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Time for a random British rant that is.. very niché really.
I'll have to start with some minor explaining..
back in 1976, Ronnie Barker, a highly popular British comedy actor and writer stared in a show 'Open All Hours' created and written by Roy Clarke. The Premise of the show was Arkwright (Ronnie Barker) was a middle-old cheapskate who ran a small grocer's shop in the suburb of Doncaster. He was either trying to make some money by partly conning customers (some minor recurring ones, or some one-off ones), or dealing with his nephew/Errand Boy who tries to improve his social life and date girls, while Arkwright is always chasing local traveling nurse Gladys Emmanuel.
simple enough, fine. In 2013, Roy Clarke did 'Still Open All Hours'. now.. It was meant to be a continuation of the original show. Ronnie Barker had died so his character died, with the now old Granville (the Nephew) running the shop, his.. I think son, Nurse Gladys regularly visiting and keeping an eye on Granville and a couple of regular customers returned.. and it was crap.
now.. techinally, you could say 'Oh, but it ran for longer then the original show'.. maybe.. so what? doesn't mean anything. There has been more episodes of Knightrider AFTER the original show, but they haven't really been a hit now, have they?
I'm gonna explain why it is crap, even to people who love it. It's very simple.. what the hell IS the show? Lets say it's a continuation. It makes sense for it to be that. Still features the shop, All but 1 main character, but the problem comes from the fact that a continuation should keep the same basic premise of what the show is.. I think you could get rid of a the main character of Arkwright even though he is a huge focus. So the show is about a cheapskate owner of a small grocer's shop either trying make some money from the customers and people around, or dealing with his maybe son who is trying to improve his social life and date girls... Nope.. atleast HALF of the show is in fact about random people who live in the street and the show revolves around them more then the Store and it's owner.
So... It's not a Continuation. So It's a spin-off? a Spin-off is where you take a character or concept from a show and make a new show around that. The main example is where you take a character and put them in a new situation in a new show. But then, as a spin-off, it's crap.. cause it's too focused on the original show. Its what is meant to be the original shop, most of the original main cast, SOME of the original premise.. Not enough to be a continuation but too much to be a spin-off... so it's.. greatly flawed. The show has more in common with another Roy Clarke show 'Last of the Summerwine' which was about a whole bunch of people in a village (though it was meant to be basically about a few old people but early on had other stuff so its fine).
So, maybe the show has to be accepted on it's own merits as it's own show? But you can't do that cause even the title 'Still Open All Hours' is trying to show it's STILL the old show, and there is too much connection for it to stand on it's own feet.
Was it successful? most likely. Doesn't mean it's any good as what it is trying to be. I see some films that do really well, which are meant to be based on books or comics or games, and they are SOO far removed, it's an insult.. people say "Oh, but it's great and you got to accept it for it's own thing".. but it's NOT meant to be it's own thing. There is a reason they pay the money to license it. In the old days, some films brought the rights to a book, just cause it was popular and they wanted to use the name, but had no intent on making anything like it. So try to get the fan base from the source, and all the credit which comes from it, so they want you to connect the two things. Making it pointless to try to say you have to treat it as it's own thing. cause it soo isn't.
It reminds me of one of the biggest insults (well.. maybe not) the USA did to a video game. I love the Fatal Frame games (well.. 1 and 2 are the best, 3 is good but the character flipping starts to take you out of the story but keeps it tight enough to work, the 4th had SOO much flipping that I just couldn't get into it as much as the first 3, and the 5th I haven't played cause it was a Wii U exclusive game (which cause the Wii U was a crap flop, they did release on PC but only on Steam, so I can't get it).. Oh and the 3DS game isn't too bad but has hardware issues (poor lighting for the camera). Now, the game series is infact' Zero'.. the US renamed it 'Fatal Frame' and personally, I think the name is better.. Zero doesn't really mean too much (though one of the camera shots you can take is referred to as a 'zero shot') where Fatal Frame subs up the series nicely.. Ghost attacks, dangerous, you use a Camera to take photos to defeat them. and later they added the 'Fatal Frame' shot into the games. (I've talked about the naming issue elsewhere). But for some stupid reason, they felt for the original game, it should have the large tagline 'Based on a true story' to help sell it.. It was crap made up by the yanks. True, all the games are based on the kinda local folklore rumours and stories around, and the mansion was inspired by a real life place but that's it. It is in no way based on a true story.. So they were insulting the players and the game makers to try to say the game would only sell on that merit.. ah.. soo good with the name change, crap with the tagline..
