BUT it's all about the TIMING!

YOU"LL HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD WHEN YOU"RE DEAD. LEMME GIVE YOU ROMANCE ADVICE.

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::PUNCH::

"..IF I LIKE YOU I WILL MAKE YOU KNOW BY PUNCHING YOU IN THE GOD DAMNED FACE.."

TWO BLACK EYES FROM SAYING " I LOVE YOU" and " NO I LOVE YOU MORE, BITCH"

I love how that sounds so easy. Afters years of continuous rejection, I find the resulting psychological blocks quite difficult to overcome.

WHAT ARE YOU POOR? UNKNOWN? UGLY? TIME TO GET RICH, FAMOUS, AND FABULOUS. FUCK EVERYONE ELSE, AT LEAST YOU TOLD THEM YOU LIKED THEM. THAT"S MORE COURAGE THAN MOST EVERYONE HAS. BE PROUD OF YOURSELF FOR OVERCOMING YOUR EMBARRASSMENT AND BEING AWESOME. KEEP ON TRUCKING. DON"T LET ANYONE TELL YOU OTHERWISE.

Yeah, that's what I keep telling myself, and I still fuck it up.

Hey man, don't forget most of the time it has almost nothing to do with you, there's a massive amount of chance and when it comes to that sort of thing almost every "normal" person will turn crazy!

That and women are almost programmed to just so "no". I mean, really they have to since women get asked out far more often then men especially if they fall into the "attractive" category.

Lol yeah I think if you're in a huge gamer enviroment where the gender ratio is pretty disproportionate, you're always going to find one attractive girl mobbed by a ton of guys.

But going to parties, etc... you'll definitely meet a lot of cool people that way :)

Actually I'm not in a gamer environment. I'm in Vet school right now, surrounded by 3:1 women:men.
Problem is, most of the women have boyfriends or husbands. But, more to the point, I've found that women bring up their own walls on instinct because "attractive" women are asked out so often.

As for parties, I hate most college parties and bars. Don't really drink and can't stand people who get wasted (which is all I see). And I totally blew a chance with an attractive girl I met at the gym (facepalmed myself about 3 minutes later when I walked out without getting her name). Oh well, that's life.

Honestly, I used to not drink but once I gave it a chance I found I had really been missing out, and in hindsight, I probably would have enjoyed drinking sooner.

That's called alcoholism ;)
It's not that I don't like drinking, I just haven't found a drink that I like. And I generally hate the atmosphere. And I'm not missing out on anything by not drinking. I know far too many people who can only have fun when there is alcohol involved, something I totally look down upon.

*nodnod* Yeah that's what I believe is called alcohol dependence. Thaaaaaats not so good. Of course here I am basically encouraging you to drink ;D If you get the chance you MIIIIGHT like an appletini or comsopolitan or something, those are sweet and nummy :)

I'm going on 25, so the whole "drink drink drink" peer pressure doesn't exactly work on me. The occasional Mike's Hard lemonade isn't bad, but I hate beer bleh.

ALCOHOL IS GREAT IT MAKES ME PUNCH PEOPLE FASTER

BAM!

I don't like alcohol either. =\

Even the mixed drinks. I can't stand the taste of alcohol, and even if they say I can't taste it... I do.

Yeah, kinda ruins my chances of dating when I don't drink and I hate the bar room atmosphere and I live in a town that survives only because the College Campus is here. So all there is to do here is walk from bar to bar.

Learn to play pool... hang out at bars and play pool, and hit on girls by telling them you can teach 'em how to play? xD

Actually, I love billiards and I'm quite a good player (amateur good, not professional good) but I hate bars. Hate bar tables (which suck), the noise, the crowds. There is one pool hall here, I've got plans to check it out and see if it is any good. Unfortunately I see less single women in a pool hall. I think they make decent dating areas though. Quiet enough to talk, drinks if you want them, and entertainment in the form of pool.

True that.

