Good news and bad news. (Warning, this is a rant.)
15 years ago
General
Guess I'll start with the good news, since there isn't much of it.
GOOD NEWS! I uh, well, my loans I apply for school every year successfully went through. I'm confirmed for yet another wonderful year at Ringling. I added in the money for those refunds as well, so that has been secured. However, it's been split in half, so only half of the refund money is going to be handed to me for this semester, I won't get the rest until December. So for those of you who really don't want a refund, please inform me so I can make a list. Then I guess, for those of you who really do want a refund, note me as well so I can get a list of those people.
That's all.
BAD NEWS. This is a bit of a rant, so be warned. I really need to get this out of my system...so it's going to be a tad long. If you read this...you are truly amazing. ( The real news is mostly towards the bottom if you want to skip...this is very tl;dr)
So um, I've been away for a while. I should really announce these things hah. Pretty much, my mother wanted me to come home for a bit. I had a doctor's appointment I needed to go to, my car needed some service done to it, and my mom threw a hissy fit about my hair and made me get it redone. ( I was pretty okay with it, my hair is always a curly mess, but she found it revolting.) It was in my plans to just come home for the weekend, but the people my dad found to fix my car were very...well...unreliable. There were a lot of fake promises about my car coming out of the shop earlier that week, and it wasn't ready until Friday. So yes, I was at home for the entire week. That's not so bad right? My little trip home started out pretty okay, the only thing I was a little peeved about was that the money I made from Megaplex had to be used to get home and to get some pre-service done to my car before I took off.
I wasn't worried at first, because I had told my mom I was gonna use that money for AFO, and she said she would reimburse me for the rest of the month. Luckily I didn't use all of it though, however...I was forced to along the way because the money my mom deposited for gas didn't come through that day. I almost didn't have enough to make it home, but fortunately I made it just in time.
Alright, so somewhere in between the time I got home and by the time I left, my mom kind of went a little batshit. I don't know what got her so worked up, but now my parents are holding me against my will. It's really weird, because uh, we didn't have many problems while I was there. She had her little rant sessions with me every now and then (Mostly about how she keeps wasting money and my actual mother. Yes, she still supports my mom....who is 46.), but those are normal. We did have a little bitchfit about how she thinks I'm lying to her about what I do with the money she gives me, and I got a little peeved about how she kept using the term "People like you" and "people like you who don't care if you lie" ...followed by "People like you who don't have remorse or any sort of self conscience".
Um, that really upset me. I don't think I can begin to express how hard it was for me to just sit there and take that with my mouth shut tight. I just took her bitching, nodded, and went back to my business. I just assumed it was normal, my mom does suffer from high blood pressure..so sometimes I just take the things she says with a grain of salt. Mostly because my parents (Who are actually my grandparents...they adopted me, so they're legally my parents who I call mom and dad.) are very old fashioned, highly prejudice and still think as though they're still living in the 1960's or some shit like that. Oh, and they're highly religious, you know, the typical bible thumping HI WE'RE OLD AND LIVE IN ALABAMA AND GO TO CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY. IF YOU DON'T WE HAVE NO RESPECT FOR YOU. That doesn't even begin to cover it.
Let me tell you a bit about me and my parents before I go on, maybe you'll see where I'm coming from. You see, I'm pretty agnostic, mostly an athiest, but everything about religion is up in the clouds for me right now. I'll leave it at that. When I told my parents that, they began to slowly treat like some sort of reject. Or if you really wanna get emo up in here, treating me like the little mistake I am. Mostly my dad though, he used to treat me like the best thing in the world until I told him that. It's like he gave up on me and only continued to support me since I was just like...what, 15 at the time? Well his true feelings are starting to show now I guess. Idk, he doesn't seem to care much at all anymore. My mother however, was in this constant state of denial about me being agnostic. She about had a heart attack or something, she put me in therapy for it and everything. IT WAS A CRAZY POINT IN TIME FOR ME. However, she soon realized she'd never be able to change me back to what I used to be when I was like 10 or something, so now they see me as this ridiculous non-believing devil spawn or something lame like that.
So I believe you get the point now, they're those types of religious people. Now don't get me wrong, I'm pretty accepting of people with different views, beliefs and religions. I believe I can safely say that I'm pretty easy going with those sorts of topics and what have yous. It's just...when you start shoving it down my throat, that's when I get angry. My parents like to do this a lot, they start stepping all over my toes about Christianity and why I'm a horrible person because I don't believe in the things they do and why THEIR VIEWS ARE THE ONLY RIGHT VIEWS!!!! You know, they've got that really huge "Holier Than Thou" complex. It's very hard to get your point of view to through them, and that goes with anything. "Oh sorry, but your opinions are silly and invalid, only our opinions matter because we're old and have had experience!! You are still young, so everything you say is wrong and stupid."
I'm not trying to put my parents down, because I really do appreciate what they do for me and everything they have done for me. But that's just it...I only have respect for them because they're my parents. When it comes to them as individuals...all the respect I had for them has been lost. Why? Because I just...idk, the way they constantly put down things is really disgusting.
Like for instance, when me and my mom have talks about my general image, I'll tell her "But you're the only one who thinks my hair is horrible." Or "You're the only one who thinks I'm super fat" and stuff like that. You know how she responds? "That's because the people who tell you that don't give a shit about you! You should start listening to the people who care, like me!!!" While I can see where she's coming from, and sometimes I do agree with her due to my own insecurities, it's just really ridiculous to hear that. I get a lot of compliments about my hair, even when it's not in it's best condition. I'm usually pretty happy with it. However, when I was at home she said something along the lines of "See, you're down there in Florida with a bunch of freaks, they don't know what they're talking about." That just...really pissed me off, those "freaks" are my friends, sometimes my mom just doesn't know what she's saying sometimes.
So yeah, a lot of that kind of bickering happened while I was at home. :/ I kept to myself and tried not to argue, which was for the better. I left home, my mom gave me money for the month which I was pretty happy with, however I came to realize it wasn't enough when I found that I had to use half of it for gas to get back to Florida since gas prices sky-rocketed over the past few days. Also I was still going to AFO, I had already planned to split the room cost with Mur and I wasn't about to back out of that at the last minute all like OOPS NEVERMIND.
Since my mom bitched at me a little about money before I left, she thought she got through to me that I shouldn't go to AFO or something. Well she technically did since I didn't pay for admission or anything at AFO, just for the room. She uh, well, called me on Saturday to see if I made it back okay. I told her I was in Orlando and she just kinda...blew up on me. :/ She thought I lied to her and she started up again with the whole "PEOPLE LIKE YOU!!!" thing and I finally got angry and just said "What do you mean people like me??" and she was all like "STOP CHANGING THE SUBJECT!!" and I'm just thinking " Geez you're the one who said it."
So yeah, uh, she pretty much yelled at me and guilt tripped me, saying that since I'm some horrible "non-believer" she assumes that I lie to her about what I do with her money and now she doesn't have any because she spent all her money on me.
Um.
Did I forget to mention that when I was at home they were getting the entire kitchen remodeled? Also, she was the one who flipped out and wanted me to get my hair done. All I came home for was to go to the doctor, get my car checked on (Which my dad paid for), and uh..that's about it. She also pays on my loans and my rent every month, but that's apart of the usual bills she pays every month. She just counted that in to add on to the guilt. :/ She's also STILL trying to support my actual mother, who has a job to support herself and my sister and pretty much everything else. She doesn't have to do it, but she chooses to. (For what reasons I don't know..)
So I got really upset after that phone call, like I just legitimately broke down. All of that anger that swelled up inside me converted into utter rage. Mostly because my mom just...wouldn't listen to me at all. She never does, she just assumes the worst without listening to my side of the story. She told me she didn't have any money left, so she wouldn't be able to give me any more until she had more. I was okay with this, I'm pretty good to holding on to money when I have to. So I cried like a pussy for a while, mostly from all of that rage that built up inside me and eh, well, after that kind of yelling it leaves me feeling pretty worthless. Like uh, I kind of wanted to die. Really. Being yelled at is something I can not handle.
I eventually stopped crying like a little fag, and decided to hang out with some people and my friends that were at AFO to cheer me up a bit. It helped a lot too, and soon I felt 100% better. It was so great I decided to hang out with them again on Sunday and such, you know, just trying to be positive and such. I went home that following evening and everything was PRETTY GREAT.
Well the next day I got this....angry phone call from my actual mother. I was pretty surprised to see her name pop up on my phone, normally her phone calls are pleasing to get. HEY MY ACTUAL MOM IS CALLING ME, YOU DO CARE!!! HEYYY--- "..."
