I refuse to die before that rotten orange bitch dies. I will survive, and I beg everyone (except his supporters) to survive as well. We must live through this. We must not let him win. WE MUST SEE HIM FALL.

i'd take that but i would also love to see the entire political class fall. neither dems nor republicans have the interests of the proletariat in their minds--their main goal is to facilitate the accumulation of capital and nothing else.

The Democrats try to play so fucking 'safe' yet can't even do that right.

i don't think i buy that they play it safe, i think they sincerely campaign for the positions they believe in. they really, really don't mind anything that's happening or will happen as long as people who don't show fealty to the republicans or democrats are made to suffer and die

such a typical radical political leaning post

man i'm sorry but politics concerns your entire material reality. you cannot afford to disengage.

Already got some plans: mutual aid, community defense.
Already in an Element group discussing these things. I can give you a link/invite if you want.

that's what i like to see. i don't know what element is, though

It's basically Federverse Discord.

i'll look into it, but if the invite does not expire you can send me a note with it and i may join eventually

https://matrix.to/#/#redpawcollective:matrix.org
I know it says Matrix. No need to worry about that - that's just the name of the server; it's still at Element.

While I agree with the democrats fuck ups, I can't ignore that we are not saying anything about the people on the 3rd party and the free palestine side. I understand why but people where telling beging for them to listen to their reasoning for why they needed to vote blue, but they ignored it and stil voted for Jill Stine and the other people, WHICH ended turning out that not only she dropped out, but is a zonist and Trump even complmented her. The democrats deserved all the criticism they get, but 3rd party and free palestine people sadly played a part in this massive down fall. All because they don't want to vote for the "lesser of two evils" and still voted someone who was just as bad.
I have mentioned it before but no single politician was ever going to not be a problem, we have to force then to get their shit together. There was never ever any "better choice" just only the obvious choice we have to begrudgingly chose or get screwed over.

they played no part. you are excusing the inaction of democrats and a genocide to punch down on a number of voters insufficient to turn any state in kamala's favor. if you're here to excuse genocide, then i do not want to associate with you.

I lost a bit of my faith in humanity when Trump was elected the first time. I don't even want to begin explaining how I feel about it this time.

shit sucks, but we are closer to a bright future than ever even so. we must survive.

It's hard to be optimistic at this time, so thank you. Progress doesn't always happen at once and it's often set back. Don't forget the us also elected it's first trans congress person as well, lots of state constitutional amendments too, New York even explicitly protects trans people in its constitution now

the trans congressperson is a zionist unfortunately but it *is* a step. we are at a low point of our movement, but the next rise shall be greater than the one before

How could we possibly be close to a bright future with that man in The White House?

i personally turn to the words of lenin regarding climbing mountains (and, metaphorically, the non-linearity of progress) https://nonsite.org/on-ascending-a-high-mountain/

It's gonna take a whole lot. I'm mostly shredding out my frustrations with my electric guitar

it will take a lot, but we'll get there. it isn't a mere possibility--it is inevitable

The last thing I want to see is anarchy.

This is no longer just simply politics. It's a race against evil.

Wishing you and all my American friends the best for the next few years. Hopefully the orange cretin dies of a heart attack before too long.

ever feel like both sides keep further radicalizing each other?
as a european hearing snippets through memes if feels like america is ready to tear itself apart every election cycle

it's the natural conclusion of fascism. it creates its own enemies--that is, people like me. communists, socialists, anarchists. the contradictions stack higher and higher, and the number of people who see where this is heading increases continually until either the system falls or is taken over. materialism at work

have you considered that the word fascism and fascist have lost their meaning because its being overused?
same with the word nazi.

I have a feeling that the republican party isn't trying to make an american 3rd reich. (I know. exagurating a bit but its to get the point across)

looking at the situation there's an extreme fearmongering from the democratic party and the political left in america. I know it might be stupid to say it but this is trumps 2nd term. did everyone forget the 1st term didn't end with america burning to the ground or the formation of an american 3rd reich?

ohhh, wow you are not very well-informed huh

Bait. Left/Right struggles apply globally, Europe is a hotbet of xenophobia and unaddressed bigotry to Central and Eastern Europeans (for starters).

Also nobody ever "pushed someone to become more Right Wing", because the genesis of those situations is when a RW person says something appalling and when criticized, they plead "woe I am being silenced by the woke mob, I guess I need to become more bloodthirsty to prove a point". It doesn't work when you apply it to the real world.

The Ratcheting Effect applies to the Overton Window for Dems, it's no longer feigning a $1.5T infrastructure bill or student debt forgiveness as a means to trick a voter base. Their support for military operations and keeping corporate donors happy will be their campaign from now on. They aren't even bothering keeping their unpopular support hidden, they're being more honest with how cooked the system is.

it sucks but at the very least the mask has fallen

I will be completely honest here: In addition to being Autistic, I align as being DEM myself.
Though a Conservative DEM seems to be more exact, Based on a survey i took.

