What’s with people these days?

I never really had any problems with incest shippings (least of all Judy and Jerry being a couple) especially given how common they are throughout the internet, just as long as all parties involved are legally adults (18 and up). People having a problem with it have the same kind of energy as people who claim that playing as an Axis Soldier in a WW2 video game promotes N@zism or liking curvy, attractive fictional characters like Eve from Stellar Blade or Hana Uzaki from the titular anime (no pun intended) {Uzaki-Chan wants to hang out’ somehow promotes “sexualizing minors”.

Personally, I say “projection is the most common form of admission”, people who make a big deal out these kind of things are more or less admitting that they themselves can’t separate fiction from reality and should honestly seek help in that case. Then again, I’m probably preaching to the choir.

people weren't THAT much disgusted by incest until the funny blue haired person with the cursed yellow pendant gave us all a reminder of how terrible it actually is, thus increasing the amount of people that do find it undesirable

I can only assume you've been being harassed. To which case, I hope things get better if you have been. Stories are stories and, as long as you're not writing anything illegal, then you should be fine.

I can handle mean words and nasty edits :3

I'll tell you on Discord because it's too gross to be discussed in public lol

That's good. On a side note, you're gonna have to tell me more about the world of Judy that you've been constructing. I've read some bits of it from your posts and really enjoyed it. Feel free to hmu on Discord (or here on FA but I can't promise a fast response) to help me learn more about.

-KG.

And just to be clear, I want to be childfree. I don't want kids. Childbirth scares me, lol.

Judge not lest ye be judged,

Yes, "Μη κρίνητε, ινα μη κριθήτε"

Arguably, one of the least observed laws by the followers of the scripture from which this quote has been taken. And by people in general; To be honest, I have caught myself in flagranti a lot of times not obeying this simple but good rule...

We've all been there.

If you're going to use that quote, please finish. Don't stop half way.

Why? The rest of that passage basically just repeats and emphasizes that line. It doesn't really add anything to the point as far as I can see.

Matthew 7;1-2
1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
It mean if we judge others, we are to judge righteously. We are to judge based on the word Of GOD(YHVH). It does not mean that we are not to judge at all. If your going to use it, please use it correctly.

The bible is widely open to interpretation. I interpret that passage as being a warning against judging others, because you can ALSO be judged. I don't see it as a justification for judging others. It seems to make my point clearly.

I also consider God to be a fiction created in our image, and often used by The Church to instill fear in us and manipulate us.

The idea of the Christian God being the one true interpretation of what "God" can be seems ridiculous to me.

Not to mention all of the pure evil and violence done and still being done in Christianity's name.

For sure. And also to remember our own flaws before judging others in this very rightful manner subjective to different interpretations of the Bible by different religious movements. "τι δε βλέπεις το κάρφος το εν τω οφθαλμώ του αδελφού σου, την δε εν τω σω οφθαλμώ δοκόν ου κατανοείς; " : P

Also consider that in James:12 it says “There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?”

There are many other bible verses that address this idea as well.

To be fair though, the bible is full of contradictory statements. If you want to, you can find something there to support almost anything.

Slavery was quite well justified by Bible's interpretation for quite a long time, so...

Diacritics to write vowels in Hebrew (niqqud) were invented not sooner than fifth century AD. Before that a lot of spellings were dependent from spoken tradition, which is naturally viable to changes. Thus when these diacritics were finally written, they were already in their own way a kind of interpretation. Than, translations from Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic are also very treacherous a lot of times and on themselves can provide completely different interpretations dependent on the choice of words made by a translator. Let's also consider that Jesus spoke his words in Aramaic, so anyway the "original" Greek koine text of new testament is already a translation of its kind made by the apostoles, who also weren't almost ideal "transitors" of Yehoshuah's words as if visible from multiple differences in their narrations. And, finally to apply different statements of Bible into practice, sometimes hardly properly understandable without historical context, also requires consensus and further interpretations. Then, naturally, there always will arise ambiguities, since not all the complicated situations in real life can be easily categorized, and thus arises a need for creation of an interpretator, a priest, an imam/qadi or rabin who will discern what is "right" and what is "wrong" based on his own limited knowledge and imperfect human perception. So, everything tranferred from the scriptures' prescription into reality is an interpretation of interpretations based on another interpretations. Why the only God would choose such a shaky way like written language to convey his commandments onto humanity is a great mystery to me.

Very well put.

To my understanding, the books of the new testament were all written after the death of Jesus, and therefore interpretations of what he may actually have said and done. It's unlikely that many if any of the writers actually knew him. Some of those texts were probably written a hundred years or more after his death. Those books weren't even chosen and collected into what we consider to be the bible until around 500 AD.

And since then, all of the bible has been further interpreted, for both good and bad, by almost only men with various entirely human agendas.

Because of this it strains credulity that this is the "True Word Of God", or of Jesus.

Any real idea of "God" is ultimately ineffable, and open to personal interpretation by each of us.

I find the bible to be a fascinating cultural artifact and collection of stories and allegories, no more. How could humans presume or hope to capture the true word of God, let alone what that may be? We're only human, after all.

Heh, it's completely relatable. There are, sadly, still a lot of people who seem not to understand that the line between fiction and reality can be crossed only when someone allows themself to cross it.

Meanwhile, I think, it's a very neat social role of imagination, that one can project their strange or kinky ideas onto paper, and even into some kind of art, instead of ejecuting them in reality. Such fetishesh, anyway, a lot of times shouldn't be taken too "literally".

(And probably I particularly have to be tolerant about others' kinks, because my own are also strange in a lot of ways lol).