CHUNKS I HAVE A GIANT SUPER CRUSH ON YOU
*punches in face*

FUCK YEAH IT"S ABOUT FUCKEN TIME.

u maek me feel all merfley inside, i want to snuzzle ur muzzle

wil u b my thanksgiving valentine? i'll let u eat the hole turkey while i watch @_@

I READ THIS ALLOUD AND LAUGHTER BELLOWED INT HE HALLWAYS.

I HEARD HER READ IT ALOUD AND I BELLOWED MY APPRECIATION

GOOD
I HOPE IT MADE YOUR FATS JIGGLE

SUCCESS

I ENDORSE THIS MESSAGE... AND I ENDORSE PUNCHES TO THE FACE FOR PEOPLE YOU LOVE.
Seriously, though... I've also had trouble with this, always hearing after-the-fact crushes from guys. It really pisses me off, especially if I crushed on them as well but they didn't seem interested in my flirting. >8C










WHAT DO YOU SAY TO SOMEONE WITH TWO BLACK EYES? NOTHING, THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN TOLD TWICE!!! ~BE COOL

Did you ever ask them out on a date your self?

I did for my first high school love (after three years of trying to figure out if he liked me... only to find out HE DID)... and my current husband. They're a lot alike, personality-wise, and if my high school love didn't move away... I might have married him instead.

It takes me awhile to decide if I really, really like someone or if it's just a crush... and neither showed much interest in me beyond friendship that I could tell. Normally I won't talk until I'm positive I'm serious, or positive they feel similarly. Thank god I asked my hubby out, or I might not have ever married him. =[

There were other times when I didn't ask them out, but those were people I didn't feel as strongly about.

Men go through the same thoughts, only they are usually expected to make the attempt after first meeting a girl.

i.e. bar, club, bookstore, etc.

In my experience, becoming a woman's friend first destroys any chance of having a romantic relationship (and yes I've asked friends out on dates before) and it's really hard to ask out a person you just met, especially if you find yourself interested right away.

And you're gonna use that as an excuse? Yes, men are expected to make the first attempt... THAT'S WHY WE'RE WAITING. We expect you to, and when you don't, we think you're uninterested.

In honesty, I never met any of my boyfriends at a bar, or club, or bookstore. They were all classmates, or coworkers... or other people I was acquainted with but knew nothing about until I started dating them. If I met someone at a bar, club, or bookstore, I might've asked them out if there was a spark... or at least got their email/IM so we could stay in touch and hook up later...

As for my husband, though, we were friends before I realized I'd fallen for him. We met after Air Force Basic Training, as we were assigned to the same tech school. We did chores together every day, hung out together with friends, and basically spent a lot of time together as friends. About two months later, I realized I liked him as more than a friend, and asked him out. The rest is history.

The thing with being friends first, is you have to make your move faster. You have to do it quick, before you become too close as friends, or you'll be in the friends zone forever.

Well, it's a fault on both sides of the gender. As a guy, who has had to ask out every girl I've wanted to date, I find it very nerve wracking. It scares the hell out of me for no reason that I can understand (barring terrible highschool experience). Lots of guys go through something like this and that is what stops them, and unfortunately our society promotes men to initiate the attempt. So when a guy doesn't pursue the matter, nothing happens. What stops women from making the attempt? And yes I fully acknowledge that you did this (props to you ^.^).

As for my own personal life, I've asked out several women who I was classmates with. 1 I had classes with for 2 1/2 years and was friends with and never asked out cause she had a boyfriend and I didn't want to poach. When they broke up I asked her out (it was about 3 months after they broke up when I found out and asked) and got the classic "friendship" lines and now she won't even answer my phone calls (some friend huh?). Another girl I knew for the duration of 1 semester before I asked her out. I knew her well enough that we were social but not "friends" and yet I still got the "friends" lines. Totally sucked.

The girls I have dated, I knew nothing about before I initiated contact. And those didn't last, but at least something happened.