I have seen REPs leave their party because of Trump's Actions, Extremism and other Factors.
Though I'm not sure i believe the whole "throwing the election by pandering to the very narrow margin of republicans that wouldn't vote for trump but adore the cheneys" thing.

In my mind, It really seemed like the DEM party was promoting some truly great things leading up to the election.
I honestly saw some great potential in the possible presidency that could have been.
Though i suppose in all fairness, They did sort of dig themselves a tough hole to get out of with Biden's age and disapproval rating.
And by the time Biden withdrew, It may have been too late to further improve their standings.

However, I highly doubt it is entirely a 'Voter' problem.
Because there is something great that has somehow gone under the radar during the whole election.

For some time now, We were warned that Russia would interfere with our elections.
So many of us had heard this said.
And not just this year, But in 2020 and 2016, Which both featured Trump as well.

But when i say 'something great' in this context, I don't just mean that the Russian Government REALLY interfered in the Elections.

Fellas, Donald Trump is a secret agent working for Russia.
And given the fact that he was reported to have a secret Chinese bank account back in 2020, It's possible he may also be working for China in some way as well.
Despite whatever else he may say about them.

This, I'm afraid, Is not some rumor or a 'woke conspiracy theory' as Trump and his Idiot servants like to call it.
This is confirmed/backed by former-FBI director Robert Mueller.

He has stated that Russia helped steal the 2016 election for Trump from Hillary Clinton.

What proof do we have to know if that's right?

How else would you explain the lopsided nature of the 2016 election?
Where Clinton won the popular vote fairly comfortably, But lost the electoral college to Trump, Despite Clinton being favored to win during that year?

The Russians clearly knew where to concentrate their election stealing efforts.
Not just Florida, But States like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa and Ohio. States that were forecasted throughout the year as being Leaning or Likely Democratic for Clinton.
The Russians knew that by targeting these states, With their combined electoral votes, It would give Trump the win.
Oh yeah, And of course there was the 'Email' Scandal, Which was a setup created by the Russian government.

Then we saw what happened during his first Term.

Another form of proof might be the way he cozied up to Dictators like Putin, Kim Jung-Un and Xi Jinping.
The way he handled COVID and somehow knew it came from China.
Or, Perhaps the first big hint of his status as a Secret Russian Agent?: His denial of his eventual 2020 election loss, And his attempts to subvert it.
Which then lead to January 6th.

I will say, Even though i'm sure Russia tried to interfere in 2020 as well, I am glad that enough people voted to counter any attempt at stealing they may have made.

Then of course came the period between that election and this one.
One notable occurrence was the mishandled documents, Which obviously could have compromised national security (and probably has, to be honest. Who knows how long he had them for or what he did when nobody outside his mar-a-lago residence was looking).
But the most telling sign of his status as a Secret Russian Agent was his promise to 'be a dictator on day one'.
Because how is Russia governed? By a dictator.

Even more damning was this apparent plot by the REPs to steal the election, Which surfaced at some point during this year.
Evidently another sign/opportunity that Russia would help to steal the election.
Which they obviously did, But on an apparently greater scale than in 2016.

It is clear to me that they've somehow subverted enough votes, At least those counted electronically, To steal the election.
Now, I believe it is POSSIBLE that if the votes were counted by hand, We may see Harris did in fact win.
Whether or not a recount will happen is another story, Though i believe it SHOULD happen.
Because i've seen these occurrences as being really fishy.
Especially when Harris, Much like Clinton in 2016, Was favored to win.
HELL, Even legendary historian Allan Lichtman predicted a Harris Win!
And i believed him, Because out of 42 years of predicting electoral winners with his unique 13 key system, He only got ONE election wrong.
That was 2000, with Bush v Gore.
Although Bush won, He notes that Gore should have won Florida but they stopped the vote (re)count before it was totally finished.
And it only went to bush by a couple hundred votes.

Otherwise that prediction would have been spot on as well.

For Harris, He had given up to 8 out of 13 keys in her favor in his prediction that she would Win.
This was based on a number of factors they he took note of. (If you're wondering what they were, You can look it up).
And he says that anything under 7 keys, And he would have predicted her loss.

Yet, We see what happened.
And i believe it to be a huge sign that Russia helped steal this election from Harris, As they did in 2016 for Trump v Clinton.
Plus the fact that i've watched this video on "Operation Trump: Russian Spies Conquer America", I think these are truly great signs that Trump must be a Secret agent working for the Russian Government.
Because Russia knows that if we saw them attacking on a more Visible scale, We would have retaliated.

Now, Thanks to Russia's Efforts, They're more-or-less forcing us to accept another Trump Presidency.
And probably with the intent of softening us up, Before they take us down.

In summary: I don't blame the DEMs for the situation we're now in.
At least, Not the party as a whole.
I really do think that despite the circumstances that played out with Biden dropping out, And other stuff that happened, They really seem like they tried to get Kamala elected.
I really did sense great potential, And it really seemed like they ran a great Campaign.

But it seems Russia has succeeded in stealing the election.
Something that had unfortunately gone under the radar during the whole election.
I don't blame anyone if they are surprised by this occurrence, And feel like pointing fingers at certain people.

Oh yeah, And we might get Project 2025 shoved down our throats.

man i think it's less complicated than the essay you wrote. the 2024-2028 presidency would be rough for whoever took office no matter what because the check is coming due very soon for the US's kicking the can down the road of important economic and health issues like COVID (which, mind you, the government made almost no mention of during the last 4 years, but SOMEHOW the literal day after the election the masks started showing up in their infographics and they started actually warning people about bird flu) and climate disaster. the biden administration's policy was effectively the exact same as trump's in 2016 because they committed to change nothing--to a group of donors, in the race for 2020, biden said "nothing will fundamentally change."

the map for biden's potential electoral map looked like this, before they swapped him out for kamala: https://i.postimg.cc/8zVLDyGc/map.jpg *this* is the map that they found *acceptable.* the only reason they swapped him out was because people were getting vocal that he couldn't possibly win. then, kamala gets in and has a good week or two of enthusiasm and populism before she slides into conservatism and campaigning with liz cheney--yknow, a woman who was *personally* responsible for killing actual millions of people and who only about 15% of people in the US as a whole (not necessarily even in the group of people who voted!) even vaguely like. her advisors were *begging* her to ditch cheney because "no one wants to be in coalition with the devil" and kamala's team just told them to fuck off. the polling showed that there were a ton of popular issues like an arms embargo of israel with over 60% approval and a permanent ceasefire with around 80% approval overall, but kamala simply ran on 'joy' and 'following the law.' when asked if she supported trans people, she simply said "i think we should follow the law" which definitely is bad considering there are plenty of anti-trans laws on the books in the US. she sent bill clinton to DEARBORN to SCOLD ARAB VOTERS and tell them their relatives deserved to die at israel's hands for the US's maintenance of global hegemony.

kamala could not change course because she is a capitalist owned and paid for by billionaires. her one role is to keep capital flowing upwards to the rich, and she conceded BEFORE THE VOTES WERE EVEN DONE COUNTING after calling trump a dangerous fascist the whole race because trump would just do the same thing, so to her employers there's no difference. she's rich, so none of the coming bullshit will affect her personally much at all, so she doesn't have to care. her campaign also made over a billion dollars in donations and somehow ended up $20 million in debt which stinks of money laundering to me, especially with the enormous paychecks of the hillary-era advisors whose job it is to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

her immediate concession finally convinced me: she lost on purpose. she intentionally threw the race with the idea that most people will go to the polls, check who the current president is, remember that they don't like the price of eggs, and vote against the incumbent party, and the price of eggs was going to skyrocket no matter what. it would be entirely likely that, due to the imminent collapse over the next 4 years regardless of the presidency, that her team and her advisors especially made the cynical calculation that whoever wins next will lose the election after, and letting people suffer for 4 years while also getting to move to the right in the "readjustment" following your loss? tantalyzing if you're rich. you get to hate the poor even more openly and the most boneheaded liberals in the country will follow along while personally calling ICE to deport latine americans and crossing every picket line they can out of spite for the leftists who told them, correctly, that the genocidal policy endorsed by kamala would get them a loss. russia didn't have to do much more than call in some bomb threats into some poll centers to get enough politically-detached liberals to give up going to the polls and go back to brunch instead and even then i'm not sure they had enough impact to significantly change the result. kamala would have lost regardless.

I'll respect your opinion and all, Even though i think you'll be wrong on a number of things.
Plus i can't help but feel like you are being conditioned to believe something that MIGHT (maybe not fully, But might) be wrong.

Just as Donald Trump is conditioning people in his party to believe in something that is so clearly a lie.
And we see what happens as a result.

But i'll still stand by my Beliefs on things.

i do not appreciate the insinuation you're making with the conditioning comment.

I will say as well, If it offers any potential comfort/bright side: Trump could possibly change his mind about being president.
He could still go to prison despite having begged for immunity.
AND, He could potentially die.

Because he clearly has Dimentia, He also likely has these other health issues he won't tell anyone.
PLUS, Someone could successfully assassinate him, And not just make an attempt at it.

Point is, We should always try to hold on to some hope, Even when things are so dark.

why did those gun-wielding dipshits have to miss...