It might also be a good thing that you like guys too. :v

Guys ain't perfect either ;p

I know, but at least most of them won't ask about dresses, or care if you imply they are fat. :b

Pretty much.

How dare you say that! I'm am lovingly curvaceous! *limpwrists* BC

Though there is a thing called 'dressing for success'. You shouldn't not care about how you dress just because you're a guy.
I get the point of all this though, but ya know, we all have to hate someone right?

Pff ;3 You know there are exceptions ;3 *flaunts*

Now you see I'd be tempted to say "no you're just fat" to simply prove a point. I girl only looks fat in a dress if she is actually fat (no offence intended at any females reading).

If a girl looks fat in a dress it is becuase she is actually fat (no offence intended at any females reading).

Sweet Jesus my grammar is appalling today.

I do think some clothes tend to make the figure look wider or thinner. Like an optical illusion type thing.

Oh I know, it's just that the girls that have asked me that sort of question a quite skinny "no you look the complete opposite of fat in that dress".

I get this all the time but i dont even get time to answer. Se just assumes that i don't like it and i offend her spontaneously

It's easier when you're the brother instead of the boyfriend. You can just do a give and take complement (It looks good, but it does show this area a bit too much....)

My sister doesn't seem to like when I criticize her outfits :P

Neither does mine ._.

When she's buying them or when she asks you opinion when she's leaving the house? With the latter, just playing dumb is a best bet.

I just outright say "This is a trap question, but you look fine."

It's the hesitation that gets me. Any pause, no matter how small, immediately translates to an insult.

Fucking women, how do they work?

They're more complex than magnets I assure you.

"Fucking magnets, how do they work?"

I never understood that either. Why does it really matter if you look fat or not? It's bad enough that your taking an hour to get ready (no offense to the ladies out there). Now you're asking me if you look fat in a dress that took you this long to pick out?

And what if she does? You can't tell her the truth because then you'll never hear the end of it. That is what I don't get. I try to be respectful and honest to women. But it's kind of hard when they bite your head off for something so meaningless. Right now I'm glad I'm single too so I don't have to put up with that kind of trash.

There's rules on this stuff? *is oblivious to sexual matters*

This is one of the really basic rules too :P

"Does this dress make me look fat?"
"Uhm.. no not fat, just horizontal challanged"

Sry had to <_< I don't get girls either sometimes

It's mostly because a girl or woman doesn't want to have her clothes not matching. It has to look nice and presentable, hence the ''does it make me look fat'' question. If it were to make her look fat, it's a no go, because weight can be a bit of a touchy subject. And that's not only the case for females, males can have that too.
If a female were to ask it, and it does make her look fat, try to be as honest as you can, and present some ideas about what might work. ^^

And I never knew I could understand these things, hehe.

I'd just answer yes if it did. Why lie? Id rather a dude ask me if his pants make his junk look big X3

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE POLITE 8C

Well, lying isn't polite though. You can politely tell them that the dress makes them look fat

*Ponder* Thought you were gay, too?

MAYBE I AM I dunno lol.

*Facepalm* xD PICK A SIDE OR IN THE MIDDLE, DAMMIT.

Hey, it's a big thing. No point in revving it up if it's got nowhere to go l3

But it's so much easier to not make a decision :C

*Commits violence upon* :EEE IS IT EASIER NOW?!

WHAT DO YOU WANT OF ME :CCC

WHERE'S RACHEL?!!!! ...wait, wrong one. I don't know. Cock, maybe?

being gay solves this problem aswell tho i do ask my mate about it ._.

woot! single! *high fives*

the correct response is also: Purple.

Your a homo answer.

Your mom's a homo answer.

... That was mean of me. :<

:(

D:

YOU CAN'T CONTROL MEEEEEEEEEE! <3

fffffffffff D:

I'm back from ban! What I miss?

XD

@ Avias "High Five!!"

:c

You need a version of that avatar from the other side of you. >]

I could get one x3 i just might - Champ does do back veiws ;9 Morca likey? *wags*

You need to ask? ;P

*nibbles* <3 sucks you arent goin to ac this year T..T i miss you

D'aawr you guys <3

Truth of the matter is sometimes women want to be complemented, so they go up and ask 'do I look fat?' instead of 'how do I look?' because we don't want to sound like were whining for complements. But then we get upset if we didn't hear what we wanted. Yes women are crazy, but guys are just as crazy to us.

This last statement is false. Guys have their own stereotypical shortcomings, but they tend to be more emotionally stable. :P

emotionally stable dosent mean we understand yall any better. You can still be stable but still do and say stuff that makes us never get you guys.

What I would say if I was allowed to speak my mind: *observe* "Eh, yeah. So? You still look good."

Screw the rules, I have green eyes. Or something.

