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2 years ago
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✿✿✿✿✿ So, they addressed one of the points the community made. One. Neither of the others. Not the fact vore art of minors is still allowed, or the fact that the vast majority of the comments I've seen are opposed to this slippery slope of a policy update, and quite frankly, some of us (me included) are getting just a teensy bit FRUSTRATED with their refusal to walk back on this (the only way they're gonna be able to salvage anything at this rate) or even properly address it. "Oh there's a document coming!" Fucking WHERE. It's been a week, and if they weren't prepared to clarify their policy, maybe they shouldn't have announced it until they were ready?? ... Do the mods just have their heads so far up their collective asses that they can't hear all the shouting in their little state carnival of the site? Because it sure seems like that's the case!
So, since the people running this siteinto the ground don't seem to be stopping no matter how much overwhelming backlash this whole thing is getting, I've decided to make a couple other sites where you'll be able to find me once I'm inevitably banned.
Of course, I'm gonna keep posting art until then, because as I said in my last journal:
Oh, you want me gone from the site for a feral drawing I did of a sentient ADULT Pokémon that wasn't a final stage evolution, just like a massive amount of this site? Then fucking pry this account from my cold dead fingers.
The last one is in case I ever decide to try picking up writing stories, which is... Well, there's a maybe-possible chance of that??? Not very likely, but still possible (really I just made it to more easily read and comment on stories from people on here that also have their stories over there).
Before I post this journal, I'll just leave my message in the FurAffinity Discord that I made the other day here (with slight revisions for relevancy):
* You cannot have any subjectivity in your rules, especially when the potential result is being labelled as having drawn CP and potentially having your livelihood ruined if FurAffinity is where you do most of your commission work. Subjective opinion should not be involved in a ruling.
* The general idea of this rule is good, loli/shota/cub (they're all CP) should straight up burn. However, as said above, the old ruleset worked fine. The 1000 year old vampire that looks like a child should most certainly not be lewded. However, what about drawing species on-model that barely change their appearance (like Eevee, one of the most popular Pokesonas of all time)? Guess we'll just die too.
* These updates really should have been looked over thoroughly and made absolutely MONOLITHIC before being announced to the public. All the lack of proper clarification and insertion of subjectivity has done is create stress and anxiety for your community, as well as create discourse between two camps to the point it's cannibalizing itself.
* Did you seriously think making a policy update that would throw your site's users into a panic was a good idea when you don't have enough mod staff to even have a hope of keeping up with the tickets, the site is a buggy mess and tends to go down pretty frequently compared to other sites of its kind, and when people have been asking for things for years, y'know, LIKE A BLACKLIST?
* Genuinely, what the actual fuck were you guys thinking? "Mental maturity doesn't matter" (nice job creating a loophole where an adult character that's mentally a child that literally cannot consent can be drawn) and "Minors involved in non-sexualized interests like transformation and vore are allowed" (vore, especially when using that term, is primarily a FETISH, massive yikes). I think most people with more than two braincells to rub together can see the fucking issue here.
The only way this whole situation can be even remotely salvaged, far as I can tell, is by walking back on this policy update in it's entirety (but keep the thing about teen pregnancy being banned), remove the clause about minors being involved in vore (because as much as you try to say otherwise, it's still a fetish, especially when you use that term for it), and if you ever try to introduce something like it again, you have to fucking clarify EVERYTHING so there's no room for abuse! And even then, a good chunk of your users probably aren't going to trust you anymore. I obviously can't speak for everyone, but a vast majority of the messages I've seen have been frustrated with you guys.
I'm sorry if I'm being overly harsh here or if my thoughts are getting jumbled up, especially since I know some of the mods don't have as much of a say in the policy updates and are forced to put up with the community's frustrations like glorified PR. It's just so simultaneously frustrating, exhausting and infuriating to seemingly have your livelihood put at risk for almost a week (since, while slow, FurAffinity is where I've gotten the majority of my commissions), with uncertainty of what actually constitutes breaking the rules because subjectivity is being thrown in (which is something you really don't want to do with potentially alleging someone drew cub/CP), and have have it seem like nobody in charge is listening to the main thing that's being argued aside from canned responses.
So, since the people running this site
Of course, I'm gonna keep posting art until then, because as I said in my last journal:
Oh, you want me gone from the site for a feral drawing I did of a sentient ADULT Pokémon that wasn't a final stage evolution, just like a massive amount of this site? Then fucking pry this account from my cold dead fingers.
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SoFurry // Inkbunny // Ao3Before I post this journal, I'll just leave my message in the FurAffinity Discord that I made the other day here (with slight revisions for relevancy):
* You cannot have any subjectivity in your rules, especially when the potential result is being labelled as having drawn CP and potentially having your livelihood ruined if FurAffinity is where you do most of your commission work. Subjective opinion should not be involved in a ruling.
* The general idea of this rule is good, loli/shota/cub (they're all CP) should straight up burn. However, as said above, the old ruleset worked fine. The 1000 year old vampire that looks like a child should most certainly not be lewded. However, what about drawing species on-model that barely change their appearance (like Eevee, one of the most popular Pokesonas of all time)? Guess we'll just die too.
* These updates really should have been looked over thoroughly and made absolutely MONOLITHIC before being announced to the public. All the lack of proper clarification and insertion of subjectivity has done is create stress and anxiety for your community, as well as create discourse between two camps to the point it's cannibalizing itself.
* Did you seriously think making a policy update that would throw your site's users into a panic was a good idea when you don't have enough mod staff to even have a hope of keeping up with the tickets, the site is a buggy mess and tends to go down pretty frequently compared to other sites of its kind, and when people have been asking for things for years, y'know, LIKE A BLACKLIST?
* Genuinely, what the actual fuck were you guys thinking? "Mental maturity doesn't matter" (nice job creating a loophole where an adult character that's mentally a child that literally cannot consent can be drawn) and "Minors involved in non-sexualized interests like transformation and vore are allowed" (vore, especially when using that term, is primarily a FETISH, massive yikes). I think most people with more than two braincells to rub together can see the fucking issue here.
The only way this whole situation can be even remotely salvaged, far as I can tell, is by walking back on this policy update in it's entirety (but keep the thing about teen pregnancy being banned), remove the clause about minors being involved in vore (because as much as you try to say otherwise, it's still a fetish, especially when you use that term for it), and if you ever try to introduce something like it again, you have to fucking clarify EVERYTHING so there's no room for abuse! And even then, a good chunk of your users probably aren't going to trust you anymore. I obviously can't speak for everyone, but a vast majority of the messages I've seen have been frustrated with you guys.
I'm sorry if I'm being overly harsh here or if my thoughts are getting jumbled up, especially since I know some of the mods don't have as much of a say in the policy updates and are forced to put up with the community's frustrations like glorified PR. It's just so simultaneously frustrating, exhausting and infuriating to seemingly have your livelihood put at risk for almost a week (since, while slow, FurAffinity is where I've gotten the majority of my commissions), with uncertainty of what actually constitutes breaking the rules because subjectivity is being thrown in (which is something you really don't want to do with potentially alleging someone drew cub/CP), and have have it seem like nobody in charge is listening to the main thing that's being argued aside from canned responses.
FestivalGrey
~festivalgrey
Well said, well said.