The reason girls don't do the asking is because: 1. some guys are afraid of strong women and freak out if you ask, 2. more guys are into relationships just for sex than women are and might take advantage of a girl who asks them out, and 3. because if the man puts no effort into the relationship, such as waiting for the girl to ask, women think the man won't be committed to the relationship or will be lazy in the relationship and make the woman do all the work.

May not all be true, but it's the thought process of most women I know, and myself. Even now, though I love my husband, I sometimes wonder if he'd ever had asked me out if I didn't do it first. Or I wonder if he married me just because it was convenient, since I make all the major decisions for us. It's really unsettling sometimes, and he has to assure me that he loves me and he appreciates me, because honestly he never had to do much in our relationship. I love him the way he is, so he has it fucking easy. =[

It's weird, but maybe you'll understand. xD

I totally understand where you're going. 1) I agree, but many guys I know like independent ("strong" may or may not be the right word) women and wouldn't be freaked out 2) Again, this is generally true, but if a girl asks a guy out that won't make her any quicker to "give it up" than if he asks her out 3) and really once the ice is broken and someone has made the first move, this would loosen up the nerves (I know it would for me) and I'd feel more comfortable moving the relationship along (i.e. not being lazy).

I've actually missed out on something "possibly" happening cause a girl never asked me out. I was at a club, moving around a bit, having a drink. Later in the night a friend I was with told me there were two girls checking me out. I didn't even know they were there, and nothing ever came of it cause they never approached me. Maybe I'm wrong and thought I looked funny, who knows, I never will.

It might not make her quicker to give it up, but the guy might expect her to give it up sooner (since she was obviously interested enough to ask him out)... and if she refuses, he might dump her for it. Might be a negative mindset to have, but as I said, more men than women go into relationships purely for sex, or desire sex right away or they'll cut it off.

I've been there. I've done that. And I've been dumped for not giving it up.

It makes it scary to show interest, because you never know if they're interested in you... or just your tits/ass/vagina.

See, both men and women have fears of approach. She's thinking he just wants sex (which she probably wants, just not as soon) and he (usually) has to deal with repeated past rejections and self doubt.

Both have valid viewpoints which makes it hard on everyone.

Yeah, but I think it's a lot easier on you and your psyche to get rejected right off the bat, instead of being rejected a few months later because you won't give it up. =\

But this is why Chunks is screamin' "TELL THEM GODDAMMIT!!!" Nothing ventured, nothing gained and all that.

Hm, from a guys perspective, dating for months and not moving on to sex usually means it isn't going anywhere. Strictly from a guys point of view : physical interaction = interest/love Men are (usually) much more physically focused, if they don't see some sort of improvement/progression in the physical relationship, they tend to feel like it isn't going anywhere. Whereas women prefer constant reminders of how much love/interest you have through compliments, presents (emotionally based not monetary), etc.

So you agree that for men, sex is all that matters to a relationship. If you're not getting your sex, might as well dump the girl because it's not going towards your goal.

Whereas women want to know the relationship is solid before having sex, because sex =/= love. Anyone can have sex with anyone, there are plenty of one-night-stands to prove that. Sex should be a result of love that is already there. So if a woman is serious about a relationship, she'll want to be sure you're devoted to her before taking that step... because we are emotional beings and sex is very strongly attached to our emotions.

It isn't about presents or compliments, emotional or otherwise. It's about honesty, trust, and devotion.

Will you go out on a date with me? :(

YOU GOT MONEY?

Bitch do you want free lobster or what?

I give you dinners at olive garden and you give me lewd mouth acts, that's how this works.

>:3 heeeeey bebe ju know whud ah like

BUT THEN IT MIGHT BE TAKEN AS SEXUAL HARASSMENT!!!

>:3

just "fuckin" telling her almost got me a restraining order...

Then you were doing it wrong...

have you seen my picture?

with a face like this, there isn't much I can do right >.<

You don't look that bad at all, actually... =)

then would you please kindly explain why I have been completely rejected by all members of my preferred genders for the last SIX Years

That depends... what type of girl you do ask out?