I'm glad I never have to put up with this, and when a chick asks? I give my honest opinion. :3c My sister once asked my opinions on a certain pair of short shorts that she had, and I told her flat out they made her look like a prostitute if she put it with the right spaghetti strap top. :>

Well I guess there are some situations when girls decide to wear some inappropriate things and need to be told :|

This is always the case. Never fear to speak your mind, ever. B|

If a girl needs to ask then she shouldn't be wearing that.
Like, I know that I'm fat and that some things look bad on me, asking is just denying a fashion disaster or trying to boost your ego.

guys are retarded, girls are trouble....frankly i can deal with a little bit of dumb rather than a big red monster every month. that's why i stopped with girls all together =D

Morca, you'd look fat in any dress. It's probably all the people you eat. Take that off, dragons don't wear dresses.

You make dragon sad :(

No no, he should leave it on! Shows off his more... beautiful and wussy side!

There's all sorts of stupid girly shit that I'm real damn glad I'll never have to deal with.

Some women are emotionally sensitive about ANYTHING concerning their weight :x

My friends girl was that way. We'd go to the gym to go swimming sometimes and when we asked her if she wanted to go to the gym with us she assumed we meant that she needed to work out and lose weight...

I dont understand some females :x

Oh, I'm sure not all women are that insecure. Maybe a vast majority, but not all. That aside, I think the women who are insecure like that (and the men who are whipped like that) are like that because of how and why they date. As far as I've seen, people date because they find someone attractive, and they date to make the person like them. That explains the insecurities on both sides :\ If people dated people they already had good, strong relationships with to see if they could stand living together, there would result in far less drama.

A: No, your fat makes you look fat!

You can never go wrong with honesty, right? RIGHT?!

Leave my fat alone. It never hurt anyone ;~;

Your fat IS people!
Also, what about all those earthquakes? Dont you level buildings in the city when you walk, fatty? Poor buildings...

i agree wif u morca

OMNOMNOM.

Do these furs make me look fat? :<

Their fat makes you look fat!

lily looks amazing with black and grey striped socks <3

and just that >.>

its a horrible game! : | i think it just needs more cupcakes though

its a horrible game! : | i think it just needs more cupcakes though

ohh boy double post XD

Women have all kinds of vicious mind games, that one just happens to be the most common. I, too, am glad for maintaining my loner status for my whole life so far.

I always answer with the truth...if she wanted me to lie to her she can ask me to lie to her...if she gets pissed I dont care...im not playing those games.

If you say "yes", they get offended. If you say "no", they say "you're just saying that!".

The correct response is, "Honestly, what do you think?"

Special ability: Oblivious.

Yes you do look fat ;u

Don't worry about it!
Just come mooch more of our Bagles!

Sadly I won't be there to mooch anything :P

Just be sure not to ignore the question and just answer with: "you betchya"

As I understand the (typical) female behavior pattern, females are generally insecure, especially about their relationships. So they're constantly "testing" those relationships for soundness by asking loaded questions. The logic can get so contorted that even they don't know what a good answer is.

honestly as a girl I will say I would actually like a truthful answer, if the dress looks horrid on me, bloody well tell me. that and i know im fat, the best question is "Do I look like a overstuffed sausage in this?"

O.o I just relized on my twigs account..this is  thejackaolf

Hence one of the many reasons I don't chase women anymore :P Along with the main fact that THEY NEVER LET YOU CATCH THEM!!!! X_X

Tell a gay guy you wanna fuck him and he'll ask how far away your room is, tell a straight girl you wanna fuck her and you get a slap in the face! XD

The Rules are a game. You don't have to play.
That might limit your potential mate choices somewhat, but you probably wouldn't want to be with those people anyhow.

Also, PSA.

"no, your ass makes you look fat, the dress looks like our bedsheets" :3 i think i would get kicked -so- hard. heh, good thing i caught "the gay" a while ago.

There's this sort of stereotype notion of girls that the male population has generated. It's rather like the stereotype of what Americans thought that Russian people were like during the 80's.

In my experience, real girls are not defined by this stereotype. However, men tend to expect it and see it even if it isn't actually there. A lot of it is actually an illusion in our own heads.

Taking your example... suppose a girl asks a guy this question legitimately and not as a loaded question. Because different clothes really can make a girl look more or less fat. Girls ask each other this sort of question all the time.

So she asks the guy this question... and the guy, with this stereotype in his mind, immediately thinks "OH FUCK!!! OH GOD!!! I'M FUCKED NOW!! NO WAY OUT!". He gets very uncomfortable, and anything he says is going to carry that emotion. And then this makes the girl uncomfortable, too. She might even get upset that geez can't she even ask a simple question? Which the guy now takes as meaning that she's upset because he hesitated in his answer. And whala... he's now proved to himself that the stereotype is absolutely true.

