Curious about tablets
15 years ago
General
So.
I have had and used my Wacom Graphire for abouuuut.. 6 years now. Give or take.
Now I think I've managed to develop my art skills quite effectively with just this 4x5 inch space (or I think it's 4x5.. anyway) It's basically the cheapest tablet you can get. The older version of what is now called the Wacom Bamboo without any of the buttons or dials or whatever.
Thing is, I hear people who buy these huge fancy schmancy new tablets like the intuos and the cintique, but does it really benefit you as an artist? I mean, I don't see how MORE space on a tablet would be that beneficial.. and I still have a good degree of sensitivity in the pen. The only feature I might like is the buttons that they've added.
So I'd like to hear from some folks who have actually found that having a bigger, better tablet is beneficial to their work, and why. I don't care about the fact that it's "more space" because I don't use a tablet like I would a real canvas anyway.. who does? Maybe I'm using it wrong? Are you supposed to hold your hand above the tablet without touching it? I'd lose a lot of control that way.
Anyway, lots of questions. I'd just like to see what some folks have to say. :>
I have had and used my Wacom Graphire for abouuuut.. 6 years now. Give or take.
Now I think I've managed to develop my art skills quite effectively with just this 4x5 inch space (or I think it's 4x5.. anyway) It's basically the cheapest tablet you can get. The older version of what is now called the Wacom Bamboo without any of the buttons or dials or whatever.
Thing is, I hear people who buy these huge fancy schmancy new tablets like the intuos and the cintique, but does it really benefit you as an artist? I mean, I don't see how MORE space on a tablet would be that beneficial.. and I still have a good degree of sensitivity in the pen. The only feature I might like is the buttons that they've added.
So I'd like to hear from some folks who have actually found that having a bigger, better tablet is beneficial to their work, and why. I don't care about the fact that it's "more space" because I don't use a tablet like I would a real canvas anyway.. who does? Maybe I'm using it wrong? Are you supposed to hold your hand above the tablet without touching it? I'd lose a lot of control that way.
Anyway, lots of questions. I'd just like to see what some folks have to say. :>
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imagine you're drawing sometihng on an 8x11 paper. since it is big it lets you work correctly on any detail you wish since you got alarger space of work and can handle your hand better. its the same on a bigger tabby. i've tried it and it is good!. however. i can only find it well.. only in that part >_> i still posess my 4x5 tablet and i work perfectly on it, my gallery says it all!.
Controlling your hands for smooth lines isn't an issue if you zoom in either.
I just started drawing and im not sure if i will get into it
IF i do i might get a tablet i have no idea what im doing im a complete nub XD Help me morca =P
The cintiq does look cool
Honestly, I almost wish I had that instead.. that's portable at least. :P
I have one of the largest tablets of its class (the ones that don't have the drawings appear right on the tablet) and I actually, for the longest time, have not been able to use most of it.
Why? I was a moron a month after I got it and bashed my mate over the head with it.
It still worked, but only a small corner did, like about as big as the tablet you have been using is.
I learned to work around that just fine - I actually preferred having a larger size cause it could fit nicely on my lap, despite the smaller working space.
Miraculously, today my tablet kind of 'fixed' itself - I can use pretty much the entire tablet, except for a half-cm strip near the top that I can easily work around.
I like that my hand can run smoothly over the large tablet, letting me feel like I have more 'freedom'
Now, I have only been using my fixed tablet for a day, but so far, I say a larger tablet is just nice on the hands, specially when you're a lazy artist like me who places the tablet on her lap and draws there XD
I recommended my tablet: the Adesso CyberTablet M14
It's huge, very pen-sensitive, and cheap. Like, ALOT cheaper than most tablets these days. It has lots of options on it and even a bunch of programmable quickkeys around the working space (I personally never use them tho)
Only drawback is that it doesn't have a 'eraser' on the end of the pen, but I got used to that pretty fast.
Hope I helped a little :3
There is a huge difference in tactile feel, though. And the sensitivity difference is HUGE. I went from a graphire 3 to an intuos4 and i will never go back XD
I've found it easier for my arm/wrist to draw w/ larger tablets (not HUMONGOUS, just a bit larger) b/c I work w/ very large canvas sizes and computer resolutions for that matter. I still work the same, it's just less pain on my whole arm and a feeling of more freedom for me when drawing (my fingers do a lot of the drawing when I'm drawing traditionally, and my wrist is the one doing the drawing instead...and I mean A LOT, when I draw w/ my small tablet. w/ larger tablets it varies but it verges on the more 'easier' aspect). Dunno if I'm even making sense here. XD lol
I'm not sure how a larger tablet would help if you are used to a little one. It also would probably depend greatly on what you set the settings to be for the new tablet. The larger tablet would allow you to bake larger brushstrokes I suppose, or enable you to work with finer details.
Personally, I have no experience with tablets. I DO have one, but never got around to trying to use it. Perhaps I could try installing it on my laptop, since I usually do most of my work away from home, I just don't want to break my tablet, so I need to find a way to safely transport it.
