So long as it isn't shit like the actual End Times in WHF was.

Yeah that was a rush job and no real thinking

It was also GW throwing a tantrum over not getting their way because they wanted players to determine the outcome. Forces of Order won, and GW threw a hissy fit over it and wrote their own garbage to compensate Chaos and Skaven winning everything for 0 reason and declared it canon.

yeah, that's kind of childish really. now WHF is kind of ruined because of that.

I have 0 love for WH40, mostly because it was put on a pedestal over the WHF that I loved (plus I'm not a sci-fi man in general). However that doesn't mean I want to see WH40K receive a similar 'End Times'-esque treatment if it's true.

It's fine for settings to have their end. All good stories need a close. But killing 90% of the lore characters in a setting and blowing up the world/universe isn't a good resolution regardless of what the setting is.

can you show me where they said they wanted players to determine the outcome?

this also sounds like something that happened decades ago in neopets with a war scenario where the players sympathized with the designated villains and the management had to throw shit together to not let the "bad guys" win despite them having legitimate grievances with the "good guys"

Just research Storm of Chaos vs End Times and you'll find your answer. But I'm a nice guy so I'll leave you a couple of links to do your own research.

1. https://steamcommunity.com/app/5945.....8024823556035/
2. https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkafor.....st/639661.page

Additional note, I haven't kept up with Neopets stuff since I was like...8 or 9 lol. So I have no comment about the Neopets war thingy.

thank you

well doubt it. but well theyre's a second primarch returning for the loyalists now.

Just you wait, any moment now Leman Russ is going to bust out of the Eye of Terror, because like HELL is he going to let Lion have all the glory on this one.

I might have cared if Games Workshop didn't force Emperor Text To Speech to be cancelled leaving on a cliffhanger downer ending.

If 40k "ends" like WHF did and they pull the same bullshit of "everything's fucked because we say so despite the players trying their hardest to get a good ending" then I'd be mad if I was still invested in this.

Hope to see more of your ironwars stuff regardless

Regardless, I'm likely to just ignore it and continue enjoying Pre-End Times content like I've been doing with WHF.

I personally doubt that GW will kill off the IP that makes them the most money at the moment. Warhammer Fantasy died the way it did because it was stagnating as a game at best and, despite having a devoted fanbase, it was nowhere near as profitable for the company to keep supporting in its then-current state. The same can be said for a lot of the specialist games too.

But that's the Doylist explanation.

The Watsonian one is that there's still way too much to potentially explore in the 40k universe for a potential End Times scenario to even be considered. Bear in mind that, following the End Times books and the death of WFB, a lot of people thought that the Gathering Storm books leading into 8th Ed 40k were going to be the same deal, and as it turned out the destruction of Cadia and the creation of the Cicatrix Maledictum was just another chapter in a never-ending saga of status quo.