See... part of it is that there's this sort of mindset among guys that we're pulling this stuff over on girls, and they don't realize it. But girls are not actually stupid or imperceptive. They know. If, as in the example, the guy is saying yes without hesitation for fear of a loaded question... the girls knows this and why.

What's worse is that some girls enjoy messing with guys heads using the stereotype. These kinds like to beat guys over the head with it. And it just reinforces these beliefs ten fold.

I'm coming to believe that the notion that girls are so much more complicated than guys is a myth which is perpetuated by all this crap. Girls seem impossible to understand when you're making wrong assumptions about their mentality, level of intelligence, and perceptiveness. And those assumptions are so deeply ingrained into our society that it really is difficult to think past them no matter what you believe about gender equality.

Not that I have a ton of experience on the matter, but I've spoken with both my sister and my mother about this type of thing regarding females. Both of them seem to tell me you're supposed to say something nice regardless of what they're wearing. Ultimately it's not about the dress and not about a stereotype, it's just that she is looking
a) to make you squirm
b) for a compliment
c) to check to see if you're still under her thumb

It's not just this kind of question either, but I see girls will often find roundabout ways of trying to get answers or things from guys. For example - a girl asks "Have you ever fallen in love?" in a roundabout way to ask "Do you like me?" Why not just ask what you want to ask and get an upfront opinion about it? That's what I don't understand.

They are of different gender, different thought patterns. It's cool. I don't think girls are really "complicated" persay either.. It just feels very illogical from my perspective.

As you mention, there are indeed girls that play that game and reinforce the stereotypes.

The girls I hang out with just aren't really like that. But then, I guess I do tend to avoid the ones that exhibit those kinds of behaviors.

I used to feel that all girls were like that. And that if I wanted to have sex with girls, I'd have to put up with crazy. Because all girls are crazy like that.

I almost gave up on girls entirely on the grounds that it just wasn't worth it. I feel that this sort of thing is why a lot of guys turn to homosexuality. I think a significant portion of gay males are actually bisexual by nature but have been so put off by women that they gave up on that side of it and now stick to guys only.

I think my point is that building up the sort of world view that all girls are like that and it's hopeless can lead to never meeting... or even noticing... the good ones who aren't like that at all.

Indeed... I'll go out on a limb here and guess that with this journal entry... well, you actually do want to have sexual relationships with girls... but you're trying to convince yourself that it's not worth it, and you shouldn't be interested because they're all insane, cruel, controlling, and just treat guys like dirt. Swearing off of girls seems like an end to pain and hopeless yearning.

I discovered that what's really out there isn't as horrible or hopeless as I had thought. And I didn't see it because I spent a lot of years blinding myself to it. I didn't meet non-crazy girls because the crazy girls I had met put me off so much that I stopped trying.

Anyway, I hope that's helpful somehow.

To say I think all girls are this way would be silly, but it does seem to be a pronounced behavior with some of the ones I've met so far. I haven't given up trying to make relationships with them yet! It's just a little frustrating at times. Gotta keep hopeful ;)

I wouldn't say I'm looking for sex either, but to be able to get along with a girl beyond a professional environment (work/school) would be nice for a change.

Yup I do the opposite all the time with  lozbunneh

If she looks like her ass is a pool toy because she is wearing something that is distorting to the eye and just generally bad fitting with what look she is going for I tell her flat.

If she complains I simply remind her that she asked and I gave an honest opinion. However it makes for much better relations when your telling the truth, they know it and you honestly believe they look stunning <3

if i truely thought the shoes didnt match or whatnot i'd go with 3 XD

Ah, women... They are so confusing at times. They may or may not also be in the possession of cooties, or so I have been told. A dangerous thing that.

Maybe you're fat because you eat maidens and then wear their dresses.

Seriously though...I never understood bullshit feelgood lies like that.

The correct answer is the truth. If someone can't handle that, well, what can I say. What kind of relationship can you have if it is based on lies? Besides, if she really DOES look fat in a dress, don't you think she would appreciate knowing that BEFORE she goes out somewhere?

Girls, I tell 'ya, they're nice to look at but I'm so glad I'm single!

1. Be honest. If a girl asks such a question, tell her what you really think. If she looks like a walrus in that dress, then let her know. Truth may sometimes hurt, but in the long run it pays off. If not, then it's the wrong girl.

2. Not all girls match the stereotypes mentioned here ("complicated", "insecure", "emotional unstable", "playing mind games", ...).

3. Guys would benefit from realizing that. I guess such horror girls do really exist, particularly when 14-15 years old or so, but - As long as you seriously believe that all girls really are like those stereotypes, you will just hinder yourself - in perception as well as in behavior - when it comes to girls. It also makes you less attractive: It's a risk that girls think of you as a loser or some asshole, and go to somebody else.

You are a loose cannon sandvich, but you are a damn good cop!

Ahh, such a simple question with sucha hard response! Glad I haven't been asked yet!!