Amen.

Ugh, so true. Especially when they complain about genders.

That one alone is a minefield, it's no wonder people are overly cautious nowadays when the vast amount of time no one wishes to cause insult or offense, yet some take it anyway.

it always felt so needless and silly to me how people will go out of their way to expose themselves to things they hate just so they can be angry at it. It's not allowed to exist in their world so they will just make themselves angrier and angrier until it magically vanishes. The stupid anti-feral crews going around harassing artists are a prime example of these idiots

I didn't even think of that (first sentence)... now that you point it out it seems weird yeah - maybe they just spotted it "by accident" (like frontpage), got angry at it and just had to complain... instead of just ignoring it.
Plus tell me about it with the anti-feral crews... Can fully relate to that.

it's bewildering every goddamn time.

Havn't you heard? You're only supposed to draw pure uwu cute stuff where no one is ever hurt or in pain or going through difficulty or else you get cancelled for being p r o b l e m a t i c.

On a more serious note, couldn't agree more.

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i will next time draw cutesy stuff and write in impact font "i suffered a curse that burned my legs off, i am in intense pain, please end me"

https://x.com/o_Nitro/status/175140.....664726700?s=20

Lmao that tweet is perfect.

Everyone can have an opinion. Everyone is allowed to speak that opinion as they wish.

But that doesn't mean that people have to listen to it. And it also doesn't mean that you should always speak it out.

There's times and places for everything. And then there's times and places where you should keep things to yourself - like the one you stated.
I wish more people would understand that... It's really not that difficult is it?

PS: This was probably the most complicated way of saying that I fully agree lol. But I feel like I had to point out the core of the issue.

PPS: Basically what I tried to say in an overlay complicated way is:
"Only because you can (say something) doesn't always mean you should (say something)"

Me every time someone complains about me drawing a female or getting art of my ladies 😒

I've gotten to the same point as you. The moment someone opens their mouth to complain about the content of a piece that isn't made for them they get to join the others in the block list. I don't know how much more I can just stare at their comment saying 'why would I fucking care?' when it wasn't even made with them in mind.

Though, tbh it was exhausting from the moment I got the first one in my notifs.

bruh in my deviant art days i took my pitchfork and hated back on the haters, even on art that wasnt mine
saw a negative comment, i will call an assassine on your ass!!!!

i am so jaded i stopped giving a shit. but i am back at the point where this stuff just tilts me more and more again

People who do that make me want to reply to them saying, "NOBODY ASKED YOU!"

There's a user that goes around commenting that they don't like specific content ON that content, and I am wondering if it's the same user lol

I think I know who youre talking about and yeah, I thought the same thing xD

There are many people who simply can't tolerate the idea of something they disagree with existing. That's all it is, really: Textbook intolerance.

Now and then the Fandom gets a new Freshmen Class of people who feel the need to lecture or opine on something they dislike that crossed their eyeballs, and try to rally support versus that thing. It's cyclical, it happens with waves like the anti-feral thing because those people don't know history or weren't here the last time debates were had or people explained the difference between fantasy and reality to their predecessors.

And then also some people are just trolls.

In the end, it's worth it to keep in mind that these people are just a vocal minority and don't change a thing. They are without good social etiquette, have little to no good faith intentions behind their comments, and addressing them is like getting in a pig sty to wrestle the pig: You end up dirty anyway, and the pig likes it.

My method's become largely to acknowledge what they are and no more: an annoying consequence of modern internet's socially-engaged platform format for everyone, including people with dumb opinions--and blocklist or ignore. Don't elevate them because that's usually what they want: Validation by acknowledgment. And don't boost them to get others to snark at because nothing positive or constructive comes of it and oftentimes the person's a younger git who wizens up and realizes how dumb they were when they were younger.

big agree.
this one in particular just jaded me so much. it's sad because this individual commissioned me/snagged a ych from me too. bewilderen to find out some people you interacted are so emotionally unintelligent. especially coming from this very individual.
but byeah, today i draw the line, past this point people are going in my blocklist

Yes, we're all allowed our opinions, and yes there's content that makes me eh (we all have those things!), but I'm past the point of stirring up problems nowadays. It's just not worth ruining everyone's little escape from reality. Good for you for announcing this! Your art is phenomenal and I can't even imagine anyone just... Saying those things so blatantly

But :( but...but.....but if i cant leave a hate comment, then.......... how is the artist supposed to know that im really really personally offended by the harmless thing they're doing in their own space(which i clicked on), and that i need them to stop immediately??? when are these terrible people going to finally take responsibility for my comfort and cater my experience for me? Ummm... No, i don't know what a "close tab" is. Why do you ask <---- this is what they sound like to me

thank god for the block button. if they can't figure out how to use it, at least we can

I wholly agree with all of this. It used to be a thing of: if you didn't like or care for something, then you just don't look at it and move on with your day. Now everything is trigger-inducing and people have to climb up on their soap box and scream.