As for the buttons and functions the tablets allow for, it can severely reduce the number of clicks/button mashing rage fits you can suffer otherwise. For instance on the intuous3 and 4 they have sliders that allow you to zoom in and out with just a flick of the wrist, not to mention that you get a total of 8 programmable macro keys (Control+Z is my freaking sanity saving button x3 )
As for how to draw using a tablet there isn't any super special way for it. But to reduce on getting grime on the tablet surface you can buy a glove cutting off the thumb, first and middle finger. So that your hand can glide across the surface, without having to grasp the pen through a glove and get that weird feeling from normally drawing with a glove covering every part of your hand.
Granted I doubt I did much in helping you answer your questions, but if you have more feel free to pm me :3
On my medium sized tablet, I usually have a better time drawing, but I have a laptop, so I don't have any room on the desk to have my tablet sitting, so I usually have to adjust my seating posture and have the tablet in my lap. That's where hand-laying surface has an even bigger role. :P
As far as the different varieties of the tablets: oooh, aaah, oh my god, one's a screen and the other isn't, whoaaaaa dude, that's so off the wall cuhrayzeeeeee!
So in other words, I'm fine with my bamboo, just as long as I have spare nibs and as long as it keeps working without a hitch.
DON'T TOUCH BAMBOO!
I had a medium bamboo fun when they first came out, if you like the fake feel of "paper" with a tablet then maybe but I swear that shit runs pen tips down horribly, that and they feel cheap compared to the standard Intuos series, I just never liked the one I had, returned it and got me a Intuos 3 6x8 and its been like sweet buttery sex ever since.
I'd say Medium is just the right size for most everything simply because it gives you more flexibility in how you draw.
Not only that but it tends to be less jittery on your strokes while attempting a longer stroke or moving slowly.
If you experiment with something new, (which is a great way to expand your skills,) you can make larger strokes with things such as paints (Painter).
Also, if you're curious on trying new methods, the Intuos line includes the ability to tilt (all tablets include this pen) or even rotate (I think that's the art pen only)
The buttons are godsend at times as well. You can program anything to them and even go as far as use the wheel to replace certain buttons.
If you spend the time on it, you could work your entire program with only the hotkeys and wheel. The intuos software includes the ability to have radial menus that are specific to programs.
That could be used to, say, bring up the brush windows, switch tools, perform an action, etc etc etc.
One idea could be to use the wheel to do undo/redo depending on what direction you swipe (and you can lower/raise sensitivity to make it a smaller/larger swipe)
Both the Bamboo and Intuos 4 do have the textured surface as well which gives a nice feedback, however it wears on the nibs. This doesn't matter too much with the intuos 4 however
You're given 10 nibs to experiment with by default and a nib remover for convenience (it's all hidden in the pen stand)
Another great thing is that the intuos 4 line has more than one pen to work with, should you want to expand on that.
Also the intuos 4 line now has a wireless equivalent (medium size only) which would be great if you have a nice monitor and just want to relax back in your chair as you draw without a long cord trailing.
If you don't want to go THAT far, the bamboo is still a solid upgrade. The new models include touch as well which can be quite useful (or a curse). It has just a pen version too, however.
They're nice in that they're much cheaper as well, but be careful of the nib wear still.
My conclusion? I found even the small 4x5 to be quite usable. But 6x8 was better. And the 9x12 was much better still.
Why? A few reasons.
First, the closer the tablet is to the size of your screen, the better. The human brain readily handles the idea that your hand and the image you're drawing on are in different places. No problem. However, reconciling differences in scale between hand and eye is a problem. I found that my sketches were substantially better on the 9x12... mostly for this reason.
Zooming the image in and out, btw, has no effect on that equation. Relative cursor movements on the screen (as opposed to the virtual canvas) versus the tablet surface are the issue.
Second, the larger tablets allow for finer detail in a piece. Traditionally, artists are taught to draw big. It helps. It really does. Now this issue can be minimized through zooming in and out (as you've mentioned). But still, the effect is there. It helps when you don't have to zoom in so much and so often and keep panning around because you can only work on a tiny section at a time.
Using a physically larger canvas also brings more and different muscles into play. And that makes a difference, too.
You mentioned that you thought that having the buttons may be of value over your current tablet. They very much are a big deal. They allow you to leave the keyboard behind and use the tablet alone most of the time. And also, they have touch pads that you can use to zoom in and out smoothly which is _VERY_ useful.
I know I probably sound like I'm preaching here. But basically, I did the same thing you are doing. I started with the little one. I tried to convince myself I didn't need the big one, and it was just a waste. But when I finally got it, it took my art up a solid notch or three. I only realized after owning the big one for a while how much the little one was limiting me.
Anyway, hope that helps.
I'm not sure about the Intuos.
Personally I use the intuos3 6x5 (or whatever it is). The drivers are simple and easy to get and install, it's durable and fits easily in a backpack (needed to travel a TON too and from school so the gigantamassive 12x9 would suck), and most importantly it works. A lot of cheaper tablets I've seen simply don't work for whatever reason, be it pen sensitivity, matching aspect ratio, drivers wont install, or whatever.
Long story short just use something that works and don't waste your money. I personally would never get a cintiq, as fun as they look. And working on a massive 15x12 tablet would just feel awkward, not to mention not fit anywhere on my desk!