Oh my god I don't even know how to explain the sheer...anger that was coming from my phone. I put it on speaker phone just so I could let Mur in on what's happening. My actual mom is not pretty when she's angry...which is why I wonder if we're related sometimes, I did not inherit her aggressive nature. I can get angry...but my anger just turns into pussy tears.
Anyways, she was telling me that she was just "relaying a message from momma" that I'm being completely cut off from them. She says that she's been spending too much money on me and that she finds that it's not fair I take my money that I make and do whatever the fuck I want with it. She also thinks I lied to her about summer classes and that I pissed the summer away on her money. She told me not to even think about calling, because they're not going to pick up the phone.
After that she decided to lecture me on how much her life sucked when my parents did that to her and HOW FUCKING HARD IT IS, SUCKS TO BE YOU HUH????
Thing is...the difference between me and my actual mom, when she was my age she dropped out of college. n_n; She was on drugs, a big sex addict, and was also addicted to smoking. PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING HORRIBLE. She apparently unfortunately got knocked up with me at that time. (That's where the mistake thing comes in, I still wonder how I came out okay.) My parents gave her multiple chances, they gave her money too!! But she just wasted it on DRUGS AND STUFF. So that's why they cut her off!!! She had to spend a lot of her time on the streets because she was too addicted to drugs and when she finally got enough of that..that's when she had to give in and go back home. She was put in rehab and NOW SHE'S SOOOOOOO MUCH BETTER. So my parents are "supporting" her until she's back on her feet. She's doing pretty well now. :/ She has a job, a car...her on house, she's supporting herself AND my sister. She looks to well...our mother, to pay her smaller stuff like insurance shit, car payments and other stuff I probably don't know about.
So I'm just sitting here thinking to myself...god damnit, if anyone has to be cut off, why not you? YOU ARE 46, WHAT IS THIS. She had her chance, but she blew it. (I mean really..what makes more sense? Supporting your daughter who's still in college who's trying to make something of herself or supporting the 46 year old who's pretty much supporting her own self with her job and everything else she could ever need.)
That's really horrible of me think like that, but seriously. I got really upset about that phone call, but later realized she was only angry because since my mom gave me her money, now she doesn't have any money to give her!! OH BOOHOO.
But yeah, she just..ranted and ranted at me, she began to even pull Mur into all of this, saying that our parents aren't like Mur's!! THEY'RE FROM NEW YORK N_N THAT MEANS THEY'RE RICH AND CAN AFFORD STUFF. WE CAN NOT, EVEN THOUGH YOU KNOW, HAHA, WE DO MAKE 100K A YEAR WHICH IS A LOT HIGHER THAN HER PARENTS' SALARY. BUT WHO CARES, THEY'RE STILL RICH BECAUSE THEY'RE FROM NEW YORK. THAT
TOTALLY
MAKES
A LOT
OF
FUCKING
SENSE!!!! YEAH!!!!!!
The only difference between mine and Mur's parents is that his parents work. MINE DO NOT. They're retired and expect that their retirement checks are enough to cover everything!!!!
Ok I'm starting to lose my cool, but when my parents start pulling that out of their asses, that just begins to show how ignorant they can be. Do you see what I'm saying?? I hope so.
So Mur heard that, and he got all angry and outraged. I did too...and I just..I kind of hung up on my actual mom because she was starting to go completely batshit and she was being biased anyways. My parents cutting me off is not only not fair to me, but also unfair to Mur. :/ We split the rent cost in half and both of our parents signed the lease agreeing to paying the rent every month. Them cutting me off is also them not paying the rent...so...there's a little problem here. Also, I still needed supplies for classes this semester..and..well, pretty much they were going to provide the money for my living expenses. I didn't include that in the loans because they said not to...
So my mom just suddenly doing this out of the blue really upset me, and well, I kind of broke down again the other day. Especially with the whole "We're not even going to pick up the phone if you call!!!" thing. It's like they're sticking their noses up in the air until I give in to their wishes. Their wishes being, wanting me to quit college and come home. They think me going to college here is a huge waste of money and time. They can't do anything about this year since it's been paid for, but they're seriously considering pulling me out of college for next year. q___q;; So they're just going to cut off everything until that time comes...I guess. I honestly think that my mom's just over-reacting, but I dunno...
I talked to my aunt and she spoke with my mom(s), she told me that I should just write to her since she won't listen to me over the phone. I'm going to do this, because at least I can get down my point of view on paper, so she can read it and maybe understand me for once.
You see, none of this would be a problem if it were possible to get a job and go to Ringling at the same time, but I'm afraid this is a problem and very impossible to do (Just ask anyone who went/goes to Ringling.). My parents don't realize this, they think Ringling is a huge pushover since it's an art school. :/ They're very much in the wrong and it's hard explaining this to them, I even had to get a teacher to talk to them about it. It's really hard for me, because this semester I will be having 4 studio classes, and on top of that, starting a minor and I will probably be in charge of a club this year. So a job is out of the question, and the only thing I could probably manage would be commissions..which I really didn't want to do during the school year, it's very hard getting to them.
So I'm pretty much at a loss right now, I've been feeling a lot better with the help of
about everything and trying to stay positive, and I'm going to give this letter thing a go and see what happens with my parents. However, I feel as though I should suck it up and expect the worst. I just hate knowing I may have to take out another loan. q_q; Loans are not cool.
Meh, sorry this is so long, normally I keep rants to myself..but I figured this may be something that's going to affect the out come of art or something of the like...
GOOD NEWS! I uh, well, my loans I apply for school every year successfully went through. I'm confirmed for yet another wonderful year at Ringling. I added in the money for those refunds as well, so that has been secured. However, it's been split in half, so only half of the refund money is going to be handed to me for this semester, I won't get the rest until December. So for those of you who really don't want a refund, please inform me so I can make a list. Then I guess, for those of you who really do want a refund, note me as well so I can get a list of those people.
That's all.
BAD NEWS. This is a bit of a rant, so be warned. I really need to get this out of my system...so it's going to be a tad long. If you read this...you are truly amazing. ( The real news is mostly towards the bottom if you want to skip...this is very tl;dr)
So um, I've been away for a while. I should really announce these things hah. Pretty much, my mother wanted me to come home for a bit. I had a doctor's appointment I needed to go to, my car needed some service done to it, and my mom threw a hissy fit about my hair and made me get it redone. ( I was pretty okay with it, my hair is always a curly mess, but she found it revolting.) It was in my plans to just come home for the weekend, but the people my dad found to fix my car were very...well...unreliable. There were a lot of fake promises about my car coming out of the shop earlier that week, and it wasn't ready until Friday. So yes, I was at home for the entire week. That's not so bad right? My little trip home started out pretty okay, the only thing I was a little peeved about was that the money I made from Megaplex had to be used to get home and to get some pre-service done to my car before I took off.
I wasn't worried at first, because I had told my mom I was gonna use that money for AFO, and she said she would reimburse me for the rest of the month. Luckily I didn't use all of it though, however...I was forced to along the way because the money my mom deposited for gas didn't come through that day. I almost didn't have enough to make it home, but fortunately I made it just in time.
Alright, so somewhere in between the time I got home and by the time I left, my mom kind of went a little batshit. I don't know what got her so worked up, but now my parents are holding me against my will. It's really weird, because uh, we didn't have many problems while I was there. She had her little rant sessions with me every now and then (Mostly about how she keeps wasting money and my actual mother. Yes, she still supports my mom....who is 46.), but those are normal. We did have a little bitchfit about how she thinks I'm lying to her about what I do with the money she gives me, and I got a little peeved about how she kept using the term "People like you" and "people like you who don't care if you lie" ...followed by "People like you who don't have remorse or any sort of self conscience".
Um, that really upset me. I don't think I can begin to express how hard it was for me to just sit there and take that with my mouth shut tight. I just took her bitching, nodded, and went back to my business. I just assumed it was normal, my mom does suffer from high blood pressure..so sometimes I just take the things she says with a grain of salt. Mostly because my parents (Who are actually my grandparents...they adopted me, so they're legally my parents who I call mom and dad.) are very old fashioned, highly prejudice and still think as though they're still living in the 1960's or some shit like that. Oh, and they're highly religious, you know, the typical bible thumping HI WE'RE OLD AND LIVE IN ALABAMA AND GO TO CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY. IF YOU DON'T WE HAVE NO RESPECT FOR YOU. That doesn't even begin to cover it.