I have exacting standards...

they have to be WILLING... and I haven't found any yet >.<

Willing for what? You didn't answer my question... what type do you normally ask out... do you go for thin, chubby, pretty, glasses, athletic, crafty, bookish? If you have no type, or don't know what you're looking for, of course you're not going to find someone... because you're asking everything with two legs and a bra!

no, I answered your question, just not quite the way you wanted me to.

I'm not picky. looks aren't everything. I usually got for 20-45, divorced, not currently mothers. I like a few extra pounds, toothpicks are not my think but I wouldn't say no to one. glasses are sexy but not required.
a like a little meat on her bones.

but most of all: I need someone with personality. a mind and knows how to use it. that can excite my brain more than my loins.

That's a good answer. You see, I needed to know if you were in it for looks or brains/personality, so I could tell if you were just asking the wrong girls out or if there's another problem. Obviously, you're taking the time to think about your potential girls before asking them, and that means you're doing it right... so there's some other problem in there that's making your encounters negative.

I can't say exactly what it is, since I don't know you personally, but all I can think is the girls' you're asking are either already in relationships, already have someone they're looking for, or are too shallow to see beyond the weight. But usually the shallow ones don't have good personalities... =\

I'd honestly go with them being too shallow... but maybe you have a really annoying personality that I can't see over the internet?

um... not really.

I'm a bit insecure, but I'm a very nice guy.
I cook, I clean, I'm good with kids, and pretty good in the bed room.
I can be funny, entertaining, and I'm a great listener.

YOU"RE DOING IT WRONG. I AGREE WITH ADVERSITY

ADVERSITY IS THE MOTHER OF INNOVATION or something like that

omg, chunks. I totally thought you were a guy until this journal.

*shame*

lol.

I GOT MORE BALLS THAN MOST MEN.

THIS IS A STRATEGY THAT WORKS

HEY BASALT I TOTALLY WANNA GET IT ON THIS WEEKEND DO YOU? CHECK YES OR NO

[ ] YES

[ ] NO

[Y] i like u 2!! lets kiss w/ tongues lol but idk can you get pragnant from kissing 2 much i dun want babby k cool

I'll be your babby, babby

ALL MY DREAMS ARE COMIN TR00 THANKS CHUNKS FOR THE DATING ADVICE.

NO STEW FOR YOU

BITCH.



i LOVE YOU.

LETS HUG IT OUT BITCH

You're a female artist/animator that's actually talked to me and knows all about this furry crap too.

Hawt.

>:3 YEAAAAAAHhhhh

CHUNKS! I don't like you that way. I don't talk to you.

FINE I WILL HAVE TO LEARN TO ...
http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/052/8.....gif?1275684729

AWE BBY I AM ENOUGH WOMAN FOR BOTH OF YOU

>:3 YEAH YOU STILL GOOD FOR SAT?!

Funny, I do it a lot with girls I like, and it always ends in rejection and a month and a half of trouble for me (such as trying to get nutcase, psycho, wacko, lunatic, women that chase after me like the black plague off my ass). Thus, I now stand here an asexual and an a-romantic. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

I DON'T HAVE A CRUSH ON ANYONE, SO THERE.

People still insit on telling me they love me, even though I'm married with kids. Then they get mad when I laugh. I can't help but think it's a joke.

But..... what if I already DID!?!?!?!

CHUNKS YOU RULE!! WOOOOT!! TELL IT LIKE IT IS SISTAH!! PUNCH EM IN DA FAAAAAACE!! RAWR!

I wholeheartedlyagree with this, quite clearly ignoring what else has been discussed on this subject (and my car got hit while I was at work tonight, so I quite mad atm). Because I am a man.

Not just any man.

But the man your man could smell like.

You like a girl/dude? Fine. Tell her/him. If you get rejected, so what? It's a lot preferable to spending the rest of your life wondering what "could have been" or picking at a flower going "loves me, loves me not". That shit eats away at you, and it's not healthy. I've been down that before, and in retrospect it was really stupid of me to let myself get caught up in something like that.

