a mere drop in a vast ocean of artworks made by artists more talented than I anyway. But my enjoyment of browsing other people's artwork is now ruined and that's where I feel discomforted on a daily basis :(
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I do appreciate FA not having those and so that's why I still enjoy using this site. Also, I appreciate the Watch list I have gathered right now and so I plan on keeping all of my Followed accounts as AI free as possible. I might not enjoy the "Most Recent Posts" section anymore but at least my "Art from people you Follow" is still clean.
I unfaved, stopped following, and now I have to be very careful when seeing art from an artist I've never heard of before: is it legit, or AI made?
This is going to be devastating for all of us, and specially unknown artists entering the professional world: how to get noticed in a constantly evolving sea of AI art? Plus, new artists will have to prove they've done everything themselves...
AI enthusiastic understood that very quickly: some of them are attacking industry veteran artists (those whose art has feed the AI machines) by telling them "looks like AI art...Admit you haven't done it yourself, you're a cheater!"
I agree, AI art is going to be a thorn in the flesh for the art industry. Wish it was banned but censoring AI art is going to be a hassle because it might backfire and turn into a double-edged sword. If a ban is placed then there will definitely emerge false accusations. Personally I have recorded timelapse videos and so I have some evidence to procure. However, I do understand that not everybody has the ability to record, compose, and then upload them on YouTube. It takes a lot of extra time and energy making those. Even I don't make a timelapse on every piece I draw. And so it's like another commenter said, AI art has become a noise. A really annoying noise in an already noisy cyber network.
Classify image generators as plagiarism and prosecute offenders; problem solved. I think we would be better off as a species without data analytics and A.I, outside of military applications. Some technologies become destructive if not restricted.
Wasn't aware of the AI thing in DA Though internet wise I'm starting to get irked with it. As good artists are losing out on their work being stolen or a computer using aspects of it with out permission
Internet was supposed to bring humans forward with collective sharing of intelligence and ideas...not this
And thank you for the compliment. I appreciate it.
However, we still don't know for sure to what extent this new tech will affect the industry. Everything is just speculation until we see how things play out on the field. The fight ain't over until it is and worrying about what hasn't happened isn't going to help. Staying paralyzed for sure won't help anything either. So I say we keep fighting til the end.
There's still hope it might blow off. There's a saying, "Easy come, easy go." and AI art sure seems to come easily. A lot of things have happened in in the past couple of years that felt like the world is about to end and yet here we are. Besides, even if it does affect things, it won't change overnight and we will have time to adapt. Like I mentioned above: Just because TV and Hollywood blockbuster emerged, doesn't mean the Broadway is dead. People still buy tickets to see musicals, opera, theater, and concerts even with the invention of portable music devices. Heck, people said Twitter is dead after Elon Musk bought it and people are still as active there as ever (maybe even more active lately, dare I say). People said FA was dead when Weasyl came out and yet most of my clients still come from FA; which is still the best anthro site in the block.
Regardless of how AI art affects the industry, if being an artist is indeed your calling, I believe God will provide a way somehow. Just keep moving forward in faith one step at a time. It's better than withdrawing out of fear only to find out that it hardly did anything to the industry, right? :)
As a computer science student, the possibilities AI can bring about fascinate me. We can bring back the voices and faces of those we love or lost. We can take the driver out of the equation and solve traffic problems and crashes. But when it comes to art, music, writing, and other creative endeavors, keep those goddamn robots out of it.
Detroit: Become Human aptly showed that AI can copy, but it cannot necessarily create. Check it out or watch gameplay of it. I highly recommend it!
Didn’t knew that actually exists.
Can you give me an example ?
You can find many AI Prompters on DeviantArt's frontpage. I'd venture to say that some submissions showcased in the front page are bound to be generated with A.I.
I'm personally looking at buying a drafting table in the future so I can more easily pursue traditional art. It's a little harder to fake something that is made with traditional materials. illustrations for my stories are probably not going to be published anymore until I'm ready to submit them for copyright; although with as many years as I've been procrastinating about getting back to them, they might never get finished.
I have only recently been exposed to the improved A.I images and while I knew the abominations were good at visually representing concepts; the new generators can actually make reasonably good characters that need trivial touch ups. It's now entirely adequate for conception work.
We may very well see a future where artists release "samples" and their gallery / portfolio access is licensed. There is no point in hiring an artist if you can get their gallery and feed it into a generator to make what you will.
Ideally, I want to see the world go the way of Dune or Warhammer 40K and just destroy the "thinking machines"; abominations of human intelligence. Outlaw all data analytics, automated profiling, including image generators. Abolish automation and regulate the life out of it so the limit is a tool in a human's hand. This trash is probably going to put a lot of people out of a job soon at the NGC and PCGS coin grading services since A.I can grade coins, faster, better, and more reliably than a human can.
We gave up what is sufficient while pursuing efficiency and profit; efficiency-ING humans right out of relevancy. At the rate we are going, we will have several billion useless eaters and breeders that need to be culled. There is no purpose to their continued existence and they consume resources that could be better used by the few people that have remained relevant.
Checking galleries is a must now. I wasn't expecting to have to look for counterfeits in digital media. These programs should be on the game grounds are plagiarism; a felony to use or create.
I do not want to be one of the ones taken out by AIs.