Let me tell you a bit about me and my parents before I go on, maybe you'll see where I'm coming from. You see, I'm pretty agnostic, mostly an athiest, but everything about religion is up in the clouds for me right now. I'll leave it at that. When I told my parents that, they began to slowly treat like some sort of reject. Or if you really wanna get emo up in here, treating me like the little mistake I am. Mostly my dad though, he used to treat me like the best thing in the world until I told him that. It's like he gave up on me and only continued to support me since I was just like...what, 15 at the time? Well his true feelings are starting to show now I guess. Idk, he doesn't seem to care much at all anymore. My mother however, was in this constant state of denial about me being agnostic. She about had a heart attack or something, she put me in therapy for it and everything. IT WAS A CRAZY POINT IN TIME FOR ME. However, she soon realized she'd never be able to change me back to what I used to be when I was like 10 or something, so now they see me as this ridiculous non-believing devil spawn or something lame like that.
So I believe you get the point now, they're those types of religious people. Now don't get me wrong, I'm pretty accepting of people with different views, beliefs and religions. I believe I can safely say that I'm pretty easy going with those sorts of topics and what have yous. It's just...when you start shoving it down my throat, that's when I get angry. My parents like to do this a lot, they start stepping all over my toes about Christianity and why I'm a horrible person because I don't believe in the things they do and why THEIR VIEWS ARE THE ONLY RIGHT VIEWS!!!! You know, they've got that really huge "Holier Than Thou" complex. It's very hard to get your point of view to through them, and that goes with anything. "Oh sorry, but your opinions are silly and invalid, only our opinions matter because we're old and have had experience!! You are still young, so everything you say is wrong and stupid."
I'm not trying to put my parents down, because I really do appreciate what they do for me and everything they have done for me. But that's just it...I only have respect for them because they're my parents. When it comes to them as individuals...all the respect I had for them has been lost. Why? Because I just...idk, the way they constantly put down things is really disgusting.
Like for instance, when me and my mom have talks about my general image, I'll tell her "But you're the only one who thinks my hair is horrible." Or "You're the only one who thinks I'm super fat" and stuff like that. You know how she responds? "That's because the people who tell you that don't give a shit about you! You should start listening to the people who care, like me!!!" While I can see where she's coming from, and sometimes I do agree with her due to my own insecurities, it's just really ridiculous to hear that. I get a lot of compliments about my hair, even when it's not in it's best condition. I'm usually pretty happy with it. However, when I was at home she said something along the lines of "See, you're down there in Florida with a bunch of freaks, they don't know what they're talking about." That just...really pissed me off, those "freaks" are my friends, sometimes my mom just doesn't know what she's saying sometimes.
So yeah, a lot of that kind of bickering happened while I was at home. :/ I kept to myself and tried not to argue, which was for the better. I left home, my mom gave me money for the month which I was pretty happy with, however I came to realize it wasn't enough when I found that I had to use half of it for gas to get back to Florida since gas prices sky-rocketed over the past few days. Also I was still going to AFO, I had already planned to split the room cost with Mur and I wasn't about to back out of that at the last minute all like OOPS NEVERMIND.
Since my mom bitched at me a little about money before I left, she thought she got through to me that I shouldn't go to AFO or something. Well she technically did since I didn't pay for admission or anything at AFO, just for the room. She uh, well, called me on Saturday to see if I made it back okay. I told her I was in Orlando and she just kinda...blew up on me. :/ She thought I lied to her and she started up again with the whole "PEOPLE LIKE YOU!!!" thing and I finally got angry and just said "What do you mean people like me??" and she was all like "STOP CHANGING THE SUBJECT!!" and I'm just thinking " Geez you're the one who said it."
So yeah, uh, she pretty much yelled at me and guilt tripped me, saying that since I'm some horrible "non-believer" she assumes that I lie to her about what I do with her money and now she doesn't have any because she spent all her money on me.
Um.
Did I forget to mention that when I was at home they were getting the entire kitchen remodeled? Also, she was the one who flipped out and wanted me to get my hair done. All I came home for was to go to the doctor, get my car checked on (Which my dad paid for), and uh..that's about it. She also pays on my loans and my rent every month, but that's apart of the usual bills she pays every month. She just counted that in to add on to the guilt. :/ She's also STILL trying to support my actual mother, who has a job to support herself and my sister and pretty much everything else. She doesn't have to do it, but she chooses to. (For what reasons I don't know..)
So I got really upset after that phone call, like I just legitimately broke down. All of that anger that swelled up inside me converted into utter rage. Mostly because my mom just...wouldn't listen to me at all. She never does, she just assumes the worst without listening to my side of the story. She told me she didn't have any money left, so she wouldn't be able to give me any more until she had more. I was okay with this, I'm pretty good to holding on to money when I have to. So I cried like a pussy for a while, mostly from all of that rage that built up inside me and eh, well, after that kind of yelling it leaves me feeling pretty worthless. Like uh, I kind of wanted to die. Really. Being yelled at is something I can not handle.
I eventually stopped crying like a little fag, and decided to hang out with some people and my friends that were at AFO to cheer me up a bit. It helped a lot too, and soon I felt 100% better. It was so great I decided to hang out with them again on Sunday and such, you know, just trying to be positive and such. I went home that following evening and everything was PRETTY GREAT.
Well the next day I got this....angry phone call from my actual mother. I was pretty surprised to see her name pop up on my phone, normally her phone calls are pleasing to get. HEY MY ACTUAL MOM IS CALLING ME, YOU DO CARE!!! HEYYY--- "..."
Oh my god I don't even know how to explain the sheer...anger that was coming from my phone. I put it on speaker phone just so I could let Mur in on what's happening. My actual mom is not pretty when she's angry...which is why I wonder if we're related sometimes, I did not inherit her aggressive nature. I can get angry...but my anger just turns into pussy tears.
Anyways, she was telling me that she was just "relaying a message from momma" that I'm being completely cut off from them. She says that she's been spending too much money on me and that she finds that it's not fair I take my money that I make and do whatever the fuck I want with it. She also thinks I lied to her about summer classes and that I pissed the summer away on her money. She told me not to even think about calling, because they're not going to pick up the phone.
After that she decided to lecture me on how much her life sucked when my parents did that to her and HOW FUCKING HARD IT IS, SUCKS TO BE YOU HUH????
Thing is...the difference between me and my actual mom, when she was my age she dropped out of college. n_n; She was on drugs, a big sex addict, and was also addicted to smoking. PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING HORRIBLE. She apparently unfortunately got knocked up with me at that time. (That's where the mistake thing comes in, I still wonder how I came out okay.) My parents gave her multiple chances, they gave her money too!! But she just wasted it on DRUGS AND STUFF. So that's why they cut her off!!! She had to spend a lot of her time on the streets because she was too addicted to drugs and when she finally got enough of that..that's when she had to give in and go back home. She was put in rehab and NOW SHE'S SOOOOOOO MUCH BETTER. So my parents are "supporting" her until she's back on her feet. She's doing pretty well now. :/ She has a job, a car...her on house, she's supporting herself AND my sister. She looks to well...our mother, to pay her smaller stuff like insurance shit, car payments and other stuff I probably don't know about.
So I'm just sitting here thinking to myself...god damnit, if anyone has to be cut off, why not you? YOU ARE 46, WHAT IS THIS. She had her chance, but she blew it. (I mean really..what makes more sense? Supporting your daughter who's still in college who's trying to make something of herself or supporting the 46 year old who's pretty much supporting her own self with her job and everything else she could ever need.)
That's really horrible of me think like that, but seriously. I got really upset about that phone call, but later realized she was only angry because since my mom gave me her money, now she doesn't have any money to give her!! OH BOOHOO.
But yeah, she just..ranted and ranted at me, she began to even pull Mur into all of this, saying that our parents aren't like Mur's!! THEY'RE FROM NEW YORK N_N THAT MEANS THEY'RE RICH AND CAN AFFORD STUFF. WE CAN NOT, EVEN THOUGH YOU KNOW, HAHA, WE DO MAKE 100K A YEAR WHICH IS A LOT HIGHER THAN HER PARENTS' SALARY. BUT WHO CARES, THEY'RE STILL RICH BECAUSE THEY'RE FROM NEW YORK. THAT
TOTALLY
MAKES
A LOT
OF
FUCKING
SENSE!!!! YEAH!!!!!!
The only difference between mine and Mur's parents is that his parents work. MINE DO NOT. They're retired and expect that their retirement checks are enough to cover everything!!!!
Ok I'm starting to lose my cool, but when my parents start pulling that out of their asses, that just begins to show how ignorant they can be. Do you see what I'm saying?? I hope so.