Some people just like to be "moral defenders", perhaps it gives them some additional dynamic value to their life and a feeling of self-acomplishment in playing a particular "role". But life is not a crusade against anyone or anything to be so sensitive about the realms of someone else's imagination... : )

Sadly, we live in a world where people are labeled by others, without even knowing them.
For example, I have labeled you as a beautiful young lady, but I don't know you. I don't know if you're a lady, or a dominatrix who enjoys tormenting your bf\gf. None of my business.

She couldn't be both?

I can't argue with that, since I don't really know her. Only what she shares here, so she could be both, or neither.

While I doubt that she's a Domme, I do know that there's nothing inherently wrong with that, and that Dommes can be ladies.

I'm not lol

I would have been surprised...

It's one thing that I see a lot and it's people trying to assume anything fictional could happen in reality. Look, whatever you're into is your own can of worms. Dislike what you want but I don't expect people to jump onto other and think, "hurr durr, you're a <insert some dim-witted assumption here>".

Just because that person does said thing fictionally, doesn't mean that they have intentions of doing it, in real life. I have no problem with what people are into. It's just other people need to realize that it's not hurting them. It's just those people looking for a reason to sit and complain like manchildren and look for some reason to throw them in jail or worse.

What I'm saying is, I understand where you're coming from and I can relate to the situation. People can't go one second with someone sitting on the edge of their chair and throwing assumptions into the mix.

As a smut author here on FA, I HAVE to separate fiction from reality.
If someone wants me to write a story for them with some really questionable, but not illegal kinks, that's fine. Do I think they're a freak? No. I'm a freak, I like just about every kink in the book to some degree. Does that me wanna go out and inflate people with blueberry juice, tie them up in a basement and do lewd things to them, or some other questionable kink?
No
Not even to mention that most of them can't even be done because they're fictional ones, but those that could be done are just not in my wheel house to pursue. It's hot to read, but not fun to do.

Something like this I can agree with. Tenfold.

There's a distinct difference between fantasy and realty. There are plenty of things that can make great fantasies that would be impractical, unethical, impossible, or just not fun. Many of those fantasies are actually very common. There's nothing wrong with having fantasies. I can't imagine that many people don't.

Even then, people find some way to make it a problem and it's no more than just constant trolling or harassment. Unfortunately, not much we can really do. Ig we will never know what kind of agenda people have on others. To me, just seems like people will chase clout to get out there, even if it means wanting to be the first in line or at the top of the food chain. Whether we like it or not, there's just people out there that can't see that fine line between fiction and reality.

Agreed. Hence my talking above about not judging others. Kinkshaming is wrong, and immature. Everyone has their fantasies and kinks. There's nothing wrong with that.

There's a very basic rule; if you don't like something, instead of complaining or hassling someone, just move on.

No doubt I'm preaching to the choir here, though.

Much obliged!

A prime example is a story I just got commed for. The kink is illegal, but we both know it's fiction. Even then, smut is smut. Are we about to stop famous authors like Janet Evanovich from writing about crimes and illegal activity? Probably not anytime soon. Know why? Because it's entertaining and we all know it's not really happening.
What if Chuck Tingle (wild example) included it? Again, fantasy, for fun, not real.

I know it's an old topic now but I just had to add this bit

Even then it really isn't hurting anyone other than someone's pride. People act like this is gonna get pushed onto others and that'll be when people get a posse of people just to troll or harass that person either off the internet or out of existence. Either way, whatever people are into should really be bothersome to others. Most will just contradict about what kinds of kinks/fetishes they're into but that same person that points it out isn't much of a saint if that person is into it. If people don't like it and persist on bullying that person by telling them to remove it, why not just exclude it from your feed and move on?

I don't know what's with people these days but I sure as hell could care less what people think negatively about me or what I'm into. Of course, draw the line in which you know not to cross. Just wish people would take realization in that.

Very well articulated ^^

Good luck with that. There will always be moral grandstanders and trolls.

For decades, the Internet's criteria for media analysis boiled down to "everything I don't like is shit and everyone who likes it is also shit".

At some point in the 2010s, this was no longer acceptable, so the ones who perpetuated it in the first place realize they could keep it alive for a little while longer if they transformed it into something similar. Now it was "everything I don't like is oppressive and harmful to society, and everyone who likes it is, for all intents and purposes, a bad person" (both of these were encapsulated into the word "problematic").

Keep that up for long enough and in the faces of enough young, inexperienced, impressionable people, and you've got your antishippers.

People on the internet forget not everything is real and always want to complain about something, do your thing, If they hate you or the topics this bad then they should go away.

Every fandom has weirdos I remember some of them are jacking off on my characters I drawn. One of them was jerking off from my jackal character Delphine Maximus.

I don't think I had people wank to my stuff probably because I'd assume is not appealing or just doesn't look good. I wouldn't be surprised if proven otherwise.

This happened at furry animo before I got permanently banned. I called him out by calling him a creep then boom banned.

Bruh. Some people, I swear. So much for speaking the truth, y'know?

as someone else said here, its a tame thing compared to more extreme things such as violent acts in the bedroom being normalized. plus at the core of it the whole thing in general is more about the thrill of taboos and playing with certain power dynamics and so on.

plus people today use mommy and daddy / babygirl babybooy in the bedroom or in the relationships in general and thats pretty damn closse to being incest territory.

This shouldnt be a problem for adults that can separate their life from their fantasy.

I can relate to what you've been going through. Despite the fact that I remind people that what I do is entirely fictional, but based on real life events, I still somehow get labeled as something I am not, even when such people have never met me in person. It's been going on for 10-14 years for me.

Honestly it does feel like a lot of people are unable to distinguish fantasy from the real world nowadays, when when the reasons of such are verbally explained or written down for others to take notice. Somehow, someone is always gonna be offended despite the material is merely for the artist's entertainment or for storytelling.