I need to know what the new system is like now to make a decision on it. When I was in the Air Force (Jan 02 to July 05), it was 2 miles in 18 minutes, 42 sit-ups and 36 push-ups in 2 minutes and I believe your BMI was taken. They were going to the (or a) new system when I left.

Nowadays they test you on a mile and a half. But I have a question, the sit ups and push ups, were they both done in the same two minutes? Or did you have 2 minutes each? D:

One minute for each Push-up and Sit-up. And there are minimal scores now that you have to have. Men under the age of 30 have to do atleast 42 Sit-ups and, I think, 27 Push-ups. And lastly, the mile-and-a-half run has to be under 13:36. You have to score atleast a 75% aswell as meet the minimum score for each component. And also the waist size has changed a bit too, 35" and under is max and it drastically falls after that. I think 39" is the max for the waist.

I have done the new PT standards test, and it's pretty much the same way as the old one. Do your best. But now you got the minimums. I, unfortunately, failed my PT test but it was due to an illness, and they wouldn't let me re-schedule... Bastards... But, for the most part it's pretty much the same way as it was before. But like I said a billion times, meet the minimums or you're gonna fail.

My personal thoughts on it... I'm not too impressed with the minimums, I think they could've done without them. Because if you get max on push-ups and sit-ups, and 14:00 minutes for the run. Under the old standard, you'd pass. New, you'd fail. Air Force isn't the Army or Marines... But, if you're fit you shouldn't have a problem with it. Just keep going to the gym, do your best, and you should pass no problem. Once we get used to the new standard, it's not going to be so bad.

My word of advice, keep at it, do your best. If you fail, work harder. And most importantly, don't get sick the day before the PT test.

We'll all think it's horrible, well most of us. But once it becomes the norm, everything will be A-OK. Until they change it again.

It was 2 minutes for each. It changed to a minute for each and a mile and a half in 12 minutes after I had left.

I think pt should be every weekday. Don't give us the option to get fat. If people don't like it they can join some other air force.

Some squadrons simply don't have the manning for such things.

I hate the fact that if you fail one part, you fail the entire thing

I've yet to read up on the official AF regs on the new PT but... if it's anything like ROTC where you have to surpass the minimum AND get a certain score (i.e. above 75), then I believe it's for the best in regards to keeping fit in all testing areas rather than focussing on just pull ups or push ups or whatnot. A good AF enlisted/officer should be well rounded :3

http://www.airforce-pt.com/male-25under.html If you get under a 75 it's bad juju, referral EPR and I assume the same goes for OPR. And if you make between a 75 and 80 you go on the "Fat Boy" program at most squadrons.

Yeah. wouldn't want to get mixed up with FB or worse. Strenious training there. (even though we call the FB group the betterment program). But yeah. It just keeps the squadron, wing, or even the MAJCOMs motivated to stay in shape which, honestly, america needs x3

:3 But they are having problems with the new requirements and fail rates, a lot of full birds and MSgts are in the program these days due to new minimums and the fact that PT is now the responsibility of the individual, commanders are not required to give PT time at work anymore.

Right now the standards are running somewhere at about 12 minutes for the run minimum, and the push-ups for a male under 25 are 45 minimum. The sit-ups are sitting at 50 minimum at the moment.

Personally, I feel that anyone under 25 who can't pull off a mile-point-five in under 11 minutes needs to get out of my AF. I'm 5'11, weigh 190lbs, and never ran a day in my life before joining, and I still manage at least a 10:15 on a bad day. As far as push-ups and sit-ups, yes, they do get harder or easier depending on the size of the person, but if you aren't fit enough to pull off 45 push-ups in a minute, then you're doing something wrong. I suggest you get yourself on a strict training regiment ASAP and stop eating like a fatass.

In short, I really feel like this current regime is better than whatever there was before I came in last November. I had a taste of the old 14 minute run, but I felt like it was really a waste of our time and abilities. No, we aren't the marines or army, but when I walk around base and see NCO's that look like they could hold lucrative careers as sumo wrestlers, it makes me sick to my stomach. I wouldn't want that watching my back during a firefight; probably would have a heart attack trying to move to cover, and I'm not even trying to drag a whale carcass out of a rain of bullets.

http://www.afpc.randolph.af.mil/sha.....090820-144.pdf

That is a listing of the new standards as of 1 July 2010. There is no longer an Under 25 category, just a <30. Waist maximum is 39, 13:15-13:36 is minimum run time, 33 push ups and 42 sit ups. Those are the minimum standards. Scoring below those numbers in any category is an automatic failure regardless of your composite score.

thanks for getting those exact standards down for me. I'm current USAF, only a lowly A1C, yet I still see Staffs and Techs who can barely make even those times and numbers, and I come coasting in easy. It's a shame, really it is.

Just did a PT test on Tuesday, my sit-ups came in at 66, push-ups at 62, and I managed a 9:57 for my run. I'm still waiting for one guy to finish, more than 43 hours later.