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15 years ago
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No I'm not. I think that is an incredible overreaction to the whole leaked notes drama going on. You don't like how the admins are running the site? Don't donate. Suggest better ways to run things. Concerned about note security? Well you always should have been. I happen to have a forum and apparently all notes by every user ever are one click away. Not to mention that you're entrusting your data to a site controversial enough to be a prime hack target, while not large enough to sue properly for mishandling your data. Use proper email, if Microsoft or Google gets hacked it will be a global scale drama.
If you read the notes, fine, whatever. If you do, the only way I feel it can be morally justified is if you can handle it appropriately. I personally just noticed the most prolific ones on image boards around. If you want to totally want to ignore any information related to the leak, leave now. I'll give you a few dots so you have room to stop reading if you want to.
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Okay? Good. Now, I don't know everything about what is going on, and most people both here and elsewhere have even less of an idea. I am only interested in this kind of thing because it's a bit of excitement, and one of the few ways to work towards actually improving a community, is to enlighten people about what the heck is going on. There are a couple points that the prolific notes are about.
The highest point of drama going down is the leaked Zaush note. Mentioning his name is not free reign to attack him or whatever. Don't be stupid, and actually learn about what is going on. See, when no one knows what is going on people assume the worst. As far as I can tell, what happened is that Zaush and some lady had a thing going on. They knew each other for months, and Zaush kept trying to make things more serious. She apparently lives hours away, came over one day, and got a topless massage. The next day she came over, Zaush was wanting sex. She was a little creeped out but didn't say no or make any move to go away. Was it because Zaush was intimidating her into doing it? Was she making it up to get back at a relationship gone bad? Was it even worse than the note implies? Was the simple html opened up in notepad and edited? We don't know. The whole thing is concerning, but it's no reason to start flaming him or calling any user wants to discuss what is going on as pro-rape. The whole thing about whether we should even read leaked information is questionable.
Next up is that a mod-who-will-not-be-named has a long list of notes recording abuses of power, including banning/suspending/whatever users based on borderline harrassment/free speech, banning users on AUP violations skirting the border without discussing it with other mods, and banning users based on angering the mod alone. It is disturbing but again remember that the notes are html.
Then there's the whole thing about Dragoneer not reporting people who had questionable evidence gathered on them performing illegal activites, and telling them to lie low in some cases. The only way he would be legally bound to report these things is if he knew for a fact said user was performing illegal activities. As it is, he seems to be using the sort of judgement you would use as a friend and independent person who disagrees with a law. Civil disobedience and all that. But again, there is only a small part of the picture shown by the notes.
And finally, the method of entry of the hacker. As far as I can tell, what happened is that some site totally unrelated to FA got passwords leaked. An admin happened to have an account there, and like most people, uses the same password on many different sites. FA happened to be one, and FA is a prime target because of how notoriously bad furries react and how notoriously lax security measures here. So the hacker gets admin access, grabs notes, and deletes the galleries of a few popular furs. Pretty much promptly leaves. Said hacker figures lulz.net is as good of a place as any to dump the goods. Lulz being a sort of furry 4chan. Which is to say, a place most people hate for no reason I can find, while they're generally nonserious people who love chaos, and will gladly take something like this an raise their own form of drama. Big inter-site war pretty much immediately that route. Anyway, he uploads the archives to a random host, posts links, then leaves forever.
The people there download notes, screenshot the most noteworthy stuff, post it back, and suddenly everyone here and there hears "OMG X IS A RAPIST AND Y IS CORRUPT". People make ill-informed decisions, leave FOREVAR, purge data, and generally only learn for the moment that you shouldn't trust your precious private data to a prime hack target with lax security and admins who can read every single note every user has ever written. So here we are with paladins of privacy on one side and raving conspiracy lunatics on the other, instead of people discussing this rationally and figuring out what Notegate really means for the state of the community.
If you read the notes, fine, whatever. If you do, the only way I feel it can be morally justified is if you can handle it appropriately. I personally just noticed the most prolific ones on image boards around. If you want to totally want to ignore any information related to the leak, leave now. I'll give you a few dots so you have room to stop reading if you want to.
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.
.
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Okay? Good. Now, I don't know everything about what is going on, and most people both here and elsewhere have even less of an idea. I am only interested in this kind of thing because it's a bit of excitement, and one of the few ways to work towards actually improving a community, is to enlighten people about what the heck is going on. There are a couple points that the prolific notes are about.
The highest point of drama going down is the leaked Zaush note. Mentioning his name is not free reign to attack him or whatever. Don't be stupid, and actually learn about what is going on. See, when no one knows what is going on people assume the worst. As far as I can tell, what happened is that Zaush and some lady had a thing going on. They knew each other for months, and Zaush kept trying to make things more serious. She apparently lives hours away, came over one day, and got a topless massage. The next day she came over, Zaush was wanting sex. She was a little creeped out but didn't say no or make any move to go away. Was it because Zaush was intimidating her into doing it? Was she making it up to get back at a relationship gone bad? Was it even worse than the note implies? Was the simple html opened up in notepad and edited? We don't know. The whole thing is concerning, but it's no reason to start flaming him or calling any user wants to discuss what is going on as pro-rape. The whole thing about whether we should even read leaked information is questionable.
Next up is that a mod-who-will-not-be-named has a long list of notes recording abuses of power, including banning/suspending/whatever users based on borderline harrassment/free speech, banning users on AUP violations skirting the border without discussing it with other mods, and banning users based on angering the mod alone. It is disturbing but again remember that the notes are html.
Then there's the whole thing about Dragoneer not reporting people who had questionable evidence gathered on them performing illegal activites, and telling them to lie low in some cases. The only way he would be legally bound to report these things is if he knew for a fact said user was performing illegal activities. As it is, he seems to be using the sort of judgement you would use as a friend and independent person who disagrees with a law. Civil disobedience and all that. But again, there is only a small part of the picture shown by the notes.
And finally, the method of entry of the hacker. As far as I can tell, what happened is that some site totally unrelated to FA got passwords leaked. An admin happened to have an account there, and like most people, uses the same password on many different sites. FA happened to be one, and FA is a prime target because of how notoriously bad furries react and how notoriously lax security measures here. So the hacker gets admin access, grabs notes, and deletes the galleries of a few popular furs. Pretty much promptly leaves. Said hacker figures lulz.net is as good of a place as any to dump the goods. Lulz being a sort of furry 4chan. Which is to say, a place most people hate for no reason I can find, while they're generally nonserious people who love chaos, and will gladly take something like this an raise their own form of drama. Big inter-site war pretty much immediately that route. Anyway, he uploads the archives to a random host, posts links, then leaves forever.
The people there download notes, screenshot the most noteworthy stuff, post it back, and suddenly everyone here and there hears "OMG X IS A RAPIST AND Y IS CORRUPT". People make ill-informed decisions, leave FOREVAR, purge data, and generally only learn for the moment that you shouldn't trust your precious private data to a prime hack target with lax security and admins who can read every single note every user has ever written. So here we are with paladins of privacy on one side and raving conspiracy lunatics on the other, instead of people discussing this rationally and figuring out what Notegate really means for the state of the community.
