Just Rewatched a Classic
15 years ago
Yeah, so I just watched 'Fantasia' for the first time in probably a decade and a half, and um... I got a question. A question that is sure to get me yelled at by strangers, idols and friends.
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Why's everyone like this? I mean, it's visually beautiful, however so are a lot of really crappy movies nowadays. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the point of any kind of entertainment to be... well... entertaining?
I know it was experimental, but then why's a collection of completely unrelated segments being called one of a company's finest masterpieces, if not purely for the prettiness of it?
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Why's everyone like this? I mean, it's visually beautiful, however so are a lot of really crappy movies nowadays. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the point of any kind of entertainment to be... well... entertaining?
I know it was experimental, but then why's a collection of completely unrelated segments being called one of a company's finest masterpieces, if not purely for the prettiness of it?
*puts flamer shields up*
I think you answered by yourself. If the movie is "really crappy" doesn't matter how visually beautiful it is, it's still crappy!
"then they must like it for something other than the visual aspect" Why, is it poorly drawn? Doesn't seem, to me. And I'll tell you what else is that people like: music. Cause basically that's what it is.
If you don't like it, fine, as we say here "It's not what is said to be beautiful that is beautiful, beautiful is what you like"
Also, the point is not so much that it's a movie, but a concert. It's structured like a concert, and is meant to entertain like a concert. If you went to a classical music concert and enjoyed it, you'd enjoy Fantasia.
It's not bad, it's just probably not your thing.
So to sum it up, if they wanna structure it like a concert, then fine. But if they wanna do that in the form of a film, it HAS to at LEAST have a story.
Nobody ever said that films had to have a plot and fixed characters. The first ever film, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker.....mière_Factory doesn't have any plot or relevant characters, yet everyone went nuts for it.
Soon, film had begun being considered as a vector for theatre, with its actors, plots and settings, yet nothing prohibits not to follow that scheme.
Second, "it's nothing but a bunch of unrelated cartoons". Sure, they are. But think about a concert. Most of the times, the pieces played are unrelated, and everyone is happy with that. So are the cartoons in the movie.
"But if they wanna do that in the form of a film, it HAS to at LEAST have a story." This only works if you go to the cinema to see fiction, if you want the screen to be a gate to another world. It doesn't have to be though.
In the first segment, we are introduced to a character, and he has lost something valuable. For the rest of the movie, each segment takes him on a magical adventure that either brings him closer to or father away from finding what he lost. At the end, he experiences the most difficulty, but ends up regaining what he lost and learning that it's the journey that makes an adventure worth while.
That allows it to still be structured like a concert and also allows a lot of freedom, but it still allows the audience to care about what's going on in the film.
Usually, films have soundtracks.
In Fantasia, the soundtrack IS the film. So it doesn't actually matter what you see, what you hear does
I apologize, but as a film student I am frankly insulted that people seem to think a film like Fantasia is considered a masterpiece just because it's pretty animations put to classical music. That doesn't cut it.
And a movie doesn't have to be a recorded play.
I'll give you an example: 1910, futuristic theatre.
I don't remember the title of the play, but it works like this.
Characters: Dad, Mom, Daughter, Son, Table and Credenza.
The human characters just go around the house, from time to time walking in the living room, saying a few words to each other. Most of the time the stage is empty, save for Table and Credenza who sometimes go "Creak. Crac. Toc. Creak". No plot, no characters that the audience may care about.
Sure, it's pure exaggeration, yet it is considered avantgarde theatre!
I'm not talking about plays put on film. I'm talking about films. Not simply recordings of plays, not even interpretations of plays. In order to be an acceptable film at all, it has to have a story. That is just part of the medium of film. An animated, plotless video is called an animation. A live-action, plotless video is called a video. But you can't make an hour-long video or animation that tries to be a concert and call that a film. Sorry, but there's more to a feature length film than moving pictures and a length of one and a half to two hours.