So we're still screwed then, fuck.

Prigozhin was never on our side.

doesn't make things better

Nope, unfortunately. Doesn't make anything better for anybody.

thats gonna put a crimp in Wagner sticking around Ukraine.

I'm actually surprised, since the Wagner forces have been some of Putin's most valuable in fighting for achieving his goals around the world.

welp...not anymore.

I actually figured that Putin thought it valuable to keep him around just for that. Guess not.

I don't see this boding well for his chances in Ukraine.

Putin will probably keep Wagner around in any case.

"Добрый вечер, вот новости в начале часа. Власти сообщают, что самолет в течение последних пяти недель вел себя хаотично и, возможно, имел склонность к самоубийству. В ангаре самолета была найдена рукописная записка, которая в настоящее время анализируется ГРУ, но полиция указала, что, по всей видимости, самолет выбросился из окна. Когда было указано, что в этом районе нет зданий, которые могли бы способствовать такому акту, репортер впал в уныние и немедленно выпрыгнул из ближайшего окна. Мы будем информировать вас, как только станет доступна более подробная информация."

Xaxaxa!

Is dócha gurb í an Rúis an t-aon tír Araibise eile a dhéanann coirpigh agus marfóirí a chiapadh. Tá a gcuid dlíthe ró-dhian.

Russia is arab?

News to me.

Of course nobody wants to believe that but they'll believe that prigozhian was on that flight. That's why I said that it shows propaganda just like him being on that plane. 😑😑😑

I was expecting a heart attack

Or strangely itchy underwear.

Still, very nasty of Putin to kill *innocent* people like the pilots and the flight attendant, collateral damages are uncool

As if he cares about a few lives here or there, no matter whose they were.

Exactly, and Prigozhin's stupid for wanting to fly in a plane, let alone showing his face. If I was him I'd be super super worried to do the simplest things like checking my phone, and I'd try to disappear for a couple of year and/or fake my own death

Or could this be a diversion tactic by Wagner to trick Putin into believing Prigozhin is dead?

Probably no reason to get too far out there on the conspiracy theory tip, but some of this was brought up in the radio show I reffed at the bottom here.

or maybe a convenient open window in a tall office building.

*Did*

I'll assume that you're referring to my quote of Blinkin here.

For better or worse, he's still with us.

Ah I was misinformed then
Intresting times

We have indeed been condemned to live in interesting times.

I'm waiting for it to be confirmed that the plane was shot down.

Personally, I'd give it more than a fair chance. Looks like a wing was blown off in it's last thirty seconds of travel, and it went down rapidly nose first.

So, I reckon the rebellion's back on? Shame.

Seriously though, if it's Wagner that's been behind the bulk of monstrous war crimes (and I'm just making an uneducated guess about that)... I don't actually want to see that happen to Russia—but I don't want to see it happen to Ukraine either.

Also: Predictable definitely-not-assassination of another powerful ethically bankrupt cohort, in this case the head of what is arguably Russia's only effective fighting force; Putin remains a master tactician.

It'll be interesting to see what happens to Wagner now. They've been awfully useful for Putin.

Again I do not believe putin. Manifest does not mean he was on that jet😑😑😑 just because his name was there does not mean he was. Like UFO's or UAP's that's what the u stands for "unidentified" well this is still unidentified to me until I see better proof I still don't believe it... putin can go f#%k himself, baby killing a%# hole. Sorry but that's how I feel about that guy😡😡😡

I think most folks pretty much agree with your appraisal of Putin, but he hasn't said anything about this yet that we know of.

And while we don't have absolute proof yet, and it's POSSIBLE that there are some shenanigans going on behind the scenes, (I've heard a number of possibilities at this point) I still think that the obvious outcome is the one most likely. The simplest explanation is almost always the correct one, after all. It's basic logic.

This isn't logical this is plain lies from putin. I think he's still lurking about, and my beliefs are mine and I'm not trying to change minds I'm just saying look at another viewpoint. The buck stops with russia and putin. The only way to know is a DNA test on the people that were on that plane. I would never say you're wrong because Lei, Kentucky Nadie, DNFTT2011, Riff and you are the smartest on here and I like holding conversations with you💗💗💗

While the more outlandish explanations of this ARE possible, I'm going with the simplest and most logical explanation until I see evidence that indicates otherwise.

Thanks for the compliment, and I enjoy my conversations with you as well. You come across as a smart person.

Thank you I try I just don't feel that way sometimes. I also think Couger and Marmelemm are amazing and smarter than the average on here as well. 💗💟💗

I know you seem to often feel like you don't, but you should.

You've also picked a pretty good group of friends, and I think we've all got your back.

That's true you all are amazing to me and I've got your back too. Thank you for being so sweet to me as well.💗💟💗