Ugh.

Life is too short. Everyone likes what they like, everyone's tastes are different. Thank goodness for that because the world would be such a boring and stale place otherwise. These people definitely need to go back to the old school thing of minding their own damn business. And if you've got a problem with something, then move on to something they do.

Because regardless of anything, "I don't like this and I don't get why anyone does" technically applies to EVERYTHING. You know; some people don't like tomatoes. Fact of life, they need to learn to deal with it. :D.

gosh yeah, except, when you like tripe soup, i will very openly and loudly grimace at you in disgust
(jk but thats still dogfood in my stupid opinion lmao)

Sure. But I doubt you go out of your way to trounce into a restaurant so you can find someone eating it and berate them for doing so. Hehehe. You know... like those vegans do.

gosh yeah, insanity

I still am fairly consistently get people DM/PM'ing me and then getting mad at me when I refuse to roleplay with them.

I respectfully disagree.
I'd argue it matters more how frequent it is or whether genuine hate is being thrown your way.

Not understanding something/disliking it is perfectly normal and I don't think voicing your opinion on it is much of a crime even if it happens to be on something you created.
It doesn't take anything away from good art nor how much you poured into the work, so why should the person be immediately shut down from any further interactions?
If it's consistent then I would argue it deserves a block but over a single comment? Nah, that's shallow in my book.
You can just look past it, sure. But sometimes your submission box gets something that you open and you feel the need to say something. I don't think that makes them a horrible person at all.

While I do understand your point... there's still something off about it.
Bringing such a point up without anyone asking is just a big downer. It may ruin the mood on something that many other people might otherwise enjoy. It's totally fine to state such an opinion when asked for, no doubt about that. But you wouldn't go to a party and shout "I HATE ALCOHOL" so everyone in the room hears it. It just spreads a bad mood where it really shouldn't.

If you have an issue with it, you can either tell someone directly (as in: note); or even better, why don't you phrase your opinion in an open way where people would be able to get involved? Instead of saying: "I don't understand why/how people like this content, and I never will." - Just say: "I've always struggled to understand what is appealing about this kind of content, can someone explain it to me?"
Where is the difference you may ask?
Well: The first one is a finite statement. It's done and dusted. It makes you seem ignorant because you just wanted to voice your dislike and ruin the mood and be done with it. Plus it's an indirect insult to people a la "You guys are weird for liking this".
The second one however is more open for actual conversation, it shows that you *engage* with the content and at least you *try* to get a grasp of it even if you do not like it - or perhaps you do like it once it's been explained to you?

If you don't want to be open, that's fine, but then don't bother other people with it either. It's about social decency here. Don't ruin something for others only because it's not your personal taste. THAT is the issue.

The first example of going to a party doesn't make much sense. If your table has a ton of great drinks (good porn iyo) and someone suddenly breaks out alcohol and you state you don't like it to them, that is warranted.
I myself don't see much a difference in those two statements and I'll go on a limb here and say most others would agree.

A ton of people that are not actively furries find it weird or disgusting, right? That hasn't stopped us from enjoying this sort of content so why is a comment like that any different?
Work it out or don't. I'm not saying you're wrong in that people are dick heads for no reasons what so ever but I do think it's fair to at least try and sort it out before you jump to conclusions and outright deny them an option to apologize or clarify their statement.

Uhm... no, it makes sense, because in the counter example you have given, it should only be your concern if they offer it to you and directly approach you about it.
The art wasn't offered or directed at them, it was just *there*, and nowhere was it ever stated that something like that would ever happen.

Even though the meaning of those two statements is similar, the wording is the key difference here. Four sides model of communication: Factual Information, Self-relevation, Appeal and Relationship. If you break it down it's clear - especially in the self relevation and appeal parts.

It's a difference whether it comes from outside the community where this is (sadly) expected, or within the community where we want to get along. If we already have enough comments like these from the outside, we don't need them on the inside. That's the key difference here.
I do see your point in the "Apologizing or clarifying" department though, but I also understand that if it happens regularly (even if it's from different people), at some point you're just fed up with it. And if someone lacks the time and/or patience to deal with it, they don't have to. It's a tricky one.