So Mur heard that, and he got all angry and outraged. I did too...and I just..I kind of hung up on my actual mom because she was starting to go completely batshit and she was being biased anyways. My parents cutting me off is not only not fair to me, but also unfair to Mur. :/ We split the rent cost in half and both of our parents signed the lease agreeing to paying the rent every month. Them cutting me off is also them not paying the rent...so...there's a little problem here. Also, I still needed supplies for classes this semester..and..well, pretty much they were going to provide the money for my living expenses. I didn't include that in the loans because they said not to...
So my mom just suddenly doing this out of the blue really upset me, and well, I kind of broke down again the other day. Especially with the whole "We're not even going to pick up the phone if you call!!!" thing. It's like they're sticking their noses up in the air until I give in to their wishes. Their wishes being, wanting me to quit college and come home. They think me going to college here is a huge waste of money and time. They can't do anything about this year since it's been paid for, but they're seriously considering pulling me out of college for next year. q___q;; So they're just going to cut off everything until that time comes...I guess. I honestly think that my mom's just over-reacting, but I dunno...
I talked to my aunt and she spoke with my mom(s), she told me that I should just write to her since she won't listen to me over the phone. I'm going to do this, because at least I can get down my point of view on paper, so she can read it and maybe understand me for once.
You see, none of this would be a problem if it were possible to get a job and go to Ringling at the same time, but I'm afraid this is a problem and very impossible to do (Just ask anyone who went/goes to Ringling.). My parents don't realize this, they think Ringling is a huge pushover since it's an art school. :/ They're very much in the wrong and it's hard explaining this to them, I even had to get a teacher to talk to them about it. It's really hard for me, because this semester I will be having 4 studio classes, and on top of that, starting a minor and I will probably be in charge of a club this year. So a job is out of the question, and the only thing I could probably manage would be commissions..which I really didn't want to do during the school year, it's very hard getting to them.
So I'm pretty much at a loss right now, I've been feeling a lot better with the help of
about everything and trying to stay positive, and I'm going to give this letter thing a go and see what happens with my parents. However, I feel as though I should suck it up and expect the worst. I just hate knowing I may have to take out another loan. q_q; Loans are not cool. Meh, sorry this is so long, normally I keep rants to myself..but I figured this may be something that's going to affect the out come of art or something of the like...
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I can kind or relate to the parents issue, though mine were nowhere near as awful as yours have been acting. I just gotta say I'm sorry, and I'm also sorry that you're being forced to rely on loans so much. ;_;
I donated a smidge since I don't have much, but I hope it helps and just so you know, you have some awesome friends looking out for you, and fans that want to help too. If you ever need someone else to vent to, just an unbiased ear, I'm here. I know it's not much, but it's something.
Ahh I'm always on aim, so if you want to hit me up there that would be fine.
Not gonna lie, I saw your reply saying you'd come and fanboy'd a little, lol. (I'm a boy same as Mur, if you catch my drift, just so you're not surprised in person. :3)
and I completely understand the gender thing, it's cool <3
SAM YOU DICK STOP TYPING FASTER THAN ME >O
I know it's kind of callous to say this, but people that set in their ways don't seem like they'll be changing any time soon. For them to assume that you're blowing your whole life away and totally disregarding them because you don't believe in Jesus or whatever is... insane, to say the least. Not very Christian-like of them (I'm assuming they're Christian, correct me if I'm wrong).
In any case, here's to hoping that it's just a ragefit on their part, and that someone will eventually come to their senses. Just because you're not a devoutly religious person getting a degree is business doesn't mean you're not entitled to some respect, yanno?
What you say is very true, my parents are just at that sort of age where there's no use in trying to get them to change, but rather, try and work something out between the two. I try my best to see their side of the story and I try to understand their views, which I very much do. It's just, they're not really doing so well on their end in that department, which upsets me and thus the rage ensues.
But yes, my parents are Christians. They've got bible quotes written down on dozens of index cards all over the house to prove it.
I'm also hoping it's a rage fit as well, my mom has had them before, but it's never been this extreme before. I'm just hoping my letter will calm her down so we can have a decent conversation about what to do for this year.
I'm pretty upset that i couldnt go to afo this year.. but flah.. (got sick...better now...)
Really sucks about all thats happened for absolutely no flipping reason. I can't say 'I know what that's like' because i really don't.
I'm not really a believer either... overly religious people bother me because they're so intolerant sometimes.. you have a perfect example there...
Hope things improve for you
I was pretty upset that I didn't get to really partake in anything at AFO, but I figured not spending anything would help me in the long run.
Yeah, it's really frustrating because I feel as though I've done nothing wrong at all. q_q; They're always like this with things.
Thanks, I hope things get better as well.
I dunno if your school has this too, but I go to MICA and students can have security/desk jobs that require pretty much no effort. I managed to work 18 hours a week despite being an animation major and running two clubs, since I could bring my laptop with me and designate it as homework time. It was a bit stressful, but I made enough to pay rent and eat. If it's possible for you to get something similar, I highly recommend it.
Other than that... I guess all you can do is hope they get over themselves.
In any case, good luck!
Thank you <3
All I can say is that I'm glad you have friends around to support you and be around with you. Maybe that will help you along the way. I can only hope the best for you, in that something good comes your way. Hang in there! Keep doing what you're supposed to do, stay focused, and you might just find a way to get through all of it.
I've also got bank statements I can show to her, but every time I ask her if she wants to see them, she just gets...angry and says she doesn't need to...see them?? I don't understand her sometimes.
Do anything you can to AVOID getting a job while you're going to school for art. People who haven't gone have no idea just how difficult and time consuming art school is. "Oh you just have to draw, that's nothing compared to ENGINEERING SCHOOL" is what I got from my parents @__@ Which...any one who actually went to art school knows is BS. Personally, I worked 2 jobs while I went to school for art, and I was just in a community college. I still ended up dropping out after my first year because I was so burnt out from huge expectations from teachers. I can only imagine the workload from a school that expects full time devotion from its students.
A lot of people I know took out extra large student loans when they were in college to help pay for living costs as well as school. If you can, maybe try to take out another loan to cover the living costs that you won't be getting from your parents. It seems awful to do ( OMG DEBT D: ) but they usually don't make you pay them off until after you graduate, and you have like...all of forever to pay them off. Something like 10+ years. Or maybe talk to some sort of financial adviser at your school, since most schools have them, to see if you can get any help from the school. I'm sure they'd be able to at least suggest some decent options.
Best of luck with both your family and your school! :( this just sounds like such an awful situation to be stuck in.
I will see if I can take out a loan, I'm gonna contact my financial aid adviser and see what my options are. q_q; Hopefully I'm eligible for a grant or something. Thank you!
One thing I will say is that the religion situation with your parents is definitely frustrating, I understand you there completely. It's annoying when a person from any religion talks like that. Their intentions are good, if your religion is really important to you it's only natural to want to share it with the ones you love, but it sounds like their seriously going about it the wrong way. That makes the Christian religion look bad in your eyes, and I understand that. I mean, I'm a really dedicated Christian, but I know that there is a time and place for everything. No one appreciates being preached to all the time, especially in a forceful manner. It turns peoples' minds away, and often ruins their opinion of religion in general. Their intentions are good, just try to understand that and continue on with your own soul-searching. Religion means something different to each person. Obviously your conflicting views frustrate them, and I suppose that may make them desperate to "convert" you "back". This is not a good way to go about explaining a religion, but it may be the only way they know how. Trust me, not all Christians are like that at all :)
I wish I could say something to make you feel better! I really wouldn't know how to react in a situation like yours. Your mother seems to be being quite unreasonable. Parents can be sooo frustrating sometimes, especially when money is involved. Things always seem to get much more tense when their money out. That's why I hate asking my parents for money, and only do when I absolutely need it. Since it's their money they always want to know where its going and such. Regardless of the merit of your answer they generally seem to be skeptical of it. My parents aren't helping ,me pay for any of my college expenses at all and I'm slightly glad for that, at least I can make financial choices without them in the crossfire. I guess the only advice I can really give is wait it out and try talking with your mom as you seem to be planning too. Show her you appreciate the money she gives you even more than you usually do. Sometimes when people don't feel appreciated they feel like they react with anger and frustration. My parents are always that way when it comes to money.