Be MANLY. Even if you have tits, BE A MAN.

[This public service announcement brought to you by the Manly Support Group for Manly Men and this station.]

GIVE EM A BLACK EYE FOR ME!!!!!!!! -rawrs-!

and I wouldn't mind telling someone I like them. Last time I did, we didn't date but he was like 'okay, cool' and then i totally got over him. Though now I'd laugh if he likes me. ILL GIVE HIM A BLACK EYE! xD But I like believing a guy will do the first move but eh, it's almost 2011. Time for me to change my ideas.

CHUNKS THIS IS TERRIBLE ADVICE WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU.

In other news, this one time I told this guy I liked him over email and then I ran into him and it was SUPER AWKARD.

BUT THEN THIS OTHER TIME I told this guy I liked him and NOW WE ARE DATING AND IT TOTALLY ROCKS. I may or may not have punched him in the face BUT I STILL DO NOT ENDORSE IT CHUNKS YOU ARE NOT MAURY GET THE HELL OFF THE INTERNET WITH YOUR BULLSHIT.

SHUT UP B YOU KNOW MY LOGIC IS BUMPIN. I"MMA TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT THIS IS HOW I LIVE, YOU CAN DO WHATCHU WANNA DO. SHUT UP ANT EATCHA DAAAAAAMN HOT DOG.

HAHA omg i did that once. the email thing i mean. i felt like a retard but i had no other way to get him alone besides text messaging, which seemed way worse. "hay i wud liek 2 put my mouth on urs. lets do it. lemme no pls. k thx"

ahahahaha this is my favorite thing ever I AM TOTALLY GONNA TEXT MY NEXT CRUSH THAT.

ALREADY LOOKIN FOR YOUR NEXT CONQUEST? COOOOOOOOLD

I tell EVERYONE. I blurt out my opinion/point of view/secrets even when they are TOTALLY NOT NEEDED AND MOST LIKELY SLIGHTLY AWKWARD TO HEAR 8D

PS KingxCabbage will you marry me I like you

OMG okay I WiLL TOTES MARRY YOU CRAZY BUG LADY.

ALSO I hope it is all right but there may be many ladies in this marriage cause Chunks and KK and Basalt are also hot ladieeezzzzzzz who I may or may not be married to/ havin babbies wiht

sisterwives

Okay let's do this, super marriage go

WHAT I AM WAAAY COOLER.

OH UH SHIT-- UM-- I LIKE YOU TOO

THREE WAY MARRIAGE????? <8D

I typically don't act on crushes I may get in the once in a blue moon period. Mainly because I don't get along with women from my home state and I don't do long distance relationships. So until I get the hell out of NJ I'm pretty much remaining single.

Ahahaha Jersey? I don't blame you for not getting along with the women around you.

I know right? They're fucking crazy in Jersey. I get along with women outside of NJ all the time, I just can't deal with long distance relationships. Once I finally manage to move out of this state I'll start being more pro-active in my search for a mate.

I approve this message!!!!

At least, the face-punch part. Violence is the answer to world peace.


P.S.

I'd like to get to know you so that I can not have a crush on you. Or wait. . . Not get to know you so that I can crush you. . . . No. . .um. . .

One problem is people may think they have a crush on someone, when it's more a crush on there talents and skills.

I've almost given up personally on finding someone, just turned 28, everyone that I know locally is already either married or hooked up with someone else, and I've always had that horrible super shy personality and constant backward 'food in mouth' complex. Also swore something really silly back in middle school that I'm still focusing on upholding.

I'll openly admit, when I got to meet you in person at AC this past year, you are a cute one.

YEAAAAHHHHH GO ANDROO YOU"RE THE MAN

The man with the plan! Not always the best plan, not always the right plan, Hell sometimes it's not even a plan...

I totally just lost track of my thinking process on where I was going to take this. Haha.