How can WTO be associated with New Age?
That feels like you're getting poop on my peanut butter, and I don't think I like a poop reese's poop cups :(

This is the opposite of not-caring and caring for it-- it's caring agaisnt it D:

He shoves some new age stuff in the end for no real reason :P

Old debunked conspiracy theories say wut?

I think you'd actually have to know what the theories are in order to make such a claim :P

The zodiac, 2012, water fluoridation, new world order, government/corporate cabals behind every single bad thing that happens in the world, etc. It's all the same stuff that gets repeated ad nausem with no evidence (so they're not even worthy to be called "theories", really) besides Mandelbrot background effects.

dont forget the fema coffins and how apparently all freemasons are evil or about reptialians. some of the people who think that shut up should just commit suicide. all they do is confuse the shit out of everyone

Usually it's people trying to come up with an explanation for why life isn't all rosy and stuff, and everything has to be controlled by some evil force; even if proven wrong, they press on with their wacky explanations, tying more and more unrelated stuff together. Otherwise, they lose control over the little world they've constructed for themselves.

im pretty shure thats why christians have god and hate athiests. if life isent rosy you fix yourself. thats just like the fat people who eat at mcdonalds every year for 10 years and then try to sue them.

Pretty much, yeah.

how many bodies does your plastic coffin hold?

I understand that it is very strange and unlikely that so many cultures would all mark 2012 (among other things) as being important. It's very odd, but there's nothing one can do about the passage of time.

I personally believe that there is validity for much of the New Age spirituality. Its mainly "trust" based, but I can't logically contemplate all of the universe without it.

This does not mean however, that there is validity within all things New Age. And 2012 is one of those things. It is mearly a pop culture phenomena made popular recently by the promotion of global warming theory and environmentalism. Yes it played a part in the Mayan calendar. But many prophecies of doom by religious organizations have been made in the past (even by those currently considered reputable, such as the Jehovah's Witnesses' claims of the rapture occurring in 1920, among other dates), and I don't seem to recall many of them panning out.

I side with Neil deGrasse Tyson, while yes, it is crazy that on Dec. 21st, 2012, the Sun, Earth, and the Center of the Galaxy will be perfectly aligned (a major fact quoted on 2012 websites)... It does that EVERY Dec. 21st.

Sorry Maf, I'll believe in 2012 when it happens.

The premise of the vid is that 2012 is important solely because we and those in power believe should be.

Huh. I'm going to be honest... It's a two hour video... And really I'm not THAT interested...

If what you say is true (and I don't want to doubt you), then the video is claiming that 2012 is more of a manifestation of public fear feeding upon itself, yes?

Well, that's basically the entire point of propaganda; to create an idea in the public conscious which causes the public to continue promoting the original idea... Soooo yeah.

I mean it's an interesting idea, but really that's been the "New Media" way of getting ideas out there, hasn't it? By spreading fear first, and information second?

The modern individual has a lot coming at them every waking second, much more so than generations past. They've got to grab you somehow, and it just so happens they choose fear, because it's easy to spark with the simple notion of the unknown.

Thats why I love economics, and why I picked it as my major.

Besides all of the standard monetary policy understanding and resource distribution theories, it is the only science I know of which says "Everything's going to be ok! How do I know? I have graphs!"

And as such, whenever I see fear-mongering of any kind (racial tensions, global warming, wars), I don't really care. Because I know that the invisible hand of the market has consistently guided us to safety. Sometimes it takes a little prodding, but damn does it solve problems.

dont tell me you believe that conspiracy crap those people have no idea what they are talking about

Believing some theories does not necessitate believing all theories.

that is very true but some of them are just so out there

Yes some of them are out there, but it's not fair to lump them all together. After all many have been confirmed in recent history.

as long as you arent a reptilian

o.o very elaborate conspiracy theory... he says dont trust mainstream news but uses cnn msnbc cba abc news.... but here's something. anyone can join the freemasons. i've looked. and how will bovine growth horomone and whatnot cause malnutrition? and the fluoride? OXYGEN is a VERY deadly toxin if exposed to too much. hell, that's what happened with the rats and TAB soda. nothing but TAB for breakfast lunch and dinner, force fed em. then they died. oooooo... but on the slim chance this might happen, we wont follow it! yeah, let the soldiers, fellow human beings, mow US citizens down. american children, friends, family members. see who follows orders. also, where in the world does Obama fit into this? o.o have MUSLIM half BLACK! in no way is he "illuminati" bloodline. lots of holes, and i bet if you go through his "references" he didnt reference everything and alot of it is probably misinterpreted.

The thing with videos like this is that you really have to sift through a lot of crap to find the little tidbits that are worth noting.

If you're not aware factory farmed foods tend to have much lower nutrition than properly produced foods. Vegetables grown on depleted soil for example have 1/10th the nutrients humans need and most farmland is sustained through fertilizers rather than on nutrient rich soil. Boving growth hormone increases the growth of the cow, but it also causes them to develop cancers and the increased growth speed substantially reduces the protein density of the meat. The most common diseases in the US and developed world for example are actually the result of malnutrition.

I'm actually curious about the fluoride stuff because I haven't seen any studies done since the 1940's on the health benefits of the stuff. Though I'm sure there's some out there. I'll probably look some up at some point.

oh here's a tip, the pictures of teeth during the fluoride stuff? that's from having braces and not brushing! i should know, i have little holes like that.

There is so much I want to say in response to this.

First of all, I know that I need Prozac because the way I felt before I was ever on ANYTHING matches the way I feel when I'm off the Prozac. And that is not a way I enjoy feeling. It is also a very dangerous way to be feeling--I have done the most harm, both to myself and others, when off it.

I can accept that SOME anger is born from fear, but not all. For example, while watching the video I was also trying to build a specific object with legos. Every time the pieces separated due to the pressure I was inadvertently exerting on them, I became infuriated. Like, I-want-to-kill-someone infuriated. You COULD argue that that was born from the fear of failure...but that doesn't feel right to me. It felt more like the universe was denying me of what I wanted--as opposed to taking it away.

Third, there's a logical fallacy. He's telling us to NOT believe anything anyone else says...but that includes him. How am I supposed to disbelieve everything if that includes the idea that I should disbelieve everything? I know I'm oversymplifying, but I believe my logic is sound.

Fourth, I have trouble with what he's telling me on a personal, emotional level. I have ALWAYS desired supernatural powers--or, at the very least, proof that supernatural things exist. Not evidence, PROOF. And he is telling me that I can access such a realm--if I only give up every concept I have about the way the world works. But if the laws of physics do not apply, then neither do the quantifiers that make something supernatural. So, essentially, I can never have what I've always wanted.

Besides all of that, he pissed me off when he claimed that global warning is not an actual threat. I have seen its effects IN MY LIFETIME. FIRSTHAND. I KNOW it's a legitimate threat.

So all of my ideas are based on things that other people have told me. But that's all there is. I can't accept that a single human being, having no information given to it, having no one else to learn from, could survive in even a natural world. I just can't.

Why are conspiracy theories referred to as new age beliefs? My definition of new age is Deep Breakfast by Ray Lynch :)

Conspiracy theories are often mixed in with new age beliefs. They're not actually connected :P

well, I have something to look at :P