Anyway, I hope things work out for you Vani! I really do. If you ever need someone to talk to about religion especially, I'm always around. I know you don't know me well but I've been watching you for forever and always reading your stuff. I really wish I could help in some way <3 You sound like you're a strong person Vani, and I hope things work out for the better <3
Also, on the note of commissions. You still owe me a sketch commission from a while back, I believe it cost me around $26. Would it be easier for you to pay me back or keep me on the list? Either is fine with me, I've been patient and I will continue to be, but if you'd rather have me off the list I'm fine with that as well. I could use the money, that's for sure. So let me know what you think :)
Anyway, good luck with everything ,<3
I think your entire comment is enough to make me feel better, you couldn't have said what you said any better. My parents do tend to get a little antsy when it comes to money, mostly because they weren't always so well off like they are now, and the fact that they're so old now...they're at that age where they're just like " ONE OF US COULD DIE ANY TIME SOON AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO??" My mom says this all the time, that if my dad were to die before her, she would be in big trouble. So that's why money gets her so angry in a situation like this. It's like a huge storm of being worried and frustrated all at the same time, and that's not good for her, so she tends to just...be at her worst.
I really wish I was well off on my own to not ask my parents for money, I really wish I was, but it's my parents who started the whole "Ok, you take out the loans and we'll support you with everything else ^_^;;" thing. So I was like, well ok if you say so. However now they think I'm taking advantage of that and it's really frustrating trying to argue that I'm not. Which I hope to express to her in my letter I'm going to write out to her, since it's hard to talk to her face to face about these sorts of things.
Thank you! Since you're one of my clients that have been waiting for a really long time, that makes you a priority for me on my refund list. So, I can definitely give you the money back.
Great, would you like me to pm you my paypal so you have it when you're ready? <3
I do hope things get better for you :3
I don't really have much of a point, other than it caught me off guard a bit how familiar a lot of that sounded/read. I do, thankfully, have a positive relationship for the most part with mom (grandmother), but she can still be really close-minded a lot of the time without even meaning to be, there's just such a vast cultural difference between their time and ours, it's probably scary from both ends. To that end I screwed myself a little bit 10 years ago by rushing to get a 2-year associate's which has helped me hardly if not at all, and got out of Georgia as quick as I could. I still have to rely on my parents way too much to help me out, which saddens me greatly, but at the same time I really think I'm so much better off far away and mostly disconnected from my family. If I had to deal with them more than the occasional phone call or very rare visit still, I'd have long ago lost my marbles.
*ahem* Anyway, I digress somewhat, again I don't have much of a point other than, I hope things can smooth out somewhat for you, and I know where you're coming from. Try to focus on your college, as it sounds like that's what you want to really be doing, and keep your eyes open for the best path..one way or another I like to think the right path comes along eventually to get through everything, even if it's a path full of briers. Try not to let them get you upset and down, even though they will time and again, I'm sure. They probably do care for you a lot, it's just that they're clueless and in their own little universe; but I'm sure you already know that, too. :) Reading some of that even made me grit my teeth though and want to bap yer mum on the head. XD heh
I'm glad there are others out there that can understand where I'm coming from because when I'm really down about it, I always feel like I'm kind of alone or something lame like that. I feel the same way about my parents, which is one of the things they don't get, I am so much better when I'm not with them. Being with them drives me up a wall and being stuck at home always makes me feel pretty miserable and I'm always in a really bad mood. This they don't understand at all, and they think it's me getting away from them and trying to hide stuff from them. I do however like keeping in touch with them, like phone calls every now and then, but that's about it. Visits can wait until Christmas or something of the like.
Thank you for your insight though, I mean, it really helps to know that there are other people out there with the same problems. I'm going to try and make this my better year at a college and see what the outcome is. C:
But honestly, I've been a fan of your art and everything for years. Hopefully, since I believe in karma, that will save you from all the bad in the end. Keep you head up, put up a fight, and don't give up on what you want to do. Your amazing talent with art is honestly your meal ticket out of all of this at some point in your future.
till then... -internet hugs-
There are counselors at my school, I actually have one I've been assigned to to see at least once a week since I "technically" was put on anti-depressants. I don't take them anymore, but I do like having someone to vent to at least once a week, it keeps me feeling pretty positive. I was really tempted to go see one of them when all of this happened, but I'm better now, so if the worst does happen when school starts I do have my counselor I can speak with about everything.
Thank you for the support <33 I really appreciate it.
I sure hope they read your letter properly, even if they don't accept it I hope they can understand.
these are reasons im scared half to death to start college, my parents are already.... odd as it is, and im living off minimum wage at a shitty job :\...
You're not a 'fag' or 'pussy' for crying xD strong people also cry <3 trust me, if i were in your shoes right now, i'd do the same :C
i really hope things let up :C you dont deserve this kind of treatment
Yeah, college is scary, that I didn't realize up until now. But eh, you've gotta face it at some point I guess and be ready to expect the worse.
Thanks Rhia!
I can't begin to imagine what you are going through, and i don't really know what i can say without repeating the others or sounding lame!
Well, i'll just say i really really really hope that things work out ok in the end for you. You are a lovely person (even though i have never really spoken to you! XD) and you don't deserve this bullshit. This is not fair and you are perfectly entitled to be angry.
xx *big hugs*
Thank you so much <3 -hugs-
Have you looked into (or asked teachers about) grants and subsidized loans?
As a side thought, are your parents over sixty? If this behavior is recent, it might be a result of mixed medications (antibiotics, heart meds, painkillers, etc) from a doctor. My grandmother's doctor once told her that adjusting medication for people as they get older becomes progressively more difficult due to their metabolism slowing down. Once an older person is taken off of a pill, it can actually take months before it's entirely out of their system. As a result, medications that shouldn't be mixed due to side effects (such as personality swings) can get mixed together together for months at a time. If this is a sudden change in personality, it might be a good idea to ask your aunt to quietly contact their doctor and ask about any changes in medications, and what possible side effect could occur if the previous medication was somehow mixed with the newer ones.
Again, good luck.
And remember, don't let others cause you to lose confidence in yourself. I may only have your posted work to go one, but I would say beyond a doubt you are talented and hard working. The world needs more people like you, and speaking on behave of the world, we need you healthy and happy! So keep your friends close, and keep in mind that everything bad eventually passes with time.
Yes, my parents are over sixty. This behavior isn't really out of the normal for them, it's just a more extreme kind of their normal behavior if that makes any sense. So it's nothing new, just a little extreme since my mom apparently claims to have lost all of her money. I doubt this because she's always telling me she keeps up with her money, so if the money was the last bit of what she had, she wouldn't have given it to me at all. Me and my roommate both agree it's just an attempt to scare me into coming back home, so I'm not going to give into it.
Thank you <3 I plan to stay positive through all of this, something tells me that this isn't over yet.
This mostly regarding my dad rather than my mom, but my mom did pull the whole screaming at me, calling me worthless bit once. It did not feel good, I tell you what.
You want to know why I'm living in LA? It's because my family was falling apart and I wanted the HELL out of there. Opposite side of the country so when I said "oh hey I can't come home now the trip is SUCH an ordeal" it was the truth. Of course now I get bitched at by my dad for living in a "liberal/socialist state" (go figure, apparently CA isn't part of the US) but I can always hang up.
Made graduation a bitch though.
That's barely scratching the surface of course (there's a whole ugly ordeal involving an ex-wife that's a novel in of itself), but I can honestly say that even though I'm WAY anxious about being out of school now and finding my own way, it's a helluva lot better than sitting in school and wondering if I'll even get there in the first place. And I've made my skills well known enough and struck up good enough friendships with my teach that I might just actually get a JOB now. That's a way nice thing in this crapsack economy we've found ourselves in. Be happy you're getting out later, it's incremently getting better.
Regarding the religion thing, meh. I thankfully didn't grow up in an environment where I was pressured to take sides or whatever. I was always pretty ambiguous about religion since my father was Jewish and my mother Protestant. Seeing both sides made me realize there wasn't any difference between people fundamentally and religion and even differences in spirituality (personal or otherwise) were these faint lines in the sand that divided people in the most arbitrary of fashions. That made me agnostic. Logic progressed me to atheism. I could argue further, but the point is that don't feel like you've gotta force yourself into a shell to be accepted by these people. You won't be happy in the long run unless you're making decisions for yourself and what's important to you, not to please other people in all the wrong ways. Whether that leads you to where they want you to go, or continuing as an agnostic/atheist, or finding some other philosophy to adhere to, I think it ought to be a personal choice and not one demanded of you.
I can totally see where you're coming from though. :[ It's really good to hear that you're in line for a job now, that's really exciting! I hope things go well for you, you really deserve it. You are incredibly talented, and your talent shouldn't go to waste.
I am kind of hoping the shitty economy thing is a little better by the time I graduate, just so I won't be so worried about how I'm going to start paying back these loans. Thinking about that terrifies me so much.
