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So I discovered AI art generators recently
2 years ago
(Preface: For the record, I have never used AI for anything on my page, text or otherwise.)
(...and hopefully it's not against the rules just to TALK about AI...)
Unlike many/probably most other artists, I don't see any real problem with AI generators, probably because I don't have any financial interest in the stuff I do. In my opinion, they can never truly replace a real artist since a real artist can create new ideas on a whim rather than being shackled to pop culture. It doesn't detract from real artists, it just lets Mr. Average-ICan'tEvenDrawAStraightLine-Joe translate the stuff in his head, too (adding a second "in my opinion" here because I can already here the pitchforks coming for me). I've already been using text generators off and on for years for my own personal entertainment, since my tastes are eccentric and it's easiest to just write my own stuff, currently vouching for NovelAI. I see them as a lazy way to get into an off-the-cuff fantasy world without putting a lot of effort in. You just think of an action and the first few words of a sentence and then spam the generate button. It's pretty fun! Even if AI still sucks at writing overall.
I was staying away from art generation, though, since I didn't think I could run it... but then I checked out Bing's Creator thing and while it's heavily censored, one of the things I happen to be heavily into doesn't technically count as NSFW, and Microsoft's program happens to generate that very well. I'll let you guess which one, since there's 2 answers, and 1 of them gets blocked like a mother******. I got tired of all the wait times, though, and the quality ended up getting me motivated to say "eh, I'm not doing anything this weekend" and download Stable Diffusion.
And that? That was a real trip. It was breathtaking, really. Just... really amazing how... mortifyingly difficult it is to generate anything even remotely similar to anything on my page. I can't find models for this stuff. I can't find loras for this stuff. Took the several hours to try and create my own lora and that was a pretty big waste of time that was set to become a much bigger waste of time if I tried fine-tuning it. Furry models just don't quite understand where I'm trying to go (hash-tag pop culture), while realism models have been unmitigated disasters. I think at some point I kind of forgot just how unpopular Hyper really is and I just kind of assumed "oh, this is a pretty big subculture, I'm sure this won't be too hard", setting myself up for the smackdown.
Not that I haven't seen success, I just didn't think I would have to get this intricate with the prompting to generate something that's merely "good". Yeah, sure, the picture quality is amazing, but when that novelty wears off and you're trying to reach for particular subject matter, time disappears before your very eyes as you generate failure after failure. My kingdom for some way to give this thing an anatomy lesson on non-humanoids.
All those people that just want to see anime girls have it so easy I swear.
(...and hopefully it's not against the rules just to TALK about AI...)
Unlike many/probably most other artists, I don't see any real problem with AI generators, probably because I don't have any financial interest in the stuff I do. In my opinion, they can never truly replace a real artist since a real artist can create new ideas on a whim rather than being shackled to pop culture. It doesn't detract from real artists, it just lets Mr. Average-ICan'tEvenDrawAStraightLine-Joe translate the stuff in his head, too (adding a second "in my opinion" here because I can already here the pitchforks coming for me). I've already been using text generators off and on for years for my own personal entertainment, since my tastes are eccentric and it's easiest to just write my own stuff, currently vouching for NovelAI. I see them as a lazy way to get into an off-the-cuff fantasy world without putting a lot of effort in. You just think of an action and the first few words of a sentence and then spam the generate button. It's pretty fun! Even if AI still sucks at writing overall.
I was staying away from art generation, though, since I didn't think I could run it... but then I checked out Bing's Creator thing and while it's heavily censored, one of the things I happen to be heavily into doesn't technically count as NSFW, and Microsoft's program happens to generate that very well. I'll let you guess which one, since there's 2 answers, and 1 of them gets blocked like a mother******. I got tired of all the wait times, though, and the quality ended up getting me motivated to say "eh, I'm not doing anything this weekend" and download Stable Diffusion.
And that? That was a real trip. It was breathtaking, really. Just... really amazing how... mortifyingly difficult it is to generate anything even remotely similar to anything on my page. I can't find models for this stuff. I can't find loras for this stuff. Took the several hours to try and create my own lora and that was a pretty big waste of time that was set to become a much bigger waste of time if I tried fine-tuning it. Furry models just don't quite understand where I'm trying to go (hash-tag pop culture), while realism models have been unmitigated disasters. I think at some point I kind of forgot just how unpopular Hyper really is and I just kind of assumed "oh, this is a pretty big subculture, I'm sure this won't be too hard", setting myself up for the smackdown.
Not that I haven't seen success, I just didn't think I would have to get this intricate with the prompting to generate something that's merely "good". Yeah, sure, the picture quality is amazing, but when that novelty wears off and you're trying to reach for particular subject matter, time disappears before your very eyes as you generate failure after failure. My kingdom for some way to give this thing an anatomy lesson on non-humanoids.
All those people that just want to see anime girls have it so easy I swear.
AI appeals to people who will shrug their shoulders and go "good enough" at a particular result - one reason why it's dangerous to trust it with info gathering like Bing does... Someone with a particular vision is very unlikely to be satisfied with AI "art".
Still, at least it wasn't a waste of time. Don't know 'til you try, and the stream of non-euclidean, Lovecraftian nightmares can be great for coming up with new ideas.