I'm afraid I don't know anything about the link you placed in there and it's likely new information to most of us.

I understand being fed up with it too. No one likes shit piling up, especially shit that brings you down.
Fair to say I have never dealt with this since I don't have an artistic bone in my body so I'm not capable of placing myself in Nitro's shoes ... but I like to think I would give people a few chances before I got rid of their ability to speak with me.

I'm thankful for your insight on this too. It'll forever be interesting to me to hear how people think about these particular subjects.

not a good take from not understanding how it feels i think.

i am not saying you arent allowed to feel a certain way and in fact you are absolutely allowed to hate and have a disdain on something.
honestly people can hate the thing all day every day if they want. which is pretty miserable in itself, but ok.

but why on gods given earth would you take the time of your day, to click on my artwork and comment you dislike it? that's simply asinine. and for me its upsetting, making me pointlessly mad.

the artwork doesnt care if its hated, because the art is an unfeeling object. but i am not, and I made it. the connection between the art and artist is unseperable.

Completely understand where you're coming from.
I wouldn't take whatever the person said to heart. We're all full of our own opinions and sadly we can't always agree on everything.
I do hope that whatever bull shit gets thrown your way doesn't prevent you from continuing your work.

easier said than done. and honestly I wish it was that easy! but it's not.

but yeah okay, anyway. cheers

Not to up to date on the controversies of the fandom (besides people whining about feral on Twitter of course) but going off the comments it seems people complain about the gender of characters as well? What in the world…
I don’t understand why people leave comments of themes they don’t like let people draw what they want

it wasnt about these topics. i normally dont comment on it either. i wasnt cancelled for that stuff (yet)
i received the comment i quoted on my journal on a recent artpiece, colored sketch for itaris, of the hurt dragon.

but regardless, it's asinine point blank to comment these things.

I will never know why people cant just ignore it and move on. like its so easy isn't it? i see random content i dont enjoy often being pretty vanilla but i really dont care.. i just move on to the next art. so silly that people feel that need to put extra effort in to complain about it

Some people always feel like they have to complain when they see a theme that they don't like

Sad people also can't tell the difference between fiction and reality.

Just because you see fictional characters go at it, doesn't mean people in real life are like that as well. It's simply common sense.

I'm here for this choice of not accepting bs from plebs. Started hiding comments and blocking people with no explanation couple years ago and it's the best decision I ever made. Love to see it.
If it ain't your fancy, remove it from inbox notifications, or unwatch artist and leave. It is very easy to simply not say something that no one asked for and move the fk on. 👌👌👌👌👌

I don't understand why/how people like this content, and I never will

you don't have to understand, not everything is for you.

it's a diverse world out there, bud. Not everything you see will be tailor made for your interests. You gotta accept that different people like different things and just...move on :P

If you happen to be the same individual that left that comment then I'm sorry for whatever seems to be going on in your personal life because you're clearly searching for reasons for people to dislike you.
It's one thing to have an opinion and voice it on occasion but a completely different thing to continue jabbing at someone for seemingly no reason other than to annoy them.
Grow up, please.

Social media is designed to incentivize that exact kind of behavior.

Twitter has destroyed global civilization in a way no other invention of man ever has. The atomic bomb didn't fundamentally change the way people at large behave towards each other.

Politicians continue to care more about holding our rights hostage in lieu of stemming the tide that's already drowning us all. At this rate, we'll have to depublicize our internet personae, keeping within smaller friend circles the way the internet had before. And with the enshittification of Google and the decline of social media overall, that feels more and more inevitable.

I don't understand why/how people [feel the need to insert their unsolicited and unnecessary negativity], and I never will.

lol couldn't resist.

Seriously though, I get you. Any time I see one of those comments I'm like "OR... you could have just moved along" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I don't really understand the point of like... leaping into a space that likes a thing in order to vocally dislike it??? like... you're not gonna get any solidarity here buddy, this is the wrong place!!! If you gotta vent, find someplace that isn't actively an insult to the people around you to do it.

if you're otherwise legitimately at the point where attention from people being mad at you is somehow actually desire-able, then at the very least I pity you, but shitty circumstances aren't an excuse to make things shitty for other people.

I won't deny, I've made the mistake of venting in the wrong place before. Vore is a hazardous kink to explore if the safe content appeals but the harsher content scares. Actively voicing discomfort within an artist's space was not the right call when stumbling on things that discomforted me though, and I've at least since learned to never do that again. Intruding on someone else's / a community's space just to dump your displeasure like littered waste is exclusively a dick move.

I don't like this journal very much it's not about me

Thank you for this. Yes.