You're really lucky to have grown up in an environment like that. I grew up in a neighborhood where everyone was heavily christian. Like...idk, they treated it like a cult, and if you weren't one of them something was obviously wrong with you and you were some sort of devil spawn. Seeing how those types of people treated others like crap on a constant basis, and treating their "fellow" christians like crap (including myself), it turned me pretty agnostic, especially when a really close friend of mine got abandoned by all of our friends because he decided he was an athiest. We just kind of conformed together and said "Hey, fuck you guys and bigotry ways of thinking." Soon, logic about religion all together also worked it's way in for me and now I'm just..permanently agnostic. It was for the better too, I felt like a load was lifted from my shoulders when I made that decision for myself. My parents weren't too happy though haha.
The INSTANT I graduate, my Dad starts getting on my case about not having a job. According to him, Mr. "I graduated in the 80s during a tech boom" he got FLOWN AROUND THE COUNTRY for interviews and had a job straight outta college, AND he double majored in electrical engineering and chemistry!
Whoopdeefreakin' doo. A by the numbers major plus one in its infancy. I won't say it weren't hard, but he wasn't trying to crank out a 10 minute animated film for over a YEAR while also taking other animation classes. USC's film program is brutal, and the animation division no better. Even the production kids bug their eyes out when they hear we've got to make at least one full film per class, and I've had several where it was a film every week.
Animation! By ourselves!! No assist from anyone, not even for thesis. The prod kids get a crew of 8 and maybe make A film.
So knowing this and knowing that now was not the time to focus on getting a job, I threw EVERYTHING into making that thesis as goddamn beautiful and compelling as I could. I eeked out portfolio work on the side, did commissions, and worked on multiple projects to network the HELL out of that school so I'd have some sort of web to wrangle once I left college.
Explained that to my dad, he didn't give a damn. Nope, fuck the bad economy and being in a high demand business where I'm competing against outsourcing to get a position, I have to have a job now! And health insurance! Because you know how easy and cheap it is for 20 somethings to have health insurance without a job in the US.
I know cranking out films are not easy, that and just animating in general is not an easy sport. However no matter how much you try to explain to your parents about the trials and hardships of art and animation, they still blow it over because it's not as outstanding as some sort of engineering or technical or some lame academic job. NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!
I tell my parents about everything I'm doing and still treat it like some sort of pushover, and it's really frustratiing. Gah. >: So I know exactly what you're talking about.
Candorian
My two cents, for whatever they are worth:
1.) Please don't make excuses for your parents' behavior, it's discriminatory, thoughtless, and rotten. I'm sure they love you but they are acting like bigots and while they might generally be good people, they sure as HELL are not acting like good people, at least not towards you.
2.) Have you ever tried to stage a sit down with them and calmly explain why you believe what you believe and that it hurts your feelings when they accuse you of lying/stealing? I know it sounds hokey as shit but it might put some awareness in their heads.
3.) Dishonesty is a terrible thing (most of the time) but there is inherent utility in cases such as yours, I believe. I feel slimy just by suggesting it, but perhaps you should consider telling them you are christian to appease them. Yes, I know, what a horrid thing to posit but your college career and entire future are on the line. I of course hope it doesn't come to that, but it's an option. *Ducks incoming beration*
4.) It is possible to do Ringling and a job at the same time IF you take a severely reduced class load (become a part-time student) and are okay with not finishing in 4 years. But generally, I feel comfortable in saying that Ringling + job at the same time = NOT HAPPENING! Ringling is almost militaristic and extraordinarily tough; definitely not a party school. The only people who would label Ringling a pushover school are people who have never seen what a Ringling class load looks like.
You have my condolences and I hope things work out for the better. If there's anything at all I can do to help, let me know.
2) Yes, I have tried to sit down and tell them about my feelings, but it always ends in anger and I can never get out everything I want to say because my parents like to constantly interrupt to get their say in. So this is why I have to write a letter to them, to get everything out about how I feel so they can try and understand for once. I remember wanting to talk to them about it before I left, but my mom wouldn't stop her ranting, so I just left so I could leave and get some time to myself.
3) You know, I actually considered this. However, that would be a dangerous thing to do. You see, if I were to do this, they would want to hold some huge celebration and get me baptized and THEY would want to see it and they would expect me to go to church with them every time I come home. I don't think it would be worth it. No, not at all. Staying at church from 8 am to 2 pm is not cool.
4) Yes, it will probably be possible for a short time though. This semester I can probably do it, next semester I am not too sure of. However I am willing to give it a try and see how I can adjust my schedule to get work in. More than likely I will have to get an on campus job though. However, I will probably be able to get a job my senior year since I will be part time then, since I switched majors...that added on an extra year for me. My parents know nothing about what a work load from Ringling is, they assume it's very mediocre and easy to do since it's not academics or anything.
Thank you so much <3 I'll keep that in mind.
You switched majors too, huh? Lemme guess: Animation to illustration?
I meant what I said about helping out. I live in Punta Gorda and am a stone's throw away from Sarasota. I have art supplies, can send; paintbrushes, paints, a toolbox, clay, Sculpey, pencils, colored pencils. Just lemme know. :3
That would be amazing! Anything you can send and don't mind giving up would be most appreciated. <3 Especially that sculpey, oh man.
Don't let them trample you're happiness, they clearly stopped caring about it somewhere along the way.
Obviously yes, you're probably right.
Hopefully they will get rid of that fire & brimstone and find some of that love & forgiveness that is oft forgotten. =-)
Good luck :/
I thought I was having a hard time @_@
As small as it may be, I wish my good luck to you to make it through this >.<
I wish you the best of luck, people like your parents are very, very frustrating. Do not give in to them. :/ I would recommend trying to show them everything you do so they know they're supporting you properly. Ignore the dumb things they do and concentrate on what you have to do to get them to support you through the rest of college, because that's what matters for the future.
Well I dont have THAT problem in my life but I have....eh? ABout 40% of the problems you listed above. I have the whole thing were my parents just do shit for me just so they could GUILT TRIP ME about it later. :C I can say I feel for you, my mom was even all like IF YOU DONT GO TO COLLEGE IM GOING TO TAKE THAT MONEY AND PAY OFF MT DEBT n___n
And Im like WHAT THE FUCK--- It's not my fault your in debt! Even if I ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY could not get into college, I was gonna use said money to start off my life...ya know...get clothes? a car? that kinda jazz?
BUT NOOO. THATS COMPLETELY ABSURRRRRRRDDDDD. Let the mom who's finished with her life pay off her debt! FORGET ABOUT THE KID WHO SO DESPERATELY NEEDS COLLEGE. D:
nsuibhweruo. Anyway, dont let their whole "OMG YOUR A DEVIL" things get to you, your old enough to make your own kind of choice about religion and stuff. They should understand that. If they dont, their failing at life. u_u And I dont see why their giving you such a hard time...I mean honestly you seem like a good kid :/ Someone who only spends money when they have to.
WELL OTHER THAN THAT, this comes as a shocker for me. I honestly kind of envied you because you were able to pull out money to go to college no big deal. BUT THEN I SEE THIS and now I feel kinda bad for you. :C Your...stuck. ;;
I hope things get better<3
That kind of attitude, is what I have to deal with.
So since they think I'm lying to them, they're freaking the fuck out, being all like THE DEVIL OH NO!! WE WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!! and I'm just kinda like o__o;
Honestly I think it's pretty hilarious, but right now it's just ridiculous because it's come to this and they're acting like children. So eh.
No everyone thinks I'm rich, I'm not, my dad just knows how to handle money pretty well so he always has money to spare for things to help when he has to. My mom is the worst with money, she thinks she's amazing with handling money when really no, she has a horrible credit score. Also I think them helping my mother out is the real problem here, that's where all that extra money is going to. :/ I'd hate to bring that up though...
LOST A DOLLAR? ITS SATAN.
LOST A BUTTON? ITS SATAN.
BROKE A MIRROR? ITS SATAN.
And Im like CALM DOWN PEOPLE. |: NOT EVERY SINGLE THING BAD IS SATAN.
I mean I could understand if like....RUSSIA SANK or something...then yeah...but sometimes they say its EVERYTHING.
Its not that I thought you rich It's just that you guys were able to pay for it with little to no hassle prior that I kinda envied. D:
You and I are in the same boat and the same shit happening at the same time and it is extremely creepy.
Only difference is.. the good news.. I applied for a grant, said they would give it to me, went to the school, but then rejected it because since I am under 24, I am dependent and need my mothers Tax forms.... WHICH IS STUPID... because we are not on good terms and I support my mate and I with EVERY BILL on just commission money alone because her job fucked her over.... I wish I could give refunds like you.... and receive that $6250 in the mail, but every glimmer of hope I get to have money, burns out and I am in darkness again.
