It's a weird thing...
15 years ago
General
Alienating artists.
How often do you see artists who are perfectly nice folk, love to chat, this that and other, but don't share their screen names with anyone. Or if they do just don't ever log on. They appear online on forums and streams etc, but are never signed in for IMing.
I notice it all the time. With other artists, and myself.
Personally I feel my art in a way has alienated me from the fandom. Like some folk are afraid of talk to me because I draw. In other ways I feel it's alienated me because people fear I'll only think they're befriending me because they want free art. Etc etc...the list can go on and on.
I had a whole thought on this earlier and my brain kinda dumped and I lost half my thoughts on the subject, but think about it.
Hell I even find myself playing into it, not talking to artists for some weird intimidation feeling I get. Like I'm still not able to join the artist club and talk with other creators. It's weird.
Eh I'm going through some stressful times myself so these thoughts hit at odd intervals and barely piece themselves together. I'm trying to get my thoughts gathered and using journals to do it.
PS: an In progress wishlist for my b-day comin' up on the 31st.
http://amzn.com/w/1DDXRBL3H6ENC
Other Commissions:
1. MirandaArqayla -
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3.
50 Sketch Commissions! Anything goes. Up to Two characters. Smut, clean you name it. $10
20.UniPrae -
21.brishelle -
22.Fen-Fen -
23.TitanHusky -
24. Dissy -
25. Kovu998 -
26. FancyMissLady -
27. FancyMissLady -
28. Maltoran
29.
30.
And so on and so forth....as this is a start.
How often do you see artists who are perfectly nice folk, love to chat, this that and other, but don't share their screen names with anyone. Or if they do just don't ever log on. They appear online on forums and streams etc, but are never signed in for IMing.
I notice it all the time. With other artists, and myself.
Personally I feel my art in a way has alienated me from the fandom. Like some folk are afraid of talk to me because I draw. In other ways I feel it's alienated me because people fear I'll only think they're befriending me because they want free art. Etc etc...the list can go on and on.
I had a whole thought on this earlier and my brain kinda dumped and I lost half my thoughts on the subject, but think about it.
Hell I even find myself playing into it, not talking to artists for some weird intimidation feeling I get. Like I'm still not able to join the artist club and talk with other creators. It's weird.
Eh I'm going through some stressful times myself so these thoughts hit at odd intervals and barely piece themselves together. I'm trying to get my thoughts gathered and using journals to do it.
PS: an In progress wishlist for my b-day comin' up on the 31st.
http://amzn.com/w/1DDXRBL3H6ENC
Other Commissions:
1. MirandaArqayla -
2.
3.
50 Sketch Commissions! Anything goes. Up to Two characters. Smut, clean you name it. $10
20.
21.
22.
23.
24. Dissy -
25. Kovu998 -
26. FancyMissLady -
27. FancyMissLady -
28. Maltoran
29.
30.
And so on and so forth....as this is a start.
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I'm usually a chatty bastard in person XD;
Hrmm...
Now I just worry about wasting their time. :P
Writers, of which I am one tend to cluster. We do talk to each other, exchange ideas, snippets of writing and so forth.
But I am really nice, if you aren't fucking stupid. C:
I've wanted to say hi to you sometime because other donkeys are awesome, but eh. :P
So I guess, for me anyway, I worry that if I put my information out there the only people who WOULD contact me are those who only wanted to do so for entirely selfish reasons and not so much because they actually want to get to know me.
BTW, thanks for the fav on the cookies. They rock, yes?
Then again, if the artist remains open, that usually goes away. I've known a lot of artisty folks, and enjoy their friendship, sometime on a close level. Sometimes on a more relaxed level.. like says, you and me. We're not help-each-other-move sort of friends, but there's a level of "Yeah I know 'em, good person" and comfy conversation when it occurs. S'all good. I'd probably have nothing to blather to you about on AIM or furryMUCK anyway. :)
Don;t worry too much about it. In life you will grow closer to some people and further from others; it is a natural progression. Draw your art. Pursue the best relationships, one where you give and get to mutual benefit. :)
As someone in the "fan" camp I always try to not be a pest. When I consider approaching artists this is where I'm coming from. It can make me prone to feeling a little anxious to start with. Also, to me at least, weather intentional or not, you have created an image that can be a wee bit intimidating. More on that in a bit. Anyway, communicating primarily through text, and to groups as well as individuals, can lead to a one-dimensional representation of a person. Because of this, among furs I think I may have developed an image of being almost some sort of wuss. (It's funny because for other reasons, years ago, among my barfly cohorts I was thought of as a bad-ass. Neither image is accurate.)
The reason I was a bit abashed by you is because I was constructing someone out of scraps of text, etc., that included a few benign comments or jokes simply showing off your cynical side. Also, as a popular artist you were perceived as being under less pressure to be nice if you weren't nice by nature. Otherwise you were basically an unknown entity. Of course this is ALL completely absurd, but people are wired to put what they have together and fill in the blanks, and are often not aware when the picture they have is mostly blank. Luckily I was aware of what was going on in my head and was able to reserve judgement.
"I'm trying to get my thoughts gathered and using journals to do it."
Doing that in the way you're doing here, which encourages dialogue, is a good way to more fully round out your persona. It can help foster a good comfort level.
I'd better leave it at that for now.
Traditionally I think visual artists have been perceived as the secluded types, not wanting to be bothered because they're at work, so people tend to leave them alone, I actually find myself doing that at times to the artists that do chat to me, I'll get something off my mind and tell them "hey I'll let you get back to whatever you were doing." Reminds me of a joke actually "I tried painting a nude once, but it was cold so I put my clothes back on." If I tried visual arts these days I'd probably love to chat to someone while doing so so I wouldn't concentrate so hard on getting it right, just let things be created freely
I'm pretty chill and lots' of fun! :D
They piss me off. When I'm online, I'm typically doing something specific. IM is like a phone... no, worse. it's like a CB radio. Except the other person KNOWS you're there. Bleah. Email works JUST fine for me to keep in touch with folks... and I don't check it as much as I should. Meh.
Me, I'm a roleplayer type person thing. Most of the people on my IM lists were put there in an 'organic' fashion. We liked the cut of each others jib and added each other to correspond at a later date. It's been so long since I've added somebody for other reasons that I even suspect my own motives for adding people just because I like their art. XD
I rarely ever IM. Largely because I don't have internets at home, so when I do get online I don't usually have time for IMs.
Other reasons:
- I don't have the time or the patience to draw conversation out of some random furry who contacted me but expects me to shoulder the brunt of the exchange. Someone IM'ing a "Hi" to me does not make me responsible for finding a topic & otherwise keeping them entertained.
- Those who want to 'commission' free art are irritating as hell. Whenever someone drools & slobbers over me & how much they adore my art etc etc without saying anything specific, I know they're going to be asking for free art, and they want it now.
- Random requests for yiff/cyber/tiny sex/whatever. Look--I don't help those who are too lazy to masturbate by themselves, mmmkay?
- I have a low tolerance for netspeak
- I have a low tolerance for people who bomb me with random incomplete phrases & are impatient while I respond using sentences.
- Frankly, if it's not important enough to first go to the trouble of sending me an e-mail (or a note via FurAffinity), then it's probably not all that important.
Longer rant here.