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I'll have to start with some minor explaining..
back in 1976, Ronnie Barker, a highly popular British comedy actor and writer stared in a show 'Open All Hours' created and written by Roy Clarke. The Premise of the show was Arkwright (Ronnie Barker) was a middle-old cheapskate who ran a small grocer's shop in the suburb of Doncaster. He was either trying to make some money by partly conning customers (some minor recurring ones, or some one-off ones), or dealing with his nephew/Errand Boy who tries to improve his social life and date girls, while Arkwright is always chasing local traveling nurse Gladys Emmanuel.
simple enough, fine. In 2013, Roy Clarke did 'Still Open All Hours'. now.. It was meant to be a continuation of the original show. Ronnie Barker had died so his character died, with the now old Granville (the Nephew) running the shop, his.. I think son, Nurse Gladys regularly visiting and keeping an eye on Granville and a couple of regular customers returned.. and it was crap.
now.. techinally, you could say 'Oh, but it ran for longer then the original show'.. maybe.. so what? doesn't mean anything. There has been more episodes of Knightrider AFTER the original show, but they haven't really been a hit now, have they?
I'm gonna explain why it is crap, even to people who love it. It's very simple.. what the hell IS the show? Lets say it's a continuation. It makes sense for it to be that. Still features the shop, All but 1 main character, but the problem comes from the fact that a continuation should keep the same basic premise of what the show is.. I think you could get rid of a the main character of Arkwright even though he is a huge focus. So the show is about a cheapskate owner of a small grocer's shop either trying make some money from the customers and people around, or dealing with his maybe son who is trying to improve his social life and date girls... Nope.. atleast HALF of the show is in fact about random people who live in the street and the show revolves around them more then the Store and it's owner.
So... It's not a Continuation. So It's a spin-off? a Spin-off is where you take a character or concept from a show and make a new show around that. The main example is where you take a character and put them in a new situation in a new show. But then, as a spin-off, it's crap.. cause it's too focused on the original show. Its what is meant to be the original shop, most of the original main cast, SOME of the original premise.. Not enough to be a continuation but too much to be a spin-off... so it's.. greatly flawed. The show has more in common with another Roy Clarke show 'Last of the Summerwine' which was about a whole bunch of people in a village (though it was meant to be basically about a few old people but early on had other stuff so its fine).
So, maybe the show has to be accepted on it's own merits as it's own show? But you can't do that cause even the title 'Still Open All Hours' is trying to show it's STILL the old show, and there is too much connection for it to stand on it's own feet.
Was it successful? most likely. Doesn't mean it's any good as what it is trying to be. I see some films that do really well, which are meant to be based on books or comics or games, and they are SOO far removed, it's an insult.. people say "Oh, but it's great and you got to accept it for it's own thing".. but it's NOT meant to be it's own thing. There is a reason they pay the money to license it. In the old days, some films brought the rights to a book, just cause it was popular and they wanted to use the name, but had no intent on making anything like it. So try to get the fan base from the source, and all the credit which comes from it, so they want you to connect the two things. Making it pointless to try to say you have to treat it as it's own thing. cause it soo isn't.
It reminds me of one of the biggest insults (well.. maybe not) the USA did to a video game. I love the Fatal Frame games (well.. 1 and 2 are the best, 3 is good but the character flipping starts to take you out of the story but keeps it tight enough to work, the 4th had SOO much flipping that I just couldn't get into it as much as the first 3, and the 5th I haven't played cause it was a Wii U exclusive game (which cause the Wii U was a crap flop, they did release on PC but only on Steam, so I can't get it).. Oh and the 3DS game isn't too bad but has hardware issues (poor lighting for the camera). Now, the game series is infact' Zero'.. the US renamed it 'Fatal Frame' and personally, I think the name is better.. Zero doesn't really mean too much (though one of the camera shots you can take is referred to as a 'zero shot') where Fatal Frame subs up the series nicely.. Ghost attacks, dangerous, you use a Camera to take photos to defeat them. and later they added the 'Fatal Frame' shot into the games. (I've talked about the naming issue elsewhere). But for some stupid reason, they felt for the original game, it should have the large tagline 'Based on a true story' to help sell it.. It was crap made up by the yanks. True, all the games are based on the kinda local folklore rumours and stories around, and the mansion was inspired by a real life place but that's it. It is in no way based on a true story.. So they were insulting the players and the game makers to try to say the game would only sell on that merit.. ah.. soo good with the name change, crap with the tagline..
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