About your mother, yes my mom is exactly like that as well. She is a christian with that complex, and to make it worse I am lesbian and let go of my faith because i think religion is just bogus and a sad way to escape the world, its no different than taking drugs imo, it makes you brainwashed/dead, and paranoid.
But all things aside, she the type of woman that will NOT admit she is wrong, never. How do I deal with it? Ignore it and be polite. She makes me cry everyday because I get to upset, but I learn not to bite the hand that fed me.
Maintain your cool, and pretty much agree with what she says until you are independent and can support yourself, by yourself.
What she says about your art really...upsets me. One thing my mother did was support my art and she WANTS me to become an artist, but I am in college to be a Forensics Detective, which she is ok with too, just finds it odd.
But by god if someone has talent like you they SHOULD show it.
You keep doing what you do...because that is what defines you, and allows you to go on the next day. There is no shame in taking pride for what you love.
I know this might come off as really weird...and i never do this so I apologize.
This is my AIM "LemonDipper0" and my msn "dip_o_whip@hotmail.com"
Hit me up on one of them, you can rant all you want, I always invite people from FA to just talk or something.
I am a good listener and it sounds like you need some healing, help, and support.
It's awesome that you're making enough to support both yourself and your mate, the more power to you for keeping it up as well, like I mentioned before, having too much will burn me out completely and I don't think I could handle it. Actually I know I can't.
My mom would probably hate me twice as much too if I told her I was a lesbian or something. ]: I'm going through this weird sexuality crisis right now, and if I even told my parents that they would lay down a huge smack down on me for even thinking about same sex relations. It's insane, so I plan on keeping that sort of thing to myself until something "official" happens. It's for the better...just the other day I told my mom I avoided this guy that tried getting in contact with me by telling him I was gay. ( I do this all the time with guys that try hitting on me and I just...don't like them.) xD; She got so frustrated by the fact that I told someone that, so just think of what she would do if that were actually true and set in stone. Augh.
Basically I am trying to abide by her wishes until I'm independent, but it's hard when she won't believe me when I'm telling the truth. q_q; It really is.
My parents don't really care too much for my art, at least I don't think so, they don't really take much notice of it or anything. Whenever people tell them I'm really talented, they just kind of shrug it off like it's no big deal. Eh.
It's not really weird at all, I wouldn't mind talking to you. C: I need more aim buddies anyways. Thank you for the offer <3
And trust I know how hard that is, my mom ALWAYS thinks I am lying or out to get her.
For example....
2 days ago my mother was getting really upset at me not knowing which college courses I was going to take.
When on the website it says TBA you never know what will come up. And it turned out it was an internet course.
I told her i did not know because it was TBA, she replies with "Carrie I think you are lying to me and stalling for whatever reason so you dont have to go to college" and I replied back with "...no.... I just had mother fucking surgery not even a week ago and I am fucking exhausted and resting LIKE YOU TOLD ME TO".
She kept making me repeat things, and I am not supposed to be talking due to my voice and scarring in my throat from the surgery, so I try to speak my way through the situation, then ended up screaming because I was mad and ripped my scabs and bled,..
We both have parents that there is no pleasing to, you do what they want and they get pissed. It's hard to deal with...
This is where I want you to come live with my family ;___;
-Your parents should respect all and any beliefs you have because they love you, even if you were a bloody satanist or something.
-I don't know whether this would make any difference (and I guess they're not talking to you anyway which doesn't help ;_;) But at some point it might be worth trying to point out that the world is in a recession and if you want to be successful in life it would REALLY FREAKING HELP to have been at college. Employers tend to like that. You get a degree and there's a better chance they won't have to pay for you anymore ;__;
-I agree with Silverone in that sitting them down when you can and telling them it's really hurtful to have them insinuate that you're the devil spawn :| And it may also help to supply them with a rough run-down of what you spend their money on, if you can.
But... otherwise, I don't know. :/ That really sucks, hun. I'm happy to help in any way I can, although that's probably fairly limited considering I'm a) in another country and b) pretty damn poor. :/
and sorry to hear, hope it turns out for the better with your mom(s)
I can sympatize (it's my dad though, not my mom)
The only bit of advice I can give is if they do really cut you off, most Universities will give more student aid to students who are on their own. That might help a little? I hope thing go better for you! ;_____;
buuuuut
I read the whole thing. And I'm thinking? That maybe, your parents/grandparents are worried that you're becoming like your mom? and not telling them? And they're just assuming that's what you're doing? IDK.
I mean, I can see where they're coming from, but it's not really..right that they're not listening to you.. at all :I
Hopefully writing a letter to them will work, since they'll be able to just sit down and read it and you won't have to worry about screaming, or them interrupting you or something
Anyway, about my commission, you can just forget about it, and keep the money. Don't refund me, you need it more. I don't even like..buy anything ever. It's okay.
Also, I hope I never come off as being like.. a suck up to you or anything, cus that's not my intention
I'm just a person who genuinely cares about other people.
Like I have this friend in school, one of those people you only really talk to when you see them? You don't hang out with them or text them. And even then it's just chit chat, nothing serious.
Anyway so right now she might end up in the hospital because she's really low on platelets in her blood like.. you're supposed to have 100,000 and she has 13,000. And anyway I was just
crying
over this yesterday because I felt so bad
and I barely know her
okay pointless story aside, I want to help you in any way I can.
Yeah.
I remember you told me this before, how you're parents are crazy christians and hate people who don't believe what they believe. I can't really help but chuckle at Christians like that cause in the bible apparently you're supposed to love everyone cause GOD loves everyone. Yet your parents call you devil spawn? Come on now that's just silly.
I hate parents that call their kids fat, ugly and what have you. Parents aren't supposed to do that. They're supposed to love unconditionally. It makes me upset really..
All parents have their faults but yours seems to be out of control. I'd say talk to them about how you feel about everything, but when I read that they wont pick up the phone when they see you calling? that's so immature. Sending mail at least is something..
Your job problem. I'm going to be honest, don't take it personally or as an attack, but maybe there's jobs in Ringling? sure they might just be janitorial but it's something. I have friends working at my college making $14 an hour every day. They have to pay school, rent all on their own. Their parents are only helping a little with school but for their apartment it's all them. I thought you were already paying for rent? I'd love to live in a apartment closer to my school but I can't afford it. I might be moving to Oakville for the summer so I can get a better job to pay for school. For saying you're too busy, I understand that since I have a job and I'm going to school at the same time, I have been for four years. If you want to have some free time for a job, if you're really dedicated to get money for your apartment, then maybe don't start a club this year. Maybe when you're not in such money troubles? so you can make it easier on yourself. Sure we're in a recession but have you tried hanging out resumes? Have you gone to jobs around your apartment/college and handed out resumes to see if they might call you? I go to college, an art college, all week and I work all weekend. Getting a job isn't out of the question. You just have to manage your time properly.
It's harder to get money these days. It's hard but at least it's something. Don't always fall back on commissions. Keep maybe a few to the side for extra cash for cons or art supplies but you don't want to end up overwhelming yourself like before.
That said, I really hope you can make it through Ringling. I'm always on MSN if you need to rant more or something. I'm rooting for you<3
Here's a virtual hug since I can't give it to you irl
-HUG-
I cant say that I know what your going through but I know what how you feel with the ranting that you get from your parents. They do seem to be over reacting and a bit harsh to say the least. Its like the older generation dont take time to listen to the younger and actually hear what you have to say, its the same with my parents because they believe that I will do like my brother and REPENT of my sins. Basically if I have to ride with them to church they will sit there and tell me how horrible I look and then my mother would say. "Well when the holy ghost comes back, things will change." They talk about me as if I wasnt there. Lol. Not that I mind though, the only reason why they act like this is because they dont like the one person that I love most and honestly I would give them up quickly for her. Not saying I dont love them and appreciate them for what all theyve done, Its just I am who I am. As you are who you are.
Your mom really shouldnt be that way because of what all has happened. I think its safe to say that shes being a bit selfish. Shes having to pay more than what she originally had to. And shes having a fit over it like a little spoiled child. When people get used to something they dont want to let it go. That is why religious (Older gen.) Tend to think that you will be back to normal with a little beating of words. I hope the letter does work and I hope she does read it. She needs to look on the other side other than her own and actually acknowledge what you have to say, I mean your a human being with needs as much as she has, and you cannot help what you cannot help, they just fail to see the other sides of the story. :\
Hope things get well with you Vani. I hate that you have to go through this because you are a good person. And it also does good to cry a bit as well because like most when I get upset I go into pussy tears too. Lmao. |D Good wishes and good luck.
And the issue of the money when you're from THE BIG CITY. I kinda get that :/ My dad works in the capital of my country so that means that WE GOT TO BE VERY RICH AND SHIT AT CLOSET WITH MONEY. It's sad, really :| My parents don't spend money on stupid things and are rather provident, and that's why we could afford a house with garden and such. Though people still think that's because my dad works in Warsaw, HEY HE HAS TO EARN A LOT OF MONEY. They don't even see that he has to be away from home for the entire week. Stupid people. I don't know why they think that way, and from what you're saying it looks the same everywhere on Earth.
I also know that few students can afford getting themselves a job. It's very hard to stand Uni/collage and a job at the same time :/ Though I'll begin my studies in a month (and I know that I will NOT have much free time) my parents think that I'll be able to take a job. I just hope that they will notice how little time I'll have and they will throw away that stupid idea of having a job.
D'uh. I just hope that all your problems will disappear soon. I can't do anything to help you besides giving a virtual hug :C
*HUGS VERY TIGHTLY*
Anyway, what I'm really trying to get across is, there are people out there who understand. I'm sorry you are going though it. Maybe time will help, maybe they will cool down. Who knows? But if you need to vent, vent...there are people out there who will try to help. =3
I sorta wonder why parents can be like that... it's not the end of the world if you have different beliefs. I get along fine with my family... and even though we follow the religion it can still be a hassle being around them 24/7 (so maybe it's just a combination of everything with you, and religion is a convenient blame?) Talking it over with them in a calm area/time of day might be good... maybe over lunch or dinner?. Some other people recommended letters, and that sounds like a good idea as well. xD
I know nothing about Ringling, but I can empathize the loans are probably terrible. D: I remember looking at some private schools, and I know I could have never afforded them (my parents refused to cosign on any loans, instead encouraging me to go to a public university).
You can do it, hon! <3 *hug* Good luck and I hope everything works out for the better.
It's just wrong of them to say those sorts of things to you. :/
They should be supportive of you. You're a very good artist who's going to college to make something of your talent and skill.
Would they really prefer you to do something like flipping burgers in McDonalds?
I think writing a letter is a good idea. Get down on paper how you feel, how their words hurt you and how you need their support.
Even if you need to re-write it several times until it sounds right it's a good idea getting your feelings down to really let them know how you feel.
I hope things look up for you. :c
Parents should be supporting and caring and though yes honest, but telling your child their hair style is disgusting? What the heck!? My mother would never do that. In fact she tells me it looks nice how it is when I'm the one who's like "It looks terrible! It's all fuzzy and unmanagable." (I have wavey hair too, I hear your pain) We are meant to be our worst critics not our parents. They need to be supporting and atleast deliver their different views constructively and not all "Waaah you fail at life! D:" Psssh. I definitely think they are over reacting and I certainly hope and pray things get better and that they stop being silly and start helping you again, and get over their petty differences and love you for who you are. I'm the youngest of four and my parents don't treat my older sister, who is also in the same position as you in the belief department, any different. Even though she often playfully refers to herself as the black sheep, Mum is always saying "You are not the black sheep!" and often refers to us as all being her babies. :P But yeah
I wish I was closer to you because I'd totally give you as much support as I possibley could give. AAAAAND if you ever want someone to rant too, (even if you don't expect an answer but just want someone to listen) just so you can get it off your chest.. by all means let me know. :) I'm always willing to help. (My best friend knows this well, she always lets me know of her marriage and life grievances even though I've been single my entire life (yep, that's right.. sucks big time but I guess I'm used to it) she still talks to me about it to get it off her chest and it helps) Funny thing is, I also get it from Mum, hehehe, she's like "Why are men like this. >_<' "
And I'm like "I know right. ^_^"
But seriously...
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have no idea.
But I think having a lot of friends that are guys and having two older brothers. I'm a great observer and tend to understand people fairly well to still have an answer for my friend why men do what they do. Lol!
Somehow I think I'm very well prepared with knowing some of the pros and cons with married life.
(Now to get back on track >_>...)
But hey, you're making something of your life, God gave you that talent, and it's up to you to use it, and if your parents are not being helpful at all about your future, then take what my Mum told us (and would also tell you because she becomes everyones Mum :P ) this to heart: Follow your Passion. If art is your passion then follow it. My Sister did, she loved horses so much, she made it her career. Now she lives in Dubai, is an International Liason for the Horse racing industry, and does Dressage one the side. :D Unlike you, I have been lazy with my art skill, and should actually follow my older sister Tracy's example. A habbit I'm trying to break from is procastination and laziness. Because I have such a phlegmatic personality it back fires. OH and... if I could support you financially, I totally would. :(
;3;
So yeah - I totally get what you're going through right now. It's not easy sitting there, taking critique and attacks from the people who were supposed to be the ones to support you. I don't have any "advice" since I'm struggling with similiar issues, but all I can offer is "Good Luck" and a cyber hug. /D;;
I lol'd a bit at that. Not at you, but just the fact that your parents would outright say that about everyone in a state.
They shouldn't ever come down here, we'll sic the armies of old people on them.
[They're worse than the wildlife.]
All joking aside, I really do hope things get better.
I can understand how you feel with your mothers, because mine is very similar. [Not that I'm going to start that comparing horrible parents shit. That's ridiculous when people do that.]
I am, however, going to say what little happy things I can.
A lot of people here on dem en-turrnetz look up to you, and admire you. We love you for who you are and care about your welfare.
You bring happiness to many people, from what I can tell, and are a good person.
You're a tough, strong person, who seems to deal with more shit all the time.
I can't say 'think of this as a challenge', or 'things will get better soon', but I can wish you the best of luck and hope you can pull through alright.
I hope this comment helps, even if just a leetle bit.
Namely..
No offense, but I think that your family, all of them it sounds like, are the type that the world could use a lot less of, to put it mildly. To be honest.. if you can at all, do not rely on them for anything so you can be your own person, and not who the fuck they want you to be because their view of things are obviously skewed beyond belief. You do not need that type of relationship.
I'm going to leave it at that in case whatever semblance of a familial relationship you have left with them wants you to not see them insulted.
OH! AND DON'T CHANGE YOUR HAIR! IT'S FUCKIN AWESOME!!
Then again, as a Grad Student I can get assistant positions with professors that bring the costs down nicely while still contributing to my overall schooling. I don't know if you have that same luxury (or anything similar) over at the school.
Good luck!!
That took a lot to disclose the problem/your family like this, and it's beyond frustrating when you feel like a situation won't change.
But you have many supporters, bot irl/at the school itself and of course, online. We're rooting for you!
If you're interested btw, the library or Roskamp center may be options for jobs. I'd suggest CAB...but that can get very time consuming, methinks.
um SORRY ASH I'M ABOUT TO GET REALLY CRAZY
it makes me SO FRUSTRATED when people do this. Because it's NOT what Christianity teaches. It sounds to me like the people around you act like Christianity is supposed to be some... legal... moral set of rules and it's just.. not
The last thing we as Christians should be doing is acting like we're better than others for it. It's just.. so antithetical to the whole thing. I mean okay
I'm pretty narrow as far as believing that what I believe is the truth, I absolutely believe it is. But I try to hold an appreciative view, not one that says I'm "better". I'm not better than ANYONE, I can be really selfish and really mean. In my experience--as people grow as Christians they tend to realize their own faults and how much they need to be forgiven-- not confessing everyone ELSE'S problems and acting like it's some... elitist club they're a member of or someething IDK I'M NOT EXPLAINING WELL AND IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE I'M RANTING AT NOBODY IN PARTICULAR but dhkgdkgh GOING TO CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY DOESN'T MAKE YOU GOOD. ghdhdfk ):
I mean, I can understand that if your parents believe in the same one truth I do that they are concerned.. but honestly, treating you worse is not the thing to do about that. It makes it seem like they only want control and for you to CONFORM more than it seems like they are concerned for you out of care for you. ):
That's really hard... I've had to deal with my family not being able to help me take out a loan for college, let alone pay for it but... to have the means and not help your daughter? IDK what they think that's going to help. Also it isn't very Biblical of them, 8|
I'm sorry your parents are being so frustrating ):
I don't need a refund, I'm quite patient. xD BUT, if it's easier for you to refund me, that's fine. I'd prefer the art (the badge and full commish) over the money, but I won't be upset